I spoke to the Honda Dealer last night. Due to high demand that is forcast, they will add $4000.00 to factory sticker as a "District Availability Surcharge"
777DadandJr From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 1516 posts, RR: 12 Reply 2, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 1778 times:
Aa777,
I would agree. I saw it in Car and Driver last night. Very cool, indeed!
Russ
My glass is neither 1/2 empty nor 1/2 full, rather, the glass itself is twice as big as it should be.
Aa777flyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 3, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 1762 times:
Russ,
What sucks is with a MSRP price of around $22,000 add in the $4,000 mark up on it you are looking at $26,000.00 OUCH!. Toyota dealers are adding around a $5,000 premium on the Prius making it close to $30,000.00.
DesertJets From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 7677 posts, RR: 18 Reply 4, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 1760 times:
I am really warming up to the new design, but I would still like to see it in person in all of the body styles. The current car is rather, well..., bland and somewhat disappointing. Honda has been experiencing generally soft sales with the entire Honda line-up, new vehicles like the Ridgeline are not meeting sales projections, and some general quality woes have been popping up with alarming regularity over the past few years.
Honda really needs a hit with this car, along with the refreshed 06 Accord. Given our current sensitivities to gas prices a new car like the Civic might do better than usual in the sales department.
Stop drop and roll will not save you in hell. --- seen on a church marque in rural Virginia
PROSA From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 5440 posts, RR: 5 Reply 6, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 1760 times:
Quoting Aa777flyer (Thread starter): Due to high demand that is forcast, they will add $4000.00 to factory sticker as a "District Availability Surcharge"
Anyone who would go along with such price-gouging is making a huge mistake. Doing so is basically equivalent to paying $4,000 for an ego boost - "Hey everyone, I've got one of the new Civics. Look at me!" And however nice the 2006 Civic may be, there certainly are alternatives, other cars that are available without having to enrich greedy dealers.
Let's not forget what happened when Chrysler introduced the PT Cruiser a few years ago. There was rampant price-gouging, with some people paying thousands over sticker and travelling to distant states to find dealers with ones in stock. Less than a year after their introduction, however, sales of PT Cruisers fell off to the point Chrysler had to offer large rebates and other incentives. I wonder what the first buyers, who'd paid the huge premiums, thought about that?
"Let me think about it" = the coward's way of saying "no"
Aa777flyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 8, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 1742 times:
PROSA-
I think the main thing with the added mark up is due to the price of Gas. This is something the dealers have started in the past week or so. As long as prices stay high for gas, I think the premium will stay. When I use to sell Hondas about 13 years ago, we put a $3000.00 mark up on all cars. Most of the time we did not get it, however....every once in a while "a fool and his money are soon parted..." if you dont ask for it you wont get it.
777DadandJr From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 1516 posts, RR: 12 Reply 9, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 1723 times:
Quoting Aa777flyer (Reply 3): Maybe I will keep my PAID FOR 2002 Lexus
As cool as the new Civic is, I'm not giving up my 2000 323i SportWagon either!
Russ
My glass is neither 1/2 empty nor 1/2 full, rather, the glass itself is twice as big as it should be.
ACDC8 From Canada, joined Mar 2005, 7598 posts, RR: 40 Reply 10, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 1695 times:
Quoting Aa777flyer (Reply 3): What sucks is with a MSRP price of around $22,000 add in the $4,000 mark up on it you are looking at $26,000.00 OUCH!. Toyota dealers are adding around a $5,000 premium on the Prius making it close to $30,000.00.
Are we talking the Hybrid model here? Or a top of the line Si?
RedDragon From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2004, 1135 posts, RR: 7 Reply 13, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 1653 times:
Quoting Aa777flyer (Thread starter): Due to high demand that is forcast, they will add $4000.00 to factory sticker as a "District Availability Surcharge"
I'm going to have to wait to see the new Civic in the metal before I decide on it... At the moment I really want to like it, but can't. My first impression is that it looks like a late-80s/early-90s vision-of-the-future concept car - what we'll all be driving in 2006. Well true, we will, but to my eyes so far it looks like it's straight out of a computer game, and like it'll date very quickly. I'm hoping I'll be proved wrong.
I believe it was Autocar that ran with the headline "Next Civic: More Sega Than Saga". How appropriate!
PROSA From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 5440 posts, RR: 5 Reply 14, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 1627 times:
Quoting Aa777flyer (Reply 8): think the main thing with the added mark up is due to the price of Gas. This is something the dealers have started in the past week or so. As long as prices stay high for gas, I think the premium will stay. When I use to sell Hondas about 13 years ago, we put a $3000.00 mark up on all cars. Most of the time we did not get it, however....every once in a while "a fool and his money are soon parted..." if you dont ask for it you wont get it.
I'm not sure I follow. Do you mean that because gasoline has gotten so expensive, people are willing to pay thousands over sticker for fuel-efficient cars?
"Let me think about it" = the coward's way of saying "no"
Delta767300ER From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 2559 posts, RR: 14 Reply 15, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 1626 times:
We're Nuts From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 5705 posts, RR: 21 Reply 18, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 1579 times:
N766UA From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 8008 posts, RR: 27 Reply 19, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 1565 times:
I find the '06 quite unappealing. I'm looking at an '05 Civic EX SE as a replacement for my gas-suckin' oil-burnin' Jeep.
