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I'm Not Sure If I Do "Support The Troops"  
User currently offlineMD-90 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 8508 posts, RR: 12
Posted (9 years 1 month 3 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 3580 times:

A few thoughts, from a libertarian perspective:

1. The voting majority of the American public is pro-intervention with regards to the rest of the world. I am not. Most Americans think that both WWI and WWII were justified, and that the Vietnam War, while a loss, was at least a noble effort. I do not. However, the pool of people from which the military draws it's soldiers do believe in these things. I doubt there are few libertarians in the military, and if they are, they're probably either in the Border Patrol or the Coast Guard.

Is it entirely correct to say that the military's administration is bad, tending towards totalitarianism, while the individual troops are all noble heroes who do no (or at least, not much) wrong? I think not.

2. Today's American military is an all-volunteer force. There is no excuse of the draft, anymore.

3. Despite the political newspeak that we have a Department of D-E-F-E-N-S-E, instead of the past, yet more accurate title, Department of War, the American military is not used for it's proper defensive role, as explicitly spelled out in the Constitution. It should be obvious to everyone that America requires no more than the state militias to protect the country. We have NEVER been under serious threat of invasion since 1812, when the British were ably repelled, both by the army and the militias. Men and women who join the military are the world's biggest fools if they do not understand and accept that they will be used by politicians to fight offensive wars and actions against other nations. They have nothing to hide behind: the standing military exists to serve the whims of the politicians, typically in horribly unjust ways.

4. Soldiers know what they're signing up for: to kill and be killed for the state. Thus, very few libertarians sign up for the military. Soldiers are taught to kill other human beings, all in the name and at the instigation of the number one entity in their world, the state. That's not to say that I don't feel sympathy for soldiers who don't want to be in Iraq, who correctly recognize that our continuing presence as imperialisitic aggressors there creates more problems than it solves, and yet don't want to be stigmatized for standing up for their beliefs. I have the utmost respect for men like Kevin Benderman, who will be serving time in prison for not disobeying his conscience.

5. The military is not a public works project. Many people join to get nice $20,000 signing bonuses, or hold out for the GI Bill to pay for their college educations, or join for other fiscal reasons (maybe they couldn't get into a decent university). There's nothing wrong with that, but why does that automatically make you a hero for serving your own fiscal interest? There is a difference between what the Tennessee Valley Authority does and what the US Army does.

6. Is war just one big, insane disaster, thus excusing individual troops? They say that psychopaths are the ones least likely to be mentally damaged from war. Personally, I find that unsurprising. The soldiers will have to live with themselves, and answer to their Creator when they do, as to what people they killed, maimed, or injured. Bush may've ordered this horrible war, but individual troops are the ones who make it possible.

7. My personal opinion is this: I do not consider every man or woman that has ever served the state as a policeman, firefighter, or soldier, to automatically be a hero. That is a gross misuse by politicians and nationalistic Americans of a noble word. It seems to me that most soldiers are giving their tacit consent by continuing to prosecute the war for the politicians. Undoubtedly, there are many soldiers who like war, who like the rush that you get from combat, from killing people in a kill-or-be-killed situation.

Honestly, I do not support the troops, or the modern American military, because it is an imperial military that serves the American Empire. I resolutely reject American Imperialism, and pine for the country that our founding fathers actually founded. I despise the perverted notion that America should rule the world, that we're infallible, that whatever war we fight in is just, or whoever our policies kill deserves it. I am friends with soldiers (some of my fraternity brothers are in the military), and have a long line of military men and women in my family, dating back to the Revolutionary War and the War Between the States (on my mother's side, the North Carolina/Mississippi side), the only two just wars that America has ever fought.

I hail Kevin Benderman as a hero, for standing up against immense pressure for what he believes in. I hail Cindy Sheehan, a true heroine, for demanding answers to the lies that Bush has betrayed the American public with.

And I lament the sad state of American morals, brought about by collectivist state education, television, and overgrown, meddling government.



Inspired by http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig6/snider1.html

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User currently offlineTedTAce From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (9 years 1 month 3 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 3566 times:

Will it EVER fucking END with you MD-90???
Why can't you diferentiate our troops from the turd burglars in Washington??
I abhor this administration as much as you do, but I don't make myself look like an ASS over and over and over again stating my views. Get off the crockwell site, your are dropping whatever IQ points you MIGHT have had.


User currently offlineSkySurfer From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2004, 1136 posts, RR: 12
Reply 2, posted (9 years 1 month 3 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 3555 times:

I'm english living in Canada...don't get me started about oil, the need for war and a good presidency etc etc.......it's happening, american soldiers are dying left right and centre and if that's what the president wants (or doesn't want) then he's getting it. We can't do a bloody thing to stop it, america voted BUSH back in for another term and you have to live with it. How long till the draft is reinstated??
good luck, god bless........you'll need it

Cheers



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User currently offline11Bravo From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 1720 posts, RR: 10
Reply 3, posted (9 years 1 month 3 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 3544 times:

Quoting TedTAce (Reply 1):

Shouldn't Turd Burglars be capitalized? LOL  Big grin



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User currently offlineTedTAce From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (9 years 1 month 3 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 3536 times:

Quoting 11Bravo (Reply 3):

Shouldn't Turd Burglars be capitalized? LOL Big grin

From a literary point of view, I'm sure your right... from a LITERAL point of view I'd like to see these morons face Capitol Punnishment.


User currently offlineANCFlyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (9 years 1 month 3 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 3524 times:

Quoting MD-90 (Thread starter):
A few thoughts, from a libertarian perspective

Noooooooo . . . a few thoughts from MD-90s perspective . . .

Quoting MD-90 (Thread starter):
Most Americans think that both WWI and WWII were justified, and that the Vietnam War, while a loss, was at least a noble effort. I do not.

Surprise, surprise, surprise . . . .   

Quoting MD-90 (Thread starter):
2. Today's American military is an all-volunteer force. There is no excuse of the draft, anymore.

You've made no point here . . . just a statment. What the frickin' point?

Quoting MD-90 (Thread starter):
We have NEVER been under serious threat of invasion since 1812, when the British were ably repelled, both by the army and the militias.

