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A List Of FEMA's Screw-ups In New Orleans  
User currently offlineClickhappy From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 9668 posts, RR: 68
Posted (9 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 6166 times:
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FEMA won't accept Amtrak's help in evacuations
http://news.ft.com/cms/s/84aa35cc-1da8-11da-b40b-00000e..

FEMA turns away experienced firefighters
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2005/9/5/105538/7048

FEMA turns back Wal-Mart supply trucks
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/09/05/national/nationalspec..

FEMA prevents Coast Guard from delivering diesel fuel
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/09/05/national/nationalspec..

FEMA won't let Red Cross deliver food
http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/05246/565143.stm

FEMA bars morticians from entering New Orleans
http://www.zwire.com/site/news.cfm?newsid=15147862&BRD=...

FEMA blocks 500-boat citizen flotilla from delivering aid
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2005/9/3/171718/0826

FEMA fails to utilize Navy ship with 600-bed hospital on board
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/chi-0509..

FEMA to Chicago: Send just one truck
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/chi-050902dale..

FEMA turns away generators
http://www.wwltv.com/local/stories/WWLBLOG.ac3fcea.html

FEMA: "First Responders Urged Not To Respond"
http://www.fema.gov/news/newsrelease.fema?id=18470

That last one is real -- not satire but straight from FEMA's website.

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User currently offlineBN747 From United States of America, joined Mar 2002, 5620 posts, RR: 51
Reply 1, posted (9 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 6162 times:

Let me get a very comfortable chair and sit back and watch the 'Righties' come at that argument with an axe....


BN747



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User currently offlineItsjustme From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 2808 posts, RR: 9
Reply 2, posted (9 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 6152 times:

Hey now, go easy on FEMA and "Brownie". It's not his fault he went from judging competitions for Arabian show horses (a job from which he was fired) to being expected to lead the rescue efforts of tens of thousands of people. And besides, according to our president, he's doing a "heck of a job".

User currently offlineTbar220 From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 7013 posts, RR: 25
Reply 3, posted (9 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 6149 times:

You know, the scary thing is that I wish you were making this shit up. I really, really wish you were making this up...

This is downright criminal. Michael Brown needs to be fired NOW. Not only does he need to be fired, but if it is found that he was involved in any of the orders to turn back any sort of supplies, that should be criminal and he should be sent to jail.



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User currently offlineMD-90 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 8508 posts, RR: 12
Reply 4, posted (9 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 6139 times:

Just goes to show how FEMA seems to be more concerned about protecting its turf, like any federal bureaucracy, than actually getting things done.

User currently offlineHalls120 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (9 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 6118 times:

Quoting MD-90 (Reply 4):
Just goes to show how FEMA seems to be more concerned about protecting its turf, like any federal bureaucracy, than actually getting things done.

Before DHS was created, FEMA was a fairly well-functioning agency. Once DHS stood up, its single minded focus on terrorism pushed FEMA to the back of the room.

TSA was a bad idea, and DHS was an even worse idea. Maybe Congress will come to its senses and pass legislation that addresses the mess we've created in Washington.

By the way, none of the links to the NY Times seem to work.


User currently offlineMidnightMike From United States of America, joined Mar 2003, 2892 posts, RR: 14
Reply 6, posted (9 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 6103 times:

Has anybody actually bothered to read the news stories, in some of them, there were legimate concerns.

Does anybody realized that FEMA was sucked into the Homeline Defense Department back in 2003, since that time, there have been numerous disasters in the United States, so far, every other state has not had any problems.....

Here is the mission of FEMA, which people seem to be confused about:

Quote:
The Federal Emergency Management Agency - a former independent agency that became part of the new Department of Homeland Security in March 2003 - is tasked with responding to, planning for, recovering from and mitigating against disasters.

In times of crisis, the local government is the 1st responder, if they can not handle the problem, they turn to the state, if the state can not handle the problem the state then turns to the Federal Government.

I am beginning to think that people do not understand the roles of FEMA & how the government really works..... There are only about 2,000 people in FEMA



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User currently offlineMD-90 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 8508 posts, RR: 12
Reply 7, posted (9 years 3 months 3 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 6082 times:

Quoting MidnightMike (Reply 6):
there have been numerous disasters in the United States, so far, every other state has not had any problems.....

