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Peugeot 1007 Anyone?  
User currently offlineAlessandro From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (9 years 1 week 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 2147 times:

Am I the only one that thinks the Peugeot 1007 is a cool car?
For more see
http://www.peugeot.co.uk/ppp/cgi-bin...Page=ppplpindex.jsp&_strModeHTML=1

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User currently offlineDoona From Sweden, joined Feb 2005, 3771 posts, RR: 13
Reply 1, posted (9 years 1 week 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 2139 times:

Is it a smart car? Is it a minivan? No one can tell!

Cheers
Mats



Sure, we're concerned for our lives. Just not as concerned as saving 9 bucks on a roundtrip to Ft. Myers.
User currently offlineAlessandro From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (9 years 1 week 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 2131 times:

Time will tell, but surely something you wish for sometimes when you ride a lot on ferries....

User currently offlineMNeo From Bulgaria, joined Mar 2004, 776 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (9 years 1 week 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 2131 times:

I really dont want to know what happens when this thing gets hit by an SUV...


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User currently offlineAlessandro From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (9 years 1 week 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 2116 times:

MNeo, the crash-test can be found here, http://www.euroncap.com/content/safe..._ratings/details.php?id1=1&id2=214

User currently offlineAirdolomiti From Germany, joined May 2003, 690 posts, RR: 9
Reply 5, posted (9 years 1 week 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 2112 times:

I think it's a really cool little car, those sliding doors are ideal in cities where parking spaces are limited...plus it has received a 5-star rating in the Euro NCAP crash test - apparently it is the highest scoring car ever in all classes for adult occupant protection.

User currently offlineL410Turbolet From Czech Republic, joined May 2004, 5712 posts, RR: 18
Reply 6, posted (9 years 1 week 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 2104 times:

I think the question is: Do you really want that funky sliding electric door (prone to defects) THAT BAD???
I definitely see the 3dr./5dr. 307 as a better value for the same money or perhaps the 107 as basically the same car for much less money.
I predict it to be another Avantime I'm afraid.


User currently offlineDfwRevolution From United States of America, joined Jan 2010, 977 posts, RR: 51
Reply 7, posted (9 years 1 week 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 2094 times:

Horrible color of gold or orange or whatever in that flash movie. Yikes !  Sad

User currently offlineWhiteHatter From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (9 years 1 week 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 2091 times:

Quoting MNeo (Reply 3):
I really dont want to know what happens when this thing gets hit by an SUV...

The SUV would not be as safe a place to be riding in. Most of them are poor performers, the 1007 gets five stars in EuroNCAP.

Many SUVs only get two stars.


User currently offlineRedDragon From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2004, 1135 posts, RR: 6
Reply 9, posted (9 years 1 week 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 2081 times:

Quoting Airdolomiti (Reply 5):
apparently it is the highest scoring car ever in all classes for adult occupant protection.

In all classes, or just its own? (A five-star supermini is not necessarily as safe as a five-star limousine.)

I had a bit of a sit-in-and-prod with a 1007 at the Pembrokeshire County Show last month (yes, the glamour! The luxury!). It seems a pretty funky little device to my eyes as I'd expected, but also worryingly compromised. There was minimal rear legroom and a pathetic boot for a car that long (yes, I know the rear seats do tricks, but there's not fundamentally a great deal of room for them to do tricks in). The sliding doors, while not as slow as I'd been led to expect, would nevertheless be much more user-friendly in certain situations if they were manual - although I accept the Advantages Of The Button when you're laden with children, shopping and assorted other trinkets. (Although not too many, as you'd struggle to fit them in the car.) I was also struck at how far the upper rail for each door intruded into my peripheral vision at the top outer corner of the windscreen.

Ultimately, I think the 1007 really, really needs to tap into the kind of "premium trinket" market so successfully employed by BMW with the Maxi Mini MINI. If Peugeot gets the marketing, pricing and image right, it'll sell lots of 1007s to people who just like the car, and can put up with poor packaging and, oh yes, that reportedly abysmally slow 1.4 petrol. (Or is the 1.4HDi? Or both? I can't remember offhand.)

