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New Orleans Mayor Nagin Moves To Dallas  
User currently offlineDL021 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 11447 posts, RR: 75
Posted (9 years 1 month 1 week 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 3116 times:

Mayor Nagin has bought a house in Dallas. Not moved into a hotel, or put his family in a temporary apartment....he's bought a house and enrolled his kids in school there.

Does that sound like the act of a man who is staying with his city? Is he running out on them? I could see sending his wife and kids there, but he evidently has been there (other than the trip down to meet the President in NO) for several days. Does he plan on abandoning New Orleans, or simply resigning from the job?

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,169194,00.html

[Edited 2005-09-13 07:49:29]


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User currently offlineClickhappy From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 9644 posts, RR: 68
Reply 1, posted (9 years 1 month 1 week 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 3102 times:
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I doubt his chances at reelection are very good, maybe he is cutting his losses.

User currently offlineWe're Nuts From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 5722 posts, RR: 19
Reply 2, posted (9 years 1 month 1 week 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 3101 times:

Looks pretty bad. I'm sure he's planning on resigning over this. If not, he should be.

And for God's sake, don't link to Faux News! Big grin



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User currently offlineLTBEWR From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 13138 posts, RR: 15
Reply 3, posted (9 years 1 month 1 week 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 3085 times:

After what Mayor Nagin has been through in the last weeks, I wouldn't plan on running for re-election either and instead plan for a new job, in a new city. In the meantime, this looks bad, like he has abandoned the city too and they still need a full-time mayor.

User currently offlineGarnetpalmetto From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 5404 posts, RR: 53
Reply 4, posted (9 years 1 month 1 week 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 3073 times:

Not to steal ANC's invention, but maybe Mayor  hissyfit  plans on running for mayor of Dallas? Then he can throw a  hissyfit  over the Wright Amendment?


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User currently offlineAirWillie6475 From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 2448 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (9 years 1 month 1 week 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 3069 times:

His interview over the weekend was pathetic, it didn't take a genious to know when he was giving BS answers.

User currently offlineSTLGph From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 9410 posts, RR: 26
Reply 6, posted (9 years 1 month 1 week 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 3054 times:

What do you expect him to do?

Right now, the -only- authority there lies with the General in command of the deployed armed forces. There is not a city jurisdiction. There is not a municipality. There is no city council. There's no voting for motions. There's no ordinances to be passed.

So, if he wants to take some time and get his family into other quarters, then so be it. There's nothing more he can do until the authority is turned back over to the city council of the city. Until then, he's still "the mayor" until the council votes otherwise.



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User currently offlineME AVN FAN From Switzerland, joined May 2002, 13920 posts, RR: 25
Reply 7, posted (9 years 1 month 1 week 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 3032 times:

Quoting Garnetpalmetto (Reply 4):
Mayor

well, his name should rather be Ragin than Nagin --- but he anyway has become fully white-haired and almost "elderly"-looking, like a kind of black Jimmy Carter.


User currently offlineKROC From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (9 years 1 month 1 week 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 3024 times:

Quoting STLGph (Reply 6):
What do you expect him to do?

Perhaps stay in New Orleans? Most around here catch wood over dumping on Bush for NOT being in New Orleans and such and here we have the Mayor moving out. Perfect. Maybe he doesn't want to deal with the repair bill for the 200 water logged school buses.


User currently offlineCfalk From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (9 years 1 month 1 week 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 3015 times:

Quoting STLGph (Reply 6):
Right now, the -only- authority there lies with the General in command of the deployed armed forces. There is not a city jurisdiction. There is not a municipality. There is no city council. There's no voting for motions. There's no ordinances to be passed.

But he could provide LEADERSHIP. You know, the kind of thing that Mayor Guliani oozed from every pore in New York after 9/11. He could turn the disaster into an opportunity to ensure that while rebuilding, and with a whole ton of funds available, that certain structural problems with the city are adressed, such as zoning, drainage, law enforcement reform, etc. etc.. There are tons of things that he can do. Without a mayor, will it be up to the feds to rebuild New Orleans? They don't know the city, nor its problems, and would miss opportunities while probably creating new ones.

Nagin should stay in New Orleans until elections put him out. Walking away now is no different from a soldier deserting during a fight. Coward!