Bwaaa Haaa Haaa . . . let me see here . . . Attu, Kiska, Alaska 1942. Midway 1942. Hawaii and the West Coast 1941-1943.

Quoting MD-90 (Thread starter):
Soldiers know what they're signing up for: to kill and be killed for the state.

. . . to kill or be killed in defense of this country, it's ideals and it's people. Which, unfortunately, includes you. . . .

Quoting MD-90 (Thread starter):
utmost respect for men like Kevin Benderman

I notice you no longer call this cowardly deserter SERGEANT Benderman. Prisoners have no rank. He's a deserter. He's a coward. Period.

Quoting MD-90 (Thread starter):
Many people join to get nice $20,000 signing bonuses, or hold out for the GI Bill to pay for their college educations, or join for other fiscal reasons (maybe they couldn't get into a decent university).

Just as many join out of tradition, out of patriotism, because it's what they want to do. I'm a perfect example . . . I did because I always knew I would . . . always wanted to be a soldier . . . had no other aspirations . . . had to grades for college, got my degrees, but served the country every minute of that time.

Quoting MD-90 (Thread starter):
They say that psychopaths are the ones least likely to be mentally damaged from war. Personally, I find that unsurprising.

I guess that makes me one physcopathis SOB then.

Quoting MD-90 (Thread starter):
I do not consider every man or woman that has ever served the state as a policeman, firefighter, or soldier, to automatically be a hero.

Neither do I. But nonetheless, they deserve collectively to have our support.

Quoting MD-90 (Thread starter):
Undoubtedly, there are many soldiers who like war, who like the rush that you get from combat, from killing people in a kill-or-be-killed situation.

Please, point out that person to me. After twenty-four years in the Army and a few incoming rounds in South America, and Iraq, I have yet to find one soldier that LIKES war! One that revels in the death of his comrades or the enemy.

Quoting MD-90 (Thread starter):
Honestly, I do not support the troops, or the modern American military, because it is an imperial military that serves the American Empire.

And I expected nothing less from you or that complete fucktard Lew Fuckwell. He's brainwashed you to the likes I can't even imagine. Please, lets see if you have the balls to actually say this anywhere near an American GI . . . male or female . . . let me see you walk up to the recruiter in your town and tell him/her waht you just posted. When you are finally able to focus again, I'd suggest you crawl back under whatever frickin' rock you and Lew Fuckwell hatched from and stay there. . . . take PacificJourney with you.

Quoting MD-90 (Thread starter):
I am friends with soldiers (some of my fraternity brothers are in the military),

Bet you haven't sent this to them . . .

Quoting MD-90 (Thread starter):
have a long line of military men and women in my family, dating back to the Revolutionary War and the War Between the States (on my mother's side, the North Carolina/Mississippi side),

And you haven't been disowned yet? Especially in that part of the country? You must not have mentioned this to your family either . . . spineless.

Quoting MD-90 (Thread starter):
Revolutionary War and the War Between the States (on my mother's side, the North Carolina/Mississippi side), the only two just wars that America has ever fought.

    

Quoting MD-90 (Thread starter):
I hail Kevin Benderman as a hero

Deserter, Coward, PRISONER!!! Loser.

Quoting MD-90 (Thread starter):
And I lament the sad state of American morals, brought about by collectivist state education, television, and overgrown, meddling government.

You may clear outbound customs when you're ready. . . no one is holding you here . . . adios

Edit: Let me add Hypocrite to this . . . aren't you currently going to a STATE University/College in Mississippi???? Just wondering . . . does that fall under your Collectivist State Education umbrella? Doesn't that make you a hypocrite????  yes 

[Edited 2005-08-27 05:26:25]

User currently offlineTedTAce From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (9 years 1 month 3 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 3519 times:

Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 5):

You may clear outbound customs when you're ready. . . no one is holding you here . . . adios

Best point I think you have EVER made!! Just wondering why you wasted all that time to get to this? I know you know I know you know better  Wink


User currently offlineDL021 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 11447 posts, RR: 75
Reply 7, posted (9 years 1 month 3 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 3500 times:

Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 5):
Quoting MD-90 (Thread starter):
A few thoughts, from a libertarian perspective

Noooooooo . . . a few thoughts from MD-90s perspective . . .

You have no perspective of your own. Try learning from something other than Lew Rockwell......You want a Libertarian point of view try Boortz...

Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 5):
Quoting MD-90 (Thread starter):
I hail Kevin Benderman as a hero

Deserter, Coward, PRISONER!!! Loser.

Benderman is a punk deserter with zero honor, and less self-respect.



Is my Pan Am ticket to the moon still good?
User currently offlineFalcon84 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (9 years 1 month 3 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 3486 times:

Quoting MD-90 (Thread starter):
Most Americans think that both WWI and WWII were justified

What was unjustified about the US's involvement in WWI or II? Both times, we were attacked. When attacked, you defend. What is the problem you have with that?

Quoting MD-90 (Thread starter):
3. Despite the political newspeak that we have a Department of D-E-F-E-N-S-E, instead of the past, yet more accurate title, Department of War

That's because, after WWII, the Military was reorganized. At the time, you had the Secretary of War and the Secretary of the Navy; The Army included the Army Air Corps. After the war, the entire structure was brought under the Department of Defense, and the Air Corps was made it's own branch.

There's nothing wrong, nor hypocritical with the DOD being called the DOD, dude. Nothing at all. It was, basically, house-cleaning after a war, to make the military more effective.

Quoting MD-90 (Thread starter):
There's nothing wrong with that, but why does that automatically make you a hero for serving your own fiscal interest?

Usually, it doesn't serve your fiscal interest, as jobs in the private sector far outpay those in the military.

Quoting MD-90 (Thread starter):
7. My personal opinion is this: I do not consider every man or woman that has ever served the state as a policeman, firefighter, or soldier, to automatically be a hero.

Agree, but most serve with honor, and for that, we should honor their service to the country.

Quoting MD-90 (Thread starter):
Honestly, I do not support the troops, or the modern American military, because it is an imperial military that serves the American Empire.

