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Lasik Surgery: Anyone Had It, Opinions?  
User currently offlineConcordeBoy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (9 years 1 month 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 1751 times:

Seriously considering it...

...last year on my parental units' insurance, and it has a pretty generous provision for Lasik operations.





I'm just antsy about this because the truly longterm consequences thereof are still not known, y'know?

Whom here has had it done?
  • Happy with the results?
  • Would you still have done it, retrospectively?
  • What complications (no matter how minor) did you experience?



    Also, any of you types here happen to have performed the surgery? If so, what say you?

    ...any info would be truly appreciated. Thanks in advance.

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    User currently offlineAsstChiefMark From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
    Reply 1, posted (9 years 1 month 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 1743 times:

    Best thing I ever did. I had it done four years ago. No problems.

    Mark


    User currently offlineWukka From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 1017 posts, RR: 16
    Reply 2, posted (9 years 1 month 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 1724 times:

    Also had it done 4 years ago... I went from roughly 20/280 with astigmatism in one eye and 20/300 in the other to 20/15 in both.

    Cost me $3000 out of pocket, and was still the best thing that I've ever spent my money on.

    The only downside is that aparently I'm in some 2% of the population that has "highly vascularized corneas", so after the surgery, what was supposed to feel like a "mild discomfort, like dry, sandy eyes" (whatever that means), I felt the pain of hot battery acid continuously applied to my eyeballs for about 36 hours.

    The opthomologist said that the incredible increase in vision from the surgery was quite possibly due to faster and more thorough healing, though, so I guess the pain may have been worth it. I really could have used a couple Vicodin or something, though, which I didn't get.

    All told, no regrets at all.

    Or, in eBay terms:

    A++++++++++++++++++!!! HIGHLY RECOMMEND!!11 WOULD DO AGAIN!!!!



    We can agree to disagree.
    User currently offlineTedTAce From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
    Reply 3, posted (9 years 1 month 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 1721 times:

    I talked to my eye Dr. about it about two months ago.. he said things there have gotten better with practice.. he garanteed that my distance vision would be 20/20 or better until they planted/cremated me. Only problem.. with a few years to 40, I'll need reading glasses for short distance vision no matter what. I'm interested, but the place I'd have to go to (because of personal issues(fear of eye surgery)) will cost $2K/eye WITH insurance!!! So until I hit the lottery, Bifocals for me it will be.

    User currently offlineCaptOveur From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
    Reply 4, posted (9 years 1 month 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 1720 times:

    Doesn't the FAA have their head up their butt with regards to Lasik still?

    That is why I haven't scraped together the cash to do it yet.


    User currently offlineFriendlySkies From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 4105 posts, RR: 5
    Reply 5, posted (9 years 1 month 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 1715 times:

    I just wear contacts...something about a guy sticking a knife in my eye doesn't appeal to me. Then again I'm only 18, in a few years that part may not be necessary.

    User currently offlineAsstChiefMark From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
    Reply 6, posted (9 years 1 month 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 1711 times:

    The procedure took about 10 seconds per eye. The time-consuming part was the pre-op stuff and getting positioned in the laser.

    Friendly Skies: What knife?

    Mark


    User currently offlineConcordeBoy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
    Reply 7, posted (9 years 1 month 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 1682 times:

    Quoting FriendlySkies (Reply 5):
    .something about a guy sticking a knife in my eye doesn't appeal to me

    ...since that however, has nothing to do with this particular form of surgery-- what then is your objection?


    User currently offlineAir2gxs From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
    Reply 8, posted (9 years 1 month 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 1676 times:

    Got mine 5 years ago, no real issues. A little discomfort on day one, but after that, no problem. Just keep up with the drops the first couple of weeks.

    The only side effect I've noticed is sensitivity to light. Especially flat light. That's the light I call that occurs in the early morning, early evening and sometimes through the clouds. Hard to explain but good sunglasses deal with that and I never go anywhere without my sunglasses, even in the rain.

    Now a buddy of mine that got it done around the same time stupidly went out and mowed his lawn the next day. After dealing with the bilateral eye infections, he is quite happy with the results.


