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User currently offlineAsstChiefMark From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (9 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 1498 times:

As reported by CNN

Mark

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User currently offlineEspion007 From Denmark, joined Dec 2003, 1691 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (9 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 1486 times:

Me too. Damn you Pat Robinson


Snakes on a Plane!
User currently offlineKiwiNanday From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (9 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 1485 times:

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=stor...20050904/ap_on_go_su_co/renquist_3

User currently offlineKFLLCFII From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 3307 posts, RR: 30
Reply 3, posted (9 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 1475 times:

Chief Justice, Thanks for your service. RIP.


"About the only way to look at it, just a pity you are not POTUS KFLLCFII, seems as if we would all be better off."
User currently offlineKiwiNanday From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (9 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 1462 times:

Farewell, your honor. May you always be remembered.

User currently offlineFalcon84 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (9 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 1440 times:

THIS will be the Supreme Court fight everone has been gearing up for.

Yet how much can Mr. Bush afford to risk on a drawn-out battle, what with him taking political beating after political beating lately?


User currently offlineAa777jr From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (9 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 1427 times:

Clarence Thomas is gonna get the nod for Chief Justice. John Roberts won't be in the hot seat anymore, but on the back burner. All the new fodder will be focused on the new nominee for associate justice position.

Regards.


User currently offlineEspion007 From Denmark, joined Dec 2003, 1691 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (9 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 1425 times:

Still no word on when it will start raining frogs.


Snakes on a Plane!
User currently offlinePope From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (9 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 1416 times:

Quoting Falcon84 (Reply 5):
THIS will be the Supreme Court fight everone has been gearing up for.

Why? He could appoint anyone and it wouldn't change the balance of the court one bit. It will be interesting who the Chief Justice appointment is, but the filling of the seat for his replacement as a member of the court is a non-issue.

The battle royale will be over Stevens if he doesn't make through Jan 2009.


User currently offlinePope From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (9 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 1394 times:

Quoting Aa777jr (Reply 6):
Clarence Thomas is gonna get the nod for Chief Justice.

There's absolutely no chance of that. I believe that of sitting Supreme Court Justices, Thomas was confirmed by the narrowest of margins. Even if it was offered to him, I highly doubt that he would accept it and then there's a better than average chance that he wouldn't be confirmed.

On a side note, since the CJ died before Roberts was confirmed, nobody who ever clerked on the Supreme Court will have served as a member of the court with the person he clerked for. Roberts and Rehnquist were to be the first.


User currently offlineFalcon84 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (9 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 1393 times:

Quoting Pope (Reply 8):
Why? He could appoint anyone and it wouldn't change the balance of the court one bit.

It's not about the balance. It's about Bush wanting to put someone much more conservative than even Roberts on the court-and it could be the appointment where he does make Abortion the litmus test.


User currently offlineWe're Nuts From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 5722 posts, RR: 19
Reply 11, posted (9 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 1376 times:

He put up a remarkable fight with time until the very end. He witnessed more history than most of us can hope to, and love his politics or hate them, you had to respect the man. Farewell, your Honor.


Dear moderators: No.
User currently offlineSenorcarnival From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (9 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 1371 times:

That seriously sucks...Any prospects to replace him?

User currently offlineFalcon84 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (9 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 1369 times:

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Chief Justice William Rehnquist, who helped shift the U.S. Supreme Court toward a more conservative ideology and strongly supported states' rights during his three decades on the bench, has died.

Yes-States' right, but only when it was politically expedient to do so? As in, a certain event in 2000?


User currently offlinePope From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (9 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 1366 times:

Quoting Falcon84 (Reply 10):
It's not about the balance. It's about Bush wanting to put someone much more conservative than even Roberts on the court-and it could be the appointment where he does make Abortion the litmus test.

And even if he did, it wouldn't mean anything. The CJ was a strong anti-Roe jurist. Therefore, even if Pat Roberts were nominated (obviously hyperbole) the replacement of a conservative with a conservative doesn't matter.

