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How Do I Get US Citizenship  
User currently offlineCatatonic From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2004, 1155 posts, RR: 3
Posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 1937 times:

Ok, how would I go about getting a US passport? I dont really want to live there but I get a bit fed up standing in the que's for immigration. Last time it was about an hour and US nationals went straight through. So I decided I want to become an American as I dont do queing very well. And lets face it, you get treated like shit by the immigration officials, when I was at JFK this bunch of Italians got threatened to be sent straight back because they had not filled in the forms properly. So I guess getting a passport must be pretty easy, I mean how many foreign cab drivers are there in NY anyway? This guy from Morocco got one and now he's applying for the whole of his family to go live there! Like I said, its not like I want to live there and usurp all the jobs and state benefits, just go there for the odd shopping trip and stuff so whats the problem?


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User currently offlineEA CO AS From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 13511 posts, RR: 62
Reply 1, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 1924 times:
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How Do I Get US Citizenship


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User currently offlineFlyingTexan From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 1911 times:

Quoting Catatonic (Thread starter):
Ok, how would I go about getting a US passport? I dont really want to live there but

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User currently offlineUSAFHummer From United States of America, joined May 2000, 10685 posts, RR: 53
Reply 3, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 1906 times:

Catatonic, I think you left out the all-important " Wink" at the end of your post...if this is serious, then, I'm speechless...

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User currently offlineQANTASforever From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 1899 times:

I think that if you're going to become a citizen of another country, you should do it for a proper reason. And I don't consider saving a few hours in a que to be a good reason.

You need to have a respect for that nation and make a deep committment to it. It's like a marriage.

Just my opinion...

QFF


User currently offlineUAL747 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 1889 times:

Catatonic, tell me you can't be serious?

UAL (confused)


User currently offlinePacificjourney From New Zealand, joined Jul 2001, 2731 posts, RR: 8
Reply 6, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 1883 times:

I knew a woman once who changed religion because the parking was better.


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User currently offlineFlyMIA From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 7119 posts, RR: 9
Reply 7, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 1878 times:

Is this serious? If it is LOL
If its not. LMAO. I am confused here.
I dont think its a good idea to get a US passport for that reason alone. Also I dot think it would be very easy to get one without having a place of residence in the US. Getting a US passport is not an easy thing to do.



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User currently offlineArrow From Canada, joined Jun 2002, 2676 posts, RR: 2
Reply 8, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 1849 times:
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Quoting FlyMIA (Reply 7):
Getting a US passport is not an easy thing to do.

This can't be a serious question. Only citizens of the US can get US passports -- just like every other country in the world. If you want a US passport, first immigrate and get landed immigrant status, wait 5 years, apply for US citizenship, then apply for the passport. Very simple, if they let you in in the first place.

What a stupid idea.



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User currently offlineOmoo From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 1831 times:

Quoting Catatonic (Thread starter):
Ok, how would I go about getting a US passport? I dont really want to live there but I get a bit fed up standing in the que's for immigration. Last time it was about an hour and US nationals went straight through. So I decided I want to become an American as I dont do queing very well. And lets face it, you get treated like shit by the immigration officials, when I was at JFK this bunch of Italians got threatened to be sent straight back because they had not filled in the forms properly. So I guess getting a passport must be pretty easy, I mean how many foreign cab drivers are there in NY anyway? This guy from Morocco got one and now he's applying for the whole of his family to go live there! Like I said, its not like I want to live there and usurp all the jobs and state benefits, just go there for the odd shopping trip and stuff so whats the problem?

Immigrating to the US/getting US citizenship is not easy at it used to be. Things have changed a lot since September 10, 2001. I am affraid you will have to line up like everyone else. A shortcut will be to have a special skill (needed skill), things like Super Smart Scientist or invest a lot of money in the US. All the cab drivers who have US citizenship have probably been here for more than 5 years (they were lucky) or had fake marriages, these days if you have not established residence tough luck.


User currently offlineLH423 From Canada, joined Jul 1999, 6501 posts, RR: 54
Reply 10, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 1777 times:

...or be Rupert Murdoch!  Wink

Australia, do you want him back? We'll give you Fox News Channel as well if you agree! Two for the price of one.

LH423



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User currently offlineFlyAUA From Austria, joined May 2005, 4604 posts, RR: 56
Reply 11, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 1764 times:

Quoting Catatonic (Thread starter):
Ok, how would I go about getting a US passport?

