LTBEWR From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 13199 posts, RR: 15
Reply 3, posted (9 years 3 months 1 week 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 1392 times:
His demotion last Friday was basically his being told to resign. In a statment, he noted his resignation was for the good of FEMA, the victims of Katrina and for the President. Well at least we, uh the Bushies, got someone to be the sacrifical lamb. Didn't this guy know what he was getting into? I would suspect he may have a hard time getting another job unless it involves the pharse "do you want fries with that?"
SATX From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 2840 posts, RR: 7
Reply 13, posted (9 years 3 months 1 week 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 1315 times:
Would two years ago have been too much to ask? Finally, a yes man bites the dust instead of another would-be dissenter. Good riddance.
Before joining the DHS/FEMA, Brown was the Judges and Stewards Commissioner for the International Arabian Horse Association, (IAHA), from 1989-2001. After numerous lawsuits were filed against the organization over disciplinary actions, Brown was forced to resign.
Brown started his own legal defense fund before resigning, a move he said was necessary to protect his family's assets.  However, some IAHA insiders claimed that this was what really led to his ouster. He raised money from breeders for the fund as well as IAHA, creating a conflict of interest. Also, his contract stipulated that IAHA was to pay all his personal legal expenses, on top of his $100,000 annual salary, so there was speculation as to why he needed a personal legal defense fund.  IAHA became financially depleted, and had to be merged with the Arabian Horse Registry of America. 
Bush administration service
After Bush entered office in January 2001, Brown joined FEMA as General Counsel. He was the first person hired by his long-time friend and college roommate, then-FEMA director Joe Allbaugh, who also ran Bush's election campaign in 2000. Allbaugh later named Brown his acting deputy director in September 2001. President Bush formally nominated him as deputy director on March 22, 2002, and the Senate confirmed many months later. Soon after, President Bush nominated him again in January 2003 for the directorship when Allbaugh left to join a private company. Brown was sworn in to his position on April 15, 2003.
FlyingTexan From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (9 years 3 months 1 week 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 1296 times:
Quoting STLGph (Reply 14): Well, there's always that extra Supreme Court seat....
Haha - I enjoy STLGph's posts!
And, thank you, SATX, for posting that Wikipedia piece. Allbaugh (former FEMA director) was Chief of Staff when GW was Governor of Texas. He is now a lobbyist for - ahhh KBR (Halliburton Company) - making tons more $$$. He was heavily involved in W's campaign (I forget which position).
Of course, they could continue to snivel and whine like little bitches about how it's all PotUS fault, rather than admit they had plan no one ever really exercised (regardless of what is on paper), and have over 200 busses drowned in NOLA somewhere and no communication system and no logistics prepositioned . . .
Read through the Louisiana Emergency Operations plan again this morning, and continue find abysmal failures on the part of the State and City Governments. Another example:
Part II, Section B, Para 14: Hospitals, Nursing Homes, Group Homes, etc. will have predetermined and/or refuge plans if evacuation becomes necessary. All facilities will have approved Multi-Hazard Emergency Operations Plans as mandated by the State of Louisiana, Dept. of Health and Hospitals (DHH). Before Operating permits are given to homes/hospitals, emergency precautions are to be taken, such as the placement of emergency supplies and adequate equipment (i.e. generators and potable water) on upper floors.
Yes, another example of failure . . . certified hospitals without proper emergency supplies.
EDIT: Neglected to mention - I hope the door hits Brown in the ass on the way out . . . he needed to be fired . . .
AeroWesty From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 20822 posts, RR: 62
Reply 18, posted (9 years 3 months 1 week 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 1268 times:
Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 16): Before Operating permits are given to homes/hospitals, emergency precautions are to be taken, such as the placement of emergency supplies and adequate equipment (i.e. generators and potable water) on upper floors.
I'm sure the definition of "adequate" will be debated in the reviews of what went wrong. Such as the delivery of enough food and water to the Superdome to feed 15,000 for 3 days suddenly became inadequate when 30,000 showed up.
Dan-Air From United States of America, joined Sep 1999, 614 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (9 years 3 months 1 week 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 1222 times:
Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 20): Agreed Westy - a lot to be debated and refined. Let's hope there are lessons learned - and that learning is exercised - at all levels . . .Beginning with a a viable plan for use of existing transportation.
