Wunalayann From Australia, joined Mar 2005, 2839 posts, RR: 31 Reply 2, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 1011 times:
30-13 is very flattering for the Wallabies...
Then again, you cannot expect to win in 2005 playing 1998 rugby. It is amazing to watch the Wallabies multiply ball-carrying phases to basically no avail.
Tuqiri, who is a great player, was a perfect illustration of this sterile style of play. Running 40m from a touch line to the other, while gaining 3m is just pointless.
Eddie Jones was right. Probably Australia does not have the talent pool to compete with the All Blacks, and even with France, England, Ireland and Wales. Injuries or not, there is no excuse.
The All Blacks on the other hand continue to reinvent rugby with each new outing. This time they showed that they have again a dominating forward pack, just like against the Lions and the Springboks. So'oialo is simply brilliant. And of course whenever the ball goes past Carter it is fireworks.
2 years before the World Cup, plenty of time to gain momentum or falter...
QANTASFOREVER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 3, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 1000 times:
Kudos to the New Zealanders, they played a brilliantly prepared game of rugby. You could feel their minds buzzing with training as they excecuted an extremely deserving win.
Zeekiel From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 4, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 1001 times:
Quoting Bill142 (Reply 1): What an awsome rugby team we have.
Yes. Yes you do.
Quoting Wunalayann (Reply 2): Probably Australia does not have the talent pool to compete with the All Blacks, and even with France, England, Ireland and Wales.
Depends. Australia actually has a larger number (absolute, not relative) of rugby union players than New Zealand.
I think what may stifle the depth is the fact that Australia does not have a "NPC" sort of feeding system into the Super 12 (14). The NPC is great as it allows Super 12 (14) coaches and selectors to identify local talent at a more stratified level.
Although there are some players who played Super 12 (14) before they played NPC.
GVBIG From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2004, 341 posts, RR: 0 Reply 8, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 979 times:
Quoting QANTASforever (Reply 7): Tell me, I've always wondered this. Is there are fairly large Australian population in New Zealand? If so, where do most tend to live?
I would say in large cities. I have heard that the cost of living in NZ was significantly higher than in Oz. Less useable land, apparently. We were in this pub in MEL watching the game and the entire upper floor was all Kiwi!!! Just imagine the atmosphere!
Zeekiel From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 10, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 972 times:
Quoting QANTASforever (Reply 7): Is there are fairly large Australian population in New Zealand? If so, where do most tend to live?
Actually the fulla next door was an Australian from Sydney. Him and his family moved to another part of the suburb (only 1 minutes walk from my house).
There are quite a few Australians here (all things considering). I think its something like 20,000.
Quoting Wunalayann (Reply 9): I have heard that the cost of living in NZ was significantly higher than in Oz.
I don't know where that came from. Living here is cheap as chips. Especially compared to somewhere like Sydney. The equivalent of my house (which is 1 minutes walk from the beach) in Sydney is something like $2.5-3.5 million. Of course, my family paid much less than that.
Cars are cheaper, food is about the same and there's no such thing as stamp duty on houses here. We may have smaller salaries but we pay less tax than Australia. So the average disposable income weighs in at about the same.
Quoting Wunalayann (Reply 9): We were in this pub in MEL watching the game and the entire upper floor was all Kiwi!!!
A fellow Melburnian. How few we are? Especially ones that are watching or are near televised rugby.
What pub were you at? If you were at the Elephant and Wheelbarrow, then I'm not surprised.
I remember watching the second test against the Lions at the Crown Casino just last month. I have never seen so many New Zealanders pack up a bar to watch a rugby game.
Zeekiel From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 14, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 946 times:
Quoting WunalaYann (Reply 13): Where's that Elephant and Wheelbarrow joint of yours?
These Elephant and Wheelbarrows are supposed to be in the City/St Kilda/Richmond area.
My one is on the corner of Bourke and Exhibition Streets. There's a neat little kebab place down Bourke Street from there called "Skewers". Tasty feeds if you are in the city.
The location is even more convenient since the apartment I stay at is only a block's walk (corner of Exhibition and Lonsade Streets).
Actually I haven't been on a night out in Chapel Street. I made a huge mistake last time I was there with my mates to walk all the way from Depot (near the MCG) to Revolver. The worst thing was there was a $25 cover charge at Revolver. So we eventually cabbed into town.
