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User currently offlineBlackbird1331 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 1894 posts, RR: 0
Posted (9 years 2 months 1 week 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 1931 times:

It seems that there are no Rock&Roll bands left to nominate for induction into the Hall of Fame. It is has now become the time of rappers. What sick shit.


Cameras shoot pictures. Guns shoot people. They have the guns.
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User currently offlineDLKAPA From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (9 years 2 months 1 week 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 1926 times:

I can count on one hand the number of Rappers that should be allowed into the hall of fame.

1. Tupak Shakur
2. Eminem (because like it or not, he has more rhythm than any other mainstream rapper today)
3. Actually, there is no 3. If they start opening the door to any average rapper, then the RARHOF will have lost almost all coolness. The coolness will be completely gone when they let in LHMarks band.


User currently offlineEddieGunsmoke From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (9 years 2 months 1 week 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 1913 times:

I love Rock n Roll, and it's very much alive! Check out the band Jack Baymoore & The Bandits for some classic 50's Rock n Roll / Rock-A-Billy.

User currently offlineBlackbird1331 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 1894 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (9 years 2 months 1 week 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 1887 times:

This is a personal problem. I think rap sucks. There is no changing my mind. 101.1FM, the "Oldies" station, is off the air. "The Times They Are A Changing".
I will have to accept that. Good bye old times, good luck to the next generation. I hope you do not go deaf at an early age.



Cameras shoot pictures. Guns shoot people. They have the guns.
User currently offlineDLKAPA From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (9 years 2 months 1 week 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 1883 times:

We have the best classic rock station out of Farmington. It's network so we get Bob and Tom and Alice Cooper Nights, but they still spin some great old tunes. Rush, BOC, Hendrix, The Doors, Dire Straights, Stevie Nicks, all good stuff.

User currently offlineBlackbird1331 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 1894 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (9 years 2 months 1 week 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 1875 times:

DLKAPA: But, where are you located? I am in N.J.


Cameras shoot pictures. Guns shoot people. They have the guns.
User currently offlineEddieGunsmoke From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (9 years 2 months 1 week 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 1873 times:

Quoting Blackbird1331 (Reply 3):
Good bye old times

Please my friend, tell me what R'n'R you like.


User currently offlineBR076 From Netherlands, joined May 2005, 1086 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (9 years 2 months 1 week 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 1864 times:

Rock and Roll gave us Rammstein

mission accomplished Big grin



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User currently offlineDLKAPA From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (9 years 2 months 1 week 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 1861 times:

Quoting Blackbird1331 (Reply 5):
DLKAPA: But, where are you located? I am in N.J.

Southwest Colorado.


User currently offlineGreasespot From Canada, joined Apr 2004, 3085 posts, RR: 20
Reply 9, posted (9 years 2 months 1 week 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 1850 times:

I am thinking that blackbird has become a , To quote GKIRK, a  grumpy   old  git...  Smile


Sometimes all you can do is look them in the eye and ask " how much did your mom drink when she was pregnant with you?"
User currently offlineJalto27R From United States of America, joined May 2004, 857 posts, RR: 14
Reply 10, posted (9 years 2 months 1 week 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 1843 times:

Blackbird,

I don't know what part of NJ you are from, but I'm from South Jersey, and I get all the good Philly stations. 102.9 MGK, 97.5 The Hawk, 93.3 WMMR, 94 WYSP. I love em' all. I think as time goes on we'll have to start using satellite radio if we expect to get any good rock n' roll.

Mike


User currently offlineBlackbird1331 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 1894 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (9 years 2 months 1 week 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 1833 times:

Hey Greaspot; Grrrrrrrrrrr. I am a tiger when it comes to this music, not some washed-up wannabe.

To all of you Rock&Rollers, rock on.



Cameras shoot pictures. Guns shoot people. They have the guns.
User currently offlineSrbmod From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (9 years 2 months 1 week 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 1804 times:

There are quite a few bands that I feel deserve at least a nomination:

The Jam
The Specials
Madness
B-52s
The (English) Beat
New York Dolls
Desmond Dekker (If Bob Marley can be in there, why not Desmond?)
Jimmy Cliff
Hüsker Dü
The Replacements

Some that will become eligible in the next few years:

R.E.M.
Billy Idol
Duran Duran
Depeche Mode


User currently offlineGQfluffy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (9 years 2 months 1 week 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 1770 times:

Rap is NOT Rock and Roll. So why should any rap artests be inducted into the Hall of Fame?

User currently offlineB744F From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (9 years 2 months 1 week 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 1750 times:

will someone please! force Page, Plant, John Paul Jones, and Bonhams son to reform Zeppelin?

User currently offlineSalukipilot From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 162 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (9 years 2 months 1 week 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 1744 times:

Someone forgot that in a few years Nirvana will be eligible for induction...
...and yes, rap sucks ass...



