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"George Bush Doesn't Care About Black People"  
User currently offlineTedTAce From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day ago) and read 4528 times:

I was watching the NBC Special event and this African American guy with Mike Meyers just stated the above quote.

What Has W ALLOWED to happen to already crappy Race relations????

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User currently offlineRoger136913 From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 473 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day ago) and read 4504 times:

It appears that it's racial that the blacks were left behind in the city.....

Not sure of the African American who was just on Fox News but he said this is all racial.... Though he did not blame Bush, just said it's racial. He blamed it was racial that Police Officers allowed people to loot for food and clothes but when asked about TV's he said he saw nothing wrong with it????

He said Blacks were being called refugees and not whites???????????

I never heard anyone state a skin color when referring to the people as refugees today. But he felt it was for Blacks only??????????????

People have lost their sanity..............................................


User currently offlineDL021 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 11446 posts, RR: 76
Reply 2, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day ago) and read 4495 times:
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That's a load of crap, and the asses who are trying to play some race card are simply using this situation to try and make noise for their own agenda.

President Bush is not responsible for the fact that the city is predominately black, nor that people stayed in the face of the oncoming hurricane.



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User currently offlineME AVN FAN From Switzerland, joined May 2002, 13920 posts, RR: 25
Reply 3, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day ago) and read 4495 times:

THIS is what I feared might come up earlier or later ! it is the very last thing your nation needs. While I do NOT particularily love your president I do NOT believe that he is a racist. And his job is NOT to care about Whites, Blacks, Yellows or whomever, but about his nation and about people. It of course is obvious that exactly the area affected has apparent Black majorities, and so, any problems or insufficiencies inevitably will get explained by some people with this matter. I anyway on four visits to the USA never really understood that aspect. That people can be lighter or darker skinned, have broader or thinner noses, etc, is just nature, some things can be changed by sun or healthcare or cosmetics while others remain. I do NOT say that racism is a "privilege" of the USA. So I hope that Mr Bush manages to calm down matters now.

User currently offlineTedTAce From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day ago) and read 4491 times:

Quoting Roger136913 (Reply 1):
I never heard anyone state a skin color when referring to the people as refugees today. But he felt it was for Blacks only??????????????

That was another point the guy who made the quote passed on he said the 'media refered to the black as looters and the whites as looking for food'


User currently offlineSabena332 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day ago) and read 4478 times:

Quoting DL021 (Reply 2):
President Bush is not responsible for the fact that the city is predominately black

Exactly! Would people say "George Bush Doesn't Care About White People" when this had happened to a city with white people in the majority or "George Bush Doesn't Care About Hispanic People" when this had happened to a city with hispanic people in the majority?

No, certainly not!

I am not a Bush fan but I think that this is just another way to stir the pot and to bash Bush.

Patrick


User currently offlineTPASXM787 From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 1730 posts, RR: 20
Reply 6, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day ago) and read 4460 times:

It is just another way to bash him.

Like this morning, for some godawful reason I was listening to CNN on XM, and that douchebag Miles O'Brien (must have been a big Star Trek fan when he picked his fake tv name) was totally asking leading questions go get a man to bash the President...I was actually somewhat surprised at how blatant it was.



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User currently offlineRoger136913 From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 473 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day ago) and read 4453 times:

Sorry Ted other then that I can't why they are staying he is racial....

I know the CBC were not happy and I thought at one point they were going to say it was racial. The CBC did state this earlier on TV.

Members of the Congressional Black Caucus, along with members of the Black Leadership Forum, National Conference of State Legislators, National Urban League and the NAACP charged that the response was slow because those most affected are poor.


User currently offlineLogan22L From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day ago) and read 4446 times:

There are sufficeint reasons to bash Bush without playing the race card.

I saw an interview just a couple of hours ago on NBC national news with an African American stranded in NO who vehemently denied any racial issue. He "pointed to" many whites who were stuck there just as he was. And yes, if a city has a greater percentage of non-whites, then this issue always has the potential for surfacing.

