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Allstarflyer Gone?  
User currently offlineTedTAce From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (8 years 11 months 4 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 870 times:

Looks like they have become among the dearly departed.

http://www.airliners.net/discussions...profile.main?username=Allstarflyer

[Edited 2005-08-30 15:26:52]

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User currently offlineLogan22L From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (8 years 11 months 4 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 850 times:

Quoting TedTAce (Thread starter):
Looks like they have become among the dearly departed.

They? Did Allstarflyer have a split personality?

Seems he's gone, but I have no idea why. We usually got at each other a bit, but he seemed like a decent guy.


User currently offlineTedTAce From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (8 years 11 months 4 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 844 times:

Quoting Logan22L (Reply 1):

They? Did Allstarflyer have a split personality?

I wasn't positive he was a HE...


User currently offlineLogan22L From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (8 years 11 months 4 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 834 times:

Quoting TedTAce (Reply 2):
I wasn't positive he was a HE...

Yes, that rash of transgendered aviation enthusiasts that is sweeping the nation can be confusing.  Wink


User currently offlineKROC From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (8 years 11 months 4 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 830 times:

He sent me a PM about the yahoo fantasy football league today and mentioned he was leaving the site. He didn't say why and I didn't push the issue.

User currently offlineTbar220 From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 7013 posts, RR: 26
Reply 5, posted (8 years 11 months 4 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 825 times:

That's strange, cause I just got a PM from him as well.


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User currently offlineRedngold From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 6907 posts, RR: 44
Reply 6, posted (8 years 11 months 4 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 802 times:

I'd guess he just decided it wasn't worth it anymore. He was heavily involved in religious discussions... I agreed with his stances, but I know how exhausting that can be, and to each his own about deciding whether it's worth to stay for that.

Besides, it's an aviation website, and if you're not getting much aviation stuff out of it, what's it worth to stay here as opposed to a site with a more interesting focus?

God bless him wherever he goes...
redngold



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User currently offlineDiamond From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 3279 posts, RR: 63
Reply 7, posted (8 years 11 months 4 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 797 times:

Quoting TedTAce (Thread starter):
Allstarflyer Gone?

What a shame. I suggest that we all wear black tomorrow.  sarcastic 



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User currently offlineTedTAce From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (8 years 11 months 4 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 784 times:

Quoting Redngold (Reply 6):
Besides, it's an aviation website, and if you're not getting much aviation stuff out of it, what's it worth to stay here as opposed to a site with a more interesting focus?

no benefit=useless

If all you are going to do is come here and get worked up over what a bunch of morons have to say, this place is worthless.

If you sit back take it with a VERY large grain of salt, and say they are wrong (to yourself), and time will show them, you'll be fine. I have said it before and I'll repeat it now; I come here for my own amusement. If anyone finds me insightful or funny GREAT, that's a bonus. But the second I am not amused by this place is the time I leave.

PS please don't waste your time with door hitting me on the ass remmarks as those make me laugh and stay.


User currently offlineBezoar From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 807 posts, RR: 8
Reply 9, posted (8 years 11 months 4 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 769 times:

"And if any place will not welcome you or listen to you, shake the dust off your feet when you leave, as a testimony against them." - Mark 6:11

Allstarflyer, I've appreciated your efforts to represent Christianity with knowledge and intelligence. If you have decided to end your anet mission, keep up the good fight wherever you go.

- Bezoar



"There are none so blind as those who will not see."
User currently offlineDiamond From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 3279 posts, RR: 63
Reply 10, posted (8 years 11 months 4 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 755 times:

Quoting Bezoar (Reply 9):
If you have decided to end your anet mission, keep up the good fight wherever you go.

Bullshit. He was 'fighting' other Christians over stupid semantics - and playing a childish game of "my-bible-is-bigger-than-your-bible".

And we all know "he" is still here under another name anyway.



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User currently offlineRedngold From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 6907 posts, RR: 44
Reply 11, posted (8 years 11 months 4 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 735 times:

Quoting Diamond (Reply 10):
And we all know "he" is still here under another name anyway.

Prove it. Give us a username. Unless, of course, you're accusing me of using Allstarflyer as a second name, in which case you would be absolutely, positively, entirely wrong.


redngold



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User currently offlineRedngold From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 6907 posts, RR: 44
Reply 12, posted (8 years 11 months 4 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 731 times:

Quoting Diamond (Reply 10):

Bullshit. He was 'fighting' other Christians over stupid semantics - and playing a childish game of "my-bible-is-bigger-than-your-bible".

And you were the opposing party... Nice of you to point out you own foibles... Pot... Kettle... BLACK!



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User currently offlineBezoar From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 807 posts, RR: 8
Reply 13, posted (8 years 11 months 4 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 719 times:

Quoting Diamond (Reply 10):
Bullshit.

Everyone has a right to their own opinion. I think it would be fair to say that we all have at least some desire to express our thoughts, debate, argue points, etc.

However, the #1 rule for the anet message boards reads "Please respect each other and choose your words wisely. Each user has their own point of view, and these views must be respected."

I think this rule is routinely neglected.

I don't necessarily always agree with what other Christians say on these boards, or the way they say it. Sometimes we learn quite a bit by trying to express ourselves here. I know I have. But I also realize that not everyone will agree with what I have to say.



"There are none so blind as those who will not see."
User currently offlineCanuckpaxguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (8 years 11 months 3 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 604 times:

I have absolutely no problems with Christians. I am one.
I have absolutely no problems with those who overzealously take Christianity so literally. (I don't understand them, but I'll surely accept them too.)

I have a problem with extremists who have no capacity to tolerate or accept the beliefs of others. I find the METHOD in which extremists operate as dangerous, hypocritical and thoroughly UNCHRISTIAN.

