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Mom Of Iraq KIA Stakes Out At Crawford  
User currently offlineFalcon84 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (10 years 9 months 4 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 4625 times:


Well, since he's on a FIVE WEEK "working" vacation in Texas, you think he could spare a few moments to talk to this woman.

And five weeks? That's absurd.

Anyway, I may not agree with her that Bush killed her son, but I give her credit for wanting answers from the President. Hope she gets her wish.

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User currently offlineBigPhilNYC From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 4077 posts, RR: 51
Reply 1, posted (10 years 9 months 4 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 4608 times:

It'll be funny when her "protest" gets her nothing but sunburn.

Phil Derner Jr.
User currently offlineDfwRevolution From United States of America, joined Jan 2010, 1229 posts, RR: 51
Reply 2, posted (10 years 9 months 4 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 4605 times:

>> And five weeks? That's absurd.

Seriously dude... virtually every President in history has taken working vacations of the exact same variety. Do you have a problem with this President or the precedent set by the other 43 behind him?

There is no occupation on Earth more stressful than POTUS, is a change of scenery that upsetting? He's doing virtually the same work, but he has a pasture out the window instead of the Rose Garden. Current policy aside, big frickin' deal !

>> Anyway, I may not agree with her that Bush killed her son, but I give her credit for wanting answers from the President. Hope she gets her wish.

No one has more of a right to protest than she does and the more people who voice their opinion, the better IMO...

User currently offlineFalcon84 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (10 years 9 months 4 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 4601 times:

Quoting DfwRevolution (Reply 2):
Do you have a problem with this President or the precedent set by the other 43 behind him?

He's taken more vacation time than any president in history. Five weeks is just stupid, imho.

User currently offlineBigPhilNYC From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 4077 posts, RR: 51
Reply 4, posted (10 years 9 months 4 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 4588 times:

Falcon, you'll have to back that up with data.

As though the President doesn't do work when he is on "vacation" anyway. You act like he's waking up at noon and masturbaitng to internet porn all day (like me).

Phil Derner Jr.
User currently offlineFalcon84 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (10 years 9 months 4 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 4586 times:

Quoting BigPhilNYC (Reply 4):
You act like he's waking up at noon and masturbaitng to internet porn all day (like me).

WAAAY too much info, dude! Keep it to yourself!  Silly

User currently offlineFlyingTexan From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (10 years 9 months 4 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 4574 times:

Is he going to meet with the mother of that solider? I think so. She was pleading of TV today for that.

At the end of this vacation, W will have spent 1 year total at the Crawford Ranch.

User currently offlineAGM114L From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (10 years 9 months 4 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 4570 times:

The woman is just frustrated and looking for an outlet for her grief. No one made that young man sign up for the military. Its unfortunate that he was killed but he died doing what he wanted to do, serving his country.

User currently offline11Bravo From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 1748 posts, RR: 9
Reply 8, posted (10 years 9 months 4 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 4569 times:

Quoting Falcon84 (Thread starter):
Well, since he's on a FIVE WEEK "working" vacation in Texas

I'd want to go hide on the ranch too once I had seen some of the latest poll numbers.


So much for all that political capital he boasting about after the election. Looks like the American people are finnaly starting to realize where the buck stops.

WhaleJets Rule!
User currently offlineArmitageShanks From Costa Rica, joined Dec 2003, 3930 posts, RR: 14
Reply 9, posted (10 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 4566 times:

What's wrong with 5 week vacations?

France, Italy, and Spain.

User currently offlineCaptOveur From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (10 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 4559 times:

I guess you meet with leaders from all over the world and work shit out when you go on vacation.. Doesn't sound like my idea of a good time.

If you worked half as much as Dubya probably is on his vacation CO would probably give you 5 weeks off as well.

He can run the country from anywhere in the world, just because he isn't in DC doesn't mean shit isn't getting done.

User currently offlineBigPhilNYC From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 4077 posts, RR: 51
Reply 11, posted (10 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 4554 times:

Phil Derner Jr.
User currently offlineCORULEZ05 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (10 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 4547 times:

Quoting BigPhilNYC (Reply 11):

 rotfl   rotfl   rotfl   rotfl   rotfl   rotfl   rotfl   rotfl 

Great one and all too true Phil...........LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

User currently offlineShyFlyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (10 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 4544 times:

Quoting Falcon84 (Thread starter):
And five weeks? That's absurd.

Not if you are on duty 24 hours a day, seven days a week.

User currently offlineJamesAg96 From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 2095 posts, RR: 3
Reply 14, posted (10 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 4526 times:

I feel bad for her, I really do...but her son joined...and Bush didn't kill him.

As for the 5 weeks of vacation...that shit is old...I'd venture to say that no President in the last 100 years or so has ever taken a vacation in the form we all know.

Hell when I am on vacation and still get calls on my cell AND have to monitor my email...all for work.