I'll bet that what will emerge is a deal on Steven's seat. The Dems will give W whoever he wants and the GOP will agree that the Stevens seat (if and when it becomes an issue) will go to a pro-Roe jurist. Dems have more to loose on this than the Republicans and based on the most recent counts may loose another 1 or 2 seats in the Senate in 2006.


User currently offlineFalcon84 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (9 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 1358 times:

Quoting Pope (Reply 15):
I'll bet that what will emerge is a deal on Steven's seat. The Dems will give W whoever he wants and the GOP will agree that the Stevens seat (if and when it becomes an issue) will go to a pro-Roe jurist.

Not in a million years, Pope. This president does that, his far right-wing base, the Neocon Christians, will have his head if he made ANY deal that involved putting a pro-choice justice on the bench. He'll never do that-never.


User currently offlinePope From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (9 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 1354 times:

Quoting Falcon84 (Reply 14):
Yes-States' right, but only when it was politically expedient to do so? As in, a certain event in 2000?

I guess you only support the selective incorporation of the 14th amendment when it suits your argument. You can't argue for an expansive interpretation of the 14th when it suits you issue dejure but then insist that it doesn't apply to state recount procedures.


User currently offlineFlyingTexan From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (9 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 1350 times:

RIP to CJ Rehnquist.

Quoting Pope (Reply 8):
Quoting Falcon84 (Reply 5):
THIS will be the Supreme Court fight everone has been gearing up for.

Why?

I’m with Falcon. This is the fight. Realize this next CJ will serve many, many blue moons to come.


User currently offlineAa777jr From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (9 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 1345 times:

I like former Tennessee Senator and current Supreme Court liaison Fred Thompson. That is a pipe dream though.

Quoting Pope (Reply 9):
There's absolutely no chance of that

Thomas was mentioned in several CNN and USAToday articles as a leading candidate before Sandra Day O'Connor resigned as a potential replacement for Rehnquist in the event he retired. Scalia has also be thrown in the same pool.

Regards.


User currently offlineFalcon84 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (9 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 1329 times:

Quoting Pope (Reply 17):
I guess you only support the selective incorporation of the 14th amendment when it suits your argument. You can't argue for an expansive interpretation of the 14th when it suits you issue dejure but then insist that it doesn't apply to state recount procedures.

I support the fact that if you're truely for "States' rights", you're consistent in it, and throw the 2000 back to the people of Florida. Bush would have won every recount, but to this day, it smells to high Heaven what the USSC did that night.


User currently offlinePope From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (9 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 1320 times:

Quoting Falcon84 (Reply 16):
This president does that, his far right-wing base, the Neocon Christians, will have his head if he made ANY deal that involved putting a pro-choice justice on the bench. He'll never do that-never.

Falcon, you call him a lame duck one minute and then imply that he has to care about what the neocons are going to say about him the next. The reality is that #1 such a deal is never publicly announced when it occurs (it comes out years [if not decades later]) and #2 I don't believe the majority of the US conservative are really prepared to deal with an overturn of Roe if for no other reason that abortion is a practical fact of 21st century life in the US.

The social problems that banning abortions would create would be dramatic - however, if we are to be honest, an overturn of Roe DOES NOT BAN ABORTION. Instead, it allows states to decide whether they'll regulate (or ban the practice). Funny how a second ago you were lamenting the trashing of states rights in the Bush v. Gore decision but you're perfectly okay with the court trashing those same sovereignities when it suits your cause.


User currently offlinePope From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (9 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 1305 times:

Quoting Falcon84 (Reply 20):
but to this day, it smells to high Heaven what the USSC did that night.

Please tell us what you think the USCt did that day - I'll be you've never even read the entire decision. What the majority ruled what that the state could not pick and choose what to recount. That if a recount was going to occur, it had to occur uniformily. I don't find that objectionable at all - one person one vote.

Let's be honest. One person cost Al Gore the election and that person was a democrat. The incompetence of the Supervisor of Elections for Palm Beach county is the reason why Gore did not win the presidency. The irony is that will all the hatred the Democrats have for Republicans, the real blame lays with one of their own.