American Empire? Since when? Look at our history-we are not an imperialistic nation, MD-90. We don't annex other nations after the fighting stops; we've won wars that involved Cuba; The Philippines; Germany; Japan. And defeated either that nation or a nation that controlled those places, and never once have we tried to make them a part of the U.S. We've let them find their own destiny, not have us dictate to them, in the tradtion of the old British Empire; the French Empire; the USSR, Nazi Germany, etc. Those were imperialistic nations, at the height of their power. We have never been.

Quoting TedTAce (Reply 1):
Will it EVER fucking END with you MD-90???

Apparently not. Remember when this guy was conservative? What happened to this person?

Again, unlike some people, I do not have a problem saying I do support our troops, but not the political decision to send them to war. I'm certainly not going to root against my own countrymen who are fighting overseas, that's for sure, even when decrying the president's decision to send them there.


User currently offlineJetjack74 From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 7414 posts, RR: 50
Reply 9, posted (9 years 1 month 3 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 3476 times:
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MD-90, it's very obvious that you don't support the troops

Quoting MD-90 (Thread starter):
1. The voting majority of the American public is pro-intervention with regards to the rest of the world. I am not. Most Americans think that both WWI and WWII were justified, and that the Vietnam War, while a loss, was at least a noble effort. I do not. However, the pool of people from which the military draws it's soldiers do believe in these things. I doubt there are few libertarians in the military, and if they are, they're probably either in the Border Patrol or the Coast Guard.

MD-90, this has to be the most outrageous ever written here. Drawing comparisans between government agencies. You miss the point of defense entirely.

Quoting MD-90 (Thread starter):
2. Today's American military is an all-volunteer force. There is no excuse of the draft, anymore.

Yes waiter, i'd like to order "A point" please, with a side of "intellegence".

Quoting MD-90 (Thread starter):
3. Despite the political newspeak that we have a Department of D-E-F-E-N-S-E, instead of the past, yet more accurate title, Department of War.

It used to be called the War Department before the 1950's.

Quoting MD-90 (Thread starter):
, the American military is not used for it's proper defensive role, as explicitly spelled out in the Constitution. It should be obvious to everyone that America requires no more than the state militias to protect the country. We have NEVER been under serious threat of invasion since 1812, when the British were ably repelled, both by the army and the militias. Men and women who join the military are the world's biggest fools if they do not understand and accept that they will be used by politicians to fight offensive wars and actions against other nations. They have nothing to hide behind: the standing military exists to serve the whims of the politicians, typically in horribly unjust ways.

MD-90, you don't have the slightest clue why people join the US military. There is no intellegent, deeply rooted answer to why people join the military, they just do, and thank god they do, because you wouldn't have place to go to write such crap like this

Quoting MD-90 (Thread starter):
I have the utmost respect for men like Kevin Benderman, who will be serving time in prison for not disobeying his conscience.

What Kevin doesn't understand, is that no one qualifies for CO status when there is no draft. That's the most important piece missing in his cowardly excuse.

Quoting MD-90 (Thread starter):
7. My personal opinion is this: I do not consider every man or woman that has ever served the state as a policeman, firefighter, or soldier, to automatically be a hero. That is a gross misuse by politicians and nationalistic Americans of a noble word. It seems to me that most soldiers are giving their tacit consent by continuing to prosecute the war for the politicians. Undoubtedly, there are many soldiers who like war, who like the rush that you get from combat, from killing people in a kill-or-be-killed situation.

Not every is. Heroism is earned by risking your life in the defense of others. But in anycase, they're definately more heroic than you'll ever be. Your entire post is just a pathetic manifesto to make yourself feel better. It's these so-called inadvertant hero's sacrifices that give you the chance to spew this pig's garbage.

Quoting MD-90 (Thread starter):
I hail Kevin Benderman as a hero, for standing up against immense pressure for what he believes in. I hail Cindy Sheehan, a true heroine, for demanding answers to the lies that Bush has betrayed the American public with.

Hailing these 2 clowns only cements your disdain for people who work for the government.

[Edited 2005-08-27 05:51:52]


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User currently offlineHalls120 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (9 years 1 month 3 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 3452 times:

Quoting MD-90 (Thread starter):
I doubt there are few libertarians in the military, and if they are, they're probably either in the Border Patrol or the Coast Guard.

Two mistakes already, and you're not even out of the first paragraph. First of all, the Border Patrol is not now, nor has it ever been, part of the US Armed Forces. You make that kind of error, how are we supposed to take seriously anything else you say? Second of all, there are lots of libertarians in the military. I know, because I spent 20 years on active duty, and served with many colleagues who were open libertarians.

Quoting MD-90 (Thread starter):
Is it entirely correct to say that the military's administration is bad, tending towards totalitarianism, while the individual troops are all noble heroes who do no (or at least, not much) wrong?

The military isn't administered, it is led. So if you are going to criticize the leadership for being totalitarian, get your terminology correct. Next, leadership isn't found at the top. It is found at every level, from the Chief of the Joint Chiefs of Staff to the junior enlisted person who is a squad leader on the front line.

Quoting MD-90 (Thread starter):
It should be obvious to everyone that America requires no more than the state militias to protect the country. We have NEVER been under serious threat of invasion since 1812, when the British were ably repelled, both by the army and the militias.

I guess the attacks on Pearl Harbor and the Aleutians - and subsequent occupation of Kiska Island never took place, right?

Quoting MD-90 (Thread starter):
That's not to say that I don't feel sympathy for soldiers who don't want to be in Iraq, who correctly recognize that our continuing presence as imperialisitic aggressors there creates more problems than it solves, and yet don't want to be stigmatized for standing up for their beliefs. I have the utmost respect for men like Kevin Benderman, who will be serving time in prison for not disobeying his conscience.

You are free to respect anyone you want, but since no one has been forced to enlist since the mid-1970's, anyone who volunteers and later decides that they are having a crisis of conscience is free to sit in prison for a long time, in my view. I have no sympathy for a person who signs up for a duty that he or she knows might involve the taking of human life, takes a paycheck for months or years, and suddenly decides he/can't do what they took an oath to do. You can admire someone like this, but they disgust me, for they have no integrity whatsoever.