I need a real Vacation.

Why Kate, You're not wearing a bustle. How lewd.
User currently offlineSRQCrosscheck From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 211 posts, RR: 1
Reply 15, posted (10 years 9 months 4 weeks ago) and read 4514 times:

Quoting 11Bravo (Reply 8):
I'd want to go hide on the ranch too once I had seen some of the latest poll numbers.


So much for all that political capital he boasting about after the election. Looks like the American people are finnaly starting to realize where the buck stops.

The democrats are singing:
"The polls are back and you're gunna be in trouble. hey la, hey la, the polls are back!
When you seem them coming you better cut out on the double. hey la, hey la, the polls are back!
You've been spreadin' lies that we were untrue. hey la, hey la, the polls are back!

"The polls are back they're gunna save our reputation, hey la, hey la, the polls are back.
If we were you, we'd take a permanent vacation..."

"Vacationing Bush Poised to Set a Record," Washington Post, August 3

The August getaway is Bush's 49th trip to his cherished ranch since taking office and the 319th day that Bush has spent, entirely or partially, in Crawford -- nearly 20 percent of his presidency to date, according to Mark Knoller, a CBS Radio reporter known for keeping better records of the president's travel than the White House itself. Weekends and holidays at Camp David or at his parents' compound in Kennebunkport, Maine, bump up the proportion of Bush's time away from Washington even further.

Bush's long vacations are more than a curiosity: They play into diametrically opposite arguments about this leadership style. To critics and late-night comics, they symbolize a lackadaisical approach to the world's most important day job, an impression bolstered by Bush's two-hour midday exercise sessions and his disinclination to work nights or weekends. The more vociferous among Bush's foes have noted that he spent a month at the ranch shortly before the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks, when critics assert he should have been more attentive to warning signs.

To Bush and his advisers, that criticism fundamentally misunderstands his Texas sojourns. Those who think he does not remain in command, aides say, do not understand the modern presidency or Bush's own work habits. At the ranch, White House officials say, Bush continues to receive daily national security briefings, sign documents, hold teleconferences with aides and military commanders, and even meet with foreign leaders. And from the president's point of view, the long Texas stints are the best way to clear his mind and reconnect with everyday America.

"Spending time outside of Washington always gives the president a fresh perspective of what's on the minds of the American people," White House press secretary Scott McClellan told reporters Friday. "It's a time, really, for him to shed the coat and tie and meet with folks out in the heartland and hear what's on their minds."

Just as Bush has made these August trips a regular feature of his presidency, so, too, have Democrats made a tradition of needling him about them. This year, opposition politicians are tying his departure from Washington to the CIA leak case that has swept up his top adviser, Karl Rove.

Presidents have often sought refuge from the pressures of Washington and from life in the White House, which Harry S. Truman called the crown jewel of the American prison system. Richard M. Nixon favored Key Biscayne, Fla. Bush's father preferred Maine. Bill Clinton, lacking a home of his own, borrowed a house on Martha's Vineyard, except for two years when political adviser Dick Morris nudged him into going to Jackson, Wyo., before his reelection because it polled better.

Until now, probably no modern president was a more famous vacationer than Ronald Reagan, who loved spending time at his ranch in Santa Barbara, Calif. According to an Associated Press count, Reagan spent all or part of 335 days in Santa Barbara over his eight-year presidency -- a total that Bush will surpass this month in Crawford with 3 1/2 years left in his second term.

"The Oval Office is wherever the president of the United States is" [...]

Quoting JamesAg96 (Reply 14):
I feel bad for her, I really do...but her son joined...and Bush didn't kill him.

Unless he's a sociopath -- not outside of the realm of possibility -- I'd imagine he feels some responsibility for all of the deaths in Iraq.

[Edited 2005-08-08 08:01:56]

User currently offlineBoeingFever777 From United States of America, joined Jul 2009, 409 posts, RR: 52
Reply 16, posted (10 years 9 months 4 weeks ago) and read 4509 times:

Who cares... She is an attention whore! No one told her son to join the goddamn military! Go cry somewhere else where no one cares and Bush didn't kill him or make him join.

And to you ppl that think he takes lots of holiday... You think what he does is what you and I would do on holiday? not only no but hell He has a 24hr day he does/attempts to do his job from out of the lime light of Washington!

Least he does not jet set to the Hamptons and Hollywood like Clinton did.

[Edited 2005-08-08 08:09:30]

Faire du ciel le plus bel endroit de la terre.
User currently offlineAa777jr From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (10 years 9 months 4 weeks ago) and read 4507 times:

I recall President Clinton needing a haircut so badly, while on Air Force 1, they halted all air traffic at LAX so a barber could cut his hair onboard before his flight out. Get real people...

User currently offlineL-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 30410 posts, RR: 57
Reply 18, posted (10 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 4492 times:

I think mom needs to find a better outlet for her grief.

