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User currently offlineAvianca From Venezuela, joined Jan 2005, 5925 posts, RR: 40
Posted (8 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 2178 times:

wow, what will get it seems big coalition between CDU/SPD or SPD/FDP/Greens

or SPD/PDS/GREEN


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User currently offlineAvianca From Venezuela, joined Jan 2005, 5925 posts, RR: 40
Reply 1, posted (8 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 2166 times:

no CDU/FDP possible so far...

regards



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User currently offlineSabena332 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (8 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 2167 times:

Muhahahahahaha  bigthumbsup   bigthumbsup   bigthumbsup 

Patrick


User currently offlineFRACO7X From Germany, joined Apr 2004, 345 posts, RR: 8
Reply 3, posted (8 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 2163 times:

According to ZDF

CDU/CSU 37%
SPD 33%
FDP 10,5%
Gruene 8%
Die Linke 8%

[Edited 2005-09-18 18:06:00]

User currently offlineAndreas From Germany, joined Oct 2001, 6104 posts, RR: 31
Reply 4, posted (8 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 2159 times:

UNFUCKINGBELIEVABLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Patrick I don't really know what there is to laugh about.

I just hope it going to be traffic light (or Jamaica coalition).

Jesus what a mess!!!!!



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User currently offlineAvianca From Venezuela, joined Jan 2005, 5925 posts, RR: 40
Reply 5, posted (8 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 2158 times:

bad day for germany!!!


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User currently offlineFRACO7X From Germany, joined Apr 2004, 345 posts, RR: 8
Reply 6, posted (8 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 2147 times:

It will be an interesting evening

User currently offlineAvianca From Venezuela, joined Jan 2005, 5925 posts, RR: 40
Reply 7, posted (8 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 2136 times:

Quoting FRACO7X (Reply 6):
It will be an interesting evening

oh yes with many many beer!!!  Smile



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User currently offlineFRACO7X From Germany, joined Apr 2004, 345 posts, RR: 8
Reply 8, posted (8 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 2112 times:

Quoting Avianca (Reply 7):
oh yes with many many beer!!!

Prost!


User currently offlineDAL767400ER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (8 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 2097 times:

These elections are f'd up. Looks like it's either the Big Coalition, which means no forward movement, or the Ampel, which would be the final nail in Germany's coffin. Time to seek political asylum somewhere.

User currently offlineHAJFlyer From Switzerland, joined Sep 2005, 1473 posts, RR: 9
Reply 10, posted (8 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 2086 times:

Quoting DAL767400ER (Reply 9):
Time to seek political asylum somewhere.

There will probably be long lines of people seeking work and residence permits in front of the Canadian and Australian consulates tomorrow.

Maybe these countries can be convinced to increase their immigration quotas for Germans given the special circumstances  Wink


User currently offlineDAL767400ER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (8 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 2068 times:

Quoting HAJFlyer (Reply 10):
Maybe these countries can be convinced to increase their immigration quotas for Germans given the special circumstances

Don't think that's necessary. In these days, Germans would even be willing to seek asylum in Holland, and that says something  Silly .


User currently offlineThorben From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (8 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 2064 times:

I suppose we can finally change the name from "Deutschland" to "Dummland". Majority for Red-Red-Green. This is the third time in a row that it is not enough for black-yellow. It can happen once, even twice, but three times in a row???  banghead 

I'll leave and go to Switzerland or Denmark, or Iceland, New Zealand, whatever.  cry 


User currently offlineHAJFlyer From Switzerland, joined Sep 2005, 1473 posts, RR: 9
Reply 13, posted (8 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 2045 times:

Quoting Thorben (Reply 12):
'll leave and go to Switzerland

Under the bilateral treaty that Switzerland has signed with the EU you can move to Switzerland as a EU citizen without having to go through a lengthy work or residence permit approval process

See you soon south of the border !  Big grin


User currently offlineStratofish From Germany, joined Sep 2001, 1051 posts, RR: 5
Reply 14, posted (8 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 2025 times:

Münte says the SPD won`t go into coalition or even form a minority with the Greens and allowed by the PDS.

Damn, can't those guys see that's what the majority of Germans want???
Red/Red/Green should at least be an option, dammit!



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User currently offlineAndreas From Germany, joined Oct 2001, 6104 posts, RR: 31
Reply 15, posted (8 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 2007 times:

Yes Stratofish!!!! Let the SED rule Germany...the frustrated former SED will tell us what to do!

I'm not sure what makes you think to know WHAT the voters wanted...red in the government certainly not..at least not in the West, and that is still more than 75% of the German voters!

In fact I believe that Germany East and West have brought forth a totally different result...crazy!!



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User currently offlineLH526 From Germany, joined Aug 2000, 2360 posts, RR: 14
Reply 16