User currently offlineFalcon84 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (9 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 1304 times:

Quoting Pope (Reply 21):
Falcon, you call him a lame duck one minute and then imply that he has to care about what the neocons are going to say about him the next.

You think he's going to screw it up for the man/woman who follows him as his party's nominee for President? Whomever he chooses, there's a good chance his stalwarts in Congress will have to go along, and if he made such a deal, with the blessing of a Frist, or a Santorum, it would kill their chances in the primaries, which, as you know, is controlled in most states by ideological conservatives. It would be bad politics for Bush to steer away from the GOP base.

Quoting Pope (Reply 21):
The reality is that #1 such a deal is never publicly announced when it occurs (it comes out years [if not decades later])

Come on, Pope! Say he would appoint such a judge-and it becomes obvious he has pro-choice leanings, you seriously expect me, or anyone else to believe, he DIDN'T make some kind of deal on this, and turned his back on his hardest-core constituency, the religious right! It would be as obvious as the sun rising in the morning. There's be no way to hide such a thing.


User currently offlineJohnboy From United States of America, joined Aug 1999, 2597 posts, RR: 7
Reply 23, posted (9 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 1298 times:

Quoting Aerobalance (Reply 11):
Figures that the commie-pinkos on this site have accused Bush of doing everything else....

I haven't heard the term "commie-pinko" in forever!

Thanks for making me laugh today -- I sure needed it.


User currently offlineAeroWesty From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 20782 posts, RR: 62
Reply 24, posted (9 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 1280 times:

Quoting Aa777jr (Reply 6):
Clarence Thomas is gonna get the nod for Chief Justice.