Also in that story was a white guy who had spraypainted his car with white crosses and "AID" messages. He was going around and admitting to looting food, water, and other necessities and driving it to people in need, of any race. Now there's good looting and bad looting, and this sounds like good looting to me. I'd do the same.


User currently offlineFlybulldog From United States of America, joined Aug 2000, 368 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day ago) and read 4444 times:

I think the thing that blacks are angry about is the fact that the news media is full of images of nothing but blacks looting and shooting at the rescuers. The white people are shown on TV as much more compassionate. I'm not taking sides, I'm just commenting on what I see on TV.

User currently offlineRoger136913 From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 473 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day ago) and read 4431 times:

Food and medicine was allowed to be looted, it was reported that Police broke into stores for food and medicine and allowed people in.

I think the looting many are frowning on is TV's and items not needed to survive.


User currently offlineTedTAce From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day ago) and read 4408 times:

For those who say this thread is about bashing Bush two points:

1. I was just reporting what was said, and it's boldness on national TV shocked even me.
2. Name one piece of legislation that Bush has signed that has directly and positively helped urban African Americans.


User currently offlineLogan22L From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day ago) and read 4408 times:

Quoting Flybulldog (Reply 9):
I think the thing that blacks are angry about is the fact that the news media is full of images of nothing but blacks looting and shooting at the rescuers. The white people are shown on TV as much more compassionate. I'm not taking sides, I'm just commenting on what I see on TV.

You know, that may be true; it wouldn't surprise me, but I wonder if you're talking about NBC, CBS, and ABC, or some of the more recent "cavalier" networks. Most of what I've seen seems pretty fair. Don't forget, NO is a city of predominantly African American inhabitants, so it's not easy to show a 1:1 ratio of good vs. evil acts.

To be honest, I've watched some footage, but it hurts too much to just keep it on all the time. I feel I can do more through donation and I'm trying to get in touch with support operations to donate something more important: my time and knowledge in the areas of drinking water quality and hazardous materials response. Right now, they need militia with guns to clear out the assholes, and supplies to help the victims, but in the next few weeks and months, as things begin to clear up, there'll be a need for people with some skills to help out without having to pay everyone.


User currently offlineME AVN FAN From Switzerland, joined May 2002, 13920 posts, RR: 25
Reply 13, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 4388 times:

Quoting Sabena332 (Reply 5):
this is just another way to stir the pot and to bash Bush

I usually LOVE "GWB-bashing" but this time "do NOT feel amused".

Quoting Flybulldog (Reply 9):
the fact that the news media is full of images of nothing but blacks looting and shooting at the rescuers.

ok, someone informed might state what the percentage is /was of Blacks in New Orleans, in Mobile, in Gulfport/Biloxi ??

Quoting TedTAce (Reply 11):
Name one piece of legislation that Bush has signed that has directly and positively helped urban African Americans.

he is a Tory, and none of them (Nixon, Ford, Reagan, Bush-senior) signed legislation in help of minorities. That is why I could NOT understand why the US-Americans, narrowly but clearly, re-elected this man.


User currently offlineMD-90 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 8502 posts, RR: 12
Reply 14, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 4369 times:

That is a really ignorant statement. It has nothing to do with Bush, and everything to do with the economic status of the average black person in Mississippi and Louisiana, and the large numbers of them that live there.

That's not racist, even if it is politically incorrect.

Quoting ME AVN FAN (Reply 13):
ok, someone informed might state what the percentage is /was of Blacks in New Orleans, in Mobile, in Gulfport/Biloxi ??

