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User currently offlineAirways1 From United Kingdom, joined Jul 1999, 560 posts, RR: 0
Posted (13 years 1 month 1 week 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 1809 times:

Circumcision for religious reasons is nothing short of child abuse. The only reason it is accepted in society is political. It cannot be banned because there would be too much opposition against it from the religious groups that practise this abuse.

If a new 'religion' were to proclaim that they would cut their childs' ears off on the grounds of their beliefs, it would be outlawed straight away. Unfortunately this cannot be done for the established religions.

And don't any religious people come on here and retort that everyone has a right to their own views. I agree with that completely, and it is those people who are imposing their views and beliefs on their children by circumcising them.

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User currently offlineLufthansaUSA From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 188 posts, RR: 3
Reply 1, posted (13 years 1 month 1 week 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 1528 times:

Sorry, but your argument doesn't hold water. In order to hear clearly, you need ears. If I am not mistaken, circumcision does not affect the person at all, therefore you do not NEED the foreskin. I find it equivalent to removing the tonsils, they're there, but you dont need them. Stop screaming, your argument makes no sense.

User currently offlineAirways1 From United Kingdom, joined Jul 1999, 560 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (13 years 1 month 1 week 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 1516 times:

I meant only part of the external ear, like the ear lobe, which isn't essential for hearing.

And whether you believe the comparison is good or not, it doesn't change the principal. OK, let's take your example of tonsils - same thing applies.

Furthermore, circumcision can affect sensitivity so you are wrong to say that "circumcision does not affect the person at all".


User currently offlineAC320 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (13 years 1 month 1 week 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 1504 times:

Airways1,

There are documented health benefits of circumcision. In case you are not aware, most circumcisions performed today are done regardless of religious preference shortly after birth in the hospital.

And the ear lobe is essential for hearing. The "auricle" as I believe its anatomically referred to helps to channel sound into the audtory canal. If you did not have this, there would be a noticable drop in the quality of sound you can hear and from which directions those sounds can be recieved.

And the foreskin is not an essential part of the human body. so why make such a fuss? Did they take a little too much off the top?

sorry for the crudeness, just demonstrating how silly this whole thing is


User currently offlineAviatsiya From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (13 years 1 month 1 week 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 1499 times:

What about female circumcision? That is nothing more than barbaric.

About male circumcision, there is no proven health benefits at all; as long as hygiene is given priority...which it should anyway.

But then again, there is nothing more that I hate than to see a guy with a sleeping bag....ewwwwww.


User currently offlineJaspike From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2008, 1 posts, RR: 2
Reply 5, posted (13 years 1 month 1 week 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 1485 times:

What is the point of this topic?

It doesn't matter whether someone is circumcised or not. It makes no difference, apart from the appearance.


User currently offlineAC320 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (13 years 1 month 1 week 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 1485 times:

"there is no proven health benefits at all; as long as hygiene is given priority"

You really should read more on the subject. The health benefits of circumcision mostly include that fact that bacteria and other nasties cannot grow as they normally would under the foreskin. Unfortunately, many people do not observe proper hygienne and that's the key. You'd be surprised how common this concern can be.


User currently offlineAirways1 From United Kingdom, joined Jul 1999, 560 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (13 years 1 month 1 week 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 1473 times:

I am not against circumcision. It MAY have health benefits, but it should be up to the individual then if they want to be circumcised.

I am just against it being imposed on children before they are old enough to have a say.


User currently offlineRodney King From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (13 years 1 month 1 week 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 1479 times:

(VirginLover, Hawaiibelle and other minors need not reply.)


Would you have sexual intercourse with the uncircumcised?


User currently offlineBombstar From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (13 years 1 month 1 week 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 1427 times:

I agree circumision should not be allowed without the express written permission of the person that is being circumsised. And circumcision does affect sensititvity, uncircumsised people experience more pleasure during sex than circumsised people.