    User currently offlineSidewinder From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
    Reply 9, posted (9 years 1 month 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 1671 times:

    I had it done a couple of years ago. A few minor side affects that disappeared in a couple of months. Went from 20/400 to 20/15 and stabilized at about 20/25. Some people have to get tweaked after about a year.

    User currently offlineDL021 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 11447 posts, RR: 75
    Reply 10, posted (9 years 1 month 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 1653 times:
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    I have always been hesitant to monkey with the limited vision I have now, correctable to 20/20 from legal blindness, but my uncle and several other family and friends have done it and see perfectly now.

    I'm thinking seriously of doing it myself now.



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    User currently offlineCanuckpaxguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
    Reply 11, posted (9 years 1 month 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 1653 times:

    I've had lots of friends get it done. Only heard one complaint from someone who had it done in the USA, but the minor error was soon repaired.

    For me --- I'm too much of a chicken to get it done at this point, and my eyes aren't bad enough to require it yet, so I'm going to wait it out.

    G


    User currently offlineRedngold From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 6907 posts, RR: 44
    Reply 12, posted (9 years 1 month 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 1644 times:

    Remember that any surgery has potential complications (LASIK sometimes leaves a person with foggy vision) and limitations (astigmatisms can't always be corrected.) Also LASIK does not help with the loss of flexibility that occurs with age (presbyopia) so you'll probably still need "reading glasses" at one time or another.

    That said, if I had the money to do it, I would have LASIK done because I am getting sick and tired of my glasses sliding down my nose, getting dirty, and having to buy new ones every year!


    redngold



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    User currently offlineBSBIsland From Brazil, joined Jul 2005, 377 posts, RR: 1
    Reply 13, posted (9 years 1 month 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 1635 times:

    What a coincidence, I´m doing this Wednesday next week. For a long time I hesitated, but now I´m anxious to be free of contact lenses  Wink... I refuse to use glasses.

    Rgs


    User currently offlineUSAFHummer From United States of America, joined May 2000, 10685 posts, RR: 53
    Reply 14, posted (9 years 1 month 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 1625 times:

    Im not too sure what the FAA thinks of it (mostly negative vibes, from what I gather), but if its ok with them and won't impact my flying career, then I am prepared to have it done after I graduate college...my optometrist won't let me do it any earlier as he fears all the reading that is done in college will alter my vision and thus negate the effects of it...

    Greg



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    User currently offlineGOCAPS16 From Japan, joined Jan 2000, 4339 posts, RR: 21
    Reply 15, posted (9 years 1 month 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 1620 times:

    I'll be getting PRK, a form of laser eye surgery with the military free of cost. The downsize is being on the waiting list for over a year since I do not have priority but I can deal waiting 1-2 years wearing my contacts. As for glasses, never will be sticking with them anymore. I'm done.

    Kevin


    User currently offlineKmh1956 From Bermuda, joined Jun 2005, 3324 posts, RR: 7
    Reply 16, posted (9 years 1 month 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 1615 times:

    I had it done last August....my vision is now 20/20, but as I'm over 40 I need reading glasses (minor inconvenience!).16 seconds for the left eye, 18 for the right...NO KNIVES...just a laser beam. I was in the surgery for about 15 minutes total, then spent about an hour afterwards drinking coffee in a massaging recliner with a blanket over me.
    I had no problems whatsoever, would do it again in a nanosecond!!!
    My daughter watched the whole thing from an overhead screen in the waiitng area, and now she wants to have it done for her 21st birthday.
    Because the cornea is still changing shape until about the age of 21, responsible practitioners will not perform the surgery until then. If they say they'll do it any younger, think twice!!!
    Highly recommend Bochner Eye Institute in Toronto.



    'Somebody tell me why I'm on my own if there's a soulmate for everyone' :Natasha Bedingfield
    User currently offlineCarmenlu15 From Guatemala, joined Dec 2004, 4757 posts, RR: 30
    Reply 17, posted (9 years 1 month 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 1600 times:

    I'm also thinking about the surgery... I got eye infections twice this year due to contacts. And according to the doc, if I chose to wear eyeglasses they would have to be made of very thick glass (nooo thanks). But I recall minimum age being 23... can someone confirm?