From the 2000 Census:

New Orleans: 326,000 blacks, 67.5% of the population
Mobile: 92,000 blacks, 46.3%
Gulfport: 23,850, 33.5%
Biloxi: 9600 blacks, 19%


User currently offlineSFOMEX From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 4353 times:

Quoting MD-90 (Reply 14):
New Orleans: 326,000 blacks, 67.5% of the population

If the 67.5% of NOLA's population were black, it makes sense that most refugees are also black.

Please people, focus on what does matter right now. Bashing Bush can wait...


User currently offlineANCFlyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 4334 times:

Pure  redflag 

I won't even entertain any more of this thread . . . it's absurd.


User currently offlineJmc1975 From Israel, joined Sep 2000, 3252 posts, RR: 15
Reply 17, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 4321 times:

Quoting MD-90 (Reply 14):
From the 2000 Census:

New Orleans: 326,000 blacks, 67.5% of the population
Mobile: 92,000 blacks, 46.3%
Gulfport: 23,850, 33.5%
Biloxi: 9600 blacks, 19%

They even showed footage of a looter in Biloxi, which they were quickly able to arrest. It didn't just happen in New Orleans.



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User currently offlineOmoo From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 4240 times:

Quoting TedTAce (Thread starter):
I was watching the NBC Special event and this African American guy with Mike Meyers just stated the above quote.

The African american guy you are refering to is Kanye West (a famous rapper). i watched that piece and i thought it was uncalled for, it is not right to label it a racial issue but i do agree with some critics that the Feds were caught with their pants down on this one and that it might be a class thing. very simple "people with means do not really care for the plight of the poor and the disabled". Its that simple.

video of the comments.....

http://media.putfile.com/Kanye79

[Edited 2005-09-03 07:24:03]

[Edited 2005-09-03 07:25:22]

User currently offlineTsaord From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 4229 times:

as a black man....i did find something rather odd. a picture was posted from some news headlines. it had a white couple carrying things in the water they apprantly "found to survive" then there was a picture of a black man carrying some things through the water, he was labelled a looter.

User currently offlineTsaord From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 4222 times:

the sense i got from people here in chicago, around the city, at work, some blacks feel that if that was texas, things would be a whole lot different!

i dont know. race relations in this country still on shaky ground. and someone is always ready to blame someone else, instead of working together!


User currently offlineSESGDL From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 3464 posts, RR: 10
Reply 21, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 4216 times:

Quoting Tsaord (Reply 19):
as a black man....i did find something rather odd. a picture was posted from some news headlines. it had a white couple carrying things in the water they apprantly "found to survive" then there was a picture of a black man carrying some things through the water, he was labelled a looter.

I am black as well, I have also seen that footage and am disgusted by it. Unfortunately things like this are all too common and people fail to see it.

Most people want to deny that race has played a factor but it has, I'm just sorry that people think it doesn't happen. I rarely play the "race" card, but I think that what has happened is not completely unintentional.

Jeremy


User currently offlineAlessandro From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 4193 times:

GWB don´t care about anyone except his family and his bizniz partners,
sad but true....


User currently offlineDrerx7 From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 5144 posts, RR: 8
Reply 23, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 4163 times:

Quoting Tsaord (Reply 20):
the sense i got from people here in chicago, around the city, at work, some blacks feel that if that was texas, things would be a whole lot different!

Chicago is full of idiots. JUST KIDDING Seriously--I'm black and a Houstonian--and I lived in New Orleans for 4 years. I loathe Bush; but even I have to throw the red flag on this play. I knew some folks were gonna play this race card; it just so happens that N.O. is predominantly black. Now I will say New Orleans is a racist, classist, and segregated city--which all played a role in the living conditions of the impoverished; but the lackluster emergency response is not due to race.



Third Coast born, means I'm Texas raised
User currently offlineEA CO AS From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 13478 posts, RR: 62
Reply 24, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 4157 times:
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Quoting TedTAce (Reply 11):
Name one piece of legislation that Bush has signed that has directly and positively helped urban African Americans

No Child Left Behind

Quoting Tsaord (Reply 19):
a picture was posted from some news headlines. it had a white couple carrying things in the water they apprantly "found to survive" then there was a picture of a black man carrying some things through the water, he was labelled a looter.