Becoming a publicity whore for the liberal left isn't a good one.

User currently offlineSoyuzavia From Australia, joined Jun 2005, 611 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (10 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 4484 times:
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Quoting Aa777jr (Reply 17):
I recall President Clinton needing a haircut so badly, while on Air Force 1, they halted all air traffic at LAX so a barber could cut his hair onboard before his flight out. Get real people...

You recall incorrectly. Didn't happen like that at all.

User currently offlineDc10guy From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 2685 posts, RR: 6
Reply 20, posted (10 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 4477 times:

Bush is always on vacation, Karl Rowe & Dick Cheney are the ones running things anyway... Hopefully this poor ladies protest will help keep more kids from signing up... And dying.

Next time try the old "dirty Sanchez" She'll love it !!!
User currently offlineOYRJA From Denmark, joined Feb 2007, 78 posts, RR: 13
Reply 21, posted (10 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 4476 times:

Quoting Falcon84 (Reply 3):
He's taken more vacation time than any president in history. Five weeks is just stupid, imho.

Thats nothing man... Here in Denmark we have 6 weeks vacation  Wink

User currently offlineJCS17 From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 8065 posts, RR: 36
Reply 22, posted (10 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 4475 times:

Haha... That's great, Phil! I've already hit that stump with a couple of my friends in the Guard. The best comeback they've had is, "Well, I didn't expect that to happen!"

Quoting Dc10guy (Reply 20):
Bush is always on vacation, Karl Rowe & Dick Cheney are the ones running things anyway... Hopefully this poor ladies protest will help keep more kids from signing up... And dying.

How's that GED coming along?

America's chickens are coming home to rooooost!
User currently offlineBaylorAirBear From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 2913 posts, RR: 45
Reply 23, posted (10 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 4465 times:

Quoting JCS17 (Reply 22):
How's that GED coming along?

Why? Do you need a tutor?


I'm just skipping stones...
User currently offlineJCS17 From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 8065 posts, RR: 36
Reply 24, posted (10 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 4460 times:

Quoting BaylorAirBear (Reply 23):
Why? Do you need a tutor?

No. Me's already got my GED. I was alluding to DC10guy's constant grammatical and spelling (Karl Rowe?) errors. I don't think I've ever glanced at one post of his and not cringed. I'm not even an English major!