NOTHING has ever hit the USA like this since the great San Francisco earthquake.


User currently offlineJeffM From United States of America, joined May 2005, 3266 posts, RR: 51
Reply 8, posted (9 years 3 months 3 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 6075 times:

Quoting MidnightMike (Reply 6):
Has anybody actually bothered to read the news stories, in some of them, there were legimate concerns.

Come now Mike, you don't think the poster would actually admit there might have been valid reasons behind some of these claims? Why that might actually imply there were people that had a plan and could make logical decisions based on reason, not just an emotional reaction.

I know it is hard to believe, but how could such a pillar of journalistic accuracy such as the "Daily KOS" be so wrong? It is so much easier to point a finger then to lift one.


User currently offlineANCFlyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (9 years 3 months 3 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 6066 times:

While I assure you FEMA has screwed the pooch on this disaster, in a lot of ways, in a lot of places I can also assure you the local government in NOLA is ten times more dicked up than FEMA could ever be . . . .

Until you read the Louisiana Emergency Operations Plan, and see for yourself just how literally fucked up Baton ROuge and NOLA were/are in their readiness, you need - whomever you are - to STFU about the Federal Government response.  headache 

It is the ultimate; the epitomy of Pot, Pot, Black . . . period.

Quoting Halls120 (Reply 5):
TSA was a bad idea

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Candidate for Understatement of the Century Award  wink 


User currently offlineMidnightMike From United States of America, joined Mar 2003, 2892 posts, RR: 14
Reply 10, posted (9 years 3 months 3 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 6064 times:

Quoting MD-90 (Reply 7):
Quoting MidnightMike (Reply 6):
there have been numerous disasters in the United States, so far, every other state has not had any problems.....

NOTHING has ever hit the USA like this since the great San Francisco earthquake.

A disaster is a disaster, and you have a plan to deal with a disaster.

The Mayor of New Orleans has a plan, if the disaster is to big for the city, he requests help from the State.

The Governor of Louisiana has a plan, if the disaster is to big for the state, she requests help from the Federal Government.

There was no communication between the Mayor & the Governor, as anybody in the military will tell you, if the chain-of-command breaks down, you have another problem.....



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User currently offlineTbar220 From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 7013 posts, RR: 25
Reply 11, posted (9 years 3 months 3 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 6058 times:

Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 9):
Until you read the Louisiana Emergency Operations Plan, and see for yourself just how literally fucked up Baton ROuge and NOLA were/are in their readiness, you need - whomever you are - to STFU about the Federal Government response.

1. Post the plan in its entirety so I can read it.
2. Don't tell me not to criticize the Federal Government response. You don't like what I'm saying so you tell me to shutup? That's unlike you ANC. Am I suddenly only allowed to criticize the government if I have read the plan? Ridiculous dude.

MidnightMike,

Did you read my post? I made posts that showed (with links) that the governor asked for federal aid because she foresaw that the disaster would be beyond the state's control.

Do you have a link for your claim of "no communication between mayor and governor"? Its easy to make assumptions like that so that you can make your point.



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User currently offlineUAL747 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (9 years 3 months 3 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 6056 times:

After FEMA was put into the Department of Homeland Security, their focus has changed from natural disasters to terrorism. And, funding for their natural disaster programs has failed. Midnightmike mentioned how the progression goes, local-->state-->federal, HOWEVER you have to remember that this is probably the worst case of chaos ever seen in a disaster of this magnitude in the United States. I hate to say this, but since it hit a poor area of New Orleans, this caused the choas to be more "chaotic." People don't have the money to leave before the hurricane, and people are willing to do anything to defend what they have. There was no way the state or local governments could have taken care of this problem. The Feds should have been there a lot sooner. But like I said, the progression Midnighmike talks about is theoretically correct, but that's just what is written in paper. Every disaster is its own animal, and FEMA and state and local governments need to realize that. There is no cookie cutter answer to every disaster. The thing is, the Bush administration is taking a TON of heat because of this, so they keep pushing the blame on the local government, but the local government and state governments have NO WAY of handling this.

