ANCFlyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (8 years 11 months 2 hours ago) and read 1173 times:
Quoting DL021 (Thread starter): He's a local, and a cajun, and he's an absolute zero bullshit guy. I saw him giving a mission brief and this is the kind of guy that experienced grunts volunteer to carry the radio for. He's a leader.
Guys like Honore are few and far between. Generals like Lieutenant General Honore are even more rare. I'd had the pleasure in my long time in service of only serving under one commander with his style.
I'd consider myself quite lucky to serve with LTG Honore.
He'd likely be a shoe-in for Governor of Louisiana. I'd love to see the look on those faces in Baton Rouge when he stepped onto the steps of the Capital Building on "Day 1 Week 1".
General's are neither Democrat or Republican Ian . . . they are soldiers first. That's the big difference between he and the other losers (read that Mayor and Governor ). He is a professional; they are politicians . . . .
DL021 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 11446 posts, RR: 76
Reply 2, posted (8 years 11 months 2 hours ago) and read 1170 times:
Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 1): General's are neither Democrat or Republican Ian . . . they are soldiers first. That's the big difference between he and the other losers (read that Mayor and Governor ).
To argue that....you know as well as I do that there are plenty of political generals, and they are the bureaucrats who make Sodom-on-Potomac such a cluster.
Guys like him an Schwarzkopf tend to piss of the REMFs and ticket punchers. He's the guy who'd tell Col Abrams to STFU for asking dumbass questions designed to make info he did not like look incorrect.
This guy could be either one when he gets out and is chased after by both parties to run in LA. He'd do a hell of a job.
Who aren't soldiers. There are men with stars on their collars that are politicians, and there are politicians with stars on their collars. But Generals - real live gawddamn Generals - few and far between.
Occasionally, but exceptionally rarely, you can find one that finds a unique balance . . . Colin Powell for instance.
He's definitely in the company of Schwarzkopf, even Patton I'd say . . . and an old friend of mine, MG Richard Miles Blunt, Deputy Commander, US Forces, Korea. He was my first Battalion Commander when I picked up the heavy hardware. Believe me - the names suits him quite well.
That the folks around him, the mayor and the gov, are so bad??
Likely a combination of both I'm sure . . . no, check that, I'm positive. He's that damn good and Mayor and Governor are just that bad. All the easier to shine like a star when you're surrounded by dead weight.
The impression I see however, from the television only - never met the man - is that he's no bullshit. Hell, he's riding in the back of a 5-ton tractor with the troops and the evacuees, not pompously displacing the A-driver in the cab. He's personally standing out on LZs bringing in choppers. Not sending some numbnut 2LT to do it. And he isn't afraid to tell a Deputer Sheriff to lower his weapon. Hell, he's even telling Mayor how to do things. And the display I saw that impressed me the most was at a news conference with he, Chertoff and Brown (I need emoticons for those two - Brown and Chertoff as well), where a member of the press corps said something untoward and Chertoff began to respond . . . . Honore' pretty much jumped to the mic and said, quite plainly, "That BS right there, that's just BS. . . . ", that's where the sound bite trailed off.
Nope, I'm SURE he's that good.
And every indication I get from friends still assigned in/around 1st Army and the Five Sided Funny Farms is that he is THAT good. WTF isn't he CoS Army??
He isn't focused on anything but getting the job done.
SlamClick From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 10062 posts, RR: 68
Reply 8, posted (8 years 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 1120 times:
It is fun to watch a master at work.
I once had the privilege of watching Ray Kroc climb down the airstair of his Gulfstream II and face a circle of about fifteen of his subordinate managers. He started at the left end and pointed a finger at the chest of each person in sequence. He issued two or three orders to each of them right off the top of his head, and by the time he got to the last one, the first ones were long-gone, out somewhere doing what he'd told them to do.
I'm quite sure that he paid them well but there was no doubt whatever what he expected of them.
I kept thinking about that, while watching G. Bush go on about what a great job the Government was doing.
Utterly different fields of endeavors, but it is still good to watch a master.
Another occasion: I flew a college football charter. Our team lost. As they boarded the plane for the long ride home a couple of the players were loud and boisterous. The head coach, all 140 pounds of him, stood up, turned around to face the three hundred pounders and said: "What've YOU got to be happy about?" I have never seen a guy melt so fast! They were very quiet on the way home.
I knew only a couple of military commanders who could be spoken of in such terms. They are wonderful! I know they are rare. Sometimes nothing else is quite so important as getting the damn job done.
I'd vote for him as well. Clearly some shaping-up is needed before the next one, and he seems like the man.
Happiness is not seeing another trite Ste. Maarten photo all week long.
LTBEWR From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 13043 posts, RR: 12
Reply 10, posted (8 years 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 1115 times:
Perhaps Lt. Gen Honore should be appointed FEMA head after Brown is canned later this year. That way, no need to be with a political party, you get someone who know how to manage men and programs and wouldn't let the fools in DC get in his way to save people.
ME AVN FAN From Switzerland, joined May 2002, 13920 posts, RR: 25
Reply 12, posted (8 years 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 1101 times:
Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 1): the other losers (read that Mayor hissyfit and Governor confused
well, from the distance, that mayor at first looked energetic and active but then gradually lost nerves and began to rage and rave. the governor when I saw her on TV for the first time fought with tears, and looked like a charming nice lady who finds it difficult to park her car in a narrow lane in downtown. Suppose that both are up to their job in "peace-time" but NOT in a crisis of this magnitude.