America's chickens are coming home to rooooost!
25 Post contains images TedTAce : I would flame you but I just don't have the energy.
26 Post contains images Oldeuropean : No, that hero is testing new dangerous pretzels, he drives new bikes for the army, and for the rest of the day he plays golf, to meditate about the c
27 Falcon84 : Who the hell are YOU-a mindless yes-man for Mr. Bush, to tell anyone how to channel their grief, L-188? What gives you the right to flame her for wan
28 ANCFlyer : Actually, I do. We've got people in combat and regardless of whether or not he can "work from Crawford" the image sucks. Period. Vacation fine - take
29 Jaysit : That isn't the issue. A President should think 1000 times before he sends men and women into a war. War is not a big joke or a big game like this Pre
30 NonRevKing : That's the classic excuse isn't it? They knew what they were getting into. I'm sure they did. What I don't think any of them expected is Bush sending
31 Jaysit : And what's your comeback for why you've never served, but have no problem sending others to their deaths? The Nobel Prize winning research you're doi
32 Post contains images ANCFlyer : I have the matching set - there's a Left Wing pamphlet also . . . various chapters . . . "How to get a Knobber in the Oral Office" by Slick Willie; "
33 Post contains images NonRevKing : Total number of fatalities: 1 Bushs' BS war....Exactly. I guess Laura read the chapter by T. Kennedy, huh? B
34 11Bravo : Of course GWB didn’t personally kill her son, but his choices as Commander in Chief did. It is so tiresome to listen to conservatives try to deflec
35 Jaysit : Let's see now. Put a cum stained blue dress and a drowned girl on one side of the scales. Put 1820 slaughtered American soldiers on the other side. B
36 SlamClick : Do you think that is something new? In my 348 days in Vietnam I got four "campaign stars" on my Vietnam Service medal. Why? Because President Lyndon
37 Post contains images ANCFlyer : Being a librarian, she's likely read both pamphlets . . . I knew as soon as I made that post I'd get several replies like the ones posted above. My p
38 MaverickM11 : "The message also urges Bush to send his twin daughters, Jenna and Barbara, to Iraq "if the cause is so noble."" Who on earth SENDS their OWN children
39 Falcon84 : Why, Maverick? If it's so noble, and if some things are more precious than life itself, why SHOULDN'T he send his daughters to fight for HIS IDEALS?
40 SlamClick : Well, President Franklin D. Roosevelt for one. His son FDR Junior was a naval officer and saw combat in WWII.
41 Jaysit : And Lyndon Johnson paid the price for that in the form of withdrawing his nomination in '68. At least the old codger hung his head in shame for the e
42 Falcon84 : His Nephew, Theodore Roosevelt, son of President Theodore Roosevelt, was a General that landed on Normandy. He died of a heart attack on D-Day after
43 Jaysit : Amen. Well said. No matter the sacrifice, the shameless Bushies will shit on you if you dare challenge the Great Leader.[Edited 2005-08-08 18:34:35]
44 NonRevKing : Anyone who reads that should know to stay away from Mav for a while. His number is about to come up on the karma lottery. B
45 Jetjack74 : He may have taken more vacations, but he's one of the few presidents that has flown directly into a warzone when he visited the troops for Thanksgivi
46 Post contains images ANCFlyer : JetJack . . . my only point is I think it's that PotUS is spending too much time in Crawford (regardless of his ability to run things from there) when
47 Jetjack74 : I agree, He has taken to many holidays No, this wasn't directed at you, but to those who fail to understand that casualties are a part of going to wa
48 MaverickM11 : I know you're convinced otherwise, but this is a free country, and if you want to fight in a war, you are more than welcome, and if you don't, you do
49 Jaysit : Nice try, but no cigar. Although even as an opponent of this war, it would be awfully amusing to watch Rush Limbaugh, Ann Coulter and chicken hawks l
50 Jetjack74 : Michael Moore would be even funnier if he could actually run.
51 11Bravo : …, and I wasn’t insinuating that you were. It’s why I said “conservatives” and not “you”. As a matter of fact, you’re one of the very
52 Post contains links JamesAg96 : Well...isn't this an interesting tidbit on the young lady...remember everyone, she has already met him once. http://www.drudgereport.com/flash4.htm TH
53 ANCFlyer : Agreed . . . once the Iraqi Constitution is completed** there will be much to do. Additionally, I think Private Opinion - currently at an all time lo
54 Post contains images NonRevKing : Yes, cause we all know how reliable Drudge is. Hey! She's saying something that makes Bush look bad! Come up with something fast so we can Plame her!
55 Boeing Nut : I'm adapting the signiture of another A.net member............. January 21, 2009 can't come soon enough
56 Post contains links JamesAg96 : So sad nrk...don't like what you hear so attack the source. How about this one, the original article that is just referenced on Drudge. http://www.th
57 BaylorAirBear : Crawford is about 10 minutes from me. Do y'all want me to go interview her? Seriously, BaylorAirBear
58 Jetjack74 : Cindy Sheehan is a confused women who's grief was hijacked by the far-left kooks who are feeding on her loss. She has been given a platform and a posi
59 Post contains links Tbar220 : Actually, you're wrong about that. As somebody above showed, Bush is set to break the record for most vacation days, so NO, not virtually every Presi
60 Jetjack74 : YES, Go and get a picture with her. Post it here.
61 Post contains images MaverickM11 : Right after saying something that makes Bush look good....just ignore that part .
62 Post contains images SATX : That will never happen in our lifetimes. I agree. He can shit on us from anywhere. And now, here are the constructive conservatives coming out of the
