Bofredrik From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 1, posted (7 years 8 months 3 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 1246 times:
I hope they do not kill people that go in to food stores as they have no option if they are going to live. This is a example how a state like USA, with a small federal sector, stands without all needed in this situation. And a lot of people fron National Guard is in Iraq...
CurtisMan From Canada, joined Jun 2005, 996 posts, RR: 52 Reply 3, posted (7 years 8 months 3 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 1239 times:
Terribly terribly sad.
What a horrible situation. I am saddened for all of the affected people who don't know how to deal with the stress and the pressures put on them... everyone from the people on the streets to the people in the government. I hope the government of the USA is not as daft and evil as depcited in these articles that they would kill their own people.
Victims of the hurricane - my prayers are with you.
Government of the USA - my prayers are with you.
Checkraiser From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 4, posted (7 years 8 months 3 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 1227 times:
Quoting Bofredrik (Reply 1): I hope they do not kill people that go in to food stores as they have no option if they are going to live. This is a example how a state like USA, with a small federal sector, stands without all needed in this situation. And a lot of people fron National Guard is in Iraq...
They're not there shooting people getting food. They'll be shooting people who have guns, are burning buildings, killing, raping and carjacking.
L-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29350 posts, RR: 62 Reply 5, posted (7 years 8 months 3 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 1220 times:
Shoot to Kill?
We didn't even give that order to our troops in Iraq.
All they could do with looters in Bagdad was strip them down naked and make them walk home.
OBAMA-WORST PRESIDENT EVER....Even SKOORB would be better.
Vanguard737 From United States of America, joined Aug 2001, 674 posts, RR: 5 Reply 8, posted (7 years 8 months 3 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 1184 times:
Quoting Bofredrik (Reply 7): Shoot poor people who are looking for food and water?
Theyre NOT shooting poor people looking for food, as already said if you look earlier in the post. hey are shooting rapists, murderers, carjackers, shooters, etc!
Newark777 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 9348 posts, RR: 33 Reply 9, posted (7 years 8 months 3 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 1181 times:
Quoting Bofredrik (Reply 7): Shoot poor people who are looking for food and water?
I'm sure they are differenciating between starving people looking for resources and armed "hoodlums" looting the city.
ANCFlyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 10, posted (7 years 8 months 3 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 1151 times:
It's about time they finally issued a Rule of Engagement that makes sense . . .
"Fire for Effect".
Better to issue that order now instead of AFTER a dozen guardsman are killed because they've been ordered to hold their fire . . . anyone remember LA? Send in the National Guard without bullets? WTF?
Good call Governor - by the way, where the hell is the Governor?
Cfalk From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 13, posted (7 years 8 months 3 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 1128 times:
Some people are indeed only trying to get food. Fine, I can understand that. But the favorite targets seem to be jewelry and electronics stores. That is plain and simple theft, and those people should be shot.
I just ask the troops to make sure that the guy is carrying a TV set and not cans of food before drilling him.
J.mo From United States of America, joined Feb 2002, 640 posts, RR: 1 Reply 14, posted (7 years 8 months 3 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 1110 times:
I don't think Smokes, Guns and TV's are too essential. Shoot to kill these idiots.
What is the difference between Fighter pilots and God? God never thought he was a fighter pilot.
Photopilot From Cuba, joined Jul 2002, 2439 posts, RR: 20 Reply 15, posted (7 years 8 months 3 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 1084 times:
Hmmmm..... Didn't the British Cops have the same order.... and look who got shot. An innocent person minding his own business who happened to be cold and was wearing a jacket.
How many innocents are going to be killed in NO because of Bubba Guardsman with a Hunting License?
Innocent until PROVEN Guilty. Not with Bubba Redneck on patrol.
Vanguard737 From United States of America, joined Aug 2001, 674 posts, RR: 5 Reply 16, posted (7 years 8 months 3 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 1076 times:
Photopilot
Your a stereotyping ass. I think there is a difference between shooting a random guy on a calm subway train ans shooting a guy in the middle of a destrtoyed city as he holds an AK-47 and roams through the street. your comment are uncalled for. stay out of america's business
Guess those hoodlum assholes better put down those shopping carts full of VCRs, park those Oldsmobiles with the trunks full of beer, and quit shooting at the ambulances trying to evac people from a hospital, and quit taking pot shots at helos trying to save their stupid asses, eh?
