Zippyjet From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 5740 posts, RR: 12 Posted (10 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 3180 times:
Not to wish anyone or any business misfortune. But, I heard that in New York City, the once great radio station formerly known as WCBS-FM switched to this mindless corporate cheap format. Guess what folks? In this last Arbitron ratings book. WCBS-FM was 9th. in Gotham City. Since this radio giant switched to JACK ratings dropped to 17th. place! When will the corporate bean counters ever learn, that the public knows crap when they see it or in this case hear it! You can pour honey over shit: But it is still shit none the less! Lets hope Bob, Jack and Dan vanish as quickly as cheap gasoline. Let us hope that in Baltimore, the reactions and results will be the same!
BNAflyer78 From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 258 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (10 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 3123 times:
JACK-FM is here in Nashville too - they just switched formats a few months ago. Actually it cracks me up because it took over the oldies station and every once and a while, they'll play recordings of these IRATE people who can't find their oldies and don't realize that they are being made fun of!
The music sucks though....Garth Brooks one minute and Lords of Acid the next!
LTBEWR From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 13766 posts, RR: 17
Reply 3, posted (10 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 3097 times:
The conversion of one of the leading 'oldies' stations in the USA in NYC to this Jack(shi#) format was absolutly terrible. Problem is all the owners of radio stations only want the 15-35 crowd, who don't even listen to radio anymore, preferring to listen to bootleg recordings on their computers, MP3 players and I-Pods and not get a 20 minutes of commercials or babble per hour. I hope they fail miserably.
DFORCE1 From Canada, joined Jul 2005, 506 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (10 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 3073 times:
We've got JACK in Victoria and Vancouver. While it's grown in popularity in Vancouver, it's ratings have been awful compared to its predecessor HOT103 - a chart music teen station. And I hate JACK too!
Captaingomes From Canada, joined Feb 2001, 6413 posts, RR: 54
Reply 7, posted (10 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 3029 times:
We have JackFM in Toronto, and we can also pick up the Buffalo station. It's an altenative really. It's not bad for listening to some stuff that is otherwise overplayed elsewhere. Here in Toronto at least, you can get some pretty good sets of music, but there are also a lot of crappy ones too.
My biggest pet peeve with JackFM is that they cut short the songs, even ones that have memorable endings. It's like they used a computer to cut 5 or 10 seconds from the tail end of a song without having anybody actually check to see how it sounds!
"it's kind of like an Airbus, it's an engineering marvel, but there's no sense of passion" -- J. Clarkson re: Coxster
Seb146 From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 13674 posts, RR: 14
Reply 8, posted (10 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 3001 times:
We don't have Jack-FM in Portland, but we have his brother, Charlie FM. They play everything from Beach Boys to Beastie Boys. Blech. I bought Sirius Radio for a reason. (Area 63 RULES!!!) When I do listen to the radio, I listen to Progressive Talk or 94.7 Alternative Portland. I lived through the 1980s and 1990s once. Why would I want to do it again?
Matt D From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 9502 posts, RR: 42
Reply 9, posted (10 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 2992 times:
I too mourned the loss of Arrow 93 FM. They turned into that "Jack" format.
I have mixed feelings on them.
On one hand, I do like their well rounded and eclectic format which apparently means that I am not alone in my musical tastes or utter disdain for the last decades or so offering of "Top 40" material.
But on the flip side, their actual presentation is what really stinks: their self-promotion is really sloppy and obnoxious. They have a habit of coming out of commercial and starting a song. They let it play for about 30 seconds, then they play a dozen 10 second snippets from other songs all spliced together before actually playing a whole song. It's that whole "gotcha" format, and to me, is really annoying as hell.
I think that Jack really does have some untapped potential. But it's their attitude and presentation that needs to be cleaned up. Not their choice of material, of which I like about 75%, far higher than even the defunct Arrow was able to achieve.
Now speaking of annoying radio, it would be difficult to top the LA "News" station, KFWB AM 980.
I used to listen to them quite frequently. But that's another station that's gone down the tubes. First, their number of commercials is simply out of control. They need to either stop being so damn greedy, or start upping their rates. They average about 9 minutes of commercial for every 20 minutes of airtime. And it's all staggered out: they'll do a couple of commercials. Then one or two news story summaries. Then a couple more commercials. Then another story or two. Then commercials. And so on.
And as if that weren't bad enough, 80% of their commercials seem to be of the "Home Mortgage/Loans" variety.