I really hope it succeeds - I love the car! Flawed but so individual  Smile

Rich


User currently offlineAlessandro From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (9 years 1 week 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 2045 times:

The important thing is to iron out all the early bugs as soon as possible, since
I think it can appeal to many people in urban areas like the Smart microcar did, with one or two persons in the household.
Inital complaints by test-drivers has been the difficulty to access the rear
seat...


User currently offlineAMSGOT From Sweden, joined Jun 2005, 337 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (9 years 1 week 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 2040 times:

I drove the car... It's fun to drive! But I'd rather have another car, I think.

By the way, will this car be for sale in your home country, Allessandro? The smallest cars of some brands were not sold in Sweden, I think. (Peugeot 106, any Lancia, Volkswagen Lupo, those kind of cars...)



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User currently offlineAtco2b From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2005, 1114 posts, RR: 7
Reply 12, posted (9 years 1 week 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 2040 times:

Quoting Airdolomiti (Reply 5):
those sliding doors are ideal in cities

Agreed, another thing to break  Sad

Quoting WhiteHatter (Reply 8):
gets five stars in EuroNCAP.

Safety first, should be good...



Hey, you want to go out for pizza and some sex? What, you don't like pizza?
User currently offlineKay From France, joined Mar 2002, 1884 posts, RR: 3
Reply 13, posted (9 years 1 week 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 2035 times:




yes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


User currently offlineCornish From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2005, 8187 posts, RR: 54
Reply 14, posted (9 years 1 week 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 2029 times:

Is it only me who thinks it resembles an invalid car?  Wink

But I admire them for doing something different..

Quoting RedDragon (Reply 9):
oh yes, that reportedly abysmally slow 1.4 petrol. (Or is the 1.4HDi? Or both? I can't remember offhand.)

The problem being that those elctric doors, while very cool are also extremely heavy, so weighing down what would be an otherwise light car - meaning the enignes struggle a bit.

Quoting RedDragon (Reply 9):
Ultimately, I think the 1007 really, really needs to tap into the kind of "premium trinket" market so successfully employed by BMW with the Maxi Mini MINI. If Peugeot gets the marketing, pricing and image right, it'll sell lots of 1007s to people who just like the car, and can put up with poor packaging

Well apparently it is going to be priced on the high side, so it will have to appeal to the premium trinket market - i heard prices would be similar to low end Focuses, Astras and Golfs - if true thats risky for a car that doesn't have a premium badge.

Also the Mini is incredibly successful thanks to dynamic looks and driving experience (the Cooper is a GREAT car to drive). I understand from a couple of min owning friends that the dealer service is first class too - something,at least in the UK, Peugeot does not have a good reputation for.

But I'm not sure it has the looks to appeal to the young professional market that the Mini has captured so well. I considered a Mini before I fell in love with the A3, but somehow I couldn't see myself driving the 1007.

Unless Peugeot can court the Pink Pound and take over from the Smart as the gay city car of choice  Wink



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User currently offlineAlessandro From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (9 years 1 week 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 2017 times:

Lupo, Smart and 1007 are sold in Sweden. Some smaller cars never make it here, like the Citroën Saxo.
Cornish, there´s two engine options, 1,4 or 1,6 liter, perhaps the 1,4 is a bit
on the weak side. You can drive with the doors open but the problem with
that is that the rear indicators become hard to see.


User currently offlineCornish From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2005, 8187 posts, RR: 54
Reply 16, posted (9 years 1 week 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 2013 times:

Quoting Alessandro (Reply 15):
Cornish, there´s two engine options, 1,4 or 1,6 liter, perhaps the 1,4 is a bit
on the weak side.

Ah that'd be right - go for the 1.6 then or it might have trouble getting up hills !



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User currently offlineRedDragon From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2004, 1135 posts, RR: 6
Reply 17, posted (9 years 1 week 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 1971 times:

Quoting Cornish (Reply 14):
Is it only me who thinks it resembles an invalid car?  Wink

Harsh...  Smile

Quoting Cornish (Reply 14):
The problem being that those elctric doors, while very cool are also extremely heavy, so weighing down what would be an otherwise light car - meaning the enignes struggle a bit.