Regardless of color, here's a simple guide:

If they're running out of stores carrying food, medicine or other items to aid in survival, they're fine.

If they're running out of stores carrying TVs, DVD players, etc - they're piece-of-shit criminals.



"In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem - government IS the problem." - Ronald Reagan
25 Wobbles : Please, folks, W has showed his love (all 1 inch of it) to me, I get great pleasure (and give it too) from Dubya and I'm black. Just don't tell Laura
26 Kilavoud : It's not convenient to play the racist card right now. It even looks very stupid and not appropriate to the seriousness of the situation. It's easy to
27 Braniff727 : It is very clear that the mainstream media, CNN, NBC, ABC, CBS, etc is extremely biased against the Republicans. Fine. It is the media, the supposed "
28 Post contains links Legend500 : I noticed the massive Fox News supply convoy in New Orleans. It was really nice of Rush Limbaugh to fly to New Orleans and hand out some of his spare
29 Post contains images TedTAce : Say that to one of the Orlando High school that's been "F" reated for the past 3 years. Majority Student population=African American PS Where's the m
30 Klaus : I doubt it's actual racism - GW Bush and his government have been quite consistent about one thing: They don't give a damn about any people unless the
31 Post contains links BN747 : Here's the story and source... http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=stor..._on_re_us/katrina_photo_captions_1 Photo Captions From Katrina Stir Debate In o
32 DL021 : So, fundamentally, no one here actually believes that "George Bush doesn't care about black people?" So, where's the criticism of Kanye West and his i
33 Boeing Nut : I'm not even sure how to respond to this. It's just sad. They say that the worst things bring out the best in people. I sure haven't seen any of that.
34 TedTAce : Of course not, but as I pointed out before, he's done nothing to advance African american/monority issues so there is nothing PREVENTING this percept
35 Roger136913 : TedTace Are you the type of person who just loves to stir up trouble? Granted I have not been in this forum for long, but just the responses I see you
36 TedTAce : When what I feel are blatantly DUMB things are occuring, ABSO__CKINGLUTELY!! I love to LEARN. Sometimes I'm right, sometimes I shove my foot down my
37 Airbuzz : I'm not a Bush fan, but all the bashing about: * It's Bush fault if the help is arriving late * Bush doesn't want to help Black people * etc. is pure
38 Post contains images ANCFlyer : So here's a question for A-Netters who think PotUS dropped the ball . . . He declared disaster areas for Louisiana and Mississippi on SATURDAY . . .
39 NIKV69 : I am glad someone here is making sense. I saw that rapper on the news this morning. He was talking out of his ass. Give me a break. Just another reas
40 LTBEWR : The deeper issue here is that the a large majority of Republicans, and significant numbers of Democrats as well, feel the USA cannot afford the poor a
41 SlamClick : Well, the difference in captions has been explained in reply #31 but I do have one observation. What I have believed all along, and what I have heard
42 ANCFlyer : Yup, on different subject matter NIK . . . One of the hardest jobs for any member of the National Guard is to 'play' law enforcement officer in your
43 TedTAce : Then why did W say the response (yesterday morning) was un-acceptable, and why is he today himself ordering 7,000 more troops? Why didn't he say the
44 Post contains images ANCFlyer : TedT, you're arguing in semantics in a way . . . . however, I think we're agreeing here in more ways than you see. Yup PotUS did say the response was
45 MidnightMike : Presiden Bush said the relief aid was unacceptable, which is the truth.... The local government calls up the National Guard, the President is in char
46 Post contains links Carduelis : Not sure if it has been mentioned already, but . . . http://www.michaelmoore.com/words/me...e/index.php?messageDate=2005-09-02
47 JamesAg96 : Because the governoer of LA did shit, the mayor did shit...they had NO plan despite repeated warnings as a result of a hypothetical storm named PAM t
