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I'm A Seattle Slut..what Are You?  
User currently offlineCharlib52 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 164 posts, RR: 18
Posted (8 years 11 months 3 weeks 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 1661 times:

OK, so people who know me, know me as a "Seattle slut". I'm always trying to put my city on top of others and in the best light, because it's the best. I've lived in The Bay Area for a year and it was...nice. I've travelled well. But Seattle is fanatically my home. I will defend it to my death. Mountains. Water. 75 degrees in summer. Barely 32 degrees in Winter. Airplanes. High tech. Military. Urbanity. bunny-hugging, tree squeezers. Closeted republicans. A completely looking-glass-self native polpulace. Weak politicians. Hydroplanes. The "save the turkeys!" brigade during the holidays. Yadda, yadda...

Seattle is a part of who I am. It is why I am, who I am and it is part of my core being. I would be a completely different human without it.

Anyone else feel the same way about their hometown? Does anyone feel so attached to where they call home? Do you feel that you could not exist in some other locality?

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User currently offlineSeb146 From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 11533 posts, RR: 15
Reply 1, posted (8 years 11 months 3 weeks 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 1636 times:

Excuse me, but I lived in Seattle for two years. Oh, yeah. it's just so great: overprices slums, people not even looking at you unless you are a tourist. Even then, you are spoken to in a cold way. No one lives in the right neighborhood and traffic 24/7. Weak politicians? Try politicians that "find" votes until their candidate is elected. Not to mention a light rail system that is behind schedule and over budget that is draining transportation funds from the rest of Washington state.

Bah.

Give me Portland, Denver, or San Francisco. Out of those three, I have actually only lived in Portland, but Denver seems like Portland with an alcohol problem and San Francisco is the attitude of Portland with the volume of people in Seattle. Portland has everything in a big city, but the populace thinks we are a cow town. Our worst traffic lasts only from 4PM to 6PM Monday thru Friday, and even if you live in the heart of Southeast (drug central) you still live in Portland and we are all in this together. Our public transportation network, until the spike in fuel prices, could have been self-sustaining, even with the building of Yellow Line and the Street Car exention.

Call me a Portland whore

GO CANUCKS!!



Life in the wall is a drag.
User currently offlineLOT767-300ER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (8 years 11 months 3 weeks 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 1631 times:

Quoting Charlib52 (Thread starter):
Anyone else feel the same way about their hometown? Does anyone feel so attached to where they call home? Do you feel that you could not exist in some other locality?

I feel this way about Warsaw and Chicago (Warsaw #2 I guess  Silly ) Im scared of Daytona Beach for 4 years, 90 degrees, no winter, no snow, no Polaks seems a bid dodgy to me, Im not a fan of really big heat.

San Fran is nice, but christ its too expensive.


User currently offlineCharlib52 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 164 posts, RR: 18
Reply 3, posted (8 years 11 months 3 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 1623 times:

Quoting Seb146 (Reply 1):
Even then, you are spoken to in a cold way

I know, I love it.

Quoting Seb146 (Reply 1):
No one lives in the right neighborhood

I like mine -- 7 miles from downtown and housing is still 250k-300k Great transpo on the Bus (yes, the bus...I know...but stil...)

Quoting Seb146 (Reply 1):
Weak politicians? Try politicians that "find" votes until their candidate is elected.

Agreed! I guess I look on the brighter side of things.

Quoting Seb146 (Reply 1):
Not to mention a light rail system that is behind schedule and over budget that is draining transportation funds from the rest of Washington state.

