LGW From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Posted (8 years 2 months 4 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 841 times:
Although not 'fascinated' by politics I do take an interest in UK/US/EU politics and what with 9/11, Iraq and the current situation of New Orleans I hear many voices (especially the BBC!) in the UK and US about how unhappy many are about Bush as president (nothing new, I know).
Being a Conservative here in the UK I am interested to know from the Americans here in the forum how you all feel and what the general feeling is about Republicans and Democrats.
Are the ones who are unhappy now, unhappy at Bush or Bush and the Republican party? There is so much anti Bush I hear from the media it is hard from my POV to see if it is a general anti Republican and Bush feeling in the US or if the unhappyness is aimed mainly at Bush?
I'd rather not have the thread full of unfounded "I hate Bush" etc type posts, by all means tell me what you think but I am interested in the wider picture
Smitten From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2005, 91 posts, RR: 1 Reply 2, posted (8 years 2 months 4 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 831 times:
Being from the states, I have to admit once and for all... I voted for Bush . It was back in my more conservative days when my faith governed my life, and though my one vote probably didn't make that much of a difference it was still in a infinitesimal way, a contributing factor to his success. I have to say that my vote for Bush is one of the greatest regrets and shames of my life, I still shake my head over it to this day. But we can't change the past...
There are many things that I dislike about Bush, but to keep it short, I will select one.
He is ultraconservative (I used to be as well), which in itself is not negative thing, one is free to choose what they believe (one of the beauties of the states). However, at the same time, he attempts to change or influence laws (on abortion and same sex relationships for instance) and as a result inflict on the whole of the nation, his personal views. He is attempting to let HIS moral guidelines be those of the nation. Not a good thing in the land of the free.
And that's just one Domestic issue that really gets to me... The list goes on and on...
Jetjack74 From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 7366 posts, RR: 51 Reply 4, posted (8 years 2 months 4 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 804 times:
Quoting LGW (Thread starter): Americans here in the forum how you all feel and what the general feeling is about Republicans and Democrats
Well it all falls along the party lines. There is a huge divide here in America. Terrorism, Iraq war, high price of oil and the latest assasination attempt visa vis, Hurricane Katrina are the driving forces behind the the division
Quoting LGW (Thread starter): Are the ones who are unhappy now, unhappy at Bush or Bush and the Republican party?
Both. Most of them were unhappy from the beginning. Bush still is very popular among his core supporters and his political base.
Quoting LGW (Thread starter): I'd rather not have the thread full of unfounded "I hate Bush" etc type posts, by all means tell me what you think but I am interested in the wider picture
Well brace yourself, it most likely will head in that direction. Count the endless numbers of the "Hate Bush" threads on here. Too many to keep track of. I took a break for about month from posting on the forum because I was a little busy but i'm ready to get back in here now.
Slider From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 6625 posts, RR: 36 Reply 5, posted (8 years 2 months 4 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 803 times:
We are in the final stages of the grand idea of the Republic if the course isn't reversed, IMHO.
The entire nation's populace has been fleeced into believing a two-party concept, that there is some difference between the two, and both parties are guilty of fanning the flames of racial, economic, moral and political differences for the sake of perpetuating an oligarchy.
The USA has sacrificed its borders, its language, its culture, the entire concept of limited government and has done so incrementally while apathy runs amok. The existing two-party construct doesn't even allow for a legitimate viable third party idea or candidate to even come forth.
We are citizens not subjects, yet we treated like the latter.
We are over-regulated, over-taxed, over monitored and there is literally no single element of our lives that does not involve government. This nation is spending itself into oblivion under the guise of good intentions.
Our moral fabric is decaying as well and that is exacerbating things.
I'm fed up with everyone inside the beltway and fed up with local yokels who get elected to serve their constituents and instead use it as a free pass to ingratiate themselves, take graft, and wield power injudiciously.
I hate politics, but am not apathetic and won't stop fighting.