DfwRevolution From United States of America, joined Jan 2010, 1061 posts, RR: 51
Reply 2, posted (9 years 10 months 3 weeks 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 4096 times:
>> And five weeks? That's absurd.
Seriously dude... virtually every President in history has taken working vacations of the exact same variety. Do you have a problem with this President or the precedent set by the other 43 behind him?
There is no occupation on Earth more stressful than POTUS, is a change of scenery that upsetting? He's doing virtually the same work, but he has a pasture out the window instead of the Rose Garden. Current policy aside, big frickin' deal !
>> Anyway, I may not agree with her that Bush killed her son, but I give her credit for wanting answers from the President. Hope she gets her wish.
No one has more of a right to protest than she does and the more people who voice their opinion, the better IMO...
AGM114L From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (9 years 10 months 3 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 4061 times:
The woman is just frustrated and looking for an outlet for her grief. No one made that young man sign up for the military. Its unfortunate that he was killed but he died doing what he wanted to do, serving his country.
So much for all that political capital he boasting about after the election. Looks like the American people are finnaly starting to realize where the buck stops.
The democrats are singing: "The polls are back and you're gunna be in trouble. hey la, hey la, the polls are back!
When you seem them coming you better cut out on the double. hey la, hey la, the polls are back!
You've been spreadin' lies that we were untrue. hey la, hey la, the polls are back!
"The polls are back they're gunna save our reputation, hey la, hey la, the polls are back.
If we were you, we'd take a permanent vacation..."
The August getaway is Bush's 49th trip to his cherished ranch since taking office and the 319th day that Bush has spent, entirely or partially, in Crawford -- nearly 20 percent of his presidency to date, according to Mark Knoller, a CBS Radio reporter known for keeping better records of the president's travel than the White House itself. Weekends and holidays at Camp David or at his parents' compound in Kennebunkport, Maine, bump up the proportion of Bush's time away from Washington even further.
Bush's long vacations are more than a curiosity: They play into diametrically opposite arguments about this leadership style. To critics and late-night comics, they symbolize a lackadaisical approach to the world's most important day job, an impression bolstered by Bush's two-hour midday exercise sessions and his disinclination to work nights or weekends. The more vociferous among Bush's foes have noted that he spent a month at the ranch shortly before the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks, when critics assert he should have been more attentive to warning signs.
To Bush and his advisers, that criticism fundamentally misunderstands his Texas sojourns. Those who think he does not remain in command, aides say, do not understand the modern presidency or Bush's own work habits. At the ranch, White House officials say, Bush continues to receive daily national security briefings, sign documents, hold teleconferences with aides and military commanders, and even meet with foreign leaders. And from the president's point of view, the long Texas stints are the best way to clear his mind and reconnect with everyday America.
"Spending time outside of Washington always gives the president a fresh perspective of what's on the minds of the American people," White House press secretary Scott McClellan told reporters Friday. "It's a time, really, for him to shed the coat and tie and meet with folks out in the heartland and hear what's on their minds."
Just as Bush has made these August trips a regular feature of his presidency, so, too, have Democrats made a tradition of needling him about them. This year, opposition politicians are tying his departure from Washington to the CIA leak case that has swept up his top adviser, Karl Rove.
Presidents have often sought refuge from the pressures of Washington and from life in the White House, which Harry S. Truman called the crown jewel of the American prison system. Richard M. Nixon favored Key Biscayne, Fla. Bush's father preferred Maine. Bill Clinton, lacking a home of his own, borrowed a house on Martha's Vineyard, except for two years when political adviser Dick Morris nudged him into going to Jackson, Wyo., before his reelection because it polled better.
Until now, probably no modern president was a more famous vacationer than Ronald Reagan, who loved spending time at his ranch in Santa Barbara, Calif. According to an Associated Press count, Reagan spent all or part of 335 days in Santa Barbara over his eight-year presidency -- a total that Bush will surpass this month in Crawford with 3 1/2 years left in his second term.
"The Oval Office is wherever the president of the United States is" [...]
Quoting JamesAg96 (Reply 14): I feel bad for her, I really do...but her son joined...and Bush didn't kill him.
Unless he's a sociopath -- not outside of the realm of possibility -- I'd imagine he feels some responsibility for all of the deaths in Iraq.
BoeingFever777 From United States of America, joined Jul 2009, 409 posts, RR: 53
Reply 16, posted (9 years 10 months 3 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 4000 times:
Who cares... She is an attention whore! No one told her son to join the goddamn military! Go cry somewhere else where no one cares and Bush didn't kill him or make him join.
And to you ppl that think he takes lots of holiday... You think what he does is what you and I would do on holiday? not only no but hell He has a 24hr day he does/attempts to do his job from out of the lime light of Washington!
Least he does not jet set to the Hamptons and Hollywood like Clinton did.
Soyuzavia From Australia, joined Jun 2005, 609 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (9 years 10 months 3 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 3975 times:
Quoting Aa777jr (Reply 17): I recall President Clinton needing a haircut so badly, while on Air Force 1, they halted all air traffic at LAX so a barber could cut his hair onboard before his flight out. Get real people...
You recall incorrectly. Didn't happen like that at all.
JCS17 From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 8065 posts, RR: 37
Reply 22, posted (9 years 10 months 3 weeks 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 3966 times:
Haha... That's great, Phil! I've already hit that stump with a couple of my friends in the Guard. The best comeback they've had is, "Well, I didn't expect that to happen!"