Now to add insult to injury, KFWB is another station that seems to be suffering from an identity crisis: are they a news station? Or a sports station.
Either one by itself is OK. But they are trying to be both. And frankly, it stinks. Bad. Not only do you have to listen through commercial after commercial, but half the time, you don't even know if they're broadcasting news, or a Dodgers game.
And as if that STILLM weren't bad enough, someone needs to tell their traffic reports manager that there are a lot more freeways in LA than just the 101, the Santa Monica, and the Golden State.
Because those seem to prettu much be the only freeways they'll report on. There can be a sixteen car fatality on the 91 in Corona, causing a 6 hour backup all the way back to Long Beach, but they won't report it. Instead, they'll tell you that the 101 through North Hollywood is "wide open".
And that's even assuming they're reporting traffic. Like I said. Half the time, they aren't. They're broadcasting a Dodgers game.
Needless to say, KFWB has been 86'd from my radio dial.
Too much commercials. Too unreliable availability. And very limited coverage.
Psa53 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 3131 posts, RR: 4
Reply 10, posted (10 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 2978 times:
Quoting N1120A (Reply 6): Y(J)ACK-FM took over for Los Angeles area legend Arrow 93.1 (KCBS-FM) last year and has made me ill ever since.
I'm glad Arrow is gone.Arrow was like a top 40 format, "classic music"
station were they were very predictable and got very boring
to listen to. And at times they would condensed and edit music like
"Smoke On The Water" and Frampton's "Do you feel".
Way to much Queen and Elton John,as well.I like those artists and no
political statement here,but it was overkill play.
Captoveur From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (10 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 2947 times:
It is probably just a sign of the times. Corporate giants like ClearChannel are buying up every station on the planet, and messing with what was more or less working. If the same company owns every station in a market, they can't all be number 1, but it seems like they are always shooting for that goal. I hate when a station changes formats every 3 months, like some seem to. It takes me about 3 months to decide I like a station enough to load it into my presets. This is why I have sat radio, I am sick of the games on the broadcast stuff.
It seems without fail, no matter where I go in the country, I get the same syndicated talk bullshit, or the same music playlist. Variety is a good thing people. Not every market in the world needs to hear the same things. Some of us liked our local talent, before ClearChannel bought the station and fired them, or put them on some glorified walkie-talkie in someplace nobody cares about, like Anchorage.
Matt D From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 9502 posts, RR: 42
Reply 14, posted (10 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 2921 times:
I am proud to say that I have a reel to reel air check (off the air recording) of the Fleetwood Mac concert that Arrow broadcasted live, commercial free 7/17/2003. I caught the introduction with Uncle Joe announcing "Arrow 93 FM".
ASMD80 From United States of America, joined May 2005, 126 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (10 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 2905 times:
Jack is one of the many "crappy" radio stations in Seattle. Ugh, it makes me sick to have all these crappy radio stations!
-Jack tops my list of BAD stations!
-Clear channel is just another evil company just trying to be very strict to the FCC standards.
-I hate it how stations like Star 101.5 and Mix 92.5 are starting to put more crap that should be left to other stations!
-Now, stations like KISS 106.1 really make me sick. All they seem to play is a few (c)rap songs, Kelly Clarkson, and The Killers. How boring is that?
Quoting Captoveur (Reply 11): Variety is a good thing people. Not every market in the world needs to hear the same things. Some of us liked our local talent
And that's why I rarely,if at all listen to the radio!
Some things are actually better at 30,000+ feet...
Jetstar From United States of America, joined May 2003, 1737 posts, RR: 10
Reply 16, posted (10 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days ago) and read 2902 times:
In New York City, the oldies station WCBS-FM 101.1 while it ranked in the top ten stations in the New York City market, the average age of the listener was over 50 years old.
The owners say that with the new Jack format, they are targeting a much younger age group, which they feel that even with lower ratings, the ad revenues will be higher because ad rates are based on a lot of things including the average age of the listener. Younger people tend to spend more money than the older age group, so that is the market they are after.
JetBlueAtJFK From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 1687 posts, RR: 3
Reply 19, posted (10 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 2867 times:
The NYC Jack FM sucks. My mom listened to the CBSFM one, and that was the only one she listened to, and now this Jack FM, while it is on every Long Island Bus ad out there (literally) I don't like it. They say they play what they want. It doesn't sounds great from that. I hate stations that play oldies then a new hit and then a 3 year old song then then back to an oldie. Stupid