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Detroit Mayor Focuses On Drug Use In Suburbs  
User currently offlineAirlinelover From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 5580 posts, RR: 23
Posted (9 years 1 month 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 1506 times:

I was driving to work today and heard a story on the news about Mayor Kwame Kilpatrick (Mayor of Detroit) taking about drug use, and how it's everywhere now.



(Quote may not be exact, heard it on the radio)
"Drug use by kids is prevelant in Macomb County, just like Detroit. Drug use among kids is prevelant in Oakland County, just like Detroit. The suburbs are the places where the drug crackdowns need happening, not in Detroit."

Umm.. Hello??? Last I heard, kwame was mayor of DETROIT.. His comments hav infuriated school superintendants and other local gov't people as well. It sounds like he's trying to shift focus from Detroit to other areas..

I might add that I work a few minutes from Detroit.. I work at a hotel. .and it's the people from DETROIT that always come in high to get a room. They are the ones who we have to kick out because of getting high in their rooms. I think only ONCE in the past 9 months have we kicked someone out who was NOT from Detroit due to drugs..

I know drug use is in more then just the ghettos, put people from there tend to use MORE then others..

Way to try to shift the blame Kwame.. I hope you don't get re-elected...

Chris

[Edited 2005-09-16 21:15:01]


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User currently onlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39905 posts, RR: 75
Reply 1, posted (9 years 1 month 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 1499 times:

Quoting Airlinelover (Thread starter):
Last I heard, kwame was mayor of DETROIT

Very true. Doesn't mean he can't comment on it.



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User currently offlineAirlinelover From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 5580 posts, RR: 23
Reply 2, posted (9 years 1 month 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 1495 times:

True, but he's trying to shift focus AWAY from Detroit.. This comment just came right out of the blue.. I guess the feds are trying to crack down on Detroit and he wants it to stop... the corrupt bastard.. (Not as bad as Daley though..)

Chris



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User currently offlineBirdwatching From Germany, joined Sep 2003, 3823 posts, RR: 51
Reply 3, posted (9 years 1 month 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 1494 times:

Quoting Airlinelover (Thread starter):
Drug Use In Subarbs

Looks like you're on those drugs yourself...  Smile so which Detroit subarb are you from?



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User currently offlineAirlinelover From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 5580 posts, RR: 23
Reply 4, posted (9 years 1 month 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 1492 times:

I live north of Sterling Heights.. And I am one of the people in the world who has not ever TRIED drugs, and has no wish to.

Kwame is famous for trying to pin blame onto anyone so he can get out of stuff. this is just the latest thing

Chris



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User currently offlineBirdwatching From Germany, joined Sep 2003, 3823 posts, RR: 51
Reply 5, posted (9 years 1 month 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 1489 times:

Quoting Airlinelover (Reply 4):
I live north of Sterling Heights.. And I am one of the people in the world who has not ever TRIED drugs, and has no wish to.

Sry man, this was not a serious question. I was just pointing at the spelling of the word... never mind.



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User currently offlineAirlinelover From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 5580 posts, RR: 23
Reply 6, posted (9 years 1 month 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 1483 times:

No worries.. I can't believe I did that.. well, best to fix it now huh...

Chris



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User currently onlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39905 posts, RR: 75
Reply 7, posted (9 years 1 month 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 1477 times:

Quoting Airlinelover (Reply 2):
I guess the feds are trying to crack down on Detroit

The feds have always been focused on Detroit.



What does a subarb look like?  Wink



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User currently offlineNewark777 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 9348 posts, RR: 29
Reply 8, posted (9 years 1 month 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 1473 times:

There is increasing drug use in the suburbs, not just in Detroit, but nearly every suburb of any major city in the nation, and it is because people are coming out of the city to the suburbs, and bringing the drugs with them. The cities are the areas with the ghettos, not the suburbs. Clean up the cities and this wouldn't be a problem.

I agree that this is just a distraction from the real cause of the problem, but do you expect anything less from a politician?