Quoting MD-90 (Thread starter):
It seems to me that most soldiers are giving their tacit consent by continuing to prosecute the war for the politicians.

Again you demonstrate just how little understanding you have of our men and women in uniform.

Lucky for you that you live here, where you are free to hold the misguided opinions that hold - protected by the Constitution that countless soldiers, sailors, marines and airmen have died to protect.

Have a nice day!


User currently offlineANCFlyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (9 years 1 month 3 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 3437 times:

Quoting TPASXM787 (Reply 10):
A few thoughts, from MD-90, brought to you by:

idon'tknowmyassfromaholeintheground.com

Brilliant . . .

Quoting Halls120 (Reply 11):
Have a nice day!

Damn Counselor, you're so much nicer than I . . . . I never managed to master that Tact thing . . . .  crazy 


User currently offlineJetjack74 From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 7414 posts, RR: 50
Reply 12, posted (9 years 1 month 3 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 3427 times:
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Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 12):
Damn Counselor, you're so much nicer than I . . . . I never managed to master that Tact thing . . . .

Well considering he's an attorney, MD-90 could be a future client.



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User currently offlineSenorcarnival From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (9 years 1 month 3 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 3426 times:

MD-90, any credibility your posts may have go right down the drain as soon as you mention your fellation of Lew Crackwell.

User currently offlineMD-90 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 8508 posts, RR: 12
Reply 14, posted (9 years 1 month 3 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 3419 times:

Quoting Falcon84 (Reply 8):

What was unjustified about the US's involvement in WWI or II? Both times, we were attacked.

Attacked? We were only attacked by Japan after deliberately trying to cut off their oil supply, and FDR chose not to warn the Navy about the signs of an impending attack, to make it seem more atrocious. Ditto for the shipping that was sunk and used as an excuse to enter WWI, a European war fought for European power that we had no business being in.

Quoting Falcon84 (Reply 8):
Agree, but most serve with honor, and for that, we should honor their service to the country.

Except that most of them don't wind up doing anything that serves the interests of the country, rather, it serves the interests of the politicians in D.C. Now, if you feel that we should honor their service to the federal government, that's another thing.

Quoting Falcon84 (Reply 8):
Look at our history-we are not an imperialistic nation, MD-90.

Yeah, only if ignore everything since Lincoln's imperalistic war on the South. Cuba, the Philippines, Korea, Vietnam, Iraqs I and II, a whole slew of South American countries, etc. We're an empire just like the British Empire was or the former Spanish, French, or Dutch empires. Like it or not, it's the truth.


By the way, when I mentioned the Border Patrol, I wasn't just thinking about a group that the Pentagon actually controls.

But it's normal to see that the government-loving statists haven't changed...


User currently offlineIlikeyyc From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 1373 posts, RR: 20
Reply 15, posted (9 years 1 month 3 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 3416 times:

MD-90, How is it that you have a respect rating greater than zero? I guess you are further proof that the RR means nothing.


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User currently offlineANCFlyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (9 years 1 month 3 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 3414 times:

No response to my post MD90 - what's the problem? No gut for debate on this topic?

I want to know . . . have you told your supposed military friends how you feel?

I want to know . . . have you told your friends and familily? Your supposed military family? Did I miss something earlier, are you not from Madison County Alabama . . . home to Redstone Arsenal and a host of hundreds, possibly, thousands of retirees?

I want to know . . . do you have the gut to present these arguments in person to someone with a combat patch on their right shoulder?

[Edited 2005-08-27 06:37:45]

User currently offlineHalls120 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (9 years 1 month 3 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 3399 times:

Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 12):
Quoting Halls120 (Reply 11):
Have a nice day!

Damn Counselor, you're so much nicer than I . . . . I never managed to master that Tact

I just can't understand how stupid he could be to lump the border patrol in with the armed forces.

Quoting Jetjack74 (Reply 13):
Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 12):
Damn Counselor, you're so much nicer than I . . . . I never managed to master that Tact thing . . . .

Well considering he's an attorney, MD-90 could be a future client.

Not that I'm a defense counsel any longer (thank goodness), but defending MD-90 might not be all that difficult. I see temporary insanity or diminished capacity as viable options.... Wink


User currently offlineMD-90 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 8508 posts, RR: 12
Reply 18, posted (9 years 1 month 3 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 3396 times:

Limestone County, actually. And yes, there are a lot of Army people in Huntsville, as I'm sure you well know.

And, unless I feel like it, I only debate with people who know how to be polite,

I'm not surprised to read the vile and foul reactions from people who don't seem to make the connection that a country is more than it's government and its agents!



I don't mean to be disrespectful to anyone (my relatives have been involved in this country's wars since they first got here in 1760), but I don't accept the trite ideas that every soldier is a hero merely for serving the state, that if you don't "support the troops," you're automatically a social outcast (how DARE you go against our dogma?), or that we should consider ourselves blessed that we have an enormously expensive military that doesn't protect this nation, but instead makes us less secure by invading foreign countries and antagonizing people that we have no right to mess with.


User currently offlineCOEWR777 From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 428 posts, RR: 1
Reply 19, posted (9 years 1 month 3 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 3390 times:

I did not read your in put but this is going by the title of the thread

No one really cares if you support them or not they dont have much of a choice of being there or home

Just remember while my two uncles are fighting a war they do not want to be part of you are on your ass browsing the forums


User currently offlineNWA742 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (9 years 1 month 3 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 3385 times:

Quoting MD-90 (Reply 19):
I don't mean to be disrespectful to anyone



As for this thread and MD-90's POV, it's just the same old shit, therefore:



(sorry ANC, but this thread needed it from the very beginning  Smile)




-NWA742


User currently offlineANCFlyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (9 years 1 month 3 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 3370 times:

Quoting MD-90 (Reply 19):
Limestone County, actually. And yes, there are a lot of Army people in Huntsville, as I'm sure you well know.And, unless I feel like it, I only debate with people who know how to be polite,

Oh, I definitely know.

Oh, sorry, missed it by one county west . . . then comes Lauderdale County. I know the area, very, very well.