The electric doors, plus the large glass area (especially the windscreen) and general overbodied design.

Prices are £10,850-£12,600 - not cheap for a supermini, although they probably can't do it for much less given the level of safety and engineering involved.

Quoting Cornish (Reply 14):
But I'm not sure it has the looks to appeal to the young professional market that the Mini has captured so well. I considered a Mini before I fell in love with the A3, but somehow I couldn't see myself driving the 1007. Unless Peugeot can court the Pink Pound and take over from the Smart as the gay city car of choice

What - then you'd consider it? :P From the print advertising they've used so far, they're aiming at the Girlie Market - I'm not sure they do the car in pink. Fortunately.


User currently offlineAer Lingus From Ireland, joined Mar 2001, 529 posts, RR: 4
Reply 18, posted (9 years 1 week 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 1963 times:

I quite like the 1007 especially with the 1.4 HDi engine. But the problem is that the car is a bit too small for me. Maybe I could trade-in my 307sw for 2 1007's. Might be a very good idea to get 2 cars.  cool 


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User currently offlineMD11junkie From Argentina, joined May 2005, 3148 posts, RR: 57
Reply 19, posted (9 years 1 week 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 1952 times:

I've always praised Peugeot for their good looking cars and designs, but this is just fuc**ng ugly.

Cheers! wave 
Gastón - The MD-11 Junkie



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User currently offlineRedDragon From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2004, 1135 posts, RR: 6
Reply 20, posted (9 years 1 week 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 1947 times:

Quoting Aer Lingus (Reply 18):
Maybe I could trade-in my 307sw for 2 1007's. Might be a very good idea to get 2 cars.  cool 

Unless you've got more moola, or an SW that's appreciated in value, I don't think that's gonna happen  Wink

On a random, semi-related note: why does PSA (and Ford, for that matter) seem so reluctant to fit/offer the higher-power 1.4HDi? It's available in the C3 (a very entertaining combination), but not much else. Surely only offering the lower-power version with, what, just about 70bhp in a car as big, bluff and heavy as the 1007 - or Fusion, or Pluriel, or 206CC - is asking for trouble? I wouldn't have thought there were any significant packaging problems with the 92bhp version, as, as far as I was aware, the differences amount to 8v vs 16v. Am I barking up the wrong automotive tree entirely?

Rich


User currently offlineRobertNL070 From Netherlands, joined exactly 11 years ago today! , 4532 posts, RR: 9
Reply 21, posted (9 years 1 week 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 1941 times:

Quoting MD11junkie (Reply 19):
I've always praised Peugeot for their good looking cars and designs, but this is just fuc**ng ugly.

Couldn't agree more. I'll stick to my 2004 Peugeot 206 for now, while I save up for my new Peugeot 307 2.0-16v XSi  yummy 

Regards, Robert



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User currently offlineWhiteHatter From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (9 years 1 week 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 1912 times:

Funny that Pug have two cars out in roughly the same class. The new 207 looks nice though.

Peugeot and Renault have always been uncommonly good at the engineering side. Their engines run forever (Pug did have a spate of very dodgy gearboxes a few years back) and are lovely drivers. A 1.2 Clio I drove a few years back had a surprising amount of power for its size.

Peugeot diesels are legendary. Ford used to licence them for the Sierra.


User currently offlineKay From France, joined Mar 2002, 1884 posts, RR: 3
Reply 23, posted (9 years 1 week 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 1906 times:

Quoting WhiteHatter (Reply 22):
Peugeot and Renault have always been uncommonly good at the engineering side.

There may be a rugged engine or two made by these manufacturers that turned out cheap to operate, or practical. However, let there be no confusion. The biggest improvement from Renault is its marketing ideas in discovering new markets, and from Peugeot.. well their handling, and the fact that Pinifarina designs most of its cars. But engineering wise... Renault is getting its engines from Nissan and Peugeot was from Volvo.
Engine, gearbox, and other mechanical items are and will always be very rugged and unpleasant to use on these cars for anyone with an engineering sense like me, except for the roadhandling of Peugeot's that is always nailed correctly.