And the Boston "Big Dig" was under budget? LA subway on budget? All I'm saying is that we lack the effort to do stuff. Inevitably a good majority of public works things are over budget. At least Sound Transit is actually doing *something*


User currently offlineSeb146 From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 11533 posts, RR: 15
Reply 4, posted (8 years 11 months 3 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 1608 times:

Quoting Charlib52 (Reply 3):
At least Sound Transit is actually doing *something*

And, believe me, I am grateful they are doing something. But, it is also taking money away for transportation improvements in Yakima, Olympia, Tri-Cities, and Vancouver. Even here in Portland, it irritates me when politicians use the "it's good for the whole state" argument when doing enhancements in one city. Burns is not seeing a spike in tourists since MAX started in Portland and I can guarantee Connell will not see a spike in tourism when/if Seattle gets their light rail.

If I live in a city, I want to feel I belong. I never felt that way in Seattle, but I feel that way in Portland and I know I would feel that way in San Francisco or Denver. I did an experiment when I still lived in Seattle. I told different people I lived in different neighborhoods. No matter what neighborhood I said, the response I would get is "Why would you live there? You need to move."

GO CANUCKS!!



Life in the wall is a drag.
User currently offlineCharlib52 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 164 posts, RR: 18
Reply 5, posted (8 years 11 months 3 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 1595 times:

Quoting Seb146 (Reply 4):
Even here in Portland, it irritates me when politicians use the "it's good for the whole state" argument when doing enhancements in one city

I love this argument. Take the Puget Sound Area out of the equasion entirely -- all economic factors. All the Washington apples that ship through the port. All the cherries that are flown through SEA. All the Copper River Salmon that is flown in. All the OIL that comes through Anacortes. All banking negotiations that happen (OK, I guess Spokane has a few banks, but c'mon...). YES, everyone else is important. But Seattle is the economic center of the region and, although perhaps not the end-all economic driver, it is definitely the economic ENABLER of the region. Every region has one -- it's defintely not Seattle specific. But I've always thought that this basic argument is a self-fulfilling charade to protect those who don't understand where the money flows in any particular region.

Quoting Seb146 (Reply 4):
No matter what neighborhood I said, the response I would get is "Why would you live there? You need to move."

I love this. It's so Seattle. And it says "Stay away!" Which is one of our personal native tenants, but I have to admit one that should probably fall by the wayside soon.

Thanks for the interesting points...


User currently offlineStevenUhl777 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (8 years 11 months 3 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 1586 times:

I loved this area in Feb. 1980, when I first came here and knew I wanted to live here at some point in my life. My Dad almost transferred to SEA from SFO for UA then, but it failed at the last minute. I was almost 7 at the time.

Well, I turned 32 about a month ago, and have lived in the following areas in that time:

San Mateo/Belmont (south of SF) - 11 years
Oregon City and Salem, OR (4 years for college) - 12 years
Burien/Lynnwood/Mountlake Terrace/Everett - 9 years

I have to say that the time I spent in the Portland area has been the best for me, I still consider it home, above here and definitely SF, though some good personal things have happened to me up here also. I wouldn't mind living in Marin county, though trying to buy a home and living on a decent wage is damn near impossible.

Still, for me, Seattle has lost of a lot of its original luster for me, for the following reasons:

* It's a "closed" society...unless you went to UW or WSU, you're an outsider around here.
* It's difficult to meet people (read: single women who aren't divorced with three kids) here, and I agree that people are on the street are focused only on themselves and look away when you try to be friendly.
* It's a pain in the ass getting anywhere, even on the weekends. You would think people here would know how to drive in fog and rain, but holy shit...not a chance. Luckily, I can ride the bus anytime I want. I go down to the Portland area every other month or so, and plan my departure times as to avoid the worst part of WEEKEND traffic around here.
* I'd love to live closer in, but why would I want to buy a 1,200 square foot house built in 1920 for $400,000 near Green Lake, or some overpriced place on the east side. I'm not that stupid.
* Don't get me started on the election system and the politics in this state
right now. Nothing has been solved since last November, and until it does, be surprised if there is NOT a replay of 2004.
* Cost: we pay some of the highest gas in the country right now. $2.57 for regular...in EVERETT!!!! Give me a break! Property taxes are going up, sales tax, it's out of control. Luckily, I don't have to pay that stupid monorail tax.
* Traffic: where do I start? And we still have to pay for the Viaduct replacement (that has Boston Big Dig written all over it) that will go to the lowest cost bidder, and of course the 520 bridge.