Silver Airways Captain
User currently offlineKilljoy From Finland, joined Dec 1999, 646 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (9 years 2 months 1 week 5 days ago) and read 1737 times:

If Keith Richards can still stay upright, so can rock and roll.

New popular artists are complete shit, but as long as he and Jagger keep performing, I'll be fine.


User currently offlineSrbmod From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (9 years 2 months 1 week 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 1727 times:

Quoting Salukipilot (Reply 15):
Someone forgot that in a few years Nirvana will be eligible for induction...

More than a few years. A artist or band is eligible for the Hall of Fame 25 years after their first record release. Bleach came out in 1989, so they won't be eligible until 2014, which is more than a few years away.

Quoting GQfluffy (Reply 13):
Rap is NOT Rock and Roll. So why should any rap artests be inducted into the Hall of Fame?

Rap, especially the early years, was influenced by and influenced Rock and Roll. It took Run DMC and Aerosmith teaming up on "Walk This Way" for rap to really hit the mainstream. And one cannot forget the impact on rock and alternative music The Beastie Boys have made.


User currently offlineSantosdumont From Brazil, joined Dec 2003, 1201 posts, RR: 4
Reply 18, posted (9 years 2 months 1 week 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 1705 times:

Quoting Blackbird1331 (Thread starter):
It seems that there are no Rock&Roll bands left to nominate for induction into the Hall of Fame. It is has now become the time of rappers. What sick shit.

One could certainly come to that conclusion using MTV as a sole compass. But to quote Neil Young "Rock 'n Roll can never die."

You have to make a distinction between contemporary rock and classic rock; in my brief stint as a DJ at a classic rock station I got my share of phone calls from "purists" complaining that "Oh, the Pretenders aren't classic rock," "The Clash aren't classic rock," etc. etc.

There's great modern rock and roll out there; you're just not going to find it in the mainstream. Hasn't it always been that way? Tomorrow's classic rock is percolating just below the radar.

IMHO, I don't think rock and roll is about lamenting the state of current music and seeking shelter in the confines of In-A-Gadda-Vida land. By definition, rock and roll is subversive; you're not always going to find the best kind by turning on a corporate radio station. When Elvis Presley was breaking onto the scene do you think he got any serious airplay? The predecessors of Pat Robertson and Jerry Falwell were hellbent on eliminating him and other purveyors of "nigger music" from the airwaves...

As recently as the late 1980s, there was a similar thing going on. Metallica's "And Justice For All..." album went to number one without the benefit of airplay on major stations or video exposure on MTV; the fans basically told the bloated, fossilized radio suits to f*ck themselves. Only then did the corporate types start fawning over how great Metallica was.

As for rap not being rock and roll...you have to consider that both styles -- in their purest form -- are quite similar. Both were crafted by African slaves and their descendants, and both represented a serious threat to the status quo. (Now, I'm not talking about the latest slab of product served up by Sean Combs where the extent of creativity stops at posturing about pimpin' and dick size). Similarly, both rock and roll and rap were co-opted by the establishment to make them more palatable for the middle class and ultimately for use as a marketing tool.

Might I suggest you check out www.kissfm.com.br; it's the classic rock station here in Sao Paulo. You can catch the live feed by clicking on the "ao vivo" icon on the left hand side under the red guitar.



"Pursuit Of Truth No Matter Where It Lies" -- Metallica
User currently offlineTheredbaron From Mexico, joined Mar 2005, 2306 posts, RR: 9
Reply 19, posted (9 years 2 months 1 week 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 1704 times:

Music in the U.S.A.right now is a joke, its Rap 24/7 good there are still bands like N.J. Symphony X that rock on like there is no tomorrow.

Yesterday I went to see ANGRA a Brazilian Rock band, a sure those guys knocked my socks off!, same with Ramstein, and other NON USA groups, because Rap is the "thing" in the Music industry and itslike a disease just like Disco music...yechhh.

RUSH should BE in the RR hall of Fame....



The best seat in a Plane is the Jumpseat.
User currently offlineUsnseallt82 From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 4891 posts, RR: 52
Reply 20, posted (9 years 2 months 1 week 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 1670 times:

Quoting Blackbird1331 (Thread starter):
It seems that there are no Rock&Roll bands left to nominate for induction into the Hall of Fame. It is has now become the time of rappers. What sick shit.

I hate rap...with a passion. But there is still a ton of rock bands out now. Most are going towards a harder rock style, which I love, and then some soften up for the pop audience. If only Metallica would get their shit together then maybe they could spit something else out. Until then.............peace out jigga.  Big grin

Quoting Srbmod (Reply 12):
B-52s

That's debatable.  boggled 



Crye me a river
User currently offlineApuneger From Belgium, joined Sep 2000, 3032 posts, RR: 11
Reply 21, posted (9 years 2 months 1 week 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 1664 times:

Quoting BR076 (Reply 7):
Rock and Roll gave us Rammstein

Amen to that!