Aviationmaster From Switzerland, joined Oct 1999, 2464 posts, RR: 38 Reply 18, posted (7 years 8 months 3 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 1060 times:
"Hmmmm..... Didn't the British Cops have the same order.... and look who got shot. An innocent person minding his own business who happened to be cold and was wearing a jacket.
How many innocents are going to be killed in NO because of Bubba Guardsman with a Hunting License?
Innocent until PROVEN Guilty. Not with Bubba Redneck on patrol."
First off, you are comparing apples with oranges here, the mission here is totally different to the ongoing one in the UK. Secondly, get real, you can't just walk up to a guy who is holding up a gun and tell him to put down.
The individuals that deserve to be shot, are the ones that are looting just for their personal gain and not stealing things because they are absolutely necessary for survival, or shooting at helicopters, while these are trying to rescue people, threatening police officers and other rescue personnel, while they are just trying to safe a few lifes.
B757300 From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 4114 posts, RR: 25 Reply 19, posted (7 years 8 months 3 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 1056 times:
In 1906 they weren't concerned with the rights of looters.
BHMBAGLOCK From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 2698 posts, RR: 5 Reply 21, posted (7 years 8 months 3 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 1018 times:
A couple days after Andrew, several looters were shot in the leg and ass one night. It was easy to tell the looters as they were out after curfew carrying TVs and other booty. Amazingly enough, looting wasn't much of a problem after that. Unfortunately, things may have progressed too far for such a deterrent to be effective in NO at the moment.
Lijnden From Netherlands, joined Apr 2003, 557 posts, RR: 1 Reply 22, posted (7 years 8 months 3 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 1011 times:
Maybe it is not Iraq but it looks more like tribal war like they have in Somalia. Go and tell innocent until proven guilty to the victims of these hoodlums.
OttoPylit From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 23, posted (7 years 8 months 3 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 1001 times:
We need more Governors with cajones like this and more military leaders like Lt. Gen. Hanore.
My orders would have been simple. If you are carrying a weapon or have anything in your hands that is not yours besides food, you will recieve a bullet wound, courtesy of the United States Army. Not only that, you also get put at the bottom of the treatment list at the nearest hospital. Better hope you don't bleed to death in the process. Its acts like this that actually make people think before doing stupid things like that.
Lets not forget, this is the National Guard, which recieves it's orders directly from the governor unless the President activates them to active service.
TrijetFan1 From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 1128 posts, RR: 8 Reply 24, posted (7 years 8 months 3 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 994 times:
Quoting Arkhem (Reply 20): Quoting B757300 (Reply 19):
In 1906 they weren't concerned with the rights of looters.
In 1906 they hung blacks (perhaps the n-word is more appropriate) from trees.
Absolutely pathetic...Lt. Gen. Honore actually had to tell guardsmen, "Point your weapons down, this is not Iraq."
These "people"/beasts/gang members are raping, carjacking, and killing others. They are terrorists!
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25 Photopilot: Well lets see now. There was an 18 year old black kid they interviewed on CNN today. He went and STOLE a big yellow schoolbus. He's never driven a bus
26 Halls120: I agree. But for the thugs that raping defenseless women and children, the thugs that are shooting at hospital workers, the thugs that are stealing g
28 SATX: Why even have a justice system at all? If it's so easy to instantly tell who's right and who's wrong, just send in the guard and clense the country o
29 Falcon84: How many innocents in NOLA have been killed because the Crips and the Bloods have armed themselves to the teeth, and are raping and looting their way
30 DL021: I'm certainly not defending the people looting tvs and booze, but I do want to point out that shoot on sight orders are no longer acceptable in our so
31 Falcon84: Individuals, perhaps, but if it's one of these roaming gangs of thugs, I don't think you'd have a chance to give a warning, lest a guradsman take his
32 Kanebear: That's great. Then there's the idiots who want to turn the city into their own personal fiefdom and go shooting at volunteer rescuers, cops, etc etc.
33 ANCFlyer: Doesn't work that way . . . firing a round - even a warning shot - escalates the situation . . . fire that warning shot and you're in the middle of a
34 Alessandro: Seem like many are more concerned about property than human lives, no risk starting shooting in an urban area and hit other people, get real...
36 AvObserver: "These "people"/beasts/gang members are raping, carjacking, and killing others. They are terrorists!" Probably not in quite the same way, I doubt they