Quoting Dc10guy (Reply 20): Bush is always on vacation, Karl Rowe & Dick Cheney are the ones running things anyway... Hopefully this poor ladies protest will help keep more kids from signing up... And dying.
No. Me's already got my GED. I was alluding to DC10guy's constant grammatical and spelling (Karl Rowe?) errors. I don't think I've ever glanced at one post of his and not cringed. I'm not even an English major!
America's chickens are coming home to rooooost!
: I would flame you but I just don't have the energy.
: No, that hero is testing new dangerous pretzels, he drives new bikes for the army, and for the rest of the day he plays golf, to meditate about the c
: Who the hell are YOU-a mindless yes-man for Mr. Bush, to tell anyone how to channel their grief, L-188? What gives you the right to flame her for wan
: Actually, I do. We've got people in combat and regardless of whether or not he can "work from Crawford" the image sucks. Period. Vacation fine - take
: That isn't the issue. A President should think 1000 times before he sends men and women into a war. War is not a big joke or a big game like this Pre
: That's the classic excuse isn't it? They knew what they were getting into. I'm sure they did. What I don't think any of them expected is Bush sending
: And what's your comeback for why you've never served, but have no problem sending others to their deaths? The Nobel Prize winning research you're doi
: I have the matching set - there's a Left Wing pamphlet also . . . various chapters . . . "How to get a Knobber in the Oral Office" by Slick Willie; "
: Total number of fatalities: 1 Bushs' BS war....Exactly. I guess Laura read the chapter by T. Kennedy, huh? B
: Of course GWB didn’t personally kill her son, but his choices as Commander in Chief did. It is so tiresome to listen to conservatives try to deflec
: Let's see now. Put a cum stained blue dress and a drowned girl on one side of the scales. Put 1820 slaughtered American soldiers on the other side. B
: Do you think that is something new? In my 348 days in Vietnam I got four "campaign stars" on my Vietnam Service medal. Why? Because President Lyndon
: Being a librarian, she's likely read both pamphlets . . . I knew as soon as I made that post I'd get several replies like the ones posted above. My p
: "The message also urges Bush to send his twin daughters, Jenna and Barbara, to Iraq "if the cause is so noble."" Who on earth SENDS their OWN children
: Why, Maverick? If it's so noble, and if some things are more precious than life itself, why SHOULDN'T he send his daughters to fight for HIS IDEALS?
: Well, President Franklin D. Roosevelt for one. His son FDR Junior was a naval officer and saw combat in WWII.
: And Lyndon Johnson paid the price for that in the form of withdrawing his nomination in '68. At least the old codger hung his head in shame for the e
: His Nephew, Theodore Roosevelt, son of President Theodore Roosevelt, was a General that landed on Normandy. He died of a heart attack on D-Day after
: Amen. Well said. No matter the sacrifice, the shameless Bushies will shit on you if you dare challenge the Great Leader.[Edited 2005-08-08 18:34:35]
: Anyone who reads that should know to stay away from Mav for a while. His number is about to come up on the karma lottery. B
: He may have taken more vacations, but he's one of the few presidents that has flown directly into a warzone when he visited the troops for Thanksgivi
: JetJack . . . my only point is I think it's that PotUS is spending too much time in Crawford (regardless of his ability to run things from there) when
: I agree, He has taken to many holidays No, this wasn't directed at you, but to those who fail to understand that casualties are a part of going to wa
: I know you're convinced otherwise, but this is a free country, and if you want to fight in a war, you are more than welcome, and if you don't, you do
: Nice try, but no cigar. Although even as an opponent of this war, it would be awfully amusing to watch Rush Limbaugh, Ann Coulter and chicken hawks l
: Michael Moore would be even funnier if he could actually run.
: …, and I wasn’t insinuating that you were. It’s why I said “conservatives” and not “you”. As a matter of fact, you’re one of the very
: Well...isn't this an interesting tidbit on the young lady...remember everyone, she has already met him once. http://www.drudgereport.com/flash4.htm TH
: Agreed . . . once the Iraqi Constitution is completed** there will be much to do. Additionally, I think Private Opinion - currently at an all time lo
: Yes, cause we all know how reliable Drudge is. Hey! She's saying something that makes Bush look bad! Come up with something fast so we can Plame her!
55 Boeing Nut
: I'm adapting the signiture of another A.net member............. January 21, 2009 can't come soon enough
: So sad nrk...don't like what you hear so attack the source. How about this one, the original article that is just referenced on Drudge. http://www.th
: Crawford is about 10 minutes from me. Do y'all want me to go interview her? Seriously, BaylorAirBear
: Cindy Sheehan is a confused women who's grief was hijacked by the far-left kooks who are feeding on her loss. She has been given a platform and a posi
: Actually, you're wrong about that. As somebody above showed, Bush is set to break the record for most vacation days, so NO, not virtually every Presi
: YES, Go and get a picture with her. Post it here.
: Right after saying something that makes Bush look good....just ignore that part .
: That will never happen in our lifetimes. I agree. He can shit on us from anywhere. And now, here are the constructive conservatives coming out of the
: When this war first started, the support for it was greater than 50%. After a majority of Americans realized that a. the Prez had lied about the WMDs
: There still will be more to die, hope that nobody here will lost someone he knows. It could change some minds. Axel [Edited 2005-08-08 22:45:16]
: What if her son really believed in the cause?