Harry



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User currently offlineSlider From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 6854 posts, RR: 34
Reply 9, posted (9 years 1 month 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 1466 times:

Quoting Airlinelover (Thread starter):
The suburbs are the places where the drug crackdowns need happening, not in Detroit."

Denial.

Sounds like New Orleans north....incompetent leadership deflecting criticism everywhere but where it belongs.

Detroit ought to worry about reducing crime, lowering taxes, and getting a grip instead of blaming the suburbs- they're growing out there because the city is a hole.


Sidenote- Kilpatrick, heh? Funny, he doesn't look Irish..  Wink


User currently onlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39905 posts, RR: 75
Reply 10, posted (9 years 1 month 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 1465 times:

Well not exactly a 'suburb' or "subarb", but the places like the state of Oregon is facing a serious problem with meth use.


http://www.kptv.com/Global/story.asp?S=2789003

Wow, can y'all believe that I am posting a link from Fox?  Wow!



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User currently offlineAirlinelover From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 5580 posts, RR: 23
Reply 11, posted (9 years 1 month 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 1464 times:

Lets add that the Detroit "Chief" of Police Ella Bully-Cummings is saying that she is being FORCED by courts to lay off over 100 more cops becuase her restructuring plan fell through.. More pure corruption...

Chris



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User currently offlineDaedaeg From United States of America, joined Feb 2003, 657 posts, RR: 1
Reply 12, posted (9 years 1 month 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 1458 times:

Quoting Newark777 (Reply 8):
There is increasing drug use in the suburbs, not just in Detroit, but nearly every suburb of any major city in the nation, and it is because people are coming out of the city to the suburbs, and bringing the drugs with them. The cities are the areas with the ghettos, not the suburbs. Clean up the cities and this wouldn't be a problem

Are you serious? You're trying pit the blame on the city for suburban drug use? I use to work in a very bad part of chicago, near an infamous public housing area. I would see tons of people, many of them white surbanites buying crack and the like to feed their habits. I knew they were from the burbs based on the city stickers on their cars and license plates.
People from the burbs have been doing drugs, be it crack or abusing prescription pills long before folks from the city moved there.



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User currently onlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39905 posts, RR: 75
Reply 13, posted (9 years 1 month 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 1452 times:

Airlinelover:
What trip are you on right now man?
This doesn't sound like you at all.



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User currently offlineNewark777 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 9348 posts, RR: 29
Reply 14, posted (9 years 1 month 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 1450 times:

Quoting Daedaeg (Reply 12):
Are you serious? You're trying pit the blame on the city for suburban drug use? I use to work in a very bad part of chicago, near an infamous public housing area. I would see tons of people, many of them white surbanites buying crack and the like to feed their habits. I knew they were from the burbs based on the city stickers on their cars and license plates.
People from the burbs have been doing drugs, be it crack or abusing prescription pills long before folks from the city moved there.

And I lived in a suburb of Newark and Irvington for many years, and my family moved, mainly because people were moving from the city, and crime and drug use went through the roof. You wonder why the suburbanites come into the city? Because that's where the drug dealers live!

Harry



Why grab a Heine when you can grab a Busch?
User currently offlineDtwclipper From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (9 years 1 month 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 1447 times:

There were two issues yesterday in the debate that got a lot of coverage.

Kwame is just diging his own grave!

http://www.freep.com/news/latestnews/pm6064_20050916.htm

1.Oakland County Executive L. Brooks Patterson and the superintendents of the Birmingham and Bloomfield Hills School districts said Friday they were outraged by Detroit Mayor Kwame Kilpatrick's debate comments about drug use by young people in their communities.

http://www.freep.com/news/politics/mayor16e_20050916.htm

2.Detroit Mayor Kwame Kilpatrick insinuated Thursday that challenger Freman Hendrix or his family had a criminal past -- an unsubstantiated gambit that could set the tone for a campaign with more friction than fact.