63 Jaysit : When this war first started, the support for it was greater than 50%. After a majority of Americans realized that a. the Prez had lied about the WMDs
64 Post contains images Oldeuropean : There still will be more to die, hope that nobody here will lost someone he knows. It could change some minds. Axel [Edited 2005-08-08 22:45:16]
65 MaverickM11 : What if her son really believed in the cause?
66 Post contains images LOT767-300ER : This thread leads to this:
67 Post contains images AsstChiefMark : It wouldn't surprise me that Bush sits around watching TV all day. The Secret Service has turned on the V-chips so he can't watch any news channels. A
68 SRQCrosscheck : You mean each soldier isn't just another number? I bet he didn't know the WMD weren't there. Not if they bring back the draft. Soldiers died in Vietn
69 FlyingTexan : While asphyxiating on a pretzel. Suppose he watches the Dukes? Or does he go for Archie Bunker?
70 Post contains images MaverickM11 : The only ones that want to do that are Democrats .
71 SRQCrosscheck : I thought someone would bring that up. The ONLY reason Charles Rangel (D-NYC) wants to bring it back is to prove the point that rich, Republican Cong
72 Zeekiel : I agree. This is somebody's mother. Theres no need to be nasty. She has the right to protest what she wants. If she feels that Bush is reponsible for
73 BaylorAirBear : Lo siento. Apparently she didn't stay past Sat. I did get some other stuff that I will share in a few days though. If anyone wants to donate funds fo
74 FlyingTexan : Please do. Post it here (with her permission, of course). I’d love to see what she has to say (a primary source). Please give her my condolences fo
75 BaylorAirBear : See above. I guess now I'll be more on the lookout for this sort of thing and prepare. If anyone knows of something going on and you want me to get t
76 JamesAg96 : Am I reading that right...she isn't there anymore? I thought she was slated to stay through August.
77 L-188 : The more I read about this woman, the more I am convinced that she is a publicity whore, who is exploiting her son's death for her own political means
78 MaverickM11 : Reminds me of some of the 9-11 bitches who tried to turn their tragic loss into some bizarre-o political crusade.
79 Clipperhawaii : Mom changes her story now eh? First off, if there is anyone who has a right to voice ones opinion on this war, it is most certainly the mother of a fa
80 NonRevKing : According to MAV, if you lost your child on 9-11, but speak out against the policies of this president, you're a bitch. Further, if you've lost your c
81 Falcon84 : Well, since MAV has totally sold out to Bush on this site, I think that's a perfect summation, NRK. Unfortunately, too many conservatives on this site
82 JamesAg96 : Another immature and unnecessarey comment. Sad. You need to re-read his comment: He is not saying they are bitches for speaking out against the polic
83 NonRevKing : A bizaro political crusade, as defined by whom? Yes, you do. And you only read what you want. B
84 Falcon84 : James, OK, fine, maybe it's not you, although I question that one. But even with his idiotic meddling during the Schiavo case, mose righties on here j
85 MaverickM11 : Nope! Yup!
86 Falcon84 : So, because she speaks her mind, she's part of the "left-wing conspiracy" against the war. Puhleeez, Maverick. Grow up. Seems she got into this pretty
87 SATX : What's truly pathetic? 1. A mother who appreciates any media attention that helps her make the case that her son died in vain 2. A president who's too
88 Cfalk : She already met him. Since that meeting, her story about the meeting changed. I take that as a suggestion that Bush has nothing to gain by meeting he
89 JamesAg96 : Yes I do what...agree with his calling them bitches, or see his point? I do see his point, what happened in New York was terrible and I have a great
90 JamesAg96 : Where have you been....he has already met with her.
91 Post contains images NonRevKing : You have basic reading skills. Congrats! You get the gold star today! I'm glad you see his point. And I understand you see his point. Use your basic
92 SATX : Next time consider reading the whole post.
93 Post contains links SATX : Edited to add... You can keep up with Cindy's side of the story here: http://www.meetwithcindy.org/ You can keep up with Bush's side of the story her
94 B744F : Only if they set the record for most vacation days... guess which President did that? Possibly because they used their common sense and realized the
95 Post contains images MaverickM11 : Since when does losing a loved one in by default make you an expert on Mideast policy and politics? It's the same thing with Hollywood--just because
96 Post contains images Solarix : Instead of blaming Bush, she ought to be blaming the terrorist who pointed a gun at her son and shot him dead. I'd like to get Cindy's side of the sto
97 B744F : The war in Iraq was not about going after terrorists
98 Post contains images SATX : Perhaps it was about creating terrorists? In that case Bush can honestly claim a 100% successful mission. Now the next GOP candidate can still cling
99 Post contains links SATX : Since Cindy Sheehan's website is now down, possibly for good, here are some alternative links for those who are interested. President Bush Ditches Mot
100 L-188 : Don't confuse being smart enough not to be baited into that meeting, with cowardice SATX. Not meeting with her is smart. I wonder how true that "Secu
101 Post contains links JamesAg96 : Cindy's family breaks silence: http://www.drudgereport.com/flashcs.htm
102 Keesje : Why ? it wasn´t because of the WMD´s or get ´m back for 9-11 as he and his mates probably believed, nor defending his country now he´s no longer h