48 11Bravo : Why not Flyer, it’s true. There was something that Bush said yesterday that really caught my attention. He said something to the effect “No one e
49 Slider : OK, I'll play the Devil's Advocate. It is racially driven. Fully. Totally. So if that card is going to be played, then goddammit, let's get it all out
50 JamesAg96 : What part of he called the mayor of NO and told him to evacuate on Saturday don't you understand? What part of he let the Gov know on Saturday that s
51 Post contains images Vanguard737 : Has the FACT that almost exclusively, the people in New Orleans who are currently being rescued are all of the ones who REFUSED the MANDATORY EVACUATI
52 Clickhappy : of course if you can afford a room at the Hyatt you get to go to the front of the line when the buses come, hell, the soldiers will even help you with
53 11Bravo : You are just flat out wrong about that James. I have posted several explanations of how the National Incident Management System works and that it is
54 Clickhappy : You ever been to a slum Vanguard? Ever seen how people well below the poverty line live? How would you have had these people get out? The morons are t
55 Slider : Easy. I'd have cut power to the city BEFORE the hurricane--which is SOP for many cities plans, mobilize all the school busses and driven through ever
56 Post contains images ANCFlyer : And just as quickly others here have a tendency to blame every gawddamn thing on Bush . . . pot, kettle, black my friend. That said, riddle me this B
57 Post contains images TedTAce : And you aren't? I didn't say they had NO blame did I? you mean like :finger: What about Nit Pick? Or how many were allowed to die ?? Food and water a
58 SlamClick : Michael Moore lost his car in a Sears parking lot? I don't beleive that. He might have lost that silly little ballcap in a bucket of KFC, now I'd beli
59 11Bravo : I don't think it's fair for you to suggest that I blame "every gawddamn thing" on the President. I expect him to take charge and get results when the
60 Post contains images ANCFlyer : Okay, not directed solely at you, but a broad brush . . . you're definitely not the typical Bush Basher . . . Micromanagement . . . If I tell a Cabin
61 MD-90 : Look at it from the very beginning. Police were making people stand outside for hours while they frisked people for drugs and weapons, even though th
62 Post contains images TedTAce : Yeah, bush has such a great history of firing those who DESPERATELY deserve it
63 ANCFlyer : Agreed . . . never happen. Sadly.
64 Post contains links MD-90 : Here's another interesting quote: As a real-life "Lord of the Flies" scene unfolds in New Orleans, we forget the simple reasons why this tragedy has o
65 Flying Belgian : America will always surprise me... FB.
66 11Bravo : That isn’t management at all, micro or otherwise. The President has a duty to supervise his subordinates. My supervisor monitors my progress and I
67 Post contains images TedTAce : lewsuckwell strikes again....
68 ANCFlyer : I understand that . . . I consider checking on progress of any subordinate every hour, two hours, four hours, micro-management. I expect, when I issu
69 TedTAce : EXACTLY..
70 MD-90 : Yes, yes, no. Why is a new mayor required?
71 TedTAce : Because he's....... Signed, George W. Bush
72 Flybyguy : Ok, it's about time that someone set the record straight. #1 I agree wholly with ANCflyer in that most of the fault for this disaster lies completely
73 TedTAce : These two ought to be imprisoned for inciting riots.
74 Post contains images ANCFlyer : Because, MD-90 . . . his and NOLA's only plan as the hurricane is rapidly approaching the fair city having been given abundant warning by the NOAA, a
75 Post contains links GuitrThree : Umm, one look at this picture will describe how the Mayor didn't do everything he could to get the citizens of his city out. No matter how much he ge
76 TedTAce : Oh yeah, That's what, enoguh for a couple thousand at best? What about the other 23K?
77 J_Hallgren : I've seen better handled evac of Pinellas County FL (Clearwater/St Pete area) for a Cat 1 storm! They had fully equipped shelters ready to go...and th