User currently onlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39905 posts, RR: 75
Reply 16, posted (9 years 1 month 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 1445 times:

These peoples drug addiction didn't start in the "ghetto".
These meth users don't live in big cities and meth labs aren't in the "ghettoe" either.







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User currently offlineAirlinelover From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 5580 posts, RR: 23
Reply 17, posted (9 years 1 month 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 1435 times:

Superfly- If I am on any sort of trip, it is one of being disgusted.. I hear so much (and see so much ) of what is wrong with Detroit. But not once have I seen the Mayor take responsibility for things that are due to HIS leadership. One of the largest problems he's been accused of (and always avoided) is the charges on his city AMEX card... PArties, gold outings, dinners, car rentals, etc.. All of which he attributes to "entertaining VIP guests" and the such. He ALWAYS sticks blame or reason on something else.

The police chief, while putting on a face of being disgusted with the cuts and layoffs, really has done nothing to counter the problems with the cops that are reported. She has done nothing to crack down on violence, drugs, or anything of the sort and there have been rumors of her pockets being nicely lined when she pretends to put up a fight on things but really is like "whatever" about it.

Quoting Newark777 (Reply 14):
And I lived in a suburb of Newark and Irvington for many years, and my family moved, mainly because people were moving from the city, and crime and drug use went through the roof. You wonder why the suburbanites come into the city? Because that's where the drug dealers live!

That's exactly the problem. The users may be all over, but by and large, the dealers are in the city where they don't get messed with. I guarantee you if some of these dealers were in cities like Clarkston or White Lake they'd be gone before they started..

Chris



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User currently offlineLTBEWR From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 13138 posts, RR: 15
Reply 18, posted (9 years 1 month 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 1435 times:

What I think the Detroit Mayor is saying is to also go after the white suburb buyers too, as their demand means they go to the cities like his for 'supplies'. Most of the white suburban users of illegal drugs like crack, cocaine, estecy, and sometimes pot, get them in the cities or local suburban dealers get them from nearby cities. I know in one case in the neighborhood I grew up in that this is true, as they would go into a nearby Northern NJ city to buy drugs or have them delivered to them in their suburban cape cod house, then the locals would show up 'when the shipment came in'. There are in numbers a lot more white middle class users of illegal drugs than the usual sterotype of blacks.
Now the Mayor of Detroit could help things by getting his cops to do their jobs, maybe with fed/county/state help, but then it would only last days before things are back to normal in the trade. However, the trade in the white suburbs must be busted too. It is only fair.


User currently offlineSlider From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 6854 posts, RR: 34
Reply 19, posted (9 years 1 month 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 1428 times:

http://www.freep.com/news/politics/mayor16e_20050916.htm

That little drug comment is the least of Kilpatrick's problems...

Check out the Kilpatrick VS Hendrix fact check.

The mayor hasn't run a balanced budget, hasn't followed through on what he said, has demolished the fewest buildings of any mayor, has the highest unemployment rate of any major US city, and has utterly failed in every regard. And he managed to slander Hendrix, the other candidate in the process, while it wasn't Hendrix, but Kilpatrick's family who was in jail. Nice.

Exactly what is there to appreciate about his leadership?


User currently offlineNewark777 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 9348 posts, RR: 29
Reply 20, posted (9 years 1 month 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 1417 times:

Quoting Superfly (Reply 16):
These peoples drug addiction didn't start in the "ghetto".
These meth users don't live in big cities and meth labs aren't in the "ghettoe" either.

Of course their addictions didn't start in the ghetto. Of course, they are also far from the norm when it comes to drug use. Meth is much less common than pot, crack, heroine, you name it, especially out east. I don't know what it is like in the midwest and beyond, but you can't take a few rednecks who cook up drugs in their barns and say it is proof that drugs don't come from the ghetto.

Harry



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User currently offlineSeptember11 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 3623 posts, RR: 21
Reply 21, posted (9 years 1 month 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 1400 times:

I wish we can stop this drug war. In some ways, drug war takes our reality away.


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