Vanguard737 From United States of America, joined Aug 2001, 673 posts, RR: 5 Posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 1317 times:
Lousiana Senator David Vitter (R) has reportedly estimated the Lousiana dead to be at least 10,000. Absolutely terrible. Please post updates here as you here them!
Boeing Nut From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 2, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 1266 times:
Hold the phone on the final tally folks. It may not be nearly that bad. 9/11 casualties were estimated at nearly 25,000 in the hours following the attacks and didn't turn out to be nearly that.
L-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29349 posts, RR: 62 Reply 3, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 1259 times:
Yeah, I definately would take that estimate with a big grain of salt.
OBAMA-WORST PRESIDENT EVER....Even SKOORB would be better.
Vanguard737 From United States of America, joined Aug 2001, 673 posts, RR: 5 Reply 4, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 1259 times:
Evan767 From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 2957 posts, RR: 2 Reply 6, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 1229 times:
Don't forget all the diseases to follow. ie. Hiroshima
The proper term is "on final" not "on finals" bud...
STLGph From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 8976 posts, RR: 28 Reply 8, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 1197 times:
Quoting EddieGunsmoke (Reply 7): I don't think Hiroshima should be compared to this.
he's not talking about Hiroshima itself. he's talking about the spread of disease. that's raw sewage these people are wading in.
West Nile Virus will soon be minute compared to Mississippi Delta Virus.
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Doona From Sweden, joined Feb 2005, 3706 posts, RR: 14 Reply 10, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 1141 times:
Quoting STLGph (Reply 8): he's not talking about Hiroshima itself. he's talking about the spread of disease. that's raw sewage these people are wading in.
I hate to say it, but it isn't only sewage that spreads disease. The Hiroshima reference is about dead bodies spreading all sorts of diseases I think, but please correct me if I'm wrong. Same problem in SE Asia after the Tsunami hit.
Mats
Sure, we're concerned for our lives. Just not as concerned as saving 9 bucks on a roundtrip to Ft. Myers.
AsstChiefMark From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 12, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days ago) and read 1067 times:
Quoting Lijnden (Reply 11): Media often blow up numbers to gain viewers.
I see the opposite.
They could show on live TV a fullly-loaded 747 nosedive into the ground in a fireball and a minute later say, "We don't know if there are any injuries. Let's hope that everyone made it out safely."
EZEIZA From Argentina, joined Aug 2004, 4929 posts, RR: 28 Reply 13, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days ago) and read 1054 times:
Quoting Boeing Nut (Reply 2): Hold the phone on the final tally folks. It may not be nearly that bad. 9/11 casualties were estimated at nearly 25,000 in the hours following the attacks and didn't turn out to be nearly that.
i remember that the estimates were even higher after 9/11. i think maybe it is also a morale issue. Estimate a lot so the final number does not seem that high in comparison
In any case I as well did not realize Katrina's effects were so bad.
I can't understand though all the violence around there being reported
Bobster2 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 14, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days ago) and read 1048 times:
Quoting Lijnden (Reply 11): Media often blow up numbers to gain viewers.
After 9/11 the official numbers were way high and it was the media who first got the correct estimates.
The newspapers did their own investigations by contacting survivors and the businesses operating in the WTC, and they accounted for about 2,000 victims when the "official" number was about double that. Eventually the official numbers came down and they were close to what the newspapers said.
ME AVN FAN From Switzerland, joined May 2002, 13872 posts, RR: 28 Reply 16, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 1001 times:
I do NOT understand that Senator. While it is becoming obvious that there are thousands of people dead, it is not the time to speak about "totals". What earlier on in Miami looked like a "usual" hurricane now has become a big-scale disaster, but to talk about "totals" reduces the victims to NUMBERS .
Doona From Sweden, joined Feb 2005, 3706 posts, RR: 14 Reply 17, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 947 times:
Quoting EZEIZA (Reply 13): i remember that the estimates were even higher after 9/11. i think maybe it is also a morale issue. Estimate a lot so the final number does not seem that high in comparison
Standard procedure. Estimate too little, and people will jump up and down on your head because you didn't have a firm grasp on the situation. Estimate too much, while people may think you're a little stupid, they will still be relieved.
Cheers
Mats
Sure, we're concerned for our lives. Just not as concerned as saving 9 bucks on a roundtrip to Ft. Myers.
LTBEWR From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 12326 posts, RR: 12 Reply 18, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 920 times:
I wouldn't be surprised of numbers exceeding 10,000 total dead from Katrina, once house to house searches of New Orleans, other devestated areas in the affected region are searched after flooding subsides and cleanup begins. In the meantime, you have many 1,000's with pre-existing diseases and illnesses that died do to a lack of medical care they needed on an ongoing basis or emergency care. You have whom knows how many people whom got trapped in their homes, including in the attics, are handicapped and couldn't move fast enough to evacuate, couldn't be removed from them earlier and have died. Some here commented that with 9/11, just at the WTC site, officials and media estimated that day and for a few following days, there could have been 10,000 killed. Fortuntally, the time of day, a very high percentage of escapes below the impacted floors, reviews of those considered missing, later reduced the numbers to the 2,900 at that site.
The next 2-3 months will be terrible. We may also see many thousands indirectly dead in this disaster from disease, injuries, limited access to medical care, no health insurance, or killing themselves from the stress to their bodies and minds.
Aloges From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 8351 posts, RR: 47 Reply 19, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 909 times:
Once again, this whole thing feels strange; just like after the tsunami. Of course I feel for the victims, and wish them all the best, but to a certain degree I feel unconnected. I've never been to New Orleans (like I had never been to Thailand etc. when the tsunami hit) but have only heard how great the city is/was; same for Thailand and the other cuntries, again.
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