78 Post contains images ANCFlyer : OK, for grins . . . I counted the number of busses in the photo . . . there are over 200. I stopped counting at 200. Assuming the following: They all
79 Post contains images TedTAce : Ok 200 Busses BEHIND the 10,000 + cars and you think there was going to be more then one trip???
80 Cfalk : Don't you get it? The fact that those buses were sitting unused means that he did not even TRY to evacuate people. He should have taken these buses,
81 GuitrThree : I utterly cannot believe you just said that. Yea, your right. I guess its better off to have these "couple of thousand at best" sitting in horror rig
82 ANCFlyer : Narrow minded attitude TedT. The point, is it wasn't even tried. There was not a plan . . . no plan . . . nothing. "go to the superdome". But to answ
83 TedTAce : Ohh wait a minute.. dedicated lanes... Hummm was this something they pulled out of their a$$ at a moments notice or (Like lessons from Hugo) was it P
84 Halls120 : I saw a Coast Guardsman interviewed about the part he played in the rescues. When he confronted a woman about leaving her luggage behind, she slapped
85 Halls120 : In your opinion, when was FEMA supposed to step in and take control? And what part of the NRP clearly sets this out?
86 Halls120 : Let's see if I understand this. The mayor tells people to assemble at the Superdome, despite the fact he has no plan in place to feed them, provide w
87 Wobbles : I just saw a video of the coast guard boats fighting the fires at the riverplace complex. You mean to tell me that they (anyone, coast guard, navy, et
88 Halls120 : Good question. Since the levees along the River held, and the highest ground in the city is generally along the river, on has to wonder why the Mayor
89 Post contains images Usnseallt82 : Gee, that must be why he has a black National Security Advisor...what a racist!
90 TedTAce : Token. EVERYONE THROUGH the FEDERAL LEVEL is responsible for food and water not being there in the first place. Probably They didn't re-enforce the l
91 Usnseallt82 : NEWS FLASH.... In the city of New Orleans, black people don't care about black people right now.
92 TedTAce : You wouldn't either...
93 Post contains images Usnseallt82 : I hate all the criminals equally...don't give a shit what color they are.
94 AeroWesty : Stephen Hadley is black?
95 Usnseallt82 : Sorry, I meant to put 'had.'
96 MidnightMike : Power resides in the State, somehow strong local Government in New York, Florida, California have been able to take care of their disasters......
97 Halls120 : No - you are wrong. The federal government is NOT responsible for making sure that every state and local government has proper stockpiles of emergenc
98 MD-90 : I had an aunt who lived on Bourbon Street when she was going to LSU's medical school in NOLA. I've been there for four band trips and one mission to
99 AGM100 : The whole government of Louisiana is black !!! This Artist errrrrrr rapper should sell his $120k humvee and get his black ass down their and fill sand
100 ANCFlyer : It's called Posse Comitatus. It does NOT however, restrict Active Military Forces from performing support roles, airlift, truck driving, medical care
101 Post contains images Drerx7 : I don't know in how many threads I have to post that Ray Nagin was elected ONLY 3 YEARS AGO. I'm no Nagin fan--I use to live in New Orleans--but he di
102 MidnightMike : The National Guard needs to be called up first, active duty military will only go in severe times of crisis & only to beef up the forces of the Natio
103 ANCFlyer : I rather know all that Mike - was trying to add depth to your post . . . I rather know that too . . . but thanks for sharing . . . It's one of the re
104 Flydubai : Yes. But the response would have been a lot quicker if the city was predominately white. Well maybe you should stop watching TV because its obviously
105 Post contains links Slider : Damn right- that dude took control from the moment his boots were on the ground. That sumbitch ought to be the new mayor and, in essence, kinda IS ri
106 Cfalk : Oh crap. Look at what's happening in France right now. last night the third or forth apartment building was set on fire in a couple of weeks, where o
107 Flydubai : Correct Correct Like there always has been Rich white people vote. Poor black people dont. Which do you think Bush cares about most. nuf said. Well i