Anyone for a Coca-Cola?  Smile



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25 Post contains images JCS17 : Thanks for your service to America, your honor.
26 Magnetass : THAT was sweet! All the USSC did was force Florida to abide by its own election laws....designed specifically by democrats...to make it difficult for
27 Logan22L : Aero: Your aviation knowledge is wonderful. Your politics and opinons, IMO, just plain suck. That statement is just plain bullshit, and I would have
28 Aerobalance : Somebody couldn't take the heat....
29 Scamp : Man! Is Dubya busting a gut with joy, or what??? He can potentially set back civil rights 50 years! Good job, George, here's your chance to fuck up Am
30 MKEdude : So now the Dear Leader gets to appoint another supreme. If there is a god, he is punishing us. To the Star Trek convention, quickly! We need virgins t
31 Post contains images We're Nuts : ... He can replace a conservative with either a conservative or something to the left of that. Calm down.
32 Legend500 : All this re-hash of the 2000 election is tiring. Fellow social liberals, Al Gore lost that election, not the Court, and not Nader. He was an incumbent
33 JCS17 : Jesus Christ, a man who was a very accomplished judge has died. Why not have a little respect for him? Quit the damn politics and acknowledge the man'
34 Logan22L : Dude, I've survived hours and hours in and out of Level B personal protective equipment (supplied air respirator; full tyvek, etc.), dealing with exp
35 Post contains images B757300 : All that should be said in this thread. I will not lower myself to the level of other members by turning this into another political b*tch fest.
36 Logan22L : Every now and then, everyone makes an exception. Kudos. Rhenquist was a human being just like all the rest of us. He ate, shit, breathed, watched TV,
37 ANCFlyer : THank you Mr. Chief Justice for your service to the United States. Over Thirty Years on the Supreme Court Bench. PotUS needs to move well center on hi
38 STLGph : Yay!!!
39 Legend500 : Because that a-hole voted to deny a whole group of people basic human rights in Lawrence v. Texas. If I knew where he was buried, i'd go there with a
40 Post contains images Cfalk : I looked it up. He was simply refusing to be an activist judge and simply applied the law. If Texas residents don't like the law, they can change it
41 Post contains links and images Legend500 : Applied what law? Was not activist in what manner? The central argument was under the essential test of such a law, whether it “furthers no legitim
42 We're Nuts : The idea is hardly a new one. Imagine how hard it would be to display the Constitution and Bill of Rights if our every liberty were guaranteed in wri
43 OzarkD9S : Farewell homophobic trash...may your journey to hell be long and hideous. Tennis anyone?
44 Logan22L : And a monkey just flew outta my butt.
45 Post contains images SATX : According to the BBC, Bush would actually have lost every proposed recount. This was on BBC World a couple weeks after the election was decided by th
46 Post contains images ANCFlyer : Oh, I agree, Logan, the chances are about as good as my being elected Pope in the morning. . . . I'm simply maknig an aboservation of what PotUS NEED
47 Post contains images TedTAce : The Morons who made this thread political can suck it for all I care. Rehnquist this, Rehnquist that... He was one of the best jurists/men ever reguar
48 Post contains images Sidewinder : Geee.... I wonder what kind of person he will be replaced by
49 Post contains images B757300 : For once Ted, I agree with you.
50 MKEdude : This is weird, I didn't say that. That was reply 31 from We're Nuts. My take on the situation (now that I'm sober) is that Chimpy will nominate Thoma
51 Post contains links B2707SST : The BBC got it wrong: two separate and independent media recounts confirmed that Bush would have won if the recount had gone on. Under the standard o
52 SFOMEX : The only thing I want to say is that Chief Justice Rehnquist will be always remembered for his service to the nation. He was one of the two dissenters
53 Post contains links Cfalk : OK, let's try to define an activist judge. "An "activist" judge is one that overturns precedent, common law, and common sense in his interpretation o
54 L-188 : ROTFLMAO!!! And the recounts the papers did occured in the months after the election. And as Falcon and B2707 pointed out confirmed what we all knew.
55 SW733 : I am definitely quite liberal, and was far from Rehnquist's biggest fan (mainly because I am very pro - choice and he was, of course, not), but I must
56 Post contains images N229NW : As a couple people have said, I don't think the makeup of the supreme court will possibly change much, since, after Scalia (and maybe Thomas), Rehnqui
57 B2707SST : This is true in theory, and even my lifelong populist Democrat father realized immediately what Gore was trying to do -- "carry the margin of error"
58 Post contains links SATX : Quite true. For some reason you can't quote We're Nuts thanks to some strange quirk of the A.net forums and so I clicked the quote button next to you
59 We're Nuts : Yeah, we're working on that problem.
60 Cfalk : When it became known that some 1500 or so non-felons were disenfranchised, many districts threw the felons' list out, resulting in some 6000 actual f
61 B744F : And where did this info come from?
62 Post contains links Johnboy : Here's another viewpoint on the "well-respected" Chief Justice Rehnquist, and in not quite-so-glowing terms I might add: http://news.yahoo.com/s/huffp
63 Post contains links SATX : I'm no fan of either Rehnquist or Dershowitz, but at least Alan and I agree on our view of FOX NEWS... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alan_Dershowitz Fo
64 Post contains links Cfalk : LOL! You are telling that to B744F, well known for outrageous claims with no proof whatsoever. The issue was reported some years ago, and I won't spe
65 B744F : First of all that is one county in the whole state, secondly, the main problem is the SC led by Rehnquist refused to accept the states ruling and ove
66 ANCFlyer : Far be it for YOU to ask for a source for any damn thing. . . . preposterous!
67 Redngold : I'm just glad that Bush had the sense to avoid nominating Antonin Scalia for elevation to Chief Justice. You want to talk about a vicious conservative
68 B744F : I can ask whatever question I want, it's a free country, but when given an answer like this I'm surprised you didn't constantly belittle him. Oh that
69 We're Nuts : ANCFlyer is a very angry person.
70 ANCFlyer : Quoting B744F (Reply 68): I'm surprised you didn't constantly belittle him. Oh thats right, hes on your side thus free from criticism. Quoting Nut Cas
71 Post contains images We're Nuts : I worked so hard thinking up this username.
72 Post contains images ANCFlyer : Quoting Definitely Nuts: I worked so hard thinking up this username.    Oh, I like the name . . . it's sooo easy to work with   [Edited 2005-09-07
73 Post contains images We're Nuts : Well that's something I guess.
74 Post contains links and images FlyingTexan : Just heard on NPR that Rehnquist dated Sandra Day O’Connor at one point. Article with audio file here.
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