Quoting KROC (Reply 8):
Maybe he doesn't want to deal with the repair bill for the 200 water logged school buses.

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User currently offlineRsmith6621a From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 194 posts, RR: 2
Reply 10, posted (9 years 1 month 1 week 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 2972 times:

Quoting LTBEWR (Reply 3):
After what Mayor Nagin has been through in the last weeks, I wouldn't plan on running for re-election either and instead plan for a new job, in a new city. In the meantime, this looks bad, like he has abandoned the city too and they still need a full-time mayor.

Nagin is an Ex-Republican anyhow. Chance are that mr bush made him an offer he couldn't refuse while he showered onboard AF1(bush probably told him the work to rebuild is going to be HARD...real...HARD)....it called a payoff for SILENCE and no further critsiscm of the administration.

Loyalty in bushes administration goes along ways but speak out and they just love to air the dirty laundry......remember Joe Wilson and his wife Ms Plame???

Yes if he resigns then he isnt worth his weight in gold democrat or republican.



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User currently offlinePROSA From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 5644 posts, RR: 4
Reply 11, posted (9 years 1 month 1 week 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 2968 times:

Quoting ME AVN FAN (Reply 7):
well, his name should rather be Ragin than Nagin --- but he anyway has become fully white-haired and almost "elderly"-looking, like a kind of black Jimmy Carter.

White haired? Nagin doesn't have any hair!



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User currently offlineANCFlyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (9 years 1 month 1 week 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 2963 times:

I am flabbergasted! I guess I shouldn't be but I rather am . . .

Bought a house, not rented something so his kids could have someplace to live while attending school . . . or a place to let his wife call home . . . while  hissyfit  stayed in his city and watched it being rebuilt!

One can only hope he resigns. Failing that, the people of New Orleans see him for the worthless Mayor he is and force him out . . .

Quoting AirWillie6475 (Reply 5):
His interview over the weekend was pathetic, it didn't take a genious to know when he was giving BS answers.

He's been bullshitting the great City of New Orleans since the days before Katrina struck.

Quoting STLGph (Reply 6):
What do you expect him to do

Stay in his gawddamn city that's what! He is the Mayor - duly elected - although he's been rightfully usurped by an outstanding General Officer that could run circles around him (and that crybaby Governor) with his eyes closed. Fact remains - he IS the Mayor and now he's bailing out.

Quoting STLGph (Reply 6):
There's nothing more he can do until the authority is turned back over to the city council of the city

Bull STL, he could be of more value to LTG Honore as an aide, follow along one step behind and to the left in typical military fashion, until the General has a question. And be there in his city fighting the fight along side his constituents.

Speaking of City Council, wonder where they hightailed it to???

Quoting Cfalk (Reply 9):
Walking away now is no different from a soldier deserting during a fight. Coward!

 checkmark  Exactly.

Quoting Rsmith6621a (Reply 10):
Yes if he resigns then he isnt worth his weight in gold democrat or republican.

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User currently offlineTPASXM787 From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 1730 posts, RR: 19
Reply 13, posted (9 years 1 month 1 week 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 2951 times:

Wow.

First he had no plan, now he is running away. He is still the mayor, there is something he could do...called being a leader, not just throwing a shit-fit every time he gets on TV. Apparently, he still has no plan.



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User currently offlineN1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 26601 posts, RR: 75
Reply 14, posted (9 years 1 month 1 week 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 2949 times:

Quoting Cfalk (Reply 9):
You know, the kind of thing that Mayor Guliani oozed from every pore in New York after 9/11.

Not to detract from the horrors of 9/11 in any way, but Rudi Guilani didn't go through a shread of what Ray Nagin has gone through. New York had the full weight of the federal government that day, not 4 days later. Also, Rudi had a place to go home at night, while Nagin was stuck in the middle of a city filling with flood water. Sure, it was easy for Rudi to go on TV and smile for the camera, as the 9/11 incident in New York was isolated to a small area of the city and was able to be contained easily. Katrina's impact was like that of airplanes hitting every part of the city, from every angle, for 3 days straight. No sleep, no electricity, nothing but a call he was able to make to a TV station and get out the word that New Orleans needed help, yet was left to rot by the dispicable idiots at 1600 Pennsylvania Ave. If Guilani had to deal with 1/10th of what happened in New Orleans, and the lack of response was what it was in Nagin's situation, 8 million New Yorkers would have gone and found George Bush sitting in that classroom and impaled him on the torch of the Statue of Liberty

Quoting Rsmith6621a (Reply 10):
Nagin is an Ex-Republican anyhow.

