JCS17 From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 8065 posts, RR: 41 Posted (8 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 1605 times:
I understand that most of the people who stayed in the city of New Orleans are lower-class, but I really don't understand how you could just sit on your ass for three days while a category five hurricane is bearing down on your city. Its not like a tornado where there was no warning, they had three days of news reports everywhere that this thing was going to devastate the city--no doubt about it, the police were trying to get them to leave, the mayor and local leaders urged people to evacuate. I know a lot of those people don't own a car, who the hell cares?! Even if I was in that city without a car or money, I'd still be trying desparately to leave New Orleans--I'd walk if I had to. You have to believe that a lot of these people knew the danger they were getting themselves into by staying in their neighborhoods below sea level. I really tend to believe that if these people really wanted to leave, they could've, one way or another.
As for the riots in the Superdome, I saw that coming from about a mile away.
I feel bad for them, and we should help them, absolutely, but what in Gods name were they thinking? When I see someone on the news screaming about "We ain't gettin no help from no one!" my only thought is, "You could've helped yourself by trying to get out!"
TheCoz From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (8 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 1584 times:
Quoting JCS17 (Thread starter): but I really don't understand how you could just sit on your ass for three days while a category five hurricane is bearing down on your city.
Several years ago, I remember seeing an episode of NOVA on public television where they investigated the vulnerability of New Orleans to a severe hurricane. Much of the program focused on how unprepared NO was for such a hurricane.
I have to wonder why they have been so unprepared for not just days, but for decades leading up to this point. There's no question that a significant hurricane would eventually hit the city, what was everyone waiting for?
Roger136913 From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 473 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (8 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 1581 times:
I'm not sure they had 3 days warning, but none the less there was warning.
Usually people stay behind for what ever reason. I'm not sure if I would stay behind once announced it was a cat-5 hurricane. It was heading straight towards N.0. and they did not get the full brunt as it turned a bit to the right.
What amazes me is not the people who are looting for food, but those taking TV/s clothes ect, ect. I mean where can you plug in a TV and how far are you going to carry it?????????
I think most were the lower class also. I heard there were buses to take people out of the city. Not sure how many, but if I were there I would have started to walk if I was leaving.
People looting are just creating more problems and those shooting are creating a bigger problem as the rescue workers face being killed. Not sure what goes through peoples minds during a natural disaster, but looting for TV's and shoes and so on would be going through my mind the least. I saw a old man walking through waist high water with crutches and no one was helping him.......... To me that is disturbing. Seems a lot of the younger people forget what compassion is. Kudos to those who do help out and don't loot.
The devastation are is 90,000 square miles. It's going to take time to get to everyone.
Jtamu97 From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 658 posts, RR: 2
Reply 4, posted (8 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 1573 times:
They were also told they would be safe at the Superdome and the conevention center since these places were equipped with generators. As mentioned no body could have imagined the levy problems as well as the entire pump system wiped out due to the high water. Everyone knew it was going to be bad but nobody expected these results.
Quoting JCS17 (Thread starter): I really tend to believe that if these people really wanted to leave, they could've, one way or another.
Alot of these people relied on Mass transportation, bicycles, walking etc. and did not have a way of getting out. I doubt anyone really wanted to stay, some people just gambled. However, there should not have been as many people perhaps judging by some of the cars that were around.
Bottom line, we can only believe what we are told. The city did call for a mandatory evacuation, and many many people did evacuate. However, as I mentioned the others were told to go to the Superdome. In my opinion, the city should have requested these buses beforehand and we would not be in this situation..Well as they say hindsight is 20/20. Rather than criticize those who chose to stay behind, we need to do all we can to help now and ask questions later.
They werenâ€™t sitting on their ass â€“ they were out looting. Display case for bell peppers, TVs, shoes (from that Foot Locker), threads (clothes), cleaned out the guns and ammo from the local Wal-Mart.
Seriously, part of it is "boy who cried wolf syndrome." And part of it is lack of money. Today is September 1, when checks come. Most didnâ€™t have a spare dime to fill up the gas tank or buy a bus/plane/train ticket out of Dodge.
Truly devastating. Itâ€™s difficult seeing those pictures on TV of people on rooftops knowing full well they could have left.
The Superdome opened - what Sunday? Iâ€™m sure someone could either walk (yes, walk) or ride public transit.
AsstChiefMark From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (8 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 1564 times:
In emergency services, we're taught to expect everything to go wrong. So we develop back-up plans. There's back-up plans for the back-up plans. The back-up plans are implemented the minute the primary plan fails. It appears the NO big shots didn't have back-up plans. If they did, they didn't plan to ever have to enact them...the "it'll never happen to us" syndrome.
It seems all of their plans were based on the hope that the levees would never fail. That's pretty short-sighted. If I were the planner, I would have expected the levees to fail.