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RIP Former NZ Pm David Lange  
User currently offlineJetjack74 From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 7510 posts, RR: 49
Posted (10 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 1715 times:
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Former NZ PM dies at age 63. Hee was NZ PM form 1984-1989

[Edited 2005-08-14 07:30:08]

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User currently offlineZeekiel From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (10 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 1707 times:


I respect him most for sticking up for our anti-nuclear policy.

While I don't agree with it, he deserves a round of applause for doing what he thought was right and true.

His economic reforms enabled New Zealand to transform into a modern competitive market that we are reaping the benefits of.

That is the true test of a man.

"I can smell the uranium coming from your breath"



(P.S. As a little side note, isn't it interesting we're feel like outcasts for an anti-nuclear policy today (not then) despite the fact the United States is trying to rid the world of nuclear weapons.)

[Edited 2005-08-14 07:54:23]

User currently offlineQANTASforever From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (10 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 1711 times:

Lange was certainly one of those rare antipodean statesmen who commanded attention in almost any venue. He's certainly up there with the likes of Whitlam, Muldoon and Menzies in this regard.

He seemed to be a formidable man, a politician who took decisions on principle (anti-nuclear policy) in the face of huge American resentment. In doing so, he shaped New Zealand politics in a very significant way. No doubt this legacy will live on in New Zealand politics for years to come.

Just 63 years old. Such a shame.


User currently offlinePacificjourney From New Zealand, joined Jul 2001, 2741 posts, RR: 7
Reply 3, posted (10 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 1690 times:

This guy shaped (or reshaped) NZ as the country it is now.

People seem to emphasise the anti-nuke stuff but the real changes were economic, from basic controlled economy to probably the most truely free and liberal economy on the planet !

Truely a serious physical presence in person as well and not just because of his size. I met him several times with some special moments when in the navy during a tour of the south pacific and us and his camera and .....

- Actual event, launch of some foodie tourism project in the UK which DL attended. Another guest demures from the chocolates with the 'my bodies a temple' line. Lange replies, " ... well mines a warehouse so pass them over ".

RIP Dave, they're all small compared to you.

" Help, help ... I'm being oppressed ... "
User currently offlineZKSUJ From New Zealand, joined May 2004, 7233 posts, RR: 11
Reply 4, posted (10 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 1676 times:

A guy who no doubt left a huge impact on New Zealand as a country. May he rest in Peace.

User currently offlineYyz717 From Canada, joined Sep 2001, 16525 posts, RR: 54
Reply 5, posted (10 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 1668 times:

This man was a true modern day national hero. His economic liberalization policies unleashed the entrepreneurial zeal of NZe'rs and enriched NZ.

I dumped at the gybe mark in strong winds when I looked up at a Porter Q400 on finals. Can't stop spotting.
User currently offlineWhiteHatter From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (10 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 1667 times:

He always seemed a decent man as well as a politician, and stuck to his principles. A rarity in politics in any country.

A loss to our friends in NZ and RIP to a good and principled leader.

User currently offlineVirginFlyer From New Zealand, joined Sep 2000, 4652 posts, RR: 37
Reply 7, posted (10 years 9 months 2 weeks 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 1642 times:

I was very saddened to hear of his passing. He was truly a witty and intellectual leader, and a skilled orator. His government made massive reforms which have laid the foundation for where New Zealand is at now. People may not agree with them all, but it can't be denied that he truly left his mark on the country.

The first time I heard he was ill was when he was interviewed on TV programme here in Australia. Having not been in NZ for a couple of years, I was shocked to see how ill he looked. It is really sad how quickly he deteriorated. It seems his mental prowess remained though - when his leg was amputated a couple of weeks ago, it had to be done under local anaesthetic (since he was too ill for general), and during the operation, he asked the surgeon if he was certain he was cutting off the correct leg.

For interest, there were a number of articles about David Lange in today's New Zealand Herald:
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/index.cfm?c_id=1&ObjectID=10340837 (Politicians mark time for Lange passing)
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/index.cfm?c_id=1&ObjectID=10340836 (Indian community pays homage to their champion)
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/index.cfm?c_id=1&ObjectID=10340838 (Where he really stopped for a cuppa)
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/index.cfm?c_id=1&ObjectID=10340780 (Obituary: David Russell Lange)
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/index.cfm?c_id=1&ObjectID=10340776 (Tributes for David Lange)
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/index.cfm?c_id=1&ObjectID=10340845 (Milestones in the life of David Lange)
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/index.cfm?c_id=1&ObjectID=10340844 (David Lange, in his own words)
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/index.cfm?c_id=1&ObjectID=10340783 (Editorial: Leader who enriched the nation)
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/index.cfm?c_id=1&ObjectID=10340834 (Brilliant, flawed, master of irony)
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/index.cfm?c_id=1&ObjectID=10340818 (David Lange's isolation in his last years)
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/index.cfm?c_id=1&ObjectID=10340763 (David Lange's valedictory speech in Parliament August 22, 1996)

It is a terrible shame to see him pass away at such a young age. We have lost a great New Zealander, loved by many, and especially by his Mangere electorate. He will be sorely missed.


"So powerful is the light of unity that it can illuminate the whole earth." - Bahá'u'lláh
User currently offlineGDB From United Kingdom, joined May 2001, 13605 posts, RR: 76
Reply 8, posted (10 years 9 months 2 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 1633 times:

I was going to post an obituary, but VirginFlyer has made that unnecessary!

Whether you agreed with some or all of his ideas, Lange was well beyond just being a big political fish in a small pond, well known abroad, albeit aided by the stupid and inept piece of French sabotage and US bullying, he certainly seemed a larger than life figure in more ways then one.
Not the standard buffed up, spin spouting politico.

His appearance in the 1985 Oxford Union debate on Nuclear arms is well remembered, his opponent was, wait for it, US fundamentalist nut Jerry Falwell!
Even if you did not agree with Lange's general stance, your sympathy would always be with this eccentric but worldly man, not the fanatic he was debating with.

User currently offlineUnited Airline From Hong Kong, joined Jan 2001, 9502 posts, RR: 13
Reply 9, posted (10 years 9 months 2 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 1629 times:

Wow that's quite young..... 63......

Anyway RIP

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