Who said ex?



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User currently offlineCornish From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2005, 8187 posts, RR: 54
Reply 15, posted (9 years 1 month 1 week 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 2948 times:

Just shows that his only interest in New Orleans and its people was a cushy mayor's job and all that came with it.

Even if he stepped down, he should be right there helping where he can, providing a public voice of support to the people of NO

Quoting Cfalk (Reply 9):
But he could provide LEADERSHIP. You know, the kind of thing that Mayor Guliani oozed from every pore in New York after 9/11. He could turn the disaster into an opportunity to ensure that while rebuilding, and with a whole ton of funds available, that certain structural problems with the city are adressed, such as zoning, drainage, law enforcement reform, etc. etc.. There are tons of things that he can do. Without a mayor, will it be up to the feds to rebuild New Orleans? They don't know the city, nor its problems, and would miss opportunities while probably creating new ones.

 checkmark  Exactly. Just the sort of thing a mayor's office is there to do in such an event.



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User currently offlineDL021 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 11447 posts, RR: 75
Reply 16, posted (9 years 1 month 1 week 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 2945 times:

Quoting STLGph (Reply 6):
What do you expect him to do?

Stay and lead. Rebuild the city that somebody elected him to care for. Lead the efforts at recovery and rebuilding that are going to be the work demanded by the citizens for the man who swore an oath to serve.



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User currently offlineFlyingTexan From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (9 years 1 month 1 week 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 2931 times:

General Honore scared the shit ouuta him. So he left to Dallas. Can Nagin legally be mayor of NOLA now that he is a Texas resident? Or is his primary residence still in NOLA?

Quoting Garnetpalmetto (Reply 4):
Then he can throw a    over the Wright Amendment?

    

Current Dallas Mayor Laura Miller is better. By a hair.



[Edited 2005-09-13 16:56:00]

User currently offlineANCFlyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (9 years 1 month 1 week 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 2925 times:

Quoting FlyingTexan (Reply 17):
Or is his primary residence still in NOLA?

Being fair and honest, I'd say that anyone that has left the devastation in New Orleans because of the flood and Katrina will be considered displaced citizens of New Orleans in the eyes of the law.

It would be that way in Alaska - if Anchorage was pounded by another quake like 1964 - and I was forced to abandon Anchorage for a time, I'd still be legally a resident of Anchorage. There are limits on that however . . .


User currently offlineDL021 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 11447 posts, RR: 75
Reply 19, posted (9 years 1 month 1 week 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 2917 times:

Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 18):
It would be that way in Alaska - if Anchorage was pounded by another quake like 1964 - and I was forced to abandon Anchorage for a time, I'd still be legally a resident of Anchorage. There are limits on that however . . .

I'll bet you have a week or so's food and water plus the ability to take care of yourself if the quake came and left you without power or the house even.

I'll also lay odds you wouldn't abandon your post, nor would you leave innocents to their fate. That seems to have been the case in NOLA in many instances.



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User currently offlineFlyingTexan From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (9 years 1 month 1 week 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 2915 times:

Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 18):
devastation in New Orleans

Understood. Extenuating circumstances. He should stay in NOLA at the Hyatt where he and staff were staying (looting the local Office Depot).


User currently offlineME AVN FAN From Switzerland, joined May 2002, 13920 posts, RR: 25
Reply 21, posted (9 years 1 month 1 week 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 2904 times:

Quoting PROSA (Reply 11):
Nagin doesn't have any hair!

Ï mean that "outer hair-belt" which is still in evidence


User currently offlineRoger136913 From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 473 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (9 years 1 month 1 week 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 2897 times:

Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 12):
Bought a house, not rented something so his kids could have someplace to live while attending school . . . or a place to let his wife call home . . . while stayed in his city and watched it being rebuilt!

I think he could have done the same if he bought a house in Northern LA. I hope the people of NO see the slap in the face they just got. He failed to carry out the city emergency plan, now he is running again.