I could go on and on. But, rather than doing that, I will just say that I'm going to stay here 3 years more so I can earn my MBA from Seattle U., and then sell my place and move back to the Portland area. Not that Portland isn't perfect by any means, but it took 9 years of being to here to realize that they actually have a few priorities straight. Hell, give me central Oregon..even better yet... Wink

I didn't even watch the stupid Seafair boats drive around in circles today, either. Just couldn't bring myself to spending hours doing that....and I've already stopped contributing to the Sonics and Mariners several years ago.


User currently offlineStevenUhl777 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (8 years 11 months 3 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 1574 times:

Quoting Seb146 (Reply 4):
I did an experiment when I still lived in Seattle. I told different people I lived in different neighborhoods. No matter what neighborhood I said, the response I would get is "Why would you live there? You need to move."

Classic...LMAO!!!!!  rotfl  silly 

Quoting Seb146 (Reply 4):
I can guarantee Connell will not see a spike in tourism when/if Seattle gets their light rail

Huh? Where's "Connell"? Never heard of it. Eastern WA someplace?


User currently offlineCharlib52 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 164 posts, RR: 18
Reply 8, posted (8 years 11 months 3 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 1570 times:

Quoting StevenUhl777 (Reply 6):
Still, for me, Seattle has lost of a lot of its original luster for me, for the following reasons:

So would you say that Portland is about what you'd expect Seattle to be like 10 years ago? I agree on most of your points.

Personally I think that this is the "identity crisis" that we are going through right now. Who the hell are we? It's like being 18 all over again...

Give Portland 5 more years...I bet you may be saying the same things about it.

And when taxes come to mind, remember, Washington has no state income tax. One of few states in the nation -- so some some other tax has to be higher to cope. Personally I think "user" taxes are more fair than a broad-based tax on income.

Seattle is still better.  Smile


User currently offlineCharlib52 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 164 posts, RR: 18
Reply 9, posted (8 years 11 months 3 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 1568 times:

Quoting StevenUhl777 (Reply 7):
Quoting Seb146 (Reply 4):
I can guarantee Connell will not see a spike in tourism when/if Seattle gets their light rail

Huh? Where's "Connell"? Never heard of it. Eastern WA someplace?

EASTERN Washington??!! Well clearly that's out of the picture...that's another state.


User currently offlineTedTAce From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (8 years 11 months 3 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 1553 times:

Quoting Charlib52 (Thread starter):
Hydroplanes.

The only reason I'd consider leaving Central Florida for more then a week.. Go up there on a Friday night, spend Sat- Tue seeng the air museums, BFI, Microsoft, what not. Then spend Wed-Sun watching the Hydroplanes,then head back home on Monday...like a rat off a sinking ship!!


User currently offlineOhTheDrama747 From UK - Scotland, joined Jan 2005, 291 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (8 years 11 months 3 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 1543 times:

Hmm, i'm not American but hell i'll post here anyways.

I have to say i'm an Orlando slut, amazing heat (i'm Scottish, heat is good), nice people, things are pretty cheap in places i.e fuel, so much stuff to do.

I really wanna move there but from what my friend tells me it's now impossible to move there from the UK. Is this true?

Anyways, greetings from the other side of the Atlantic.

G


User currently offlineStevenUhl777 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (8 years 11 months 3 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 1525 times:

Quoting Charlib52 (Reply 8):
And when taxes come to mind, remember, Washington has no state income tax. One of few states in the nation -- so some some other tax has to be higher to cope. Personally I think "user" taxes are more fair than a broad-based tax on income.