Anyway, back to the FEMA thing. Like I said, their focus since 9/11 has been terrorism. In fact, I watched something on CNN last night, where they reported that FEMA was instructed NOT to take any refugees aboard military aircraft until they could find enough security screeners to screen the refugees before they got on the aircraft to be airlifted out, because they were concerned that someone might be a terrorist. I'm sorry I don't have a link or anything, just caught that on the news last night.

Secondly, the President, for his own image, needs to set up camp in LA for a while and not just go there for day and shake people's hands. If he wants to save ANY sort of sympathetic image he has, he needs to be down there working his ass off like EVERY OTHER individual. I think this would not only do a lot for his image, but it could be a real turning point for the continual bad press he's gotten in his second term. Screw the security BS, he needs to quit being a pussywhipped puppet and take back some southern ethic, get his hands dirty, and help. But then again, I'm just as happy with the liberals pointing out the faults in the president as he sits in Washington in his suit.

UAL


User currently offlineANCFlyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (9 years 3 months 3 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 6049 times:

Quoting Tbar220 (Reply 11):
1. Post the plan in its entirety so I can read it.

I posted the link on 5 different threads here. It's over 40 pages, I'm not posting the damn thing when you could go read it yourself (and the Mods would can it anyway likely) . . . and have a broader knowledge base of the FACTS instead of simply pounding on the feds with HALF the information.

Quoting Tbar220 (Reply 11):
You don't like what I'm saying so you tell me to shutup?

Not telling YOU TBar - telling others, anyone in general - spouting off their mouths without taking all information in to account . . . especially Louisiana's own plan which in my opinion is a very vital piece of the puzzle when it comes to pointing blame fingers . . .

If the combat boot fits, well . . . . so be it.

Quoting Tbar220 (Reply 11):
Am I suddenly only allowed to criticize the government if I have read the plan?

Obviously not - you're already doing it . . .  wink 


User currently offlineAa777jr From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (9 years 3 months 3 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 6046 times:

Get real, FEMA has been crap even before it was under DHS. They are always late in responding to any national disaster. Blame should be assigned to state and local government and officials. Why is New Orleans relying heavily on FEMA to bail them out? Cause their local emergency response was non existent. I am so tired of checking webpasge after webpage of news only to read about this stuff.


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User currently offlineAeroWesty From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 20822 posts, RR: 62
Reply 15, posted (9 years 3 months 3 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 6042 times:

Quoting Aa777jr (Reply 14):
Get real, FEMA has been crap even before it was under DHS. They are always late in responding to any national disaster.

They were out in force pretty quick after the hurricanes in Florida last year handing out money and relief aid. But that was in an election year in a swing state where the Governor is the brother of President  conehead .



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User currently offlineN766UA From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 8379 posts, RR: 23
Reply 16, posted (9 years 3 months 3 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 6037 times:

Quoting BN747 (Reply 1):
Let me get a very comfortable chair and sit back and watch the 'Righties' come at that argument with an axe....

What the hell does this have to do with political affiliation?



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User currently offlineAa777jr From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (9 years 3 months 3 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 6033 times:

Quoting AeroWesty (Reply 15):
They were out in force pretty quick after the hurricanes in Florida last year handing out money and relief aid. But that was in an election year in a swing state where the Governor is the brother of President

Looks like you made your own point. Also, there is still a ton of insurance guys down in Florida writing checks. Did the Govenor of New Orleans react as quickly as Florida? I doubt it. Watching the Mayor of New Orleans daily on CNN is laughable. Where were you sir when your people needed you? No comment.


User currently offlineAeroWesty From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 20822 posts, RR: 62
Reply 18, posted (9 years 3 months 3 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 6029 times:

Quoting Aa777jr (Reply 17):
Looks like you made your own point. Also, there is still a ton of insurance guys down in Florida writing checks.

Seems there's a virus going around that makes people read posts and flight schedules with equal comprehension.



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User currently offlineAsstChiefMark From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (9 years 3 months 3 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 6023 times:

When all the finger pointing is done, there's one person that will be the most to blame.

Governor Blanco before Katrina:


Governor Blanco now:


She simply didn't ask for help soon enough. Now she's refusing to authorize the forced evacuation of New Orleans. She says she needs more proof that the water is harmful. What a hesitant neurotic!