Maybe he bought a 2 family and Blanco can move there also?


User currently offlineANCFlyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 23, posted (9 years 1 month 1 week 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 2887 times:

Quoting DL021 (Reply 19):
I'll bet you have a week or so's food and water plus the ability to take care of yourself if the quake came and left you without power or the house even.

Better believe it, I can recall mmoents of the 1964 quake - although I was but 5 - some things will stick in your mind and never leave. And I'm no fool. I may be crazy, but I'm not stupid. . . . if I can get to my camper, all the better, if not I'm prepared the E&E as necessary  biggrin .

Quoting DL021 (Reply 19):
I'll also lay odds you wouldn't abandon your post, nor would you leave innocents to their fate.

My oath means more to me than some people's I guess.

Quoting Roger136913 (Reply 22):
I hope the people of NO see the slap in the face they just got.

No fuckin' chance. They haven't seen it yet . . . . watch the news, read the papers, it's all about how the federal government let them down. Perhaps, when it's all said and done, and the citizens of New Orleans actually weigh the facts, they'll see it - I won't bet a weeks pay on it - but it's possible.

And it's more like a kick in the balls rather than a slap in the face.


User currently offlineME AVN FAN From Switzerland, joined May 2002, 13920 posts, RR: 25
Reply 24, posted (9 years 1 month 1 week 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 2883 times:

Quoting Cfalk (Reply 9):
he could provide LEADERSHIP

he at the beginning looked as IF providing leadership but then gradually lost nerves ---- very bad, but understandable

Quoting Cfalk (Reply 9):
that certain structural problems with the city are adressed, such as zoning, drainage, law enforcement reform, etc. etc.. There are tons of things that he can do.

true, but the question is whether he is up to that challenge

Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 12):
the people of New Orleans see him for the worthless Mayor he is and force him out . . .

THIs remark leads to the question how Major Ragin has been in NORMAL times. WAS he "worthless" or did he simply get confronted with too much ?

Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 12):
lthough he's been rightfully usurped by an outstanding General Officer that could run circles around him (and that crybaby Governor) with his eyes closed. Fact remains - he IS the Mayor and now he's bailing out.

he of course should leave the actual command to General Honoré, and assist --- but might feel like bowing out . And the tearful Lady-Governor should go back to her office

Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 12):
he could be of more value to LTG Honore as an aide, follow along one step behind and to the left in typical military fashion


true, but NOT enjoyable

Quoting FlyingTexan (Reply 17):
Current Dallas Mayor Laura Miller is better

well, did this lady ever meet a challenge of such a magnitude as the present one in New Orleans / Biloxi / Mobile ?