I'm well aware of the fact Washington doesn't have an income tax...I've been here 9 years. I also like user-based taxes, but it seems like Washington more than makes up for a lack of income tax. They do have the B&O tax, which is a sore subject, and for a business, it doesn't matter if you make or lose money...you pay. With a state income tax, and in Oregon they have a graduated %-income tax based on the income level (5%, 7%, 9%) and there are deductions you can take.

Quoting Charlib52 (Reply 9):
EASTERN Washington??!! Well clearly that's out of the picture...that's another state.

I'm beginning to think those folks are smarter than I thought...form their own state so they don't have to deal with the politics of Western Washington. I'm sure the folks east of the Cascades in Oregon feel the exact same way. Hell, I wouldn't mind living over there if there were some decent job opportunties.

Quoting Charlib52 (Reply 8):
So would you say that Portland is about what you'd expect Seattle to be like 10 years ago?

I think I understand what you're asking...I go down there pretty frequently, so I can see the difference, and can compare the two areas and how they've grown in the past 9 years. While the Portland area has it's own problems (Terwilliger curves, another bridge over the Columbia, US 26, I84 in Portland, etc.) it seems like they have worked harder to avoid the mistakes and problems they seen in Seattle. They've been much tougher and smarter about controlling sprawl, and have resisted extending the urban growth boundary whenever possible. Max works beautifully there...very well done, and started in 1986. Seattle will be LUCKY to see anything remotely similar to Max by 2016. Being smaller and close to Seattle, they have that benefit I guess.


User currently offlineTexdravid From United States of America, joined May 2004, 1345 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (8 years 11 months 3 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 1511 times:

Quoting StevenUhl777 (Reply 12):
I'm beginning to think those folks are smarter than I thought...form their own state so they don't have to deal with the politics of Western Washington. I'm sure the folks east of the Cascades in Oregon feel the exact same way. Hell, I wouldn't mind living over there if there were some decent job opportunties.

Think twice before moving to Eastern Washington on the other side of the Cascades.
I lived in Yakima, WA for 4 months and it is a depressing, small, and dying city with no tax base and no young people. It is far(140+miles) from Seattle, and in the wintertime, Snoqualmie pass is frequently closed and then you are stuck in a time warp until spring.



Tort reform now. Throw lawyers in jail later.
User currently offlineWindowSeat From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 1311 posts, RR: 57
Reply 14, posted (8 years 11 months 3 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 1510 times:

Quoting OhTheDrama747 (Reply 11):
I really wanna move there but from what my friend tells me it's now impossible to move there from the UK. Is this true?

Not unless you either want to set sail in a canoe to cross the pond, or try and enter through the Mexican border and encounter some Minutemen.

Jokes apart, it is legally and legitimately possible to move to the United States. You just have to find which way works best for you.


As for the topic, I've moved several times in the past 8 years and across continents, but I must say the two places I would fancy are London and San Francisco. There's something in it for everyone. Very cosmopolitan, and very full of life.

cheers



I'm all in favour of keeping dangerous weapons out of the hands of fools. Let's start with keyboards.
User currently offlineSearpqx From Netherlands, joined Jun 2000, 4343 posts, RR: 10
Reply 15, posted (8 years 11 months 3 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 1503 times:

Funny, I've lived all over the country and the friendliest place I've ever lived is Seattle. No arguing the city has its drawbacks, traffic being the biggest, but even then it didn't bother me that much. And you can beat the proximity to just about every type of geography/climate you can think of.

I do think part of it has to do with where you live in the city. I lived in Federal Way for 2.5 years, and was miserable. The rest of the time I've lived either on the hill (Capitol) or near Admiral Junction (West Seattle), and loved it. For me it was a matter of being able to walk out my front door and walk, either to the store, or down to the waterfront, or just around neighborhoods.

I've been on Maui for two years now, and while I enjoy some aspects of it, I'm itching to get back to the Northwest. When I do I have every intention of buying in the Madrona/Leschi area as soon as I can.