Why would you want to do that to yourself?  laughing 



Not drinking, also isn't a solution!
User currently offlineBristolFlyer From United Kingdom, joined May 2004, 2290 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 1744 times:

Quoting Catatonic (Thread starter):
So I guess getting a passport must be pretty easy,

 laughing 

Assuming this isn't a joke, the easiest way is limited to marriage to a US citizen. But you'll get tested to make sure it isn't a sham (such as questions like 'what colour is her toothbrush, who is her favourite pop group etc).

Quoting Omoo (Reply 9):
A shortcut will be to have a special skill (needed skill), things like Super Smart Scientist or invest a lot of money in the US

You won't get a US passport with investing, you'll get a visa that allows you to be in the US as long as your company is up & running (I know, I've got one). I'm pretty sure you won't get a passport if you're super skilled either, just a visa.



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User currently offlineTedTAce From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 1744 times:

Should be a green card in a Cracker Jack box somewhere..

User currently offlineNoelg From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 1734 times:

Quoting Catatonic (Thread starter):
So I guess getting a passport must be pretty easy

ROTFLMAO!!

We've been looking at moving abroad and the US is pretty much impossible to get into unless you're A) Especially skilled, B) Marrying a Yank or C) Setting up a business over there or D) a Green Card. The UK can't take part in the Green Card lottery, and there's only a certain number of places available anyway, so that leaves it to A, B or C. B isn't an option since I'm married already and A is only an option if you're mega skilled (some sort of scientist, or an entertainer etc). C is only an option if you're willing to ply thousands and thousands of dollars into the US economy so it pretty much rules it out!

Oh and presuming you get past this stage, you then have to wait a couple of years and apply again for citizenship when the whole process pretty much starts again.

Looking at it, the US seems to be the most difficult place to get into, along with Australia/NZ. Canada is pretty cool at the moment and we could get in on points, we're going over in January to have a look around as my wife has never been before we start filling in the forms.

The foreigners driving cabs most likely used the green card route and got lucky!

Noel.

[Edited 2005-09-08 17:18:19]

User currently offlineUAL747 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 1734 times:

Quoting TedTAce (Reply 13):
Should be a green card in a Cracker Jack box somewhere.

*UAL laughing his ass off*

Edited: Isn't the naturalization time 17 yrs or something like that? Anyway, yes, getting into the US and becoming a citizen is even more difficult now. The benefits are pretty good of doing such, but the thing is, why come to a country where you have no ties? A long time ago, when the US was having it's first immigrants up until after WWII, there were places to conquer, and resources to work with. Now there is hardly any place that isn't developed or owned by someone. It's not like you would be able to come here, un-sponsored by a company, and set up a nice house for you and your children. This is why I don't understand illegal immigration from Mexico. Unless you have a full US citizenship, you are never going to get a high paying job and live a typical middle class life, unless you work yourselves off as domestic help, or some kind of trade. Colleges won't take you or your children, and EVERY large corporation checks to see if you are allowed to work in the US, unless you come here speaking AMERICAN English, have AMERICAN mannerisms, KNOW AMERICAN culture, and look AMERICAN...otherwise, they'll be checking out exactly WHO you are.

That being said, my friend Matt and his family immigrated from Canada to the US (albeit when he was 8 yrs old in 1988). His father is a doctor and left Canada because medicine is so socialized, or at least that is what he said, and he would make more money in the US. And, I have a bucnh of friends who's parents immigrated from India, Pakistan, and Lebanon. The lebanese population in OKC that I know is pretty much 2nd generation as their parents were the ones who immigrated. But as said before, their parents are and probably were, very well off, doctors.

UAL

[Edited 2005-09-08 17:22:54]

[Edited 2005-09-08 17:26:00]

User currently offlineRojo From Spain, joined Sep 2000, 2443 posts, RR: 9
Reply 16, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 1715 times:

Quoting Catatonic (Thread starter):
Ok, how would I go about getting a US passport? I dont really want to live there but I get a bit fed up standing in the que's for immigration.

If you don't like to queue up at US immigration, then take a flight to the US that arrives at times where there is not much arrival traffic or use airlines with their own immigration at their terminal. For example, AA flights from LHR-JFK arrive at their own terminal and if you fly on either AA107 or AA141 (9:05pm and 10:45pm arrival) you will find no queue. You can also use airports with not much immigration traffic or with huge immigration facilities (ie. IAH/DFW/PHX/DTW, etc) as your gateway to the US and then connect to your final destination.

Quoting Catatonic (Thread starter):
Last time it was about an hour and US nationals went straight through

I have seen the opposite. I flew MEX-DFW-LGW last March (during the last day of spring break) and just had a 1 hour connecting time in DFW. When I saw the line for immigration, I was sure I would not make my LGW flight. Then a lady said "foreign nationals, please proceed to the front of the line, US nationals, please stay here". You will not believe the line for US nationals, it was huuuuge. It only took me 10 minutes to clear immigration while it should have been like an hour for US nationals...


