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User currently offlineBofredrik From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (9 years 2 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 3338 times:

US gvmt have asked other countries to help with the rescue in New Orleans and other areas effected of the the disaster.

Sweden will send help when more info comes what is needed.

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User currently offlineFlyLondon From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2004, 377 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (9 years 2 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 3319 times:

This is a chance for all the countries over the decades that the US has come to the aid of to return the favour. I applaud the US gov't for asking for help rather that some stupid russian style national pride preventing them from doing so. I hope all countries will do what they can to ease the unprecedented suffering in the west displayed by people on the Gulf coast.

[Edited 2005-09-01 21:38:04]

User currently offlineWe're Nuts From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 5722 posts, RR: 19
Reply 2, posted (9 years 2 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 3313 times:

Quoting FlyLondon (Reply 1):
US has come to the aid of to return the failure

Come on, we didn't screw things up that bad.  Wink



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User currently offlineWhiteHatter From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (9 years 2 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 3285 times:

According to BBC radio today, some voluntary and military assets were mobilised from the UK almost immediately, including search and rescue teams who have extensive experience.They were also broadcasting website addresses where donations can be made, such as the Red Cross.

It's difficult at the moment as anything of volume is obviously an issue which needs a bit of planning and thought, but the important stuff was offered and made ready almost at the minute the scale of what happened became clear.

I know some search and rescue volunteers who do stuff like cave rescues and floods who have been put on notice that they could be going very soon as those skills will be invaluable. Forensics will be another area which becomes important as time progresses, and the dead need to be identified. Many nations can contribute some help in numbers of qualified forensic pathologists as the immediate problems are got out of the way.

There is a lot to do, it just needs to be done right.


User currently offlineSATL382G From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (9 years 2 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 3279 times:

Quoting Bofredrik (Thread starter):
US gvmt have asked other countries to help with the rescue in New Orleans and other areas effected of the the disaster.

Do you know what has been requested? I'm betting on Search & Rescue and Collapse teams, especially teams with dogs.


User currently offlinePetertenthije From Netherlands, joined Jul 2001, 3369 posts, RR: 12
Reply 5, posted (9 years 2 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 3255 times:

Quoting SATL382G (Reply 4):
Do you know what has been requested? I'm betting on Search & Rescue and Collapse teams, especially teams with dogs.

A specific request was made to NL for experts in water management. They are being mobilised and will be going shortly from what I understand.



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User currently offlineBofredrik From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (9 years 2 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 3243 times:

Quoting SATL382G (Reply 4):
Do you know what has been requested?

No, i do not know in specific.
But here is a link to our Rescue Service homepage in english:

http://www.srv.se/templates/SRV_Page____622.aspx

They have mobile hospitals and a lot of special cars & trucks and ofcourse special trained dogs to find people under destroyed houses etc. Another thing that they do is to set up water cleaning machines.

[Edited 2005-09-01 21:41:39]

User currently offlineFlyLondon From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2004, 377 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (9 years 2 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 3223 times:

Quoting FlyLondon (Reply 1):
US has come to the aid of to return the failure

Come on, we didn't screw things up that bad.


Freudian slip there!


User currently offlineNoUFO From Germany, joined Apr 2001, 7957 posts, RR: 12
Reply 8, posted (9 years 2 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 3223 times:

Quoting FlyLondon (Reply 1):
This is a chance for all the countries over the decades that the US has come to the aid of to return the failure. I applaud the US gov't for asking for help rather that some stupid russian style national pride preventing them from doing so.

Indeed! I worried a bit that the administration might follow the (former) Russian path, but if Bofrederik is right (where is the link?), there is no reason for that thought anymore.

Edit: Again, where was the link to the news?

[Edited 2005-09-01 21:44:09]


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User currently offlineSchoenorama From Spain, joined Apr 2001, 2440 posts, RR: 25
Reply 9, posted (9 years 2 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 3209 times:

Quoting Bofredrik (Thread starter):
US gvmt have asked other countries to help with the rescue in New Orleans and other areas effected of the the disaster.

Could you provide a source for that info?