108 Slider : What a load of crap that is. Blacks form the single largest predictable voting block and special interest for the Democrats that there is. But I digr
109 Flyingbronco05 : How do you know the photographer who took the picture didn't witness the black person STEALING and the white people carrying their own stuff?
110 BN747 : Because if you bother to READ the story [reply #31] it clearly states... "...the black kid LOOTED a store for food..." and ".. the white couple FOUND
111 ME AVN FAN : your statement leads to a question: what is the share of Blacks in the (resident) population of New Orleans ? "not appropriate" indeed, but NOT "stup
112 ANCFlyer : Over 67% of the general population . . .
113 ME AVN FAN : I have heard and read > that the armed forces at present only have about 35% of the usual material reserves inside the USA > that almost half of all
114 Post contains images Cfalk : Nice job taking my comments completely out of context, trying to make me look like I'm saying that the black population is the problem, when I was ta
115 Halls120 : BS. The response was slow because it is federal government policy that state and local governments are to provide initial disaster response. They hav
116 Usnseallt82 : This is an ungrounded opinion with no facts to back it up. The bad timing was a breakdown in communication...no one knew exactly how bad it was until
117 Post contains images ME AVN FAN : it is NOT a matter of "level" but just a joke. Your lack of humour becomes apparent ! I am neither a turd, nor shameless or deceitful. And NOT lying
118 Usnseallt82 : If any of you know me at all, you know I have an abundant sense of humor. But this type at this point in time is not humorous. Bad decision.
119 ME AVN FAN : so that any Whites who want to "segregate" primarily segregate themselves. But it is fairly obvious that New Orleans by many US-Whites for sure IS re
120 ME AVN FAN : now some serious points: why do you on one side describe such criminals as "racist assholes" and in the same sentence practically accept their positi
121 Jaysit : Bush and his followers - that loud cabal of small-minded religious and racist bigots (you know who you are) - must be terrified right now. This will b
122 AeroWesty : What I'm hearing is that were it not for the small percentages of "foreigners" in Europe (how ridiculous does that sound? lol), that Jim Crow would b
123 Halls120 : This morning's Washington Post had an article about a major fire in Paris where the firemen arriving to fight the fire were pelted with stones by a j
124 ME AVN FAN : WHO is/was Jim Crow ? no reason to laugh, as racists in Europe are as racist and uncivilized as US-American racists. Whenever those European racists
125 Post contains links and images AeroWesty : Jim Crow was not an actual person, but a character in a minstrel show that segregation laws were named after. http://www.ferris.edu/news/jimcrow/who.
126 Post contains images Usnseallt82 : Dumbass statement of the year. Michael Moore, is that you? Ahh, yes...our leader, the f*cker-upper of the entire world. Makes as much sense as my scr
127 ME AVN FAN : not really "transferable" as much of the problems in Europe are between West European natives and Whites like Turks, Arabs and Italians, with Blacks
128 AeroWesty : Maybe I shouldn't have been so subtle, but it certainly seemed as if the message I was getting was that apartheid or segregation laws, aimed at whate
129 Halls120 : I wasn't laughing at the story - I was laughing at the smug individuals who like to think they are any better than than we uncultured ruffians of the
130 DL021 : ME AVN FAN...there's not enough room here to properly explain Jim Crow. Please look it up to get the proper perspective. The very short answer is that
131 BHMBAGLOCK : Sadly, the two sorriest people I've seen on TV during this are the mayor and PC from NO. If they happen to be working urban African-Americans(most ar
132 Halls120 : I don't normally like to cite Drudge as a source, but he is currently reporting the following: Before residents had ever heard the words "Hurricane K