    What do I know, I'm just an 'immature troublemaker with only a passing interest in aviation' (or so they say)
    User currently offlineTACAA320 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
    Reply 18, posted (9 years 1 month 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 1589 times:

    Quoting Carmenlu15 (Reply 17):
    But I recall minimum age being 23... can someone confirm?

    http://www.allaboutvision.com/lasik-surgeons/bascom-miami.htm
    Carmen.

    I hope that link can help you in some way.

    Good luck.


    User currently offlineKmh1956 From Bermuda, joined Jun 2005, 3324 posts, RR: 7
    Reply 19, posted (9 years 1 month 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 1575 times:

    I do stand corrected on one fact..they do make a flap in the eye to get to the cornea, but with local anesthetic youu don't feel a thing.Your vision goes fuzzy and then black, but it's very brief.


    'Somebody tell me why I'm on my own if there's a soulmate for everyone' :Natasha Bedingfield
    User currently offlineShyFlyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
    Reply 20, posted (9 years 1 month 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 1570 times:

    Quoting FriendlySkies (Reply 5):
    something about a guy sticking a knife in my eye doesn't appeal to me

    They don't use knives...


    Quoting CaptOveur (Reply 4):
    Doesn't the FAA have their head up their butt with regards to Lasik still?

    From AOPA (emphasis mine):
    The FAA allows all FDA-approved refractive procedures. The most commonly performed procedure is LASIK. The recovery time after having LASIK can be anywhere from a few weeks to several months, but most patients report improvement in visual acuity and stabilization of side effects within about a week. You shouldn't fly after the procedure until your vision has stabilized and acuity meets the standards for the class of medical you hold.

    A status report or eye evaluation (FAA Form 8500-7) should be completed by your eye care specialist and presented to the aviation medical examiner at the time of your next scheduled FAA medical examination. This report must verify complete healing, stabilization of visual acuity, and lack of significant residual effects that often accompany these types of surgical procedures, including night glare, vision haziness, or eye discomfort. Complete healing is usually accomplished in four to six weeks, but up to twelve months may be necessary in some cases. At the time of your next scheduled medical application, your aviation medical examiner may issue the certificate if you are found to be otherwise qualified.


    User currently offlineTACAA320 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
    Reply 21, posted (9 years 1 month 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 1548 times:

    Some quite interesting facts about LASIK>>>>>>> http://www.ftc.gov/bcp/conline/pubs/health/lasik.htm

    User currently offlineCarmenlu15 From Guatemala, joined Dec 2004, 4757 posts, RR: 30
    Reply 22, posted (9 years 1 month 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 1526 times:

    Thanks for the links, I'll check them out  Smile


    What do I know, I'm just an 'immature troublemaker with only a passing interest in aviation' (or so they say)
    User currently offlineLY4XELD From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 857 posts, RR: 15
    Reply 23, posted (9 years 1 month 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 1511 times:

    Quoting ShyFlyer (Reply 20):
    They don't use knives...

    "The Surgical Procedure: A special device cuts a hinged flap of thin corneal tissue off the outer layer of the eyeball (cornea) and the flap is lifted out of the way. The laser reshapes the underlying corneal tissue, and the surgeon replaces the flap, which..."

    from http://www.ftc.gov/bcp/conline/pubs/health/lasik.htm

    What do you think the "special device" is? I went to a university hospital seminar on this as I was considering getting it done. It is an extremely sharp blade that cuts the cornea so the laser can work on the surface under the flap. If they're really good, they'll use a new blade for each eye in case the first one causes an infection later, the other eye may not get the same infection. Cheaper procedures use a laser instead of a blade to cut the flap for the cornea.



    That's why we're here.
    User currently offlineShyFlyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
    Reply 24, posted (9 years 1 month 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 1495 times:

    Quoting LY4XELD (Reply 23):
    Cheaper procedures use a laser instead of a blade to cut the flap for the cornea.