As far as I know, the Bush Government has NOT asked international help although other nations have offered such help:

"Q It's search and rescue now, and in a very few days it's probably going to start shifting to search and recovery, sadly, so clearly, there's urgency now. Have you considered making a request for international aid? Has it been considered getting -- from all the states, or even co-opting domestic airlines to get them to evacuate people or to bring --

MR. McCLELLAN: I'm not talking about any specific area. Again, this is something that is probably a question best directed to the Department of Homeland Security at one of their briefings, when you're looking at some of these issues. But I don't think we're ruling things out at this point, I mean, in terms of any area. In terms of requests from -- or in terms of assistance from other nations, as I just indicated earlier today, we are open to all offers of assistance from other nations and --

Q Is that a request? Would you put that into a form of a request?

MR. McCLELLAN: -- I would expect we would take people up on offers of assistance when it's necessary.

Q So that is a request? You are requesting international aid?

MR. McCLELLAN: No. I mean, I think that a lot of nations have offered assistance. I don't know of any particular request that I have to update you on at this point. And the point I think I'm making is that we're not ruling things out, so whenever you're looking at any area to help with the response and recovery efforts, you always want to consider all your options that are available.

And so I don't know -- the President talked earlier today when he was asked about -- I think it was about Saudi Arabia, and he said he was confident Saudi Arabia would provide what assistance they could when it came to the energy supply. But of course, he talked about how their capacity was limited. There are a lot of ways people can help. And certainly, we're going to look at those offers and take people up on those offers, I would expect.

Q Isn't the time, though, now in terms of getting people out alive, maybe getting rescuers in, whereas in some days' time it may only be money or body recovery?

MR. McCLELLAN: I'm sorry, as in --

Q The time now to request international aid, international --

MR. McCLELLAN: There's a lot of assistance coming in. And I think some have offered already offered assistance in different ways, so I don't think that the way you characterize it is necessarily the way I would look at it.
"

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2005/09/20050901-2.html

"Canadian Forces are on standby to help the United States deal with the aftermath of hurricane Katrina, Chief of Defence Staff General Rick Hillier announced Thursday.

Gen. Hillier said he spoke with his counterparts in the U.S., Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff General Richard Myers and commander of the U.S. Northern Command.

"Whenever there is a need ... they have but to ask and we in the Canadian Forces will have it rolling or sailing or flying southward as quickly as possible," he told reporters in Ottawa.
" http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNew...97613680_121006813/?hub=TopStories



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User currently offlineFlydubai From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2005, 162 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (9 years 2 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 3199 times:

Quoting WhiteHatter (Reply 3):
They were also broadcasting website addresses where donations can be made, such as the Red Cross.

And Birmingham based charity Islamic Relief.

flydubai


User currently offlineArrow From Canada, joined Jun 2002, 2676 posts, RR: 2
Reply 11, posted (9 years 2 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 3172 times:
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Quoting SATL382G (Reply 4):
Do you know what has been requested? I'm betting on Search & Rescue and Collapse teams, especially teams with dogs.

This was announced yesterday. Canadian Forces today had offered several units, including Disaster Response Team (DART).

B.C. RESCUE TEAM TO HELP VICTIMS OF HURRICANE KATRINA

VICTORIA - British Columbia is sending the Vancouver-based Heavy Urban
Search and Rescue (HUSAR) team to Louisiana to help in the wake of Hurricane
Katrina, Public Safety Minister and Solicitor General John Les announced
today.

"We first offered our assistance yesterday and got a call late this
afternoon from the State of Louisiana that the team was needed," said Les.
"We are deeply moved by the extent of Hurricane Katrina's devastation, and
we know that the specialized HUSAR team will greatly assist
search-and-rescue efforts in some of the hardest-hit communities in that
state."

The 41-member team will leave Vancouver's South Terminal at 8 p.m. tonight
on a direct charter flight to Lafayette, Louisiana. They will be met by
Louisiana State Police, who are co-ordinating response and recovery
logistics.

Vancouver HUSAR includes 45 highly trained members who are able to conduct
rescue operations in a variety of challenging situations, including at
collapsed building sites and in fast-flowing water. Team members include:
* 32 search-and-rescue specialists;
* Two doctors and 12 paramedics;
* Four search dogs;
* Two structural engineers; and
* Eight hazardous materials technicians.

"This team of dedicated professionals has been training for 10 years for an
event of this magnitude," said Les. "The Province's response to Louisiana's
call for help will be the team's first international deployment."