The last time Renault was champion in F1, we always heard that "the best engine manufacturer in races is the worst on the road". This almost hasn't changed today..

I almost died in a Renault Scenic on a German highway once. The car wobbles around like a ship. Also, the gearbox was like a huge piece of caoutchouc..

Kay


User currently offlineCornish From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2005, 8187 posts, RR: 54
Reply 24, posted (9 years 1 week 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 1898 times:

Quoting Kay (Reply 23):
and from Peugeot.. well their handling, and the fact that Pinifarina designs most of its cars.

Er not any more - the 306/406 era were Pininfarina designs, but the 206 onwards including the 307, 407, etc are all in-house Peugeot designs.

Quoting Kay (Reply 23):
Renault is getting its engines from Nissan and Peugeot was from Volvo.

Not the diesels which are the French brands main strength. As for the higher end engines, the V6s and the like were Renault, Peugeot, Volvo co-designed and produced engines.

Quoting RedDragon (Reply 17):
Quoting Cornish (Reply 14):
But I'm not sure it has the looks to appeal to the young professional market that the Mini has captured so well. I considered a Mini before I fell in love with the A3, but somehow I couldn't see myself driving the 1007. Unless Peugeot can court the Pink Pound and take over from the Smart as the gay city car of choice

What - then you'd consider it? :P From the print advertising they've used so far, they're aiming at the Girlie Market - I'm not sure they do the car in pink. Fortunately.

good god no. I'm far too butch to drive a Smart or 1007  Wink My point being that if they want to find a niche market with money to buy it then perhaps the pink pound is the way to go, for the more camp of our countrymen, a la Smart  Wink remeber gay people can make siomething extremely fashionable.

Besides do you really think I'm going to trade the Audi in for a 1007??  Wink

Actually talkin gof Audi brings me on to the A2 - there was a car that in theory should have been a hit. Small, light and with a premium badge. It sohlu dhave been able to sel even at its expensive price for what it was - but it didn't and thats my point about the 1007 against the Mini - its got to be spot on for the market that's prepared to pay extra - young professionals with no kids- or its going to be a sales flop.

I actually had an audi A2 for a day while my A3 was getting serviced earlier in the year. Much as i was prepared to hate it, with the 1.4 Tdi it was actually tremendous fun to drive, very agile and had stacks of space.



Just when I thought I could see light at the end of the tunnel, it was some B*****d with a torch bringing me more work
25 AOMlover : I believe Pininfarina didn't design the whole 406 family, only the 406 coup�.
26 Post contains images WhiteHatter : What a load. Not even close. The old Volvo chestnut is exactly that. A chestnut and not even remotely near the facts. Unfortunately my experience of
27 Kay : Thanks for the arrogant answer. Please allow me to retort. Renault are sucking the Nissan engines, that is the sweetest part of their deal with Nissan
28 Cornish : To add to Whitehatter's post, not only is the technology transfer over to nissan, but many other manufacturers are using Renault and Peugeot diesel te
29 Kay : Cornish, i am writing now from my pda... i am not talking about diesel engines (u must mean low-end diesel engines too, because >=6 cylinders is merc-
30 Post contains images Cornish : Ah so that half-baked cynical hairdressers roadster from BMW that has the chassis of the VERY old 3-series What was that about agricultural ?
31 Post contains images Kay : Cornish, the VERY old 3-series chassis, you mean the BEST part about my car? gimme a 1989 325i anyday.. Kay
32 Post contains images Cornish : Actually they were pretty special cars
33 Kay : "Actually they were pretty special cars" Yup
34 Post contains images Cornish : The Old 3 I mean - not the Z3
35 Kay : yes, exactly, the Z3.
36 Post contains images RayChuang : Interesting concept, but British automotive magazines disliked the car for its poor handling. For that type of money in the UK I'd rather get the Opel
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