OK, so go spout this horseshit in Limestone County, Lauderdale County, Madison County . . . or for that matter, Jeff County, Walker County, Tuscaloosa County, Cullman County, Fayette County . . . should I keep going. I know the end result. Internet tough guy that's your new handle. . . cause you KNOW the results of spewing this shit around those parts. And so do I . . .

Stop by my Aunt's place in Florence, mention this - when her right cross meets your jaw, don't be a bit surprised.

And please go see an old and dear friend in Lester, Al . . . if you get out of Tom's driveway without an ass full of Buckshot I'll be surprised.

My Mom is available in Berry, but perhaps that's not a good call . . . as most of the rest of my family is in that general grid square . . . . and they don't take kindly to people with your thought process . . .

I do have an Uncle on B'Ham however, who is open to discussion . . . for about 3.5 seconds.

Cousin Calvin in Cullman would probably buy you a beer or three . . . but as soon as you opened your mouth, you'd be in trouble.

Go stand in front of Redstone with a picket sign, when some hillbilly in his Chevy "accidentally" misses the exit onto I-565 and you become a grease spot, don't say I didn't warn you . . .

On second thought, you'd better stay in Mississippi . . . . .

Like I said, no intestinal fortitude. . . .


User currently offlineMD-90 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 8508 posts, RR: 12
Reply 22, posted (9 years 1 month 3 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 3359 times:

Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 22):
. . . and they don't take kindly to people with your thought process . . .

No, generally around there they've drunk the statist kool-aid all their lives and they (nor you, apparently) cannot imagine anything different.


I've thought about it a bit, and I suppose you could separate respect and support. I genuinely do respect most all of the military for the difficult things they do, but that doesn't necessarily I support the military itself, given what it's effectual mission has been these last few decades or 15.

The US Armed Forces do not exist to defend the USA. They exist to project power to other countries, as befits the imperial military.


User currently offlineJalto27R From United States of America, joined May 2004, 857 posts, RR: 14
Reply 23, posted (9 years 1 month 3 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 3359 times:

MD-90, why don't you move? Hell, I'll pack your bags!

User currently offlineNWA742 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (9 years 1 month 3 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 3349 times:

Quoting Jalto27R (Reply 24):
MD-90, why don't you move? Hell, I'll pack your bags!

I'd sure as hell be happy to help.