103 Post contains links FlyingTexan : Now she is threatening to stalk him. Mother of US Iraq casualty vows to follow Bush CRAWFORD, United States (AFP) - The mother of a US soldier killed
104 DL021 : I think that she has the right to say whatever she wants..... ....I also think she is a self-serving piece of crap who is shaming the memory of her so
105 BaylorAirBear : I wonder who she's getting to pay her bills. Maybe I could do something like this and not have to worry about working. BaylorAirBear
106 TedTAce : It's amazing how much money is available for those 'with the right issue'. I remember the whole Elian conzales thing In Miami.. Those Fuckers had Nex
107 FlyingTexan : Some – but too few – people actually do a very un-American thing and save money. And I’m talking more than $1,000. Some don’t exist paycheck-
108 B757300 : Two sources. One, she is using the money from her son's life insurence policy. The rest is coming from her Gold Star Families for Peace organization
109 Falcon84 : Pardon me while I laugh my friggin' ass off at that one, JetJack. Where do you get such unsupported tripe, dude? Do you REALLY believe that everyone
110 Post contains links Jetjack74 : Just read the article, Falcon. She's quoted as saying things like this in 2004 -"I now know he's sincere about wanting freedom for the Iraqis,' Cindy
111 BoeingFever777 : lame! not as brown as yours and your nose. Didn't say I was... nother lame post with no meaning. Did I say I support the war? Typical... trying to pu
112 Post contains links and images Keesje : "I sympathize with her. She feels strongly about her, about her position, And I am -- she has every right in the world to say what she believes. This
113 Jamesag96 : Alpha, did you not read this? Or are you ignoring it becasue you aren't a fan of B757: You are as you are perceived, and if that is the type of compa
114 DL021 : Keesje....If you are going to quote me, then use the whole thing, since you don't have the ability to be anything other than disengenuous with your us
115 Keesje : I'm sure he and his advisers have already spend hours to come up with the right strategy. It comes at the wrong time & is extremely damaging for the
116 ANCFlyer : That is just about the most bizarre, left field, nut job post I think I've ever read. It rates right up there with RSMith and that lame, ridiculous,
117 Clipperhawaii : Sheehan Family Statement: The Sheehan Family lost our beloved Casey in the Iraq War and we have been silently, respectfully grieving. We do not agree
118 Jetjack74 : Nobody is saying she doesn't have a right to her opinions. Her passion is compelling, but also misguided. She's getting angry at the fact that her so
119 NonRevKing : Part of loving and supporting our troops is not putting them in harms way unless it's absolutely necessary. This war was not absolutely necessary. B
120 Jaysit : Lets wait for Casey's aunts and uncles to lose Casey's numerous cousins in this war. Until then these disgusting SOBs should STF up, and show some re
121 Jetjack74 : That's not her decision to make. The simple fact remains, he signed up, and there's no getting around it. Nobody forced him to do it.
122 MaverickM11 : I don't disagree with Bush--she has every right to speak her mind, and I sympathize with the loss of her son. On the other hand, if she's going to ma
123 Jaysit : But sitting on one's tucchus and reading about the war on the Drudge Report as you eat that nth slice of pepperoni pizza gives the Bush cheerleaders
124 MaverickM11 : But sitting on one's tucchus and reading about the war on the New York Times Editorial Page as you eat that nth slice of pepperoni pizza gives the Bu
125 Clipperhawaii : Oh please. What, they can't express their feelings too? Hypocritical mass there on your part. It's important to know what the real reason behind thin
126 MaverickM11 : Either you have a very twisted sense of irony or you are an unbelievable hypocrite. My guess is the latter. I can't believe you can write that with a
127 JamesAg96 : That doesn't matter, you are being disrespectful and engaging in direct name calling...and should be called out on it.
128 Post contains images SATX : He's the President of the United States. If he doesn't have the background and wherewithal to be able to handle one single civilian's grievance in pr
129 DL021 : I said what I said because she is using her sons death to further her own specific political goals. It's a plain and simple grab at attention. She's w
130 Falcon84 : Gee. Ian, I think Bush is using those young Americans that have died to further HIS own specific political goals, hasn't he? Those on here bemoaning
131 ANCFlyer : Well, ok there Hero . . . NO, comparing you to RSmith and his usual line of Bush Bash Bullshit in this instance is Spot On. There was no indication y
132 Psa53 : I'll just say agree totally with the president's stance and comments.I wouldn't meet her ethier.She's the media's perfect party speaker. Media has alw
133 Clipperhawaii : Are you serious? Well, she met with the President prior. She had her say. We hear her pain and her message. Enough already with this circus of hers.
134 SATX : Perhaps it's the part where you failed to explain why it's so important to bash my post. Rsmith may have his heart in the right place, but he has a h
135 Post contains images ANCFlyer : You handled that yourself . . . right here. Suggesting the intent was to create more terrorist - geeez, why am I explaining your own motives to you?
136 Jetjack74 : Yeah sure. I think the real shame here is her exploitation by the Democrats, by John Conyers. John Conyers dragged her to his impeachment meeting ove
137 Post contains links and images SATX : Nice shot. And yet, I thought you also prided yourself on not taking comments out of context. From now on either stick to the thread's subject or sta
138 ANCFlyer : Pot, Kettle, Black - that's how this conversation got started, replying to your out of context, off topic remark. Next?