Prepositioning of Logistical Requirements - Food, Water, for starters.
On and On and On . . . .
What you say makes a lot of sense, and I agree.
However, the majority of your posts on this matter try to swing blame toward any available Democrat.
Where's your criticism for David Vitter - you know, the other senator from Louisiana, that has been conspicious by his absence from the relief effort. Oh, that's right - he's a REPUBLICAN - gets a free pass from ANCFlyer.
And your President? He said this today, in a pitiful defense of his claim last week that "no-one thought the levees would be breeched":
"What I was referring to is this: When that storm came by, a lot of people said we dodged a bullet. When that storm came through at first, people said, Whew. There was a sense of relaxation. And that’s what I was referring to.
"And I myself thought we had dodged a bullet. You know why? Because I was listening to people probably over the airwaves say, The bullet has been dodged. And that was what I was referring to."
Is he even fucking concious? I read today that WH staff were drawing straws for who would have to give Bush the bad news about the situation in New Orleans, not because they were afraid of the his reaction to the catastrophe, but him facing the prospect of having to cut short his vacation. Some sense of priority huh?
In an emergency of this magnitude, FEMA is supposed to be on-site with 72 hours. Gov. Blanco told Bush ON SATURDAY that they needed "everything you've got". 5 days later, still very little evidence of a federal response. Face facts ANC, Bush gutted FEMA - appointing cronies to the most critical positions - and all this AFTER 9/11.
And now, as happened in Iraq, after the incompetence, the corruption kicks in. You've got former FEMA head and Bush campaign chair Allbaugh getting no bids contracts for the likes of Halliburton KBR - after they skimmed hundreds of millions of your taxpayer dollars in Iraq. Rewarding thievery, it's the Bush family way.
ANCFlyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 23, posted (9 years 3 months 1 week 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 1198 times:
Quoting Dan-Air (Reply 22): However, the majority of your posts on this matter try to swing blame on any available Democrat.
First of all, that's bullshit. Never, ever once have I specifically named a party, ever - when it related to the debacle on the Gulf Coast . . . what I have said, is Governor , Mayor , (with a few short jabs at Senator ) need to go . . .
That said, since the people in New Orleans and Baton Rouge that are sitting in seats of "power" are in fact Democrats, it's rather by default they bear the brunt of my criticism.
Quoting Dan-Air (Reply 22): Where's your criticism for David Vitter - you know, the otehr senator from Louisiana, that has been conspicious by his absence from the relief effort.
I didn't hear Vitter crawling all over the airwaves blaming every gawddamn body on the planet except the parties responsible - and in fact, he said he should shoulder some of the blame as well . . . all I've seen , and do are point their fingers at DC - specifically PotUS - rather than the real issue - which was, and remains, a very shoddy plan, from the top (FEMA) down that wasn't exercised sufficiently enough to ensure it would function.
Quoting Dan-Air (Reply 22): I read today that WH staff were drawing straws for who would have to give Bush the bad news about the situation in New Orleans, not because they were afraid of the his reaction to the catastrophe, but him facing the prospect of having to cut short his vacation. Some sense of priority huh?
As for Halliburton or Bechtel and the like, show me someone with the ability to jump right in an begin to maneuver on target ASAP and I'll be interested . . . if you've not solution other than bitching, perhaps you should change your tack.
I've been facing facts all week . . . . I took the time to read the entire Louisiana Emergency Operations Plan, and can see just what a clusterfuck it is . . . might as well use it as toilet paper or split it into four parts to elevate a desk . . . it's not worth the paper it's written on unless it's used, exercised, reviewed, and comes complete . . . currently no log package, no commo package.
Now, I've witnessed Conservatives and Liberals, Democrats and Republicans alike spew forth all sorts of finger pointing this past week - myself included of course - and I've found VERY few democrats or liberals here that will even remotely consider that the local and state governments screwed the pooch from Zero Hour on this thing and would rather continue to harp on how screwed up FEMA and PotUS are in this instance. Those people need to take a long gawddamn look in the mirror before tossing stones . . . I suppose I could name names, but it wouldn't matter . . . the fellow A-Netters to whom I refer know who they are . . .
The vitriolic blaming of PotUS with the complete blindness to anything that occured within the state and local governments there is simply assinine.