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User currently offlineSchoenorama From Spain, joined Apr 2001, 2440 posts, RR: 25
Reply 12, posted (9 years 2 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 3161 times:

The only news-item I've found on non-US assistance being allowed to operate is about a Canadian team flying to the area "after officials in Louisiana asked for help." http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNew...na_template_050831?s_name=&no_ads=

I simply can't imagine this Bush Administration would commit a giant flip-flop in the form of Scottie McClellan stating in todays' White House Press Conference the Administration in NOT asking for international aid only to reverse that statement not much later.

If we had Bofredrik's source to this info, we could assess what was said (and by whom) for ourselves. As long as he fails to do so, the title of this thread is either misleading or completely false. Pitty.



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User currently offlineFlydubai From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2005, 162 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (9 years 2 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 3144 times:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/4206620.stm

Now is the time to act!!

flyDUBAI


User currently offlineArrow From Canada, joined Jun 2002, 2676 posts, RR: 2
Reply 14, posted (9 years 2 weeks 4 days ago) and read 3107 times:
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Quoting Schoenorama (Reply 12):
I simply can't imagine this Bush Administration would commit a giant flip-flop in the form of Scottie McClellan stating in todays' White House Press Conference the Administration in NOT asking for international aid only to reverse that statement not much later.

After reading McClellan's comments, I think he left himself lots of wiggle room to accommodate whatever decision is made/changed in the days to come. Is anyone really going to get bent out of shape if the US formally asks for help? I mean, c'mon -- this kind of natural disaster is unparalleled in modern US history.



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User currently offlineAgill From Sweden, joined Feb 2004, 1011 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (9 years 2 weeks 4 days ago) and read 3102 times:

Quoting Bofredrik (Reply 6):

No, i do not know in specific.
But here is a link to our Rescue Service homepage in english:

http://www.srv.se/templates/SRV_Page____622.aspx

They have mobile hospitals and a lot of special cars & trucks and ofcourse special trained dogs to find people under destroyed houses etc. Another thing that they do is to set up water cleaning machines.

But there isn't any information about that on that site??? Where did you get that information


User currently onlineEA CO AS From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 13596 posts, RR: 61
Reply 16, posted (9 years 2 weeks 4 days ago) and read 3073 times:
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Well, I for one would like to thank all of the nations that have generously offered their assistance and expertise in this time of unparalleled tragedy. It's appreciated more than you can know.


"In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem - government IS the problem." - Ronald Reagan
User currently offlineJohnboy From United States of America, joined Aug 1999, 2592 posts, RR: 7
Reply 17, posted (9 years 2 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 3060 times:

Wasn't there a snarky, whiny thread in the past couple of days about countries not offering the US any aid?

User currently offlineNosedive From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (9 years 2 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 3041 times:

Quoting Johnboy (Reply 17):
Wasn't there a snarky, whiny thread in the past couple of days about countries not offering the US any aid?

Yes, let's move past that. To aiding countries, thanks. It's awesome to see that we can be humane in this mundane world.


User currently onlineEA CO AS From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 13596 posts, RR: 61
Reply 19, posted (9 years 2 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 3039 times:
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Quoting Johnboy (Reply 17):
Wasn't there a snarky, whiny thread in the past couple of days about countries not offering the US any aid?

Yes (although not by me), probably because at that time none had been offered.

Now that it has - regardless of whether or not the Administration is wise enough to take the other nations up on their generous offer - all U.S. citizens should be thankful and grateful for the generosity of other countries willing to pitch in.



"In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem - government IS the problem." - Ronald Reagan
User currently offlineDc863 From Denmark, joined Jun 1999, 1558 posts, RR: 2
Reply 20, posted (9 years 2 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 3038 times:

For all those who will come and help, I say thank you!

User currently offlineMatt D From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 9502 posts, RR: 46
Reply 21, posted (9 years 2 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 3036 times:

If any other nation comes forward, I will issue a full apology for my comments in the other thread.

User currently offlinePetertenthije From Netherlands, joined Jul 2001, 3369 posts, RR: 12
Reply 22, posted (9 years 2 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 2990 times:

Quoting Matt D (Reply 21):
If any other nation comes forward, I will issue a full apology for my comments in the other thread.