    Thanks! I was under the impression that the procedure was all LASER nowadays.

    [Edited 2005-07-23 01:51:42]

    25 SA7700 : I had LASIK this past March and have never looked back since then. I would do it again if I had to. Other than having to wear sunglasses, whenever I d
    26 Post contains images DeltaFFinDFW : I had it done a year and half ago - and love it. Plus, here in Dallas, we have many LASIK surgeons. The top three doctors "process" about 250 patients
    27 ConcordeBoy : ...see, that's another thing I'm concerned with: I don't want a Dr.-XX#-per-Hour. If I get it done, gonna have to do some major research (and perhaps
    28 SA7700 : That is actually frightening! No decent surgeon, even between 3 of them, should be performing this type of procedure on that many patients' in a day.
    29 AC_A340 : If the thought of a laser permanently changing your eye scares you, consider getting contact lenses implanted. It's a relatively new surgery, and fair
    30 TLG : I had it done 4 1/2 years ago, and I have never regretted it. It was $3,300 out of my own pocket because at the time I didn't have health insurance, b
    31 AM744 : You could have your glasses made of polycarbonate, fairly thin even for -5 diopters. Does anyone have health insurance that covers mild myopia correc
    32 Post contains images Pers : I also had the Lasik surgery done in Cape Town, South Africa by a German female Ophtamologist. This woman is really good. Had it done beginning 1998.
    33 AC320 : I'm very interested in the procedure as well. I have about 20/400 vision when uncorrected, so I can feel very helpless without my contacts in. With wh
    34 Post contains images Mirrodie : -Kevin said, "I'll be getting PRK, a form of laser eye surgery with the military free of cost. " Out of curiousity, what military branch? I currently
    35 Mirrodie : Oh, one last thing, as an aside, one thing I try to do is keep my patients informed. Since my first patient encounter in 1998, my observation is that
    36 CaptOveur : I know personally of people in the Air Force getting this done. They do it because the ugly-ass glasses don't fit well under chem-warfare gear.. This
    37 Mirrodie : This may or may not be correct but the understanding of the whole PRK thing is it is tried and true technology where lasik is new. IMHO, untrue. PRK,
    38 Paul777 : Had it done a couple of years ago, and went from 20/couple of hundred in each eye to 20/15. I too am over 40 so I am sure I will need reading glasses
    39 Slider : I had it done 2.5 years ago and other than the decision to marry my wife, it is quite literally the best decision I've ever made. Period. I was extrem
    40 AM744 : I'm interested in having the procedure performed. Now, speaking generally, would you people recommend a large clinic or an individual surgeon? And in
    41 Mirrodie : would you people recommend a large clinic or an individual surgeon? And in the latter case, a doctor who owns or rents the equipment? Pros and cons an
    42 Johnboy : A nurse I work with just had this procedure done a few weeks ago. Interestingly enough, the doctor persuaded her to just have one eye done otherwise s
    43 Kmh1956 : You're absolutely right...i was so excited about the incredibly shorttime it took for the actual laser portion of the surgery (and the incredible res
    44 Post contains images Carmenlu15 : Happens to me all the time... And Mirrodie, thanks for the info! After having read all these positive experiences, I'm doing further research about t
    45 Post contains images Mirrodie : kmh, no worries, I saw your correction ,... ma'am... saludos Carmenlu. When the time and eyes are right, its wonderful Incidentally, the woman who gav
    46 Barcode : Too scared. I'm minus 2.75 in my left eye, and minus 2.25 in the right. It's been (slowly) increasing since I'm 18, brought on my computer use and yea
    47 AM744 : Anyone has had the new wavefront guided Lasik procedure? The one that maps your cornea and only takes the tissue that is strictly needed. I think a la
    48 Stall : Can astigmatism be corrected with this kind of surgery ?
    49 AM744 : Yes. I have an astigmatic friend that had the operation. In her particular case she experimented slightly dry eyes, don't know if the problem persist
    50 Mirrodie : Wavefront technology was FDA approved for use last year. Its the same LASIK procedure but with different algorithms and nomograms for the ablation tre
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