User currently offlineB757300 From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 4114 posts, RR: 22
Reply 10, posted (13 years 1 month 1 week 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 1423 times:




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User currently offlineLH423 From Canada, joined Jul 1999, 6501 posts, RR: 54
Reply 11, posted (13 years 1 month 1 week 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 1413 times:

Personally, I am glad I got chopped in infancy, because while people decry it as being against someone's will, it is also a lot less painful when done in infancy, and also, let's be honest, how many guys are going to be able to keep down an erection for the recommended healing time?  Smile I know I'd be splitting my stiches in 48 hours Big grin

Personally, I think it is up to the parents to decide, whatever their reasons may be.

LH423



« On ne voit bien qu'avec le cœur. L'essentiel est invisible pour les yeux » Antoine de Saint-Exupéry
User currently offlineDerek H From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (13 years 1 month 1 week 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 1409 times:

Our parents made all of our decisions when we were infantile. SO, why can't they make this one? I dont see the big deal.

User currently offlineAirlinelover From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 5580 posts, RR: 22
Reply 13, posted (13 years 1 month 1 week 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 1398 times:

This has me curious.. Females have them too????!?!?!?

Chris



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User currently offlineN400QX From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (13 years 1 month 1 week 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 1396 times:

Its perfectly fine (and GOOD) and is very important in religion. For example, Jewish babies are circumcized on the eighth day as a symbolic union with God (sorry if I'm a bit off, but thats how this Christian boy learned it). And I'm with LH423 on this one.... I'm glad it was done many many years ago.

User currently offlineYojo87 From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 78 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (13 years 1 month 1 week 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 1390 times:

I am with LufthansaUSA and Jaspike.

Tony


User currently offlineUs330 From United States of America, joined Aug 2000, 3871 posts, RR: 13
Reply 16, posted (13 years 1 month 1 week 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 1388 times:

N400QX you are right on. It is symbolic of the covenant between Moses and God.

User currently offlineWe're Nuts From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 5722 posts, RR: 19
Reply 17, posted (13 years 1 month 1 week 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 1376 times:

Am I the only here who is uncircumsized?? Why is it such a big deal, I'm glad I am the way God (if he exists) made me.

Scotty, that hurt! And I thought we had something.  Big grin



Dear moderators: No.
User currently offlineJared From United States of America, joined May 2001, 685 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (13 years 1 month 1 week 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 1364 times:

Circumcision is evil.

Also why has no one touched on the fact that sexual stuff is supposed to be BETTER if you are UNcircumsized because the foreskin has a lot lot lot of nerve endings.


User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39887 posts, RR: 74
Reply 19, posted (13 years 1 month 1 week 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 1367 times:

Stop circumcision now! !

I want my foreskin back!  Pissed



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User currently offlineCYKA From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (13 years 1 month 1 week 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 1351 times:

Your not alone, im no "baldie" either. As some have pointed out it should be left to indidual to decide. Cutting of a part of a persons body for some "up in the clouds" reason is unacepteble. And yes, uncircumsized people do have higher sensitivity since the skin which covers the nerve endings is much thinner, offering better transmition of the stimuli.

Also whats this "would you have sex with an uncircumsized person" crap? People have mated using their uncircumsized organs for hundred of thousands of years and now these same normal people are suppose have a smaller chance of copulating?

One more thing, infants feel the same pain that you would feel today if you were circumsized. Just because they dont remember it later(along with everything else) doesent mean they dont go through the agony.


User currently offlineWe're Nuts From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 5722 posts, RR: 19
Reply 21, posted (13 years 1 month 1 week 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 1349 times:

Whew, thank God.

You know nowadays they have this thing that will totally numb the area, I think it's called... NOVOCAIN! And what's better is that it is safe to use on adults. If you don't want it, chop it off.

And regarding the argument what a hat-less snake is cleaner, not true today! A well maintain uncircumcised head can be as clean or cleaner than its circumcised counterpart. There is no medical reason for circumcision, but there are reasons against it. Why risk screwing up your sex life that early?

Superfly, there are certain procedures now that can restore foreskin.



Dear moderators: No.
User currently offlineDeltaRNOmd-80 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (13 years 1 month 1 week 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 1339 times:

If I were a girl I wouldnt want all those germs and bacteria going into my hole. Uncircumcized is gross and girls will look at you wierd when you pull it out, so it actually decreases your sex life.