-NWA742


25 ANCFlyer : Well, you almost redeemed yourself . . . Back-peddling like a Duck coming into Decoys . . . . "whhhoaaaa, shit . . . . incommmmminnnnnggg!!!" Perhaps
26 STLGph : Ted....you summed it up nicely in your response (reply #1), well, as nice as you can and in your own style, of course. I agree with your position and
27 NWA742 : So none of them can really think for themselves then? You are truely incredible, I mean, you really think you know it all, don't you? As I noted befo
28 We're Nuts : I like you MD-90, but this might best have been one of those "inner voice" moments.
29 PanAm330 : The first thing thing that popped into my head when I saw this thread title in the forum was Robin Williams. He said, "The magnet says 'I support the
30 Post contains images ANCFlyer : I concur, my intent was to simply show an example of a lack of intestinal fortitude on MD-90s part, nothing more. The fact that a he (and some other
31 JeepBoy : Noble hero's? Abu graib.. And all that shit proved that wrong. The american army is built on those who have no other choice of doing anything remotel
32 Post contains images ANCFlyer : Who are you, PacificJourney's cousin, brother? I can't stop laughing at your post long enough to post my . And, JeepBoy, what say you of your Austral
33 STLGph : I know what you mean. You know where I stand and I know where you stand on most things, but I am sure we both know each other that we could sit down
34 Post contains images NWA742 : Just when I thought the immense ignorance and stupidity produced by the author of this thread could be no greater, along comes reply 32, which has pro
35 FlyingTexan : Yea, my cousin is too much of a riff-raff he had to go and join the U.S. Navy. They had him landing planes on boats (I’m told that’s not the easi
36 We're Nuts : That's not the Army.
37 Post contains images ANCFlyer : I'll by the first round, and likely the second. How the hell does one get to STL from ANC these days???? We used to get a beautiful red and white TW
38 Springbok747 : MD-90...dude, why are you still enjoying all the freedom in the USA? I suggest you pack your bags and move to a more nicer place like North Korea or S
39 FlyingTexan : >>>That's not the Army. I know that, Mr. Nuts. I take Jeep’s comments to include the entire U.S. Armed Forces – seeing his leisurely, informal wa
40 NWA742 : Correct, the Navy is not the Army. But look at Jeepy's sentence again: It's a justified guess that he's referring to the entire US Military itself. "
41 SFOMEX : Let me share what I know about the current "military men and women". My cousin was born here, in California. His parents are from Mexico and they hav
42 NWA742 : Oh yes, good ol Pacificjourney, can't forget him. Unfortunately there are many others. If they start in on this thread, things will get beyond ridicu
43 We're Nuts : Thank God. We're Nuts, Nutsy, or Adam. I'd bet the demographics are different between the Army and the Navy - worth pointing out. Think, then you'll
44 Post contains images ANCFlyer : "Just a Walk in the Park, Kazanski"
45 Post contains images Springbok747 : NWA...I did not quote ANCFlyer...guess you used the quote function incorrectly JeepBoy...mate, seriously are you high or something? I totally take off
46 Post contains images NWA742 : No option for nutless, nutboy, nonuts, or just nut? Come on, don't spoil the fun. It's past 2am here, I don't feel like thinking. Can't sleep either.
47 MD-90 : Because I love the country that's why. Especially the South. But I can't stand the federal government and it's reckless disregard for the Constitutio
48 We're Nuts : I never take myself seriously, but I've also been here a really long time, so next time you want to be clever by making a joke about my name, ask you
49 ANCFlyer : And therefore you "disrespect" the military in a such a vehement manner? I'm lost for words here. That's rather like getting into an accident at an i
50 NWA742 : If you don't take yourself seriously, there's no reason why you'd take those jokes seriously. I wasn't trying to be clever, and I've been here just a
51 We're Nuts : I'm pleased to hear you were only joking. I don't have anything against you. I don't take anything I read here seriously. Quoting me as "Nutless"? Co
52 MD-90 : What about you? You don't even know what the website is. It has over 150 columnists who write about everything, not just politics. It's one of the mo
53 NWA742 : That's a good thing. Haha, I'm glad you caught that one. The quoting system on this website is screwed up anyway. For instance, in this post, I'm app
54 Post contains images ANCFlyer : Every single time you reference something from there I read it . . . why is that??? Well, it's a simple process really . . . it's called being inform
55 We're Nuts : I left after Johan announced he would make the Non-Av forum cost money. Obviously the idea never came to fruition, and after WN's announcement to mov
56 Dl757md : Would you care to explain the reasons why you do not think America's participation in those wars was not justified? Have you ever thought of how the
57 DL021 : Fuck you. What you know about the US Serviceman/woman I could piss in a thimble. Your generalization serves only your point of view, and has no backi
58 Aa777flyer : I support our troops, NOT our President.
59 Post contains images Falcon84 : Tact? I didn't even know it was a word. Go back further, MD-90. We cut off their oil because of their war against Southeast Asia, most notably China,
60 NWA742 : Falcon, excellent post, very nicely done, especially with responses to Jeepy. DL021, you summed it up nicely as well, and I'll second you: fuck that i
61 Usnseallt82 : I joined the military because I wanted to. Simple as that. And I am one of the most open-minded people that you'll ever see. But this stops me dead in
62 Falcon84 : I think MD-90 is way, way out there on this (and most) issues. In the course of time, most nations find that there is a moment that they MUST fight. I
63 Post contains links MD-90 : I will refer you to Murray Rothbard's talk on Just War. http://www.lewrockwell.com/rothbard/rothbard20.html Personally, I don't have anything against
64 MD-90 : I would agree. I'm not a Republicrat or a Demopublican. I don't adhere to the big-government plus lets kill some furriners right wing or the big-gove
65 Post contains links DL021 : " target=_blank>http://www.lewrockwell.com/rothbard/....html You just don't get it, do you? Find another source of information or you simply become a
66 Falcon84 : Antagonizing is one thing: being imperialistic is another. They are not the same, MD-90. The South fired the first shot, at Ft. Sumpter. After being
67 Post contains images TedTAce : Don't forget they lost it too
68 Post contains links MD-90 : I agree, and I don't think that I suggested that soldiers are bribed or tricked into joining, although recruiters have been known to attempt to trick
69 Usnseallt82 : You idiot...read the last part of that statement. It says not to wage wars without cause, but when someone pulls the shit-cord on you and your allies
70 Falcon84 : ROTFL. AGAIN, you ignore what LED to the invasion. And, as far as the U.S. was concerend, MD-90, it wasn't an invasion-it was quelling an insurrectio
71 Post contains images ANCFlyer : OK, I'm baffled . . . last night I thought perhaps MD-90 was perhaps partaking of the "other" green tobacco or had simply ben hitting the Mississippi
72 Post contains links MD11Engineer : Falcon, You are not entirely correct. While the US won control over the philippines during the Spanish-American war in 1898 in a sea battle and Spain
73 AGM114L : MD-90, It seems you like the attention of stirring the waters so I'm not going to argue. All I can say is you may not support the troops but the troop
74 Post contains images ANCFlyer : Simple, to the point, direct, succinct, I like it He won't get it, my Lawn Dart Driving compadre, but I like it.
75 Halls120 : But the title of your thread refers to military personnel, not other government employees. The Border Patrol aren't "troops." If you can't acknowledg