133 ME AVN FAN : well, some "natives" in Europe PRACTICE kinds of "segregation" I read European media in three languages, and live in Europe, and can tell you that th
134 Halls120 : You can make the same argument about the leadership of New Orleans. Which is black, by the way. In a June 2005 article, the New Orleans Times Picayun
135 DL021 : Y'know....I read this and feel a certain revulsion. I truly believe that this is an accurate statement of the opinions of many Europeans and others a
136 Halls120 : Agree completely. Despite the FEMA hiccups, our response effort has been massive, and in the final analysis, I believe most of the loss of life will
137 Cfalk : I think the basic problem is that people have nothing to compare this to. In case of a hurricane, the storm creates a mess, a few people get killed wh
138 ANCFlyer : And despite the idiots in NOLA and Baton Rouge that prepared no plan for this eventuality. Even the most elementary of plans would have been better,
139 Post contains links Cfalk : Actually they DID have a plan. But they just did not follow it. http://www.ohsep.louisiana.gov/plans...h='Louisiana%20Emergency%20plan'
140 AeroWesty : I think that's overly broad, as if they just tossed the book out the window. Quite a lot of the evacuation plan was indeed followed, just one example
141 ME AVN FAN : no, these people are not critical of YOUR response, whenever possibly of the response of your president. in 90% of the world, similar mistakes would
142 ME AVN FAN : I would NOT speak of "idiots" but simply of some people who make/made mistakes. Mistakes always are made, and many people who do such mistakes in hin
143 ANCFlyer : " target=_blank>http://www.ohsep.louisiana.gov/plans...lan' Interestingly, I have printed this, read it, and I'm even more appalled at the Governor an
144 Post contains images ANCFlyer : Psssssstttt     Quite a lot my ass . . . read it and get back to me - highlighting a single paragraph that may have been half-ass looked at does
145 AeroWesty : Certainly I can. My statement was that the claim was "overly broad". I'm more than open to anyone detailing, as you've begun above, to point out spec
146 Post contains images ANCFlyer : As was your Overly Broad comments here . . . One fuckin' paragraph does not constitute "Quite a lot" of any gawddamn thing! Read the plan again, cove
147 Halls120 : I've asked my friends on active duty if they've had time to cart out their copies of the useless National Response Plan and burn them. I've been advi
148 Post contains images Flyfisher1976 : I can't believe a thread 145 replies long has been sparked by a vacuous comment made by a (political) nobody such as Kanye West. This guy represents t
149 AeroWesty : Oh come on, Yosemite Sam, put your guns back in their holsters for a moment. Would you like me to reprint every paragraph of the report that was foll
150 Post contains images Airbuzz : Potus, potus... When this word has been coined? Every times i read that word, I think: Maybe I'm just dyslexic...
151 Post contains images AeroWesty : I have the same problem with SCOTUS, but the rules won't allow me to post the picture that comes to mind.
152 Post contains images ANCFlyer :    Just as bad . . . I've already done that, and said so. FEMA needs it's ass handed to them. Specifically Mr. Brown, the politically appointed, no
153 Post contains links and images Flyfisher1976 : This just in from CNN.com: "...In addition to Gonzales's influential statement about George Bush hating Hispanics, he also was quoted as saying: "Geor
154 AeroWesty : Completely agreed. I'm still open-minded enough to believe that the NRP would encompass some sort of coordination efforts with the local entities, if
155 Halls120 : If it isn't obvious now that the NRP is one big (400-plus pages) freakin joke, I suspect it will become so once Congress holds the inevitable hearing
156 Post contains images AeroWesty : Yup, that's why I've asked questions about it in the past few days, and have appreciated your informed responses to them. Cheers.
157 Halls120 : Glad to be of assistance.
158 Post contains images Greyhound : "Also offended by George Bush was the putrid Pepe Le Pew, who has stated George Bush also hates the French and has a bias against skunks who attempt
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