User currently offlineCYKA From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 23, posted (13 years 1 month 1 week 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 1332 times:

Like you dont already have all those germs and bacteria on your shlong, not to mention the infestation of microbes living both inside and outside of female genitals(including funguses....ie yeast infections). Thats a pretty weak and uneducated argument your presenting.

User currently offlineWe're Nuts From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 5722 posts, RR: 19
Reply 24, posted (13 years 1 month 1 week 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 1334 times:

I'd love to see you back that up, DeltaRNO! Or maybe you are just upset that we get better sex.


Dear moderators: No.
25 Aio86 : The jewish covonent thing was actually between Abraham and god, but close enough.
26 Jwenting : I am against pushing a religion on your kids. As circumcision is used for that in kids, I am against it. If it is done on purely medical grounds it be
27 Post contains links and images Klaus : As far as I know, one of the main reasons for the introduction of circumcision was to decrease sexual pleasure in order to suppress masturbation. I´v
28 Post contains images Airsicknessbag : I actually read in a science magazine that circumcized men have a better sex life - here´s why: because the uncovered penis is in constant contact w
29 Jared : Right, decrease sensitivity...a wonderful thing to do! I'm sure every girl out there would LOVE decreased sensitivity when it came to their "things" e
30 An-225 : We're Nuts - you're not the only one. And I hate religions in general, so I am against circumcision.
31 Kolobokman : Stop circumcision now! !
32 Pgh234 : Well, last year in my World Cutlures class we learned about the circumcision practices from around the world and religious reasons for them. Let me te
33 B777-200 : I am not religious at all. I don't believe in organized religion what so ever, so why do religious parents cut their male baby's penis foreskin off? I
34 Superfly : Pgh234: This is a horrible act practiced in some West-African tribes as well as in Southeast Asia. It is illegal in industrialized nations and will gr
35 AC320 : RealHigh, "A very wacky & twisted religion to be honest" Thank you for utterly bashing and insulting Judaism with your comment. I'm sure you just type
36 AC320 : I can't believe I'm having my religion insulted for the political actions of others. How dare you Archie Bunker! If I had a disrespected users list yo
37 Post contains images Superfly : I cannot speak for RealHigh and I certainly have nothing against the beliefs of Judaism however, any religion that mutilates there newborn males genit
38 Post contains images Archie Bunker : Huh? Read carefully...it's a skill. Please don't attack the messenger. Goodnight.
39 Post contains links and images Aviatsiya : Here are 2 links on female circumcision. It is a common practice, absolutely, in Africa mainly. http://www.religioustolerance.org/fem_cirm.htm http://
40 Trvlr : This is a hilarious topic, to be honest. I am not, er, scientifically versed on the subject, but I think if there is the possibility of health benefit
41 N400QX : I agree Aaron. Welcome back, btw!
42 Pgh234 : hmmm... Thank You Aviatsiya. Guess ya learn something new everyday and ya, for the females, it is quite barbaric. yuck. pgh234
43 Mx5_boy : This whole circumcision thing is a lot of hot air. I don't know the exact statistics but having had a few years experience with Australian men I have
44 SSTjumbo : Anyone who bashes someone personally for what they believe in should shut up. Religious people and Atheists, there are things called virtues!!! FOLLOW
45 Post contains images We're Nuts : Whew, you had me scared there for a mo', Scotty. Mxxx5_boy, never seen an uncut man? Wait 'til I come to Australia! I love this forum....
46 Post contains images Mx5_boy : Well Big Nuts, How can I refuse an offer like that? BTW - How do I put it delicately, I've never been with a un-cut man. I have seen pictures. This is
47 Greg : Uncut dicks get dirty and are nasty looking--all that skin drooping off your tool. I prefer mine without the giftwrapping!
48 Post contains images Ryanb741 : I'm uncut and proud of it. Hell, they probably couldn't find the cutters big enough for the job anyway!!!
49 Hairyass : Uncut is filthy! This practice suppresses sexual appetite and also we would be screwing around like animals! It's also easier for me to stay celebit t
