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AR National Guard Order: 'Shoot To Kill' Hoodlums  
User currently offlineVanguard737 From United States of America, joined Aug 2001, 680 posts, RR: 4
Posted (8 years 7 months 3 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 1665 times:

LA Senator Kathleen Blanco (D) confirms, 300 Arkansas National Guard have arived in New Orleans with orders to shoot-to-kill hoodlums.

The situation is serious, is an understatement!

http://www.news.com.au/story/0,10117,16466908-23109,00.html


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User currently offlineBofredrik From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (8 years 7 months 3 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 1656 times:

I hope they do not kill people that go in to food stores as they have no option if they are going to live. This is a example how a state like USA, with a small federal sector, stands without all needed in this situation. And a lot of people fron National Guard is in Iraq...

User currently offlineStevenUhl777 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (8 years 7 months 3 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 1649 times:

Quoting Vanguard737 (Thread starter):
LA Senator Kathleen Blanco (D)

She's the Governor, not a US Senator. Mary Landrieu and _______ are the two US Senators.

Regarding the hoodlums:

Say hi to my gatlin' gun!

Signed,
US Army Apache helicopters


User currently offlineCurtisMan From Canada, joined Jun 2005, 1001 posts, RR: 50
Reply 3, posted (8 years 7 months 3 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 1649 times:

Terribly terribly sad.

What a horrible situation. I am saddened for all of the affected people who don't know how to deal with the stress and the pressures put on them... everyone from the people on the streets to the people in the government. I hope the government of the USA is not as daft and evil as depcited in these articles that they would kill their own people.



Victims of the hurricane - my prayers are with you.
Government of the USA - my prayers are with you.

Here is a link to a Canadian site:

http://www.mytelus.com/news/article....ageID=world_home&articleID=2020116

[Edited 2005-09-02 21:32:07]


Citizen of the World
User currently offlineCheckraiser From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (8 years 7 months 3 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 1637 times:

Quoting Bofredrik (Reply 1):
I hope they do not kill people that go in to food stores as they have no option if they are going to live. This is a example how a state like USA, with a small federal sector, stands without all needed in this situation. And a lot of people fron National Guard is in Iraq...

They're not there shooting people getting food. They'll be shooting people who have guns, are burning buildings, killing, raping and carjacking.


User currently offlineL-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29706 posts, RR: 59
Reply 5, posted (8 years 7 months 3 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 1630 times:

Shoot to Kill?

We didn't even give that order to our troops in Iraq.

All they could do with looters in Bagdad was strip them down naked and make them walk home.



OBAMA-WORST PRESIDENT EVER....Even SKOORB would be better.
User currently offlineFlyingTexan From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (8 years 7 months 3 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 1615 times:

Quoting StevenUhl777 (Reply 2):
Mary Landrieu and _______ are the two US Senators.

Republican David Vitter.


User currently offlineBofredrik From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (8 years 7 months 3 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 1608 times:

Shoot poor people who are looking for food and water?

User currently offlineVanguard737 From United States of America, joined Aug 2001, 680 posts, RR: 4
Reply 8, posted (8 years 7 months 3 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 1594 times:

Quoting Bofredrik (Reply 7):
Shoot poor people who are looking for food and water?

Theyre NOT shooting poor people looking for food, as already said if you look earlier in the post. hey are shooting rapists, murderers, carjackers, shooters, etc!



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User currently offlineNewark777 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 9348 posts, RR: 30
Reply 9, posted (8 years 7 months 3 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 1591 times:

Quoting Bofredrik (Reply 7):
Shoot poor people who are looking for food and water?

I'm sure they are differenciating between starving people looking for resources and armed "hoodlums" looting the city.

Harry



Why grab a Heine when you can grab a Busch?
User currently offlineANCFlyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (8 years 7 months 3 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 1561 times:

It's about time they finally issued a Rule of Engagement that makes sense . . .

"Fire for Effect".

Better to issue that order now instead of AFTER a dozen guardsman are killed because they've been ordered to hold their fire . . . anyone remember LA? Send in the National Guard without bullets? WTF?

Good call Governor - by the way, where the hell is the Governor?


User currently offlineTedTAce From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (8 years 7 months 3 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 1547 times:

Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 10):
where the hell is the Governor?

With the President Big grin


User currently offlineANCFlyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (8 years 7 months 3 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 1544 times:

Quoting TedTAce (Reply 11):
With the President

I'm stuck without live TV at the moment? Are they in NOLA yet or still in Biloxi?


User currently offlineCfalk From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (8 years 7 months 3 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 1538 times:

Some people are indeed only trying to get food. Fine, I can understand that. But the favorite targets seem to be jewelry and electronics stores. That is plain and simple theft, and those people should be shot.

I just ask the troops to make sure that the guy is carrying a TV set and not cans of food before drilling him.

Charles


User currently offlineJ.mo From United States of America, joined Feb 2002, 656 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (8 years 7 months 3 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 1520 times:

I don't think Smokes, Guns and TV's are too essential. Shoot to kill these idiots.  thumbsup 


What is the difference between Fighter pilots and God? God never thought he was a fighter pilot.
User currently offlinePhotopilot From Canada, joined Jul 2002, 2642 posts, RR: 18
Reply 15, posted (8 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 1494 times:

Hmmmm..... Didn't the British Cops have the same order.... and look who got shot. An innocent person minding his own business who happened to be cold and was wearing a jacket.

How many innocents are going to be killed in NO because of Bubba Guardsman with a Hunting License?

Innocent until PROVEN Guilty. Not with Bubba Redneck on patrol.