139 SATX : So, if her own words are not good enough for you, what exactly would it take to convince you that she is not a tool of the vast liberal conspiracy? G
140 Post contains links SATX : Here is an article from the BBC about this and similar events involving other mothers of the fallen. Apparently this mother's position isn't so unique
141 Jetjack74 : It was her own words that have made me skeptical of her motives. She has been quoted praising president Bush last year. You claim that she says her r
142 EA CO AS : So the President may only send troops into war when there's absolutely NO risk whatsoever of them being killed? Is that it? Because we have a VOLUNTE
143 Post contains images SATX : I have merely quoted the lady in question. SATX and Cindy Sheehan are two separate people who have never met. In her own words from Tuesday, August 9
144 MaverickM11 : There are two separate things going on here; she's lost her son, and she's on a political crusade. If Michael Moore lost a relative in 9-11 and still
145 Jaysit : They are. Her husband, children, her sisters, and her husbands siblings agree with Cindy Sheehan. And yet, you find no issue with the President and h
146 Jetjack74 : The only thing this proves is that this woman is in a dilusional dreamworld. The 9/11 commision is just another one of these blue-ribbon panels of po
147 Post contains images MaverickM11 : There are at least two incorrect assumptions in that statement but that's never stopped you before . I hope you get drafted too. Seeing your butt whe
148 Clipperhawaii : And her comedy routine countinues. "You get America out of Iraq and Israel out of Palestine and you'll stop the terrorism." "My son was killed in 2004
149 UAL747 : The "folks" in the heartland aren't really the ones who he should be listening to. BTW, this president makes me hate the word "folks." He uses it in
150 L-188 : He he he....I hope she tries that one, that might be interesting. Window dressing, fact is we want one with our values, not some hamptons raised snob
151 LOT767-300ER : LMFAO. Thats funny...whats even more funnier is that Jaysit again doesnt understand the concept of a volunteer military. If you volunteer and we are
152 UAL747 : What exactly are "our" values? We need a president that can be objective and understand that we all as humans don't have the same value systems. We n
153 FlyingTexan : Inferno Revenue Service gonna crucify her ass.
154 BaylorAirBear : When I spoke with her this weekend she said, "I do not want to speak to President Bush necessarily. I only want him to admit that he was wrong about W
155 Post contains images ANCFlyer : Ahhh, the story develops . . . . it's not about her son . . . . it's about an agenda some other group of fruitloops put in her head . . . as if that
156 BaylorAirBear : On my honor. For what it's worth, you can take that to the bank. I have no motive in putting words into her mouth. BaylorAirBear
157 Post contains links and images SATX : Yes, there certainly are. 1. You claiming to be sympathetic 2. You just being pathetic. Stick to your guns! Don't back down now! Keep calling her a '
158 BaylorAirBear : Sorry I didn't preface my post. Nonetheless, thanks. BaylorAirBear
159 Clipperhawaii : That's correct. She has had here say TWICE! Once in the company of the President and now once again in the heat of a Texas afternoon. And now I have
160 Post contains images MaverickM11 : Darn!
161 Jaysit : For all of you people who in your crazed passion and love for the Great Leader are willing to blindly rely on the Drudge Report, here are some facts:
162 Jetjack74 : "I now know he's sincere about wanting freedom for the Iraqis," Cindy said after their meeting. "I know he's sorry and feels some pain for our loss.
163 JCS17 : Her husband has just filed for divorce. For the love of God, get this woman out from in front of the CNN camera and get her some counseling pronto.
164 Post contains images LOT767-300ER : Cue in the Kool-Aid man from Family Guy breaking into the courtroom I just read this too, hehehe shes about as stable as SATX at an NRA meeting.
165 SATX : It looks like she's handling it pretty well considering the situation. Some nutcase took his truck and ran over all the crosses they had setup. Now T
166 BaylorAirBear : That has nothing to do with her son. BaylorAirBear
167 SATX : A few minutes of oral sex from an ugly intern, years of endless media condemnation, and $40,000,000 or more of our taxpayer money wasted by the conse
168 LOT767-300ER : Add to the list Perjury, oh yes add 35,000 dead in his little Balkan escapade in 1999. Oh wait, that was was an illegal war also, one which congress
169 Post contains links and images EA CO AS : I'm guessing "irreconcilable differences." She's made it her life's mission to destroy President Bush, whereas he just wants a life. Too bad he wasn'
170 Cfalk : I understand that Sheehan admitted in an MSNBC interview that she is actually happy that Bush has not seen her again, as it gives her more time in the
171 DL021 : Every person who automatically states that soldiers enlist solely for the college money can simply kiss my ass. They enlist knowing the risks, and do
172 Post contains links SATX : http://www.salon.com/politics/war_ro...oom/2005/08/15/sheehan2/index.html http://www.meetwithcindy.org/
173 Jamesag96 : I quoted the original story that Drudge referred too...did they get it wrong too or are you hanging out with NRK now?
174 Cfalk : LOL! Now there is someone who will be fair and equitable in her views! What a loon. The left is cumming in their pants now that they have a gold star
175 Post contains images ANCFlyer : Ditto . . . . The entire episode has turned in to one giant clusterfuck media circus with all manner of people with all manner of agendas. It isn't a