User currently offlineMD-90 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 8508 posts, RR: 12
Reply 20, posted (9 years 3 months 3 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 6010 times:

Quoting MidnightMike (Reply 10):
A disaster is a disaster, and you have a plan to deal with a disaster.

You haven't seen the coast of Mississippi, have you? I've already been to Bay St. Louis and back to help salvage one of my friend's family possessions.


User currently offlineANCFlyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (9 years 3 months 3 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 6000 times:

Quoting MD-90 (Reply 20):
I've already been to Bay St. Louis and back to help salvage one of my friend's family possessions.

I trust your friend got out of there before the hurricane hit? Good for him/her. And my best wishes for him/her starting a new life, as generally, everything along the coast there is gone.


User currently offlineMidnightMike From United States of America, joined Mar 2003, 2892 posts, RR: 14
Reply 22, posted (9 years 3 months 3 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 5992 times:

Quoting MD-90 (Reply 20):
Quoting MidnightMike (Reply 10):
A disaster is a disaster, and you have a plan to deal with a disaster.

You haven't seen the coast of Mississippi, have you? I've already been to Bay St. Louis and back to help salvage one of my friend's family possessions.

Just what I saw on TV, which does not mean that I do not understand the size of the disaster....



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User currently offlineTbar220 From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 7013 posts, RR: 25
Reply 23, posted (9 years 3 months 3 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 5973 times:

ANC,

har har har

Do you have a link to one of the threads where you posted it? I'd like to read it.

AsstChiefMark,

Governor Blanco asked for federal assistance before the storm hit, saying that the disaster would be out of the state's ability.



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User currently offlineANCFlyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (9 years 3 months 3 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 5967 times:

TBar:

Your wish is granted:

Here's one of the threads . . .
"George Bush Doesn't Care About Black People" (by TedTAce Sep 3 2005 in Non Aviation)
Here's the link directly to the plan - AGAIN :
http://www.ohsep.louisiana.gov/plans...h='Louisiana%20Emergency%20plan'

And some other info of interest:


I recently received the following from a very reliable source (a retired Army One Star General of unquestionable repute). The source of this info is irrefutable in my book, having known the gentleman since 1979, he is of unquestionable integrity. He indicated the information came from a fellow Army Major General. The message in fact continues to support the facts that the Mayor and the Governor failed to act in a timely and responsible manner in this situation.



Message reads as follows:



On Friday night before the storm hit, Max Mayfield, of the National Hurricane Center took the unprecedented action of calling Nagin and Blanco personally to plead with them to begin MANDATORY evacuation of NO and they said they'd take it under consideration. This was after the NOAA buoy 240 miles south had recorded 68' waves before it was destroyed. President Bush spent Friday afternoon and evening in meetings with his advisors and administrators drafting all of the paperwork required for a state to request federal assistance (and not be in violation of the Posse Comitatus Act or having to enact the Insurgency Act). Just before midnight Friday evening the President called Governor Blanco and pleaded with her to sign the request papers so the federal government and the military could legally begin mobilization and call up. He was told that they didn't think it necessary for the federal government to be involved yet. After the President's final call to the governor she held meetings with her staff to discuss the political ramifications of bringing federal forces. It was decided that if they allowed federal assistance it would make it look as if they had failed so it was agreed upon that the feds would not be invited in. Saturday before the storm hit the President again called Blanco and Nagin requesting they please sign the papers requesting federal assistance, that they declare the state an emergency area, and begin mandatory evacuation. After a personal plea from the President Nagin agreed to order an evacuation, but it would not be a full mandatory evacuation, and the governor still refused to sign the papers requesting and authorizing federal action. In frustration the President declared the area a national disaster area before the state of Louisiana did so he could legally begin some advanced preparations. Rumor has it that the President's legal advisers were looking into the ramifications of using the insurgency act to bypass the Constitutional requirement that a state request federal aid before the federal government can move into state with troops - but that had not been done since 1906 and the Constitutionality of it was called into question to use before the disaster. Throw in that over half the federal aid of the past decade to NO for levee construction, maintenance, and repair was diverted to fund a marina and support the gambling ships. Toss in the investigation that will look into why the emergency preparedness plan submitted to the federal government for funding and published on the city's website was never implemented and in fact may have been bogus for the purpose of gaining additional federal funding as we now learn that the organizations identified in the plan were never contacted or coordinating into any planning - though the document implies that they were. The suffering people of NO need to be asking some hard questions as do we all, but they better start with why Blanco refused to even sign the multi-state mutual aid pack activation documents until Wednesday which further delayed the legal deployment of National Guard from adjoining states. Or maybe ask why Nagin keeps harping that the President should have commandeered 500 Greyhound busses to help him when according to his own emergency plan and documents he claimed to have over 500 busses at his disposal to use between the local school busses and the city transportation busses - but he never raised a finger to prepare them or activate them. This is a sad time for all of us to see that a major city has all but been destroyed and thousands of people have died with hundreds of thousands more suffering, but it's certainly not a time for people to be pointing fingers and trying to find a bigger dog to blame for local corruption and incompetence. Pray to God for the survivors that they can start their lives anew as fast as possible and we learn from all the mistakes to avoid them in the future.