User currently offlineVanguard737 From United States of America, joined Aug 2001, 680 posts, RR: 4
Reply 16, posted (8 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 1486 times:

Photopilot

Your a stereotyping ass. I think there is a difference between shooting a random guy on a calm subway train ans shooting a guy in the middle of a destrtoyed city as he holds an AK-47 and roams through the street. your comment are uncalled for. stay out of america's business



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User currently offlineANCFlyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (8 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 1479 times:

Quoting Photopilot (Reply 15):

Guess those hoodlum assholes better put down those shopping carts full of VCRs, park those Oldsmobiles with the trunks full of beer, and quit shooting at the ambulances trying to evac people from a hospital, and quit taking pot shots at helos trying to save their stupid asses, eh?


User currently offlineAviationmaster From Switzerland, joined Oct 1999, 2473 posts, RR: 35
Reply 18, posted (8 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 1470 times:

"Hmmmm..... Didn't the British Cops have the same order.... and look who got shot. An innocent person minding his own business who happened to be cold and was wearing a jacket.

How many innocents are going to be killed in NO because of Bubba Guardsman with a Hunting License?

Innocent until PROVEN Guilty. Not with Bubba Redneck on patrol."


First off, you are comparing apples with oranges here, the mission here is totally different to the ongoing one in the UK. Secondly, get real, you can't just walk up to a guy who is holding up a gun and tell him to put down.

The individuals that deserve to be shot, are the ones that are looting just for their personal gain and not stealing things because they are absolutely necessary for survival, or shooting at helicopters, while these are trying to rescue people, threatening police officers and other rescue personnel, while they are just trying to safe a few lifes.


User currently offlineB757300 From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 4114 posts, RR: 23
Reply 19, posted (8 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 1466 times:



In 1906 they weren't concerned with the rights of looters.



"There is no victory at bargain basement prices."
User currently offlineArkhem From Ghana, joined Jul 2004, 128 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (8 years 7 months 3 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 1438 times:

Quoting B757300 (Reply 19):
In 1906 they weren't concerned with the rights of looters.

In 1906 they hung blacks (perhaps the n-word is more appropriate) from trees.

Absolutely pathetic...Lt. Gen. Honore actually had to tell guardsmen, "Point your weapons down, this is not Iraq."

http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/09/02/katrina.impact/index.html


User currently offlineBHMBAGLOCK From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 2698 posts, RR: 5
Reply 21, posted (8 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 1428 times:

A couple days after Andrew, several looters were shot in the leg and ass one night. It was easy to tell the looters as they were out after curfew carrying TVs and other booty. Amazingly enough, looting wasn't much of a problem after that. Unfortunately, things may have progressed too far for such a deterrent to be effective in NO at the moment.


Where are all of my respected members going?
User currently offlineLijnden From Philippines, joined Apr 2003, 559 posts, RR: 1
Reply 22, posted (8 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 1421 times:
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Maybe it is not Iraq but it looks more like tribal war like they have in Somalia. Go and tell innocent until proven guilty to the victims of these hoodlums.


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User currently offlineOttoPylit From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 23, posted (8 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 1411 times:

We need more Governors with cajones like this and more military leaders like Lt. Gen. Hanore.

My orders would have been simple. If you are carrying a weapon or have anything in your hands that is not yours besides food, you will recieve a bullet wound, courtesy of the United States Army. Not only that, you also get put at the bottom of the treatment list at the nearest hospital. Better hope you don't bleed to death in the process. Its acts like this that actually make people think before doing stupid things like that.

Lets not forget, this is the National Guard, which recieves it's orders directly from the governor unless the President activates them to active service.



OttoPylit


User currently offlineTrijetFan1 From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 1128 posts, RR: 7
Reply 24, posted (8 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 1404 times:
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Quoting Arkhem (Reply 20):
Quoting B757300 (Reply 19):
In 1906 they weren't concerned with the rights of looters.


In 1906 they hung blacks (perhaps the n-word is more appropriate) from trees.

Absolutely pathetic...Lt. Gen. Honore actually had to tell guardsmen, "Point your weapons down, this is not Iraq."

These "people"/beasts/gang members are raping, carjacking, and killing others. They are terrorists!



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25 Photopilot : Well lets see now. There was an 18 year old black kid they interviewed on CNN today. He went and STOLE a big yellow schoolbus. He's never driven a bus
26 Halls120 : I agree. But for the thugs that raping defenseless women and children, the thugs that are shooting at hospital workers, the thugs that are stealing g
27 MD-90 : That's not surprising in the least.
28 Post contains images SATX : Why even have a justice system at all? If it's so easy to instantly tell who's right and who's wrong, just send in the guard and clense the country o
29 Falcon84 : How many innocents in NOLA have been killed because the Crips and the Bloods have armed themselves to the teeth, and are raping and looting their way
30 DL021 : I'm certainly not defending the people looting tvs and booze, but I do want to point out that shoot on sight orders are no longer acceptable in our so
31 Falcon84 : Individuals, perhaps, but if it's one of these roaming gangs of thugs, I don't think you'd have a chance to give a warning, lest a guradsman take his
32 Kanebear : That's great. Then there's the idiots who want to turn the city into their own personal fiefdom and go shooting at volunteer rescuers, cops, etc etc.
33 ANCFlyer : Doesn't work that way . . . firing a round - even a warning shot - escalates the situation . . . fire that warning shot and you're in the middle of a
34 Alessandro : Seem like many are more concerned about property than human lives, no risk starting shooting in an urban area and hit other people, get real...
35 EA CO AS : You made that part up. Just stop.
36 AvObserver : "These "people"/beasts/gang members are raping, carjacking, and killing others. They are terrorists!" Probably not in quite the same way, I doubt they
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