50 Post contains images An-225 : It's ok, Hairyass, you use yours as a faucet anyway. 100% uncut, liberal and "filthy ' Alex.
51 Post contains images Ryanb741 : I think circumcision is kind of wierd. I mean, I would be turned off if a chick had her nipples sliced off, so what's the point of having your helmet
52 Post contains images Ryanb741 : Mind you, mine has been so well used recently that I fear the skin is wearing thin! Note to self, ensure I sober up following post-work drinks before
53 Airways1 : For all you people who are arguing about whether it's better to have you organ chopped or not, that's not the point. If your parents have it done to y
54 Post contains images Superfly : Greg: >Uncut dicks get dirty and are nasty looking--all that skin drooping off your tool. I assume you like men with a clean polished head? You left y
55 We're Nuts : The head of a well-maintained penis, cut or uncut, is cleaner than your mouth. Think about that for a while.
56 Post contains images SFOintern : What if your parents chose for you when you were born to NOT be circumcised. Would you be angry that you weren't? I know I'm not.
57 Post contains images LH423 : Hmm, I've been with something that Mx5_boy hasn't?! hmmm, the surprises never cease I dated someone who was uncut, and while I enjoyed some aspects of
58 Us330 : I am flat out tired of your consistent Judaism bashing posts. Look, I understand you having hate towards the Israeli government for killing your fathe
59 Post contains images We're Nuts : maybe about your knowledge and/or preference? If Scotty and Michael can convince me to be gay, I'm all theirs! Until then, we're just playing around.
60 Post contains images Digitalone : Quotes Mx5_boy "BTW - How do I put it delicately, I've never been with a un-cut man. I have seen pictures." end quote So u wanna be with one ? I'll be
61 SSTjumbo : Put an essay into summary, circumcisions are done because the opposite can become infected and what not.
62 CYKA : Infected with what?
63 Arch89U : CYKA-some pretty nasty stuff. Then you need it circumcised. And that probably hurts. Arch89U
64 FlyboyOz : Well...I'm not bias. The question is.. Which circumcision or uncircumision is the most beautiful dick that attracts to the women or men? Thanks
65 We're Nuts : Humans would not have evolved with foreskin if it were dangerous.
66 Post contains images Mx5_boy : Digitalone, mx5*boy - ******blushes****** mb
67 Post contains images We're Nuts : Back off, bitch! He's mine!! You wanna piece of me?
68 CYKA : I never like to resort to name calling, but in this case I have too. You two are complete idots. You dont have the slightest idea what you are talking
69 RealHigh : I can't believe it is 2001 A.D. and we are still mutilating our newborns like this. Don't you know that there are cases of gender re-assignment when a
70 Us330 : A Jewish circumcision, or bris, does not even occur at the hospital. It is performed in front of a large crowd, typically at a synagogue or the home o
71 V Jet : I think RealHigh means there have been gender re-assignments performed after botched circumcisions.
72 Blink182 : I am with LH423,N400QX, and US330. rgds, blink182
73 Post contains images Mx5_boy : C'mon guys, Can't we share? Cheers, mb
74 Post contains images We're Nuts : I guess, but don't forget who was flirting with you before Digitalone was even a member!
75 Post contains images Digitalone : Quote" I guess, but don't forget who was flirting with you before Digitalone was even a member!" end quote hmmm, i assume this person was u? anyways,
76 Post contains images Ryanb741 : Hey look guys, if you want to talk dirty to each other there are more appropriate forums you know!
77 L-188 : I thought the world had allready been circumcised many years ago by Magellen with a 100 foot clipper.
78 Post contains images Klaus :
79 Polaris : Every part of the body is there for a reason...tonsils, appendix, foreskin, wisdom teeth...humans are still learning the function of each body part. T
80 Post contains images We're Nuts : Oh grow up. You guys are just jealous because you know you could never have Mx5_boy.
81 Polaris : A related question for our British friends: Roundhead and Cavalier...which is which?
82 Post contains images Mx5_boy : I don't think I have ever heard a pickup line like that before... ****blushes again**** Why doesn't someone start the thread : "What aircraft would yo
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