Cheap as chups you mean? You are right though, the cost of living is generally cheaper in New Zealand, especially if you get out of Auckland.
Anyway back to the rugby, I hope Daniel Carter's injury isn't as bad as it looked - it would be a shame to lose such a talented player. Not to mention someone cheeky enough to trip Gregan like he did hehehehe.
The real test will be the South Africans - they certainly seem to be in good form, and will likely roll all over the Australians...
Quoting Zeekiel (Reply 4): I think what may stifle the depth is the fact that Australia does not have a "NPC" sort of feeding system
Shhh! Don't let them in on our secret, or they'll start beating us! Seriously though, I guess between the AFL and the NRL, there probably isn't enough marketing clout available to get a national rugby union competition up and running over here...
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"So powerful is the light of unity that it can illuminate the whole earth." - Bahá'u'lláh
It's funny watching that show off Channel 9 "Temptation" every night and hearing Livinia Nixon's pronounciation of the "Perth Meent".
Quoting VirginFlyer (Reply 15): The real test will be the South Africans - they certainly seem to be in good form, and will likely roll all over the Australians...
Mate, Perth is like a second home for the South African teams. Probably Auckland's North Shore after that.
It's going to be a physical clash of the titans. The Springbok pack is looking very good. I have to be frank and say the Wallaby pack is lacking puff and there's no strong ball running capability in the forward pack apart from John Roe and David Lyons.
Quoting VirginFlyer (Reply 15): I hope Daniel Carter's injury isn't as bad as it looked - it would be a shame to lose such a talented player
He's out for 6-12 weeks which is a massive blow. We have good depth at first-five or fly half. Luke McAlister and Aaron Mauger despite their lack of play in the position at test level, they should fit in comfortably.
VirginFlyer From New Zealand, joined Sep 2000, 4502 posts, RR: 50 Reply 17, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 932 times:
Quoting Zeekiel (Reply 16): It's funny watching that show off Channel 9 "Temptation" every night and hearing Livinia Nixon's pronounciation of the "Perth Meent".
Hehehehe - meanwhile, over here we get Motorway Patrol, Serious Crash Unit and Coastwatch (the one with the Fisheries patrol) - I've only been out of NZ for 3 and a half years, but already some of the accents (eccints) sound quite foreign to me. Sadly (or not, depending on who's view you take), I've managed to pick up the Aussie accent...
Quoting Zeekiel (Reply 16): He's out for 6-12 weeks which is a massive blow.
Bugger, that is a shame! What is the extent of the injury?
V/F
"So powerful is the light of unity that it can illuminate the whole earth." - Bahá'u'lláh
Zeekiel From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 18, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 926 times:
Quoting VirginFlyer (Reply 17): Hehehehe - meanwhile, over here we get Motorway Patrol, Serious Crash Unit and Coastwatch (the one with the Fisheries patrol)
Just wait until you see the episode of Motorway Patrol with the fulla and his "Maori drivers licence". I laughed my head off all night thinking about that.
Quoting VirginFlyer (Reply 17): Sadly (or not, depending on who's view you take), I've managed to pick up the Aussie accent...
My accent is a bit of the same. I lived in Australia about 7 years ago and I still have a bit of an Australian accent. Most annoying thing is that I pronounce different words in Australian or New Zealand accents.
Quoting VirginFlyer (Reply 17): Bugger, that is a shame! What is the extent of the injury?
I suppose he needed to be carried off the field. Word is that:
"significant damage" to deep muscles and other tissues in his calf.
What a loss! I really enjoy watching him give other sides a headache and pulling off some stunning moves.
It's funny watching that show off Channel 9 "Temptation" every night and hearing Livinia Nixon's pronounciation of the "Perth Meent".
Mild accents of any nationality can sound lovely - Australian and NZer included. You guys have this thing about us stressing "e" sounds while we often think they don't exist in the New Zealand lexicon (case in point - "Tim" becomes "Tm"). That referrs to majorly thick New Zealand accents though, as do many of the impressions you guys throw our way.
I often watch New Zealand newsweek on Sky - your newsreaders have a lovely mild accent that I know is shared by a great many people there. See the same in us - that's all I ask.
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Shhh! Don't let them in on our secret, or they'll start beating us! Seriously though, I guess between the AFL and the NRL, there probably isn't enough marketing clout available to get a national rugby union competition up and running over here...
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