176 Post contains images EA CO AS : Uh-huh, Cindy. I'm sure he said that. "Wait - you mean I have to actually DO something to earn this free education?" This is one of the cases where i
177 SATX : And yet you keep coming back to the thread?
178 Post contains links and images SATX : Here are some more details about the nutcase who took it upon himself to run over the rows of grave markers. http://crawfordupdate.blogspot.com/2005/0
179 Post contains images ANCFlyer : I said the situation in Texas was dicked up and beyond repair - and although this thread is as well - I like to see what bizarre shit people like you
180 11Bravo : You got that right. What I find ironic about this whole deal is that it seems to me that the pro-war crowd is shooting themselves in the foot here by
181 Post contains images ANCFlyer : You're only half right my friend - there are as many Anti-war fruit loops out there as there are pro-war . . . did you intentionally leave that part
182 11Bravo : There are absolutely a bunch of anti-war moveon.org types there as well. I just don't think the media would be so fixated on the story if the pro-war
183 EA CO AS : Yes, as the sad pariah she's become. Her family thinks she's nuts, her husband is leaving her, it's all because she's obsessed with making President
184 B744F : Of course she's nuts, she lost her son I think part of the requirement for being a conservative is you have no heart, you are full of hate and fear,
185 Cfalk : And as she has lost her son, she has been given a lot of leeway. Fine, she's entitled to that. But that does mean she gets a free pass. She's has ass
186 EA CO AS : If that's the case, then so is the rest of the saying - that part of being a liberal means you have no brain.
187 Post contains links and images Cfalk : Makes it unanimous - check reply 186 (unless it gets deleted ) http://www.airliners.net/discussions/non_aviation/read.main/900362/
188 Daedaeg : Agreed. This woman needs to stop embarassing herself and get help. She will forever harbor hatred towards Bush if she continues this way. She is bein
189 SATX : Conservatives 'love thy neighbor', but anyone who doesn't live on their street is apparently fair game for hatred and ridicule. Bullshit. You have do
190 Cfalk : Because she is not doing it for her son. She has insulted her own son, saying that he never intended to fight for his country. She has publicly admit
191 EA CO AS : Come on, now - there IS such a thing as "milking it," and that's exactly what she's doing right now. It's reasonable for her to grieve, however there
192 Jetjack74 : Bush does not owe anything personally to Cindy Sheehan. He gave his condolences to her personally. That's 10 times more than most families of slain s
193 Post contains links Jetjack74 : I wonder what's the driving force behind this?
194 BaylorAirBear : I agree. My point is that, at most, the realtionship between Bush being wrong about WMDs and Casey Sheehan dying are extraordinarily indirect. Theref
195 SATX : Latest Update from Cindy Sheehan for those who are interested.
196 TrijetFan1 : SHES reaching Micheal Moore status!!!
197 Post contains links SATX : Conservatives often bitch, piss and moan about frivolous lawsuits. So why don't they even raise a whisper about frivolous military operations costing
198 Post contains links Jetjack74 : And such moronic sludge from the anti-war mis-movement isn't just as dangerous. And here is the thesis of these stooges that you cite as your source
199 ANCFlyer : Apples and Oranges . . . they don't even compare . . . not even close . . . not in the same ballpark . . . no even in the same league. And last time
200 ANCFlyer : Sheehan Update: Apparently Ms. sheehan's Mother suffered a stroke today and she has left the Crawford area. First, prayers for her Mother, I hope that
201 L-188 : Speaking of those crosses, did you guys hear about that mom that showed up yesterday and removed her late son's from the display.... Didn't think it w
202 BaylorAirBear : *This is a purely objective observation* I went out there today. Anyone one who came to Crawford because of sympathy/empathy, for the most part, has l
203 ANCFlyer : And anyone that expected different is operating on a the Alternate Frequency. Time for this thread to be locked - Ms. Sheehans 15 minutes of fame are
204 Clipperhawaii : Is this lady still out there in the Texas sun? My God! Son dies in war - Strike one! Used by liberal media and left wing groups - Strike two! Family m
205 Jetjack74 : Meaning the media
206 Post contains images Texdravid : By your definition, then the converse must also be true. Liberals like Michael Moore and Moveon.org are full of love and kisses, right? Liberals who
207 SATX : FOX NEWS, NBC, CNBC, MSNBC, The Washington Times, Clear Channel, the Wall Street Journal etc, etc, etc, are there to push that story. If the public d
208 ANCFlyer : SATX, I'll never talk bad about ones parents . . . that's a guarantee. And I want to make this abundantly clear to everyone reading this thread. That
209 GuitrThree : Of course its not her fault.. She's going to blame it on Bush...
210 BaylorAirBear : I agree. However, I feel that more credence would be given to those who find their own soap box to stand on, rather than leech off of someone else. B
211 Itsjustme : I don't understand why Mrs. Sheehan is being maligned for changing her opinion of Mr. Bush. Hell, in the days and even weeks following 9/11, Bush coul
212 L-188 : Clearly, it is amazing how people who grow up in sterile enviroments llike that tend to end up as liberals.
213 AGM114L : I was talking to other soldiers about this Crawford situation, and we all pretty much agreed we would be rolling in our graves should we happen to die
214 Jetjack74 : Well put, AGM, I said the exact same thing a few posts up, but the treehuggers on here like to pretend that enlistment contract isn't legitimate
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