25 TedTAce : Have I missed somethng here? Other then commiting his wife and kids to this house, has he done the sme for himself or IS he staying in NO? I mean heve
26 Post contains images ANCFlyer : I've said that, and it lead me to wonder why one would BUY (that's the key word here TedT) a house rather than rent a place for 6 months/1 year until
27 ME AVN FAN : when looking through THIS discussion, the obvious conclusion is that the only thing for Mayor ...agin is to get away as far as possible, and that HIS
28 Roger136913 : I have a thought and I hope no one jumps all over on me for this.... Could it be were race is in reverse? The Black people see him as someone who is
29 AeroWesty : So you're in tune with the mayor's finances now? You know the rental market in Dallas? You know how long it will take for New Orleans to stabilize en
30 TedTAce : It's called equity.... In this market it's foolish to throw away money on rent, when you can MAKE youerself a few/several grand on a house you only o
31 PROSA : Nagin's purchase of a house in Dallas may be nothing more than a wise investment decision, rather than a sign that he's abandoning New Orleans. Keep
32 Post contains images ANCFlyer : As much as I'd like to agree with you fine gents, I find it hard to do so . . . If this is the case, I"ll be the first to apologize and say I called
33 DL021 : He should have simply adopted the General as his primary "advisor" and simply coordinated all activities with him. Had he done this he could have ack
34 AeroWesty : You are aware that Karl Rove (oooh, anyone remember him?) still maintains Texas residency through two unoccupied "vacation homes". Residency all has
35 MidnightMike : You can not compare 9/11 & the Katrina Hurricane, each incident was unique in their own special way, but just a couple of points for what Mayor Giuli
36 N1120A : Not at all. Mayor Nagin did the best he could with nothing, Rudi had the complete resources of the federal government at his disposal within hours or
37 ANCFlyer : Yes Westy, and I know PotUS has a place in Maine and Texas. And I know about "residency", I had an Alaska Driver's License and a PO Box when I left f
38 Post contains images AeroWesty : My point is supported by facts. Isn't that what you keep asking everyone for? [Edited 2005-09-13 18:27:04]
39 TedTAce : pot-kettle-black. You are presuming the worst of a guy who's already had his a$$ handed to him a few times over and deservedly so. I'm not saying he'
40 Post contains images ANCFlyer : Westy your point, although factual - yes Rove owns those houses - is not to point out that Rove owns those houses.    Your point is to pre-package
41 AeroWesty : Let's not twist words. I asked you straight out if you knew the Dallas rental market, the exact length of time it would take to move his family back
42 Post contains images FlyingTexan : Karl Rove’s voting address is his Texas Hill Country 800 square foot cottage, even though he never lived there. He sold his long time house in Aust
43 AeroWesty : Yup, that's true. I was giving Rove a little bit of leeway (shocking as it may seem), since Bush 41 was able to maintain Texas residency via the rent
44 Post contains images ANCFlyer : My Bad, failed to answer the question . . . I took as a rhetorical summation, rather than a direct question. In that case then: NO, I've no idea abou
45 FlyingTexan : Yea, The Houstonian – nice Place. It’s about a mile from me (I’m told I lower the property value). He used to be at the Four Seasons, also no H
46 Post contains images AeroWesty : Woo, maybe I should go into politics! Anyone know a good mayorship I could run for? In all seriousness, the package I outlined were questions that ca
47 MidnightMike : There was no reason for the Federal Government to be in New Orleans, the State National Guard did not arrive on the scene until Thursday, follow the
48 Post contains images Redngold : Ummm... Even as it stands now, DAL-MSY is within the bounds of the Wright Amendment...
49 DL021 : To be fair he was from Wyoming and had been their Representative to Congress (Wyoming only has one congressman).
50 Pope : The liberal double standard once again. W took 8 hours to get back to DC on 9/11 at the recommendation of his secret service detail and the national m
51 AeroWesty : Show me the photos of Nagin playing guitar while New Orleans flooded, or his staff pulling straws to see who would be the one to break bad news to hi
52 Post contains images ANCFlyer : They vary state to state I'm sure. I'm fairly versed in Alaska's laws, obviously, but don't know about others - really no need for it. I've been an A
53 N1120A : Actually, according to the supremecy clause, it is the opposite If you don't have a home to go to, or one without power, air conditioning, clean drin
54 MidnightMike : I can find the photos for you if you want, this was a local problem, so what President Bush did or does not matter. City/State are the first responde
55 AeroWesty : You're on! I'd love to see the photos of Nagin playing guitar while New Orleans flooded.
56 Post contains images FlyingTexan : Detroit. Current Detroit Mayor Kwame Kilpatrick’s 21-man security detail and his wife’s city leased Lincoln Navigator helped Time Magazine name h
