Cfalk From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Posted (9 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 1648 times:
Iranian leader Ayatollah Khamenei says it's not insurgents blowing up U.S. and Iraqi forces in Iraq, it's American and Israeli intelligence that want the Iraqi government to fail and the occupation of Iraq to continue. Khamenei, in a speech translated by the Middle East Media Research Institute (search), says, "If ... [U.S. forces] wanted to resolve the lack of security in Iraq, they could ... [T]here are indications ... that these acts of terrorism are the handiwork of American and Zionist espionage services."
He says the U.S. "foolishly" and "falsely" accuses Iran and Syria of letting insurgents cross into Iraq, insisting, "[Americans] are to blame. ... This is not mere speculation. This is actual information." As for what that information is, Khamenei didn't say.
Quote: “Thousands of American military, intelligence and security forces are present all over Iraq, and the terrorists are under the eyes of U.S. forces. Thus, if U.S. forces wanted to deal with and put an end to insecurity in that country, they would be able to do so,”
Quote: Even some believe that the insecurity in Iraq is fomented by U.S. and Zionist intelligence services, since insecurity provides a pretext for the continued occupation of Iraq.”
Quote: "In order to cover up their failure and defeat in Iraq and avoid the realities, U.S. officials are leveling baseless accusations against Iran and Syria. But it is quite clear that these allegations are absurd and nonsensical, because the terrorist groups operating in Iraq are either nourished by the United States, or they are under U.S. influence,"
Quoting Cfalk (Thread starter): When these guys start making accusations like this it sounds like they are trying to cover their own tracks. The scary thing is, some people will believe it.
Soyuzavia From Australia, joined Jun 2005, 611 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (9 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 1584 times:
Quoting Cfalk (Reply 2): What's your point? Are you supporting my arguement, or Khameni's?
Actually, I'm not supporting your argument, or Khameini's argument, but I am saying that you are 'scary' for believing what Fox prints.
'Your' argument is flawed, because it does not match what was 'said'. What is on his site is very much open for interpretation -- he may or may not be amongst those "some" who believe the US or Zionist forces are behind the insurgency. MEMRI (who has an agenda) has done their own interpretation and printed it as 'fact'.
His argument is flawed, if in fact that is what he was suggesting, because it is idiotic. It is nothing more than rhetoric, the same type of rhetoric that your friends at Foxnews like to publicise against the Iranians.
Quoting 777236ER (Reply 3): Ignore him, he's just bitter the USSR isn't around to join in the fun.
B744F From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (9 years 11 months 2 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 1547 times:
Why would Mossad spend all this money and time getting involved in a country it couldn't care less about when instead it could devote the resources to a country that is actually a threat and poses some economic benefit? Egypt, Jordan, Syria, Saudi Arabia, Lebanon, etc