76 Post contains images ANCFlyer : Some of us do not want to face the infamous . . . I'm sure . . . another "Internet Tough Guy". . . phony from the word "go".
77 MD-90 : And just exactly what threat was Korea to us? Vietnam? Iraq, either time? How much of a threat was Hitler (who stated that he planned to rule contine
78 MD-90 : That's actually a good point. By choosing to serve, do they choose to serve the cause of imperialism? Not knowingly, I'd imagine, but that doesn't ch
79 Post contains images ANCFlyer : I guess you missed the entire "Nazi Germany designs (and came damn close to building) a long range bomber to take out New York City and Washington DC
80 Post contains links SATX : This thread is yet another perfect example of 'No free speech shall go unpunished in Jesus Land' Hey, ANCFlyer, remember this...? Does 'Support The Tr
81 MD-90 : Serving God. Care to explain why we had control of any of those territories, or Midway? I live in Jesus Land, SATX.
82 Halls120 : Kiska Is is part of the Aleutian Islands chain. It was invaded shortly after Pearl Harbor, and held by Japanese forces for over a year. Had the Japan
83 ANCFlyer : SATX, I assure you, Conservatives (in the US sense) are not the majority on A-Net . . . ask around . . . you'll figure it out. I do see your point, bu
84 Falcon84 : You forgot the Chokaku and the Zuikaku, ANC. They were part of the attack as well. Not like MD-90 would know that, either.
85 MD11Engineer : But at the same time the Philippines, which were at this time the responsibility of the US, were quite brutally invaded and occupied. You claim a cou
86 Post contains images ANCFlyer : Escort Carriers as opposed to "Capitol Ships" . . . but yes, they were there . . .
87 United737522 : Read USnseallt82's post again, moron. Our main allies were in Continental Europe, and therefore they were threatened. Do I need to spell it out any f
88 Post contains images DL021 : BTW....Shokaku and Zuikaku were not what we would have called escort carriers, but probably in between one of our fleet carriers and a jeep carrier s
89 11Bravo : The Shokaku and Zuikaku were both full "fleet" sized aircraft carriers with a displacement of over 25,000 tons and a complement of 84 aircraft. They w
90 11Bravo : Actually, he's a little bit right about that ANCFlyer. Japanese Battleships were named after provinces and the Kaga was originally laid down as a bat
91 ContnlEliteCMH : Hey, that's a reasonable position, if you really mean it. Oh, I see you don't really mean it. You might want to stop preaching about manners and reas
92 ANCFlyer : The fact of the matter is, Bravo, he was discussing Japanese attacks and invasion forces . . . regardless of whether these were mountains, provinces,
93 Jalto27R : Jesus this thread has gone as far to the WWII Pacific Theatre. MD90; I'll be up-front about what you said in the original post-there's not an object l
94 Post contains images We're Nuts : People here get angry so easily. You all need Ambien.
95 ContnlEliteCMH : When it comes to troop threads, you're right -- the most vocal respondents are conservatives. When it comes to social issues, though, I beg to differ
96 Post contains images Kevi747 : And you people say you're "supporting the troops"
97 11Bravo : I'll grant you that, no question. It's just that I'm a bit of an IJN buff, so I thought I'd add to the generally inane nature of this thread. I frank
98 Post contains images ANCFlyer : Happens that the Battle of Midway was a pivotal point in the early years of the Pacific War . . . in plain, non-vulcan English . . . we got lucky. I'
99 MD-90 : It's Huntsville. In 1950, Athens was bigger than Huntsville! It's an area that's pretty darn nice, but only because of massive amounts of government
100 We're Nuts : Like water off a duck's back. Maybe it has to do with the apostrophe in my name? I don't know, never heard of anyone having problems with it before.
101 TedTAce : Then why did you talk about the subject like you had a clue?!?! Wake up and stop wasting our time with crap you obviously haven't thought out!!
102 Post contains images Logan22L : I can't be bothered to read any of this drivel. MD-90, go suck a duck; you make liberals, libertarians, or whatever flavor of the month you are look l
103 Ihadapheo : VS Interesting contrast in posts, while reading this thread over the past day I have been impressed the knowledge of WW II that was shared by some of
104 ContnlEliteCMH : Hey, good one! That's some pretty persuasive reasoning there. May I use it sometime? Just what "norm" are you talking about? Would you be referring t
105 ANCFlyer : Simple philosophy - don't know it, don't discuss it. I'm glad to hear that . . . I know quite a few folk around Athens, Florence, Decatur, Hunstville
106 We're Nuts : See, you are angry.
107 MD-90 : The norm amongst Huntsville's defense contractors, all of whom work indirectly for the government in some way. ANCFlyer, you're thinking of Greenbrie
108 Post contains images Falcon84 : I love all this talk about Pearl Harbor. Anyone remember "The Final Countdown", in 1980? Kirk Douglas, Martin Sheen, Ron O'Neal, Katherine Harris, Cha
109 Post contains images ANCFlyer : Best place for Catfish and Hushpuppies in Northern Alabama . . . . can't be beat!!!
110 Post contains images Falcon84 : I just shake my head in wonderment, everytime I read MD-90's reply to ANC on that one. Just utterly dumbfounds me.
111 Post contains links MD-90 : Dennis Prager, The Left doesn't support the troops and should admit it http://www.townhall.com/columnists/dennisprager/dp20050712.shtml I'm not a left
112 L-188 : I wouldn't call it blind luck, the US Navy was reading their radio signals, and had their code solved. Commander Joe Rochefort really deserves credit
113 Falcon84 : I don't think anyone, now, can figure out what you are, politically, dude. You argue like an old-time conservative in support of the South in the Civ
114 Post contains images Falcon84 : Granted. We smoked them out with a phony dispatch on the water condenser on Midway, and found out "AF" on their code was Midway. Agreed. But several
115 L-188 : Agreed and two of his favorite advisors where out of the battle, that didn't help either. But then again, technically Nimitz was going with his 'B' t
116 Post contains images Falcon84 : That's right! More dumb luck-Genda and Fuchida were both out of action for that battle. Actually, Genda showed up late in the battle, but wasn't the
117 L-188 : I just looked at the covers of my copies of those movies, and I think it is her in both...
118 Post contains images Usnseallt82 : My thoughts exactly. Thank you. His line of thinking is that if we aren't directly pissed on by someone, we shouldn't do a damn thing. In fact, I thi
119 Post contains images ANCFlyer : Yup, Bull Halsey had the MEASLES . . . of all things . . . So Ray Spruance - not an aviator, not a heavy capitol ship commander, get the job. . . . R
120 Post contains links We're Nuts : It's her in all three: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001684/
121 Falcon84 : And, yet, because Halsey had an itch, Nimitz uncovered one of the great Naval minds the U.S. ever had, in Ray Spruance. And the Japanese were playing
122 Post contains images Usnseallt82 : Damn right.
123 Post contains images ANCFlyer : Brilliant . . . .gawddamned brilliant!
124 Falcon84 : Btw, on and off thorughout the years, I've looked for books on Ray Spurance. Doesn't seem to be much out there. Anyone know of any good books on this
125 AGM114L : MD-90, What do you think kept the commies East of the Berlin Wall? Serving god's will is most important. Be grateful you live in a place where you ar
126 Post contains images MD-90 : Of course they're not, they're destroyers!
127 L-188 : Well, it is a nice thing to have a deep bullpen.
128 11Bravo : Two other factors played major roles at Midway and would continue to do so for the rest of the war, inadequate Japanese damage control, and radar. The