25 Tbar220 : Thanks for the website, it wasn't that hard to post it again was it?
26 Post contains images ANCFlyer : Sorry, I thought you wanted me to post the whole damn op order . . . my bad. . . .
27 Aa777jr : Source?
28 Post contains images ANCFlyer : Read my reply 24 to see how that is.
29 Post contains links 11Bravo : http://gov.louisiana.gov/Disaster%20Relief%20Request.pdf Bottom of first page.
30 Post contains images EA CO AS : And Clickhappy's "let's see how many threads I can start today" tour continues... Do you ever actually contribute anything here?
31 MD-90 : Her parents retired to a nice apartment about a mile (as the crow flies) from the beach in Bay St. Louis. They, of course, drove up to Starkville on
32 Post contains links Dan-Air : Your source? http://mediamatters.org/items/200509080022 (yes I know it's a "liberal site", they cite sources for the timeline): An August 28 statemen
33 Post contains images ANCFlyer : Thanks for that info Dan-Air . . . I appreciate all sources of info . . well, unless they come from some member's Mothership or a guy named Lew . I d
34 Bobster2 : If that's true, and I strongly suspect that it is, there should be criminal prosecutions of the people responsible. This is much closer to homicide t
35 ANCFlyer : Although I would tend to agree with you, I won't pass judgement on that - not my place. When, and I mean when, what ever investigations and hearings
36 Wobbles : I don't want to hear anything about the local/state government taking most of the blame for the slow response, particulary after the hurricane hit. Fo
37 Post contains images ANCFlyer : Using your anaology above where, Wobbles, was the common sense in waiting until Sunday morning before Mayor issued an evacuation order with a Categor
38 Wobbles : I think the evacuation was given on Sat. nite and it did not become a 5 (even though, granted it was still at least a 3 on Th/F) until Sunday. Again,
39 Post contains images ANCFlyer : Negative . . . the evacuation order issued by the Mayor was Sunday morning. . . and it specifically included the infamous "Go to the Superdome". Furt
40 102IAHexpress : The problem with shifting most of the blame towards NOLA and the State of Louisiana is that, the response was also abysmal in Mississippi. Did the loc
41 MD-90 : Hurricanes are unpredictable and evacuations are expensive.
42 L-188 : I personally can't wait to find out what an investigation is going to find out about the screw-ups the local goverments made. I think there is a lot o
43 ANCFlyer : Very . . . That said, it doesn't take a Rocket Scientist to see a 300 mile wide (plus) storm front with cat 5/4 winds will knock your ass for a loop
44 Post contains links and images Magnetass : No flames....just some common sense. When you inject the phrase "Federal Government" into ANYTHING, it gets all boogered up. NOTHING works as well as
45 MD-90 : Definately. I would've hauled ass out of there, for sure. Screw classes. One of my friends who goes to LSU is still here in Starkville. I wonder when
46 Roger136913 : Magnetass The Police chief of NO was on the record tonight as stating they had no buses, they asked the Federal Government for buses (this was Monday)
47 Post contains images EA CO AS : If only more people understood this...or if the media would report it...
48 Magnetass : Yup....thats the point. If you have a cat 4 Hurricane bearing down on you, probably the time to use the transportation is before it hits, huh? You can
49 MidnightMike : Well said, even President Bush has said let the charities & relief oranizations come in & do their job.... Based on some of the comments, I do not th
50 Magnetass : NO, hardly anybody understands what it is they are blabbering about, but it sure doesn't keep 'em from blabbering about it. The expectation that thing
51 MidnightMike : Yep, that is why everything works better from the bottom to the top, Mayor Governor Federal I keep using the 9/11 comparison and how Mayor Guilliani
52 Post contains images ANCFlyer : The Chief was commendable . . . even when half his department bailed out. Too bad he was stuck working for a limp dick Mayor with the leadership and