EA CO AS From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 12595 posts, RR: 64 Reply 20, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 1555 times:
Quoting Aa777flyer (Reply 3): I can buy a SH**t load of gas for that...
Maybe I will keep my PAID FOR 2002 Lexus.
Precisely my thoughts! I'll keep my PAID FOR 2003 Toyota 4Runner - which gets 23mpg; pretty respectable for an SUV.
"In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem - government IS the problem." - Ronald Reagan
AC777LR From Canada, joined Apr 2006, 487 posts, RR: 46 Reply 21, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 1539 times:
Quoting BR715-A1-30 (Reply 17): I'm gonna buy a 2006 Toyota Corolla S Instead... My 1998 Fuel Guzzler Mustang is getting up in miles, and gas ain't gettin cheaper either
Thank you, your Toyota was or will be made in my home town of Cambridge Ontario, so it will be built at Toyota's highest ranked plant. The only plant that makes a Lexus off shore from Japan.
ACDC8 From Canada, joined Mar 2005, 7598 posts, RR: 40 Reply 22, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 1484 times:
I'm still curious about those prices that Aa777flyer gave. $22,000 US (plus the $4,000 mark up) upwards for a Civic seems very unrealistic to me. I took out a used Mini on the weekend at our local Acura dealer and we were talking about the 2006 RSX. He gave me the fax with the specs on it and it's starting at $28,000 CDN (mind you, the 2006 base model is the premium 2005 model).
SATX From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 2840 posts, RR: 8 Reply 23, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 1464 times:
I think Civic Hybrids were going for around $18,000 last time I checked. It would floor me to think they are now $25,000+. Maybe it's time to sell mine for a modest profit. LOL!
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Asuflyer05 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 2369 posts, RR: 3 Reply 24, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 1436 times:
I don't think there's going to be a $4000 markup. MSRP for the normal Civics for at least the first few month, then maybe a G note over for the Si's. I work at a Top 10 national Honda store and we are only getting 4 civics in September.
25 J.mo: I have owned 6 different Honda's and I can say; that thing is FUGLY. JM
26 Ushermittwoch: Germany is also to get the "Asian" version. The US one looks a whole lot classier though. Wonder if they are going to make a hybrid version of it. Tha
27 MAH4546: Indeed they are. It arrives at launch...
28 ACDC8: The more I look at the pictures, the more I'm liking it. Kinda looks like a miniature Accord Coupe crossed with a Peugeot 307 Cabrio (with the roof cl
29 Wingman: Try buying the car online and get quotes from 2-3 dealers in the area. I bought a 2005 Accord Hybrid online and it had $0 markup on it. Down the road
30 RedDragon: I've only just clicked the link in the thread starter, and realised that you're all on about a different version... seems Europe is getting the Asian
31 ACDC8: I just got back from test driving a 2005 Si, and we were talking about the 2006 model. As I suspected, they will be the same price as offered this yea
32 AvObserver: "Due to high demand that is forcast, they will add $4000.00 to factory sticker as a "District Availability Surcharge" It may be a great car but I'm un
34 WhiteHatter: Buy a Mazda 3 and become one of the quality vehicle owning a.nutters
35 N243NW: As much as I'd like to force myself to like it, I just can't. As a happy Civic owner currently ('98), I hate to see the new Civic look less than attra
36 Jutes85: I've read all the reviews so far on the 06 Si and have yet to see any real numbers. Sure they say its "fast" and handles "great", but compared to what
37 CPDC10-30: Ugh. The front on the new Civic looks too much like the initial Saturn Ion models. If the current fuel prices remain stable, I'll be up to about $4000
38 ACDC8: I thought that the Corolla's were built in Ontario? From the Toyota website: The Corolla holds a special place for TMMC: the first car to roll off th
39 ACDC8: I know that the Vibe and Matrix are pretty much the same vehicle and built at the same plant. But is the Matrix/Vibe built on the Corolla platform?
40 AC777LR: Well not quite, the Vibe is built in California and the Matrix is built in Cambridge Ontario Canada (My city) but yes they are on the Corolla Platfor
41 ACDC8: Celica is based on the Corolla? Wow, I would have never guessed. The Rav4 is as well or not? What all is built in Cambridge? I used to live in Kitche
42 AC777LR: Cambridge TMMC makes the Lexus RX300 the Matrix and the Corolla
43 ContnlEliteCMH: And you won't be disappointed. One of my brothers owns the previous gen Corolla S. It gets every bit the advertised gas mileage, and perhaps slightly
44 AC777LR: I would go with the Corolla XRS, that is a sweet machine. 6 Speed manual too.
45 PROSA: Getting back to the issue of price-gouging, earlier today my wife and I went to a local dealership to look at the restyled 2006 Mitsubishi Eclipse. He
46 AvObserver: PROSA: Re: the Eclipses - If the dealer added alarm and remote starter accounts entirely for the additional $2195., technically it's not the same as a
47 PROSA: Good point. Even though Mitsubishi has little control over the prices its dealers charge, people are going to blame it anyway.
48 CPDC10-30: The US Corollas are made at the NUMMI plant in Fremont, CA http://www.toyota.com/about/operatio...acturing/manu_location/nummi.html. The website just
49 AC777LR: CPDC10-30, I know a few folks who work at the Cambridge plant and they told me that the Corollas sold in states on the West are built at the New unite
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