Nowadays, the only thing you get to see on these European music channels is R&B, rap, some stupid dance sh#t etc... If you're lucky you will see some Linkin' Park between 11 and midnight on a Tuesday evening or so. Where did all those impressive videos of bands like Metallica and Nirvana go to?

Time to re-animate Headbangers' Ball!

Greets,
Ivan



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User currently offlineUsnseallt82 From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 4891 posts, RR: 52
Reply 22, posted (9 years 2 months 1 week 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 1657 times:

Quoting Apuneger (Reply 21):
Time to re-animate Headbangers' Ball!

YES YES YES YES YES!!!!!!!

You've got my vote!!!!  bigthumbsup 



Crye me a river
User currently offlineGLAGAZ From UK - Scotland, joined Feb 2004, 1983 posts, RR: 11
Reply 23, posted (9 years 2 months 1 week 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 1652 times:

Rock n Roll is certainly not dead. I also agree that cRAP sucks.

Not been to many concerts this year but here they are.

Status Quo
Velvet Revolver
Glenn Hughes
Hells Bells (Amazing ACDC tribute band)

I think thats it for 2005, at the end of 2004 I saw the Darkness twice, YES, Breed77 and a few others.

I've got tickets for DIO and Robert Plant in a few months also. Might go to Reuben? and Nine Black Alps.

Gaz



Neutrality means that u don't really care cos the struggle goes on even when ur not there, blind and unaware
User currently offlineSlider From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 6912 posts, RR: 34
Reply 24, posted (9 years 2 months 1 week 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 1603 times:

Quoting EddieGunsmoke (Reply 2):
I love Rock n Roll, and it's very much alive! Check out the band Jack Baymoore & The Bandits for some classic 50's Rock n Roll / Rock-A-Billy.

THe problem isn't that these bands aren't out there, it's that they can't get visibility! Or record deals. Or airplay. Or appropriate marketing.

Corporate chain radio has whacked individual DJs and obscure bands don't exist on radio much. I do love Little Steven's Underground Garage though....great stuff. That dude is definitely carrying the torch.

Quoting Theredbaron (Reply 19):
Music in the U.S.A.right now is a joke,

Yup.


25 Blackbird1331 : If not dead, at least catatonic.
26 Srbmod : It so catatonic that even blasting something by Motorhead won't rouse it. Sirius Satellite 25, my second favorite channel on Sirius.
27 MaverickM11 : Puh-leaze...every generation has bemoaned how their music was so great but has since been taken over by modern crap. It was all crap. Get over yourse
28 Blackbird1331 : Well, at least my hearing is not too bad. I know what I like. Rap is crap. Get over your own miseries. I am busy.
29 Post contains images Srbmod : I'm not using Cosmic Thing and everything they've done since that album as the basis for why they should be in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. Their
30 OzarkD9S : "Rock and Roll" has been dead since the late 1950's due to a combination of factors: * Chuck Berry going to jail for violating the Mann Act. * Jerry L
31 Post contains images Usnseallt82 : Hey, this is where I grew up! Yeah, it definitely has some good bands coming out and lots of underground stuff of every genre. Weird city, especially
32 Post contains images San747 : Do you mean KEARTH 101 in LA? No way! I love that station! I love listening to "Back to the Beatles" on Sundays at 10-11... Hell yea! I was too young
33 TedTAce : Dude, put the bong down, we already know you are permanately stoned Was.... to bad so sad.. I think they are overdue for another album, but there is
34 Post contains images Usnseallt82 : A Perfect Circle, Atreyu, Audioslave, Breaking Benjamin, Chevelle, Cold, Crossfade, The Darkness, Disturbed, Earshot, Godsmack, Hoobastank, Incubus, K
35 Post contains images Usnseallt82 : Also, if you like good hard shit.....check out Ill Nino fast! Then check out their new album in a week. Makes you want to fight a war or something....
36 Post contains images MxCtrlr : As long as pioneers like The Rolling Stones, Paul McCartney, Robert Plant, Tom Scholz, Jon Bon Jovi (just heard his new one - Have A Nice Day - today
37 AMSGOT : Rock 'n' Roll is still very much alive. This is exactly what R'n'R isn't about! Give them a chance! Like them for they've made so far!!! And yes, Gree
38 Srbmod : Jack White has pretty much proven that he's not a one trick pony. He arranged and produced "Van Lear Rose", which put Loretta Lynn back in the spotli
39 Blackbird1331 : San747: The 101.1 I am refering to was WCBSFM New York City. What I think your father and other people are saying is that the great performers have al
40 Post contains images Slider : John Fogerty's touring. Therefore, rock and roll isn't dead.
41 San747 : I can't believe I forgot Shinedown on that list! And Ill Nino has some good stuff as well... And I just remembered right now- Skindred, Dreamtheatre,
42 Blackbird1331 : Okay, it is not dead, it has morphoed. Rant on.
43 Post contains links Zippyjet : Zippyjet feels your pain! Music permantly Jumped The Shark around 1973 when radio become polarized and segmented. Artists such as Curtis Mayfield, an
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