Many nations ALREADY HAVE come forward. For now US autorities are not accepting any help because they can handle it. Rest assured, the minute the US asks for help it will come. In various nations specialists (search teams, forensic experts, water engineers) are already placed on alert that they may be going to the US on short notice.



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User currently offlineWhiteHatter From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 23, posted (9 years 2 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 2980 times:

Quoting Matt D (Reply 21):
If any other nation comes forward, I will issue a full apology for my comments in the other thread.

Jacques Chirac, who offered the USA "anything you need, just ask" in a widely reported letter which began 'dear George'. One of the first to make a public offer of any assistance they can provide.


User currently offlineNoUFO From Germany, joined Apr 2001, 7957 posts, RR: 12
Reply 24, posted (9 years 2 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 2960 times:

According to Spiegel, more than 20 countries have already offered help. Among them are wealthier nations and traditional allies like Japan and Germany as well as comparatively poor and critical countries like Venezuela.


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25 Eilennaei : Matt, FYI: international crisis assistance is by and large handled through neutral international organisations such as the International Red Cross/Cr
26 Bofredrik : I know that from other rescues that they have done.
27 Post contains links Mdsh00 : http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9161198/ Looks like they are helping, and it is nice to know that they are. Thanks world!
28 Bofredrik : I read from text-tv just now but it is in swedish so... But it say that "The White House has tonight asked for help from other countries". 20 countri
29 Searpqx : To all the individuals and nations who offer help, thank you.
30 Airbuzz : In the list Italy is not included, so here it is: ROME (AP)--Italy has offered to send aid to the U.S. and has readied two military transport planes
31 SATX : I don't think any apology from someone like you should be taken very seriously. Your statement above only helps to solidify my view. You willingly ju
32 Post contains links Carmenlu15 : Add Guatemala to the list too... http://www.europapress.es/europa2003...x?cod=20050901030320&tabID=1&ch=69 (sorry, in Spanish)
33 PA110 : Its really heartwarming to see such a worldwide outpouring of support for the victims of Katrina. Even countries devastated by the Tsunami, who can't
34 Falcon84 : Saw former Presidents Bush and Clinton on CNN today, and Mr. Clinton said that some of the nations that were devistated by the Tsunami, like Sri Lanka
35 Clipperhawaii : If help is asked for or not, help IS on the way. We Americans thank you for it.
36 Zeekiel : Excerpt from the New Zealand Herald: NZ offers hurricane help, Kiwis missing 02.09.05 1.00pm New Zealand has offered hurricane assistance to the Unite
37 MD11Engineer : Germany offered mobile water purification plants with crew from the technical branch of the German Civil Defense (THW) to prevent the spread of diseas
38 BNE : Australian government has pled $10,000,000 to the US red cross.
39 Agill : Bofredrik: Well now it seems like we offered help a few days ago but the US declined. Now since the situation have gotten so bad it seems like they ha
40 Post contains links Flydubai : http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/west_midlands/4208300.stm flydubai
41 Frequentflyer : France has resources and equipment prepositioned in their Indies Territories, and has offered help: Disaster Management experts/Military planes/Water
42 JCS17 : I was reading aftonbladet.se and around 60% of people in an online poll were OPPOSED to sending aid to the United States. That's sad.
43 Post contains links Airlinerfreak : This is a joke, America, the strongest country in the world asking foreign aid for help? Through private investors, and all of you who have decided to
44 NoUFO : Fine, but you can't eat or drink money. What the people need (among other goods) are food and drinkable water. Why would you produce new pumps and wat
45 WhiteHatter : You wretched, ungrateful bastard. People are coming as friends to offer help and support and all you can do is spit in their faces. I see from your p
46 DrDeke : I agree that it does seem, in one sense, a bit preposterous for the USA to expect monetary disaster aid from foreign countries. The USA is by far the
47 Roger136913 : Whitehatter wrote I hope you don't feel all Americans are like that poster!!!!!!!! I would like to Thank any Country that has offered any kind of help
48 Scbriml : Airlinerfreak, I suggest you watch the news. NO looks more like some 3rd World hell-hole, those people need help and they need it yesterday. Why has i
49 USAFHummer : Ditto that comment...let me be the first to assure those abroad that his radical views DO NOT represent the whole of America, and that most of the re