57 AeroWesty : Woo! I shall run on a platform of "disco cures all", and be secured one vote, if that danged STLGph will change his residency from MO to MI.
58 STLGph : Obviously none of you have experience in politics, do you? With the military in command, he has no authority in the matter. Yes, except New York City
59 Cfalk : I have never heard of the civilian government being disbanded like that. Do you have a source saying that the city government has been disbanded?
60 STLGph : The declaration of Martial Law.
61 ANCFlyer : Irrelevent, Irrelevent, Irrelevent - it's still his city, period . . . . See my previous comment.
62 Post contains links STLGph : Incorrect. Here's a good guide to how city governments work. http://www.guidetogov.org/ca/state/overview/municipal.html From Dictionary.Com 3 entries
63 ANCFlyer : Thanks for the unnecessary civics lesson . . . I say again:
64 Cfalk : Martial Law is when the military is put in charge of the civilian authorities. I have never heard of the civilian authorities being disbanded. Please
65 STLGph : well, you seem to want to jump all over the Mayor's back but you forget about due process. and go back and read the section on the county government.
66 ANCFlyer : In case your unfamiliar with geography . . . Orleans Parish IS the City of New Orleans . . . And for your reference, said Emergency Operations Plan i
67 Cfalk : That reply does not say that civilian authorities are eliminated. Even in WWII civilians always were in charge of the cities, even if military office
68 Post contains links 11Bravo : http://www.nola.com/newslogs/breakin...-Picayune/archives/2005_09_10.html As usual Fox is playing fast and loose with the truth here.
69 ANCFlyer : No noe can fault the man for taking care of his family - kudos for that. If he in fact intends to remain in NOLA, after it's rebuilt, then good for hi
70 Post contains links STLGph : the Mayor signs all kinds of shit. he is nothing more than a mere ceremonial head. the Mayor has little execution of anything he signs. that is the c
71 Post contains links AeroWesty : There is no city manager. There is a parish council, mayor and parish manager. http://www.lpgov.org/directory/parish.cfm?id=36
72 ANCFlyer : Why do you insist on the civics lessons? Why do you seem to think I've no idea what Martial Law entails? Why do insist I don't get it? I get it perfec
73 STLGph : same jobs, different titles. a Parish manager would be the same as a city administrator. sorry, I'm from the north where we don't do the "Parish" thin
74 MidnightMike : In order for the US Military to take control of a City or State, I believe that the President has to call a State of Emergency & declare martial law.
75 STLGph : Why do you insist on blaming the Mayor all the time? Not right now it's not. That's what you don't get. I thought you understood Martial Law.
76 N1120A : Actually, only Congress can suspend Habeus Corpus
77 AeroWesty : I've not been able to find a definitive answer while poking around here and there, but does Orleans Parish encompass only the city of New Orleans, so
78 STLGph : it'd be the state. it's confusing down south. I'm still trying to figure out Waffle House. applying to Halliburton. along with everyone else.
79 Post contains images ANCFlyer : And the Governor, And FEMA . . .what's the matter - only read the parts of my posts that fit into your agenda??? You'll have to do better than that.
80 Post contains links STLGph : We have both discussed our feelings on the Governor and FEMA before. We both pretty much agree. Remember? Or too much drinky last night, my friend? Y
81 Post contains links Cfalk : Regulations of the Department of Defense, emphasis added. 32 CFR 501 is entitled "Employment of Troops in Aid of Civil Authorities." "When Federal Arm
82 Post contains links 11Bravo : Just to clear up a few items here. Orleans Parish and the City of New Orleans are the same thing. They operate under what is called a City-Parish Con
83 AeroWesty : " target=_blank>http://www.lpgov.org/facts.htm Aha! I somehow missed that while poking around that site. Thanks for the link. Now I wonder what the ef
84 Post contains links STLGph : http://www.wben.com/newsroom/fullstory.php?newsid=03633 What is the role of the President and Vice President? This says nothing. You apparently don't
85 Post contains images Cfalk : disbanded=removed. Nice try.
86 Post contains links 11Bravo : " target=_blank>http://www.wben.com/newsroom/fullsto...03633 That source is incorrect. You may want to reference something a bit more authoritative th
87 AeroWesty : Wrong-o, Mary Lou. Removed is permanent, temporarily disbanded is until control is returned.
88 STLGph : " target=_blank>http://gov.louisiana.gov/workonkatri...0.asp That's right. We also didn't declare war in Iraq, either.
89 MaverickM11 : You've got to be kidding. After railing against Bush for sneezing at the wrong time you don't raise the same tantrum about this?
90 Cfalk : Semantics. Where do you see ANYWHERE that they are even temporarily disbanded. Give me ONE source.