"The two most common elements in the universe are Hydrogen and stupidity"
User currently offline102IAHexpress From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 1156 posts, RR: 3
Reply 16, posted (8 years 11 months 3 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 1487 times:

Quoting Charlib52 (Thread starter):
Anyone else feel the same way about their hometown?

Houston whore? Maybe



I’ve never been to Seattle, but I once had a part time call center job after school, where we made outbound calls all across the country. As the night got later, our calls would slowly shift to the west coast. Needless to say, no one liked making the Seattle calls because; the people on the other end were pretty much all rude. Not saying that everyone from Seattle is rude, just that it’s been my experience that calls to Seattle produced above average rudeness, as compared to the rest of the country. (Oh and we weren’t telemarketers, and we weren’t selling anything)

But, nevertheless I do want to visit Seattle one day. I’ve always wanted to watch the Rockets battle the Sonics up in Seattle. There’s a forward who plays for the Sonics; Rashard Lewis, who was drafted straight out of High School to the Sonics. I’ll always remember him being drafted because it was a big deal at my school that year, having one of our basketball players go straight to the NBA.


User currently offlineUSAFHummer From United States of America, joined May 2000, 10685 posts, RR: 53
Reply 17, posted (8 years 11 months 3 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 1458 times:

I visited Seattle last summer for a couple of days, absolutely loved it there...its definitely on my list of places that I'd like to live in at some point in the future...

Greg



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User currently offlineScarletHarlot From Canada, joined Jul 2003, 4673 posts, RR: 56
Reply 18, posted (8 years 11 months 3 weeks 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 1408 times:

I also live in Seattle, but wouldn't consider myself a "Seattle slut".  Smile I do love Seattle - there are few places as beautiful - but it's not Canada and I will always be Canadian. For me, there's just something right about being in Canada.

I do find the politics here to be very frustrating. Nothing ever gets done. We desperately need a non-bus public transit system that is more than twelve miles long, and it's been planned for years but it is not going to happen. We need a new 520 bridge but nobody has the balls to say "this is how it's going to be" and actually DO something.

I was going to say that I didn't agree about being accepted here, but come to think of it, most of my friends are either transplanted Canadians or curlers, who tend to be either Canadian or Canadian-friendly. So I guess I can't judge one way or another whether I feel accepted. I have only met a few born-and-bred Seattleites in any case. There don't seem to be that many.

I was in Toronto a week ago and in Vancouver yesterday and I ache to move back to Canada. As soon as I can drag Mr. Harlot away from his job, we'll head north.



But that was when I ruled the world
User currently offlineBo__einG From Canada, joined Apr 2000, 2770 posts, RR: 18
Reply 19, posted (8 years 11 months 3 weeks 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 1373 times:

I love Seattle! I was there for a few days last summer and it rocked.
I think traffic is a big problem because I guess Seattle doesn't have a mass transit LRT system like Skytrain in nearby Vancouver so routes to Downtown is always congested, especially on that I5.
Seattle also has a lot of freeways, I had some time finding my way around without having to go around circles.

However I do find some neighborhoods cozy and nice, West Seattle, that hill area between Elliott Bay and Lake Union. (Where that big old school like building is by the 3 antennas)
And that Mercer Island (?) In the middle of the big ass lake. I would love to live there surrounded by the waterfront.

I will return again someday.



Chance favors the prepared mind.
User currently offlineCfalk From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (8 years 11 months 3 weeks 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 1373 times:

Damn, I was planning a trip to Seattle, saw the thread title...

Should sue for false advertising.

 Wink

Charles


User currently offlineBill142 From Australia, joined Aug 2004, 8440 posts, RR: 8
Reply 21, posted (8 years 11 months 3 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 1325 times:

Quoting Cfalk (Reply 20):
Damn, I was planning a trip to Seattle, saw the thread title...

Should sue for false advertising.

Looks like you will be sleepless in Seattle after all.


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