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Death Total Estimated: At Least 10,000!  
User currently offlineVanguard737 From United States of America, joined Aug 2001, 684 posts, RR: 4
Posted (9 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 1770 times:

Lousiana Senator David Vitter (R) has reportedly estimated the Lousiana dead to be at least 10,000. Absolutely terrible. Please post updates here as you here them!

We are praying for you, New Orleans.


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User currently offlineEddieGunsmoke From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (9 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 1744 times:

Damn, I never thought it would be THAT bad. Terrible, absolutely terrible.

User currently offlineBoeing Nut From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (9 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 1719 times:

Hold the phone on the final tally folks. It may not be nearly that bad. 9/11 casualties were estimated at nearly 25,000 in the hours following the attacks and didn't turn out to be nearly that.

User currently offlineL-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29836 posts, RR: 58
Reply 3, posted (9 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 1712 times:

Yeah, I definately would take that estimate with a big grain of salt.


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User currently offlineVanguard737 From United States of America, joined Aug 2001, 684 posts, RR: 4
Reply 4, posted (9 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 1712 times:

Very good point, Boeing nut!

Lets hope you're right



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User currently offlineAsstChiefMark From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (9 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 1699 times:

On Tuesday, I said 10,000. I'm sticking to that number.

$40 billion in damage, too.

Mark


User currently offlineEvan767 From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 2957 posts, RR: 2
Reply 6, posted (9 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 1682 times:

Don't forget all the diseases to follow. ie. Hiroshima


The proper term is "on final" not "on finals" bud...
User currently offlineEddieGunsmoke From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (9 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 1669 times:

I don't think Hiroshima should be compared to this.

User currently offlineSTLGph From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 9518 posts, RR: 26
Reply 8, posted (9 years 3 months 3 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 1650 times:

Quoting EddieGunsmoke (Reply 7):
I don't think Hiroshima should be compared to this.

he's not talking about Hiroshima itself. he's talking about the spread of disease. that's raw sewage these people are wading in.

West Nile Virus will soon be minute compared to Mississippi Delta Virus.



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User currently offlineEddieGunsmoke From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (9 years 3 months 3 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 1619 times:

I understand. I was refering to the radiation that took so many lifes. If you count that as a disease. But I understand what he meant now.

User currently offlineDoona From Sweden, joined Feb 2005, 3772 posts, RR: 13
Reply 10, posted (9 years 3 months 3 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 1594 times:

Quoting STLGph (Reply 8):
he's not talking about Hiroshima itself. he's talking about the spread of disease. that's raw sewage these people are wading in.

I hate to say it, but it isn't only sewage that spreads disease. The Hiroshima reference is about dead bodies spreading all sorts of diseases I think, but please correct me if I'm wrong. Same problem in SE Asia after the Tsunami hit.

Mats



Sure, we're concerned for our lives. Just not as concerned as saving 9 bucks on a roundtrip to Ft. Myers.
User currently offlineLijnden From United States of America, joined Apr 2003, 566 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (9 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 1534 times:
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Just saw the official numbers of dead on the news in all regions to be at 479. I am sure it will rise. Media often blow up numbers to gain viewers.


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User currently offlineAsstChiefMark From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (9 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 1520 times:

Quoting Lijnden (Reply 11):
Media often blow up numbers to gain viewers.

I see the opposite.

They could show on live TV a fullly-loaded 747 nosedive into the ground in a fireball and a minute later say, "We don't know if there are any injuries. Let's hope that everyone made it out safely."

Mark


User currently offlineEZEIZA From Argentina, joined Aug 2004, 4968 posts, RR: 25
Reply 13, posted (9 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 1507 times:

Quoting Boeing Nut (Reply 2):
Hold the phone on the final tally folks. It may not be nearly that bad. 9/11 casualties were estimated at nearly 25,000 in the hours following the attacks and didn't turn out to be nearly that.

i remember that the estimates were even higher after 9/11. i think maybe it is also a morale issue. Estimate a lot so the final number does not seem that high in comparison

In any case I as well did not realize Katrina's effects were so bad.
I can't understand though all the violence around there being reported  Sad

my thoughts are with the victims



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User currently offlineBobster2 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (9 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 1501 times:

Quoting Lijnden (Reply 11):
Media often blow up numbers to gain viewers.

After 9/11 the official numbers were way high and it was the media who first got the correct estimates.

The newspapers did their own investigations by contacting survivors and the businesses operating in the WTC, and they accounted for about 2,000 victims when the "official" number was about double that. Eventually the official numbers came down and they were close to what the newspapers said.


User currently offlineN229NW From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 1972 posts, RR: 31
Reply 15, posted (9 years 3 months 3 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 1473 times:

This is a terrible disaster. My thoughts to all the victims.


It's people like you what cause unrest!
User currently offlineME AVN FAN From Switzerland, joined May 2002, 13920 posts, RR: 25
Reply 16, posted (9 years 3 months 3 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 1454 times:

I do NOT understand that Senator. While it is becoming obvious that there are thousands of people dead, it is not the time to speak about "totals". What earlier on in Miami looked like a "usual" hurricane now has become a big-scale disaster, but to talk about "totals" reduces the victims to NUMBERS .

User currently offlineDoona From Sweden, joined Feb 2005, 3772 posts, RR: 13
Reply 17, posted (9 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 1400 times:

Quoting EZEIZA (Reply 13):
i remember that the estimates were even higher after 9/11. i think maybe it is also a morale issue. Estimate a lot so the final number does not seem that high in comparison

Standard procedure. Estimate too little, and people will jump up and down on your head because you didn't have a firm grasp on the situation. Estimate too much, while people may think you're a little stupid, they will still be relieved.

Cheers
Mats



Sure, we're concerned for our lives. Just not as concerned as saving 9 bucks on a roundtrip to Ft. Myers.
User currently offlineLTBEWR From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 13198 posts, RR: 15
Reply 18, posted (9 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 1373 times:

I wouldn't be surprised of numbers exceeding 10,000 total dead from Katrina, once house to house searches of New Orleans, other devestated areas in the affected region are searched after flooding subsides and cleanup begins. In the meantime, you have many 1,000's with pre-existing diseases and illnesses that died do to a lack of medical care they needed on an ongoing basis or emergency care. You have whom knows how many people whom got trapped in their homes, including in the attics, are handicapped and couldn't move fast enough to evacuate, couldn't be removed from them earlier and have died. Some here commented that with 9/11, just at the WTC site, officials and media estimated that day and for a few following days, there could have been 10,000 killed. Fortuntally, the time of day, a very high percentage of escapes below the impacted floors, reviews of those considered missing, later reduced the numbers to the 2,900 at that site.
The next 2-3 months will be terrible. We may also see many thousands indirectly dead in this disaster from disease, injuries, limited access to medical care, no health insurance, or killing themselves from the stress to their bodies and minds.


User currently offlineAloges From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 8765 posts, RR: 42
Reply 19, posted (9 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 1362 times:

Once again, this whole thing feels strange; just like after the tsunami. Of course I feel for the victims, and wish them all the best, but to a certain degree I feel unconnected. I've never been to New Orleans (like I had never been to Thailand etc. when the tsunami hit) but have only heard how great the city is/was; same for Thailand and the other cuntries, again.

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User currently offlineME AVN FAN From Switzerland, joined May 2002, 13920 posts, RR: 25
Reply 20, posted (9 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 1303 times:

Quoting Aloges (Reply 19):
I've never been to New Orleans

I have been to that great city three times, and feel with the city and its folks. It in fact is my favourite. I therefore look forward to its revival.


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