53 Mham001 : A myth. Yes, you could say they turned away the buses from one parish, just to send them to another that was underwater and more in need of immediate
54 Roger136913 : ANCFLYER I can't help but wonder if the Chief was trying to stick up for the Mayor? Noble but the Mayor left him high and dry.
55 Post contains images ANCFlyer : Perhaps publicly - but I can assure you, put me in the Chief's chair and my conversation with Mayor would be something along the lines of: You chicke
56 Roger136913 : Yea I could see how that might get one fired, but the truth speaks volumes! Nagin has been quiet of late along with Blanco. My Mother In-Law who lives
57 Post contains images ANCFlyer : That's because "John Wayne" LTG Russel Honore' is in fact in charge . . . period. I hope your M-I-L came through this okay.
58 Post contains links AeroWesty : They certainly did exercise the plan, in July 2004. It was named "Hurricane Pam". http://www.fema.gov/emanagers/2004/nat072504.shtm The Times-Picayun
59 ANCFlyer : Westy - only parts of the plan . . . no one moved a bus, no one moved a person, no one evaced to the Dome, the hospitals/retirement homes weren't incl
60 AeroWesty : I agree 100%. So tell me now, where in the "plan" does it call for FEMA coming into Jefferson Parish, cutting all their emergency service lines, and
61 Post contains images J_Hallgren : I would also heartily concur with these sentiments! It seems (from profile/text) that Magnetass is one of few who has the proper understanding of wha
62 Post contains images ANCFlyer : Noting the facetious tone in this statement   , I can tell you, looking at Section VII, page VII-1 of the infamous State of Louisiana Emergency Ope
63 MidnightMike : Out of all the disasters that have happened over the years, the only problem has been with New Orleans. The system that we have in place worked just
64 ANCFlyer : And that my friends speaks VOLUMES!!!!! Nuf Said.
65 AeroWesty : No argument there. Now let the system review what was right and wrong, whether FEMA lead our nation's first responders to a cohesive and effective pl
66 AeroWesty : I concur. I also believe that one of the roles of FEMA is to "coordinate" a standardized emergency plan, including chains of command, who goes where
67 Post contains images ANCFlyer : And you KNOW the ambulance chasers are just wringing their hands in anticipation . . . where the hell is John Edwards?
68 Post contains images AeroWesty : Mmhmm, he popped up on CNN the other night ... I'm sure there have been strategy meetings all over the nation over the past two weeks on how to juggl
69 Bobster2 : By putting all the blame on the government we're underestimating the chaos caused by the criminals who were shooting at police, fire fighters, doctors
70 AGM100 : Sad very sad ,, but that is why you should never rely on the government to save you. The only thing the Fed should be doing anyway is defense. I guara
71 Post contains links J_Hallgren : Reviving this thread to share a link to story that I thought others might find worthwhile... http://www.palmbeachpost.com/storm/c...2005/09/10/m1a_res
72 S12PPL : Man you're dumb...*shakes head* You just don't get it, do you??? FEMA's entire purpose is to prevent this scale of fall out from a disaster.
73 Post contains images Flyingbronco05 : But there is a Republican in the white house
74 ANCFlyer : S12, re-read my statement you quoted in your reply 72, if it applies, use it.
75 DC10GUY : The reasons for the problems in NO after Katrina are simple. Black mayor, Democrat women govenor. Ask any rightie you see, they will all tell you the
76 Post contains links AeroWesty : As an addendum to this story, one of the headline stories from this week's Newsweek: "Bureaucratic timidity. Bad phone lines. And a failure of imagina
77 Rsmith6621a : The one who appointed him also should be held equally liable and anyone who said.......Brownie.....your doing a heck of a job.
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