50 JBirdAV8r : Amen. Airlinerfreak, our country needs help. It's a HUMANITARIAN crisis, not a monetary/political/etc. one. Sure, we could get the money. These peopl
51 Airlinerfreak : Ok everyone, look at the topic of this conversation, "USA Is Asking Other Countries For Help!" We are asking for the help ladies and gentleman. Don't
52 Agill : Are you really sure about that??? The poll is about if people have understanding for those who loot. 69.9% said no.
53 Klaus : One very provisional estimate of just the monetary damage ranges around $100.000.000.000. Just to keep the orders of magnitude in perspective. And tha
54 Iakobos : Same here (I changed the flag for the occasion), B-FAST the federal disaster management teams, medical teams, wat/san equipment and logistic support p
55 NoUFO : See yesterday's poll. About 54 percent say Sweden should not help the US. The poll is certainly not a scientific, and it could only mean that the maj
56 CORULEZ05 : I must say that I agree with Airlinerfreak on this one. The United States, being the most powerful country in the world, SHOULD be able to handle this
57 Post contains links Schoenorama : There is a subtle yet very big difference between aid being offered and aid specifically being asked for by the US Government. Those in this thread th
58 Airlinerfreak : Please look up and tell me what the thread topic is. It is the case, don't go off into the what if. What if the world stopped rotating? What if the s
59 Ushermittwoch : Yeah but your country isn't able to help itself. It is too busy "helping" other nations. Frankly it is a disgusting display of the capitalistic agend
60 EddieGunsmoke : Yeah, I saw that too, and it makes me sick.
61 Petertenthije : Considering the age in your profile I will assume it is just inexperience mouthing of. Please read this carefully as it will explain the current need
62 Post contains images Ushermittwoch : Gerhard Schröder will doubt that. You are right though. But young national pride doesn't want to hear the truth, especially if Daddy's watching...
63 NoUFO : No matter what the thread topic is: The US has given no green light for any foreign help with the exception I have mentioned before. They basically s
64 Airlinerfreak : My dad is in the manufacturing business so I have been to many manufacturing facilities. We can produce needed supplies at any rate of speed we want.
65 Petertenthije : Can the suppliers of the components supply at an equal rate? Aid was offered by Sweden. And as for that online poll, well, it is just that. An online
66 B744F : I just think these age cheapshots are so weak. Please inform every historian who is studying something that happened before their life time that they
67 EddieGunsmoke : I don't doubt that the result of the poll is real. This country is full of strange people.
68 Schoenorama : I don't agree because the poster merely pointed out a weakness in the original posters' claim of knowning what it is like because he experienced a si
69 Airlinerfreak : Karel do you remember when you got your first car? Do you remember when you graduated High School? Well according to your profile that was at least 18
70 NoUFO : Airlinerfreak, I never claimed you had no idea what the victims are going through now. But I think you are waving the US American flag too much. Durin
71 ME AVN FAN : many HAVE "come forward" and are just waiting for the approval of your federal government looks as if some people in Washington still resent his stan
72 USAIRWAYS321 : There's a big difference between remembering your first car at age 16 or so and remembering the conditions of the roads or the hours that stores were
73 WiLdmanVzla : You're a complete moron!!!!!!!!!! In 1999, next to CCS we venezuelans had the worst natural disaster in our history... I had to work so hard with som
74 SKYSERVICE_330 : Apparently the Intro to Research Methodology/Pulbic Polling class at the University of North Dakota isn't up to speed. Online polls are one of the mo
75 Post contains links NoUFO : According to Spiegel, Germany will send Members of the THW - the federal disaster relief organisation - to the region affected by Katrina A first fact
76 Schoenorama : The issue isn't how long ago it was, the whole issue is what age one had when that happened. Although even at the age of 5 such an event as an earthq
77 PanHAM : You should keep this extreme left wing rubbish for yourself. This is not the time and place for America bashing when people are starving because the
78 Mdsh00 : Chill out bro. You were way too young to understand Northridge. Even I at 23 still didn't fathom the whole thing when it happened (I was 12). Northri
79 Post contains images TPAnx : Read on AP this morning that 60 countries have offered aid to the US..but that it's not known how many of those offers are being accepted. We are aski
80 Post contains links TGV : According the this article http://www.liberation.fr/page.php?Article=321470 based on Reuters news: - a plane will fly from the Martinique island to t
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