RedNGold, not to single you out since I know you to be more level headed than others, but many of you're comments are perfect examples of this hypocritical rhetoric used by EXTREMISTS. And while you may not be an extremist, when I hear your rhetoric, I have difficultly distinguishing your beliefs and actions from those of the Phelps family.

To the "extremists" I say the following:

You quote biblical references to those for whom it has little or no meaning.
You draw obscene conclusions from weakly interpreted passages.
You refuse accept the opinions of others and insult those who challenge you.
....and you get really upset when people do it back to you.

You pick and choose biblical references to assist you in passing judgement on others while you live in an ignorant bliss of smug hypocrisy.

I believe in God. People like you make me ashamed to admit it.
I envision MY God looking down at the religious extremists, rolling his/her eyes and thinking, "Maybe I did make a mistake or two afterall".

My God taught me to respect the opinions and values of others, including those with other beliefs. This is NOT limited to a discussion of those beliefs, but also in the acceptance of their ACTIONS.

I accept peoples' ACTIONS and BELIEFS provided they do not hurt others. Homosexuals do not hurt people. INDIVIDUALS hurt people, regardless of their sexuality. YOU and YOUR RHETORIC hurt people and make them afraid. You are no better than Senator McCarthy and the social genocide he insighted on his own people; nor are you any better than those who led the slaughter of "witches" in Salem.

Have you learned nothing from your own history? Is Fred Phelps the next big scar in American history?

Phew. I feel better now that I got that off my chest.

Quoting Redngold (Reply 17):
What a friend we have in Diamond!

You should be so lucky lady. I have known Diamond for a long time and I can assure you that come judgement day, he's got a better chance at marching through them pearly gates than a lot us (including you and I) do.

Maybe you could spend a little less time passing judgement on others, and spend a few more minutes in front of the mirror looking at yourself instead.

G


User currently offlineConcord977 From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 1261 posts, RR: 25
Reply 15, posted (8 years 11 months 3 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 585 times:

I have to agree with what Canuckpaxguy said 100%.

The vocal religious people on here have no idea how hostile they are coming across.



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User currently offlineShyFlyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (8 years 11 months 3 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 573 times:

Quoting Concord977 (Reply 24):
The vocal religious people on here have no idea how hostile they are coming across.

Christians can often become their own worst enemies. This is why I try to avoid threads that deal with religious themes. Many times I've wanted to post, only to stop myself by asking, "Am I really acting in a Christian manner? Will my words be understood in the manner in which I intended?"

Besides, this horse has been beat way beyond death. Those that don't accept Christian ideology will not accept it by visiting this site. No amount of arguing, quoting, or pleading will change that. Perhaps some will change their minds, perhaps not. It isn't up to us.


User currently offlineRedngold From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 6907 posts, RR: 44
Reply 17, posted (8 years 11 months 3 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 569 times:

Quoting Canuckpaxguy (Reply 28):

I am sorry you feel that way about me. There truly is a HUGE difference between what I do and what Fred Phelps does. I have not based my life's work on pure hatred of a few. I have based my life's work on serving God in whatever capacity He might will.
Also, because you do not know me as a physical person, there is no way that I can show you that my actions are evenhanded, unbiased and civil towards those with whom I disagree.

Quoting Canuckpaxguy (Reply 28):
You quote biblical references to those for whom it has little or no meaning.

As I stated before, Jesus believed in the Bible. So do I. It gives me a grounded foundation for my beliefs, a guide to a straight path. God lead me to the Bible after I placed my faith in Christ. If it has no meaning to others, then there is little I can do except hope that God opens their eyes.

Quoting Canuckpaxguy (Reply 28):
You draw obscene conclusions from weakly interpreted passages.

That's a judgement you're making on me and millions of other Christians. And I don't think they're weakly interpreted, as there are over 20 verses that deal with sexual immorality, each one consistent with the other.

Quoting Canuckpaxguy (Reply 28):
You refuse accept the opinions of others and insult those who challenge you.

I don't refuse to accept that others have differing opinions; I know it will always be so. I don't think I've intentionally insulted anyone for not believing the same thing as me.
But please, indulge me for a second. I get told that I am closed minded and ignorant when I state my opinion, and I'm told that it's ridiculous to base my opinion on the Bible because "it's just another book." But anyone who bases their opinion on the Tao, or the Bhagavad-Gita, or the Koran, or even something written by Carl Sagan or Isaac Asimov, is lauded for "refreshing new perspectives" and "humanitarianism." I have read many of those same works, and while they may have some compelling ideas, they don't speak as truth to my soul.

Quoting Canuckpaxguy (Reply 28):
My God taught me to respect the opinions and values of others, including those with other beliefs. This is NOT limited to a discussion of those beliefs, but also in the acceptance of their ACTIONS.

My God taught me:
Matthew 22:36-40.
"Teacher, which is the greatest commandment in the Law?" Jesus replied: " 'Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.' This is the first and greatest commandment. And the second is like it: 'Love your neighbor as yourself.' All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments."

Just as it says here, I love God with all my heart and soul and mind first. Furthermore, I don't believe that "love your neighbor as yourself" means that I must always please my neighbor by turning a deaf ear or a blind eye to things that are immoral and unwise. If I love myself, I change the things that need to be changed to be in God's will. If I love my neighbor, I speak truth to him/her.

Quoting Canuckpaxguy (Reply 28):
You are no better than Senator McCarthy and the social genocide he insighted on his own people; nor are you any better than those who led the slaughter of "witches" in Salem.

I am insulted and challenged nearly every time I back up my perspective with Biblical truth, but I turn the other cheek.
Just like that.



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