91 STLGph : Nope. I know he's limited in what he can do right now. I've been covering Public Affairs since I started off as a newspaper correspondent in 1997. I
92 DL021 : Scattered, smothered, covered, topped, diced, chunked, and well is how you order your hashbrowns. Get the waffle dark. If this is the case then fine.
93 Flyboy36y : To be honest, I think as mayor he belongs out side of NOLA. Dalas is where a large amount of is citizens are. And lots of ppl buy houses for the short
94 Post contains links AeroWesty : Is USAToday and DHS Secretary Chertoff good enough for you? It was the first link I came across in a simple Google search. http://www.usatoday.com/ne
95 11Bravo : Actually, they are talking about last Saturday (9-10) and last Wednesday (9-7). Fox didn't pick up the story until today, several days after the fact
96 Post contains images ANCFlyer : No "drinky" at all as I'm on the clock - and there is no booze allowed up here. No "drinky" for several weeks now. Dangit . . . Agreed about the law
97 STLGph : I agree with you on this. I am suddenly hungry. But I am stuck behind a computer for another hour doing this stupid economics crap. Damn you. DL, ANC
98 Post contains images ANCFlyer : What's he going to there? Or Houston? Or Portland? Or Anchorage (where there are 13 families from NOLA living now)? Nothing. He's better off in the C
99 MidnightMike : Your quotes do not give an example that the City Government disbanded
100 Tom in NO : Neither Nagin nor LA governor Kathleen Blanco could get reelected dog catcher in this town. Tom at MSY
101 AeroWesty : The question at hand was the definition of removal vs. disbanding of the government. At a critical time during the emergency, the federal government
102 Post contains images FlyingTexan : Don't forget capped (with mushrooms)
103 11Bravo : He may want to check in with Admiral Allen first cosidering he is the PFO for Katrina.
104 FDXmech : Maybe you could explain what federal assistance was or even could have been rendered to NYC when the towers were falling. During this critical period
105 ME AVN FAN : � sounds extremely generalizing. There in 1990 was a mayor of Moscow, a certain Mr Yeltzin, who after a crisis became president of Russia. There
106 STLGph : NOLA would still be under water, regardless. If you're willing to do the time and buy the right people, sure...
107 ANCFlyer : C Y A = Cover
108 DL021 : I hate schrooms so I never realized you could do that too. If you mean reach out to his people elsewhere then yes....I'd say he's responsible for goi
109 LH423 : You can't sell a house generally in under two years. If you do the government sees it as trying to make a profit and taxes you to the hilt. Not a wis
110 Jacobin777 : if true, then this guy is a modern-day benadict arnold..he should be tried for treason..and give him "the chair, the chair....heh ..heh..heh.." Beavis
111 FDXMECH : I'm not blaming Nagin for the devastation of NO, I'm blaming him for not carrying out his duties in evacuating NO and showing nil leadership to those
112 Garnetpalmetto : And the joke goes completely over somebody's head like the Space Shuttle in orbit.
113 LH423 : No one is minimizing it. But the fact is, if people want to bring 9.11 into this, then you absolutely have to consider the scale. Yes, they're differ
114 N1120A : Well, that will be interesting come winter
115 STLGph : i *DID* go to Waffle House last night because of you. now now you can' go blaming *THAT* on the Mayor. there is a certain discourse of self responsib
116 Post contains images ANCFlyer : I was thinking the same thing - now the count is up to 40 families . . . There are also some families from Biloxi . . . they'll be in the same predic
117 STLGph : shoot, after living in St. Louis for the past 5 years, I can tell a difference in a drop in temperature as soon as I get 100 miles north to Springfie
118 ME AVN FAN : or is he FLEEING in a way ? If so , he might go to French Polynesia to be sufficiently far away !
119 TedTAce : MAYBE..... He's doing a new version of a WN 'want to get away' commercial?
120 AeroWesty : Mayor Nagin will be on CNN's Larry King Live tonight at 9PM Eastern, 6PM Pacific, taking your calls! 1-800-676-2100 is the number to call to get into
121 MaverickM11 : But those buses wouldn't be...those people in the Superdome wouldn't have been in an approximation of hell...those 30+ people in the nursing home wou
122 DL021 : Most of my Cajun friends saw snow for the first time when they joined the army. Did you apply for the credit card? Hope you enjoyed it....the best mi
123 FDXMECH : I'm comparing the leadership or lack thereoff during a crisis or executing a plan to mitigate the effects if forewarned. Again, I'm not pointing fing
124 LH423 : No, not saying that. You're the one bringing politics into this, not I. LH423
125 Post contains links Tbar220 : I don't know if it's been mentioned up to now in the thread, but it should be clarified. 1. Mayor Nagin is not living in Dallas. He has moved his fami
126 ANCFlyer : Yes it has . . . early on. YET. But's it a good call on his part - get someplace else to live lined up because when this all plays out and the people
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