User currently offlineBritish767 From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2005, 284 posts, RR: 21
Reply 17, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 1702 times:

Quoting Catatonic (Thread starter):
Last time it was about an hour and US nationals went straight through.

Have you ever seen the line for immigration for non-EU citizens at LHR? Every time I have flown into LHR from the US, the long is huge. A friend of mine has an American father and therefore an American passport. He had to wait 3 hours in a line for immigration at LHR. Much worse than when the Brits have to queue in the US (most I have waited in 30 mins).


User currently offlineLindy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 1701 times:

Quoting UAL747 (Reply 15):
Isn't the naturalization time 17 yrs or something like that?

Naturalization takes 5 years. I'm happy that I have US passport. Its good to have it in Europe (go to lines All other passports), usually there is no line because everybody goes to EU lines. Coming back to US - dont have to wait hours in line with turists.  Smile

US Passport = sweet deal Big grin

Rafal


User currently offlineAA777 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 2544 posts, RR: 28
Reply 19, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 1691 times:
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Wanna trade U.S. for U.K? Maybe we can arrage that.

-AA777


User currently offlineN1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 26361 posts, RR: 76
Reply 20, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 1688 times:

Quoting BristolFlyer (Reply 12):
I'm pretty sure you won't get a passport if you're super skilled either, just a visa.

You will likely get a green card under sponsorship from your employer

Quoting UAL747 (Reply 15):
Isn't the naturalization time 17 yrs or something like that?

5 years from the time you get a green card



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User currently offlineSATX From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 2840 posts, RR: 7
Reply 21, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 1683 times:

Quoting QANTASforever (Reply 4):
You need to have a respect for that nation and make a deep committment to it. It's like a marriage.

If it's like a marriage, then what's this nonsense about respect and commitment?  Wink



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User currently offlinePilotaydin From Turkey, joined Sep 2004, 2539 posts, RR: 51
Reply 22, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 1662 times:

ah yes...this topic again....

trust me, there are some that lived there (hint), that paid taxes, spoke the language properly and trained flight students - but they were denied Green Cards...you're going for the Citizenship...the gold!

Life is unfair, so you might end up being like those tons of Cubans and Mexicans that can't speak a word of English, but are allowed to live and work in the usa....

try

www.marrymeforgreencard.com



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User currently offlineBritish767 From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2005, 284 posts, RR: 21
Reply 23, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 1651 times:

Quoting British767 (Reply 17):
Every time I have flown into LHR from the US, the long is huge.

Oops, typo. Was ment to say "Every time I have flown into LHR from the US, the line for non-EU citizens is huge."

[Edited 2005-09-08 19:39:19]

User currently offlineRojo From Spain, joined Sep 2000, 2443 posts, RR: 9
Reply 24, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 1641 times:

Quoting N1120A (Reply 20):
You will likely get a green card under sponsorship from your employer

If I remember correctly, a green card is just another name for a permanent resident visa. When you are sponsored by an employer, you get either an H or L visa first (temporary resident visa) which you can change to a permanent resident visa after some time (three or five years, don't remember). Then you can apply for Citizenship (after 5 years?).


25 Xpat : I think that might come uder the special skill category. You really are living up to your user name, CATATONIC!
26 Post contains links Noelg : You cannot get into the USA on a Green Card if you were born in the UK. The Green Card scheme excludes the UK. Take a look at http://uscis.gov/graphic
27 Omoo : That's what i ment to say. You do not get Citizenship right away. It takes 5 years after getting a green card to get citizenship if you are not marri
28 Post contains images BigOrange : If this is meant to be a serious answer then you must believe in Aliens and the tooth fairy It doesn't happen that way. If you want to go down the ma
29 Post contains images BristolFlyer : If you're on an investor's visa you'll never get citizenship. You have to re-apply for the visa every 5 yrs (and that involves a trip to the UE Embas
30 BigOrange : Naturalization is 5 years. Not true. As long as you have permanent residency i.e. a green card, you can work here, and compared to the UK, most jobs
31 UAL747 : Whoops, I should have explained myself better, or rather, not said I what I did. What I meant to say, is it will be very difficult for you here if yo
32 StevenUhl777 : Assuming no serious brushes with the law...otherwise, forget it...
33 Post contains images LH423 : Not entirely true. UK citizens aren't eligible for the Green Card lottery. However, there is no shortage of UK citizens living in the US on green car
34 57AZ : You guessed wrong. It's not easy. The Morrocan and other cab drivers you refer to have likely been in the states for years on Green Card status pendi
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