129 ANCFlyer : One of the big tickets in that fight . . .the Consolidated PBY Catalina . . . slow, low and long . . . Strawberry 5 made the initial sighting if I'm r
130 L-188 : The thing that does tend to tick me off about Midway is the fact that the history books do tend to skip over the fact that the Battle of Midway starte
131 ANCFlyer : Quite true, . . . Alaska was a diversion for Midway . . . hoping the US would look at the attacks on Attus and Kiska (PLEASE MD-90 READ THIS) as the m
132 MD-90 : Why shouldn't it have been West Germany, or a joint-Western Europe defense force? Why US?
133 ANCFlyer : Do you not think they were a tad bit busy rebuilding the ENTIRE FUCKING COUNTRY from the ass pounding the allies gave them in WW2?? Just a quick thou
134 MD-90 : Gee, maybe if FDR hadn't given Eastern Europe away to his buddy Stalin, there never would've been that problem in the first place. Tchuss!
135 Usnseallt82 : I wanted to quote that so it was posted again...read it over and over ass wad(MD-90). Its what actually happened and I'd like to see you tell the vet
136 Post contains images ANCFlyer : MD-90, there was no one to stand by and guard any border Oh, no we would have never had the problem of protecting the free sectors of Berlin nor would
137 L-188 : Actually what was funny, was when I was in AIT on Ft. Gordon, trying to explain to the locals that the last battle of the War of Northern Agression w
138 MD-90 : Well, I was thinking of Germany from at least the '50s on. In the immediate aftermath of WWII, yes, I would agree that we might've been needed to cor
139 Post contains images ANCFlyer : Well . . . for starters, france bailed out on NATO and wasn't a factor . . . even kicked all foreign troops out of the country . . . so eliminate Fran
140 Falcon84 : Simple: because the rest of Europe was in shambles, and they HAD to rely on the U.S., who's infrastructure went untouched in the war, and had a nearl
141 Iakobos : Could it be, perhaps, that two mushrooms played a certain role and changed the deal (re cards) at a crucial moment ? just a quick thought of course..
142 Halls120 : "The Quiet Warrior: A Biography of Admiral Raymond A. Spruance," by Thomas B. Buell. Available at Amazon.com.
143 Falcon84 : No, it wouldn't have, because without U.S. troops in the west, the USSR would have not let that deter them. They knew we had the bomb, but they also
144 Post contains images Allstarflyer : MD-90, I thought you often brought some good reason to your posts until I read through this. Yeah, I would pretty much agree, except for the Vietnam p
145 Ihadapheo : Remember Lew Ramonewell says... "PT-boat on the way to Havana I used to make a living, man Pickin' the banana Now I'm a guide for the CIA Hooray for t
146 Tbar220 : The responses I've seen in this thread are sickening. You may not agree with him, but he has the right to post it. Yet so many resolve to insult MD-90
147 Post contains links MD-90 : I also found this article to be interesting. http://www.guardian.co.uk/usa/story/0,12271,1555820,00.html Is today's 2005 Iraq War going to hurt like t
148 Falcon84 : Yeah, and I have the right to tell him he's full of it; I have the right to tell him to study about the Pacific War, Dec 7, 1941-Sept 2, 1945, and le
149 Halls120 : While I agree that MD-90 has the right to criticize his country, he should at least have the intellectual honesty to get his facts right, and admit i
150 Tbar220 : No, not specifically calling out somebody who is wrong, I support that too. Don't put words into my mouth. What disgusts me is that so many people or
151 MD-90 : Frankly, I consider those history questions that I didn't answer to be specious conjecture.
152 AGM114L : MD-90, I think to clarify this whole mess up you should further define what "support the troops" means to you. Not supporting the war or what the troo
153 MD-90 : Well, of course! I wish this whole stupid war had never been started in the first place, and no one would've had to die. I do respect what they go th
154 AGM114L : This really isn't an 'either or' question. I think just about all can agree (the troops, Iraqis, political leaders) US Military withdrawal now would
155 EA CO AS : Someone send this guy a history textbook, stat!
156 Halls120 : I agree that the insults aren't necessary, but given the volatility of the issue under discussion, and his lack of intellectual honesty, he had to ex
157 MD-90 : You wish.
158 AGM114L : MD-90, I think its time you let this thread die. Your posts are just getting more and more pitiful and asinine.
159 B744F : Well first of all WWI was probably even more unpopular than Vietnam. I don't think your suggestion of "most" is entirely correct. "Most" people have
160 DL021 : Crickets pontificating about that which they don't understand. Telling people to reject the history they learned in school so they can do what? Accept
161 NumberTwelve : MD 80, thanks for the great thoughts. And continue thinking sceptical, don't let yourself blame from people who say "Yes" and "Amen" to everything som
162 Iakobos : Perhaps starting to realize that there might be more than one version in a story, it would be a good start. At the end of the tunnel you might see a
163 DL021 : Iakobos....I'm fairly objective about most things. However the versions of history promulgated by the above poster have generally proven to range fro
164 Iakobos : Well, I and my gf were witness of part of a long serie of still unexplained events back in '90 (google Belgium UFO wave), so the acronym UFO does not
165 Post contains images Greyhound : I think a few million Jewish people, as well as others might have something to say about that.... oh wait a second they're dead. As far as all that t
166 DL021 : What? I must have missed this one earlier...... Hitler posed a threat to the entire world. He told the rest of Europe that if they gave him the Sudet
167 Iakobos : Agreed that Yamamoto's aim in attacking Pearl (carriers) was to shift the balance of power in the Pacific (re Japanese sphere of influence). But...wh
168 DL021 : There is an assumption. I never said that they actually intended to invade. I was offering logical reasons why the Japanese could not have invaded tha
169 Boeing Nut : Why am I NOT surpirised.
170 B744F : Way to go, completely evade actually having to explain why I am wrong, just use comments and insults to show how correct you are.
171 ANCFlyer : Interestingly enough, I have yet to see you post any link to any damn thing to prove you are right? DL021 1 B744F 0 next?
172 DL021 : Did someone hear a cricket afflicted with irritable diarrhea of the mouth?
173 B744F : What is with this obsession to demand links (and then turn around and complain that google is my research tool like many have done)? All you need to
174 ANCFlyer : You've spouted off such a volume of shit i so damn many threads if I took the time to look up all the different shit you've said to prove your point
175 B744F : Don't blame me for your lack of a proper education and understanding of how the world works.
176 Post contains images ANCFlyer : And this supposed lack of education has what to do with the fact you can't back up a gawddamn thing you say with an ounce of fact or a single frickin
177 B744F : Another baseless accusation used as an insult. Bravo. And you even post stupid pictures as well, boy how mature!
178 ANCFlyer : Something you could grasp . . . . Still waiting on those UFO pictures . . . .
179 TPASXM787 : Dumbass. Read the rule. Post a link. Until then, STFU, and back up what you're saying.
180 B744F : Head on down to your local library and find out for yourself who's telling the truth.
181 DL021 : Well, since we have descended to the level where the grasshopper is telling us that "the truth is out there" I think that this thread can now be calle
182 Halls120 : Not my wish. Just what you've continually demonstrated during this thread.
183 UAL777 : MD-90..From a former Marine reservist, I believe I can speak for the USMC when I say you are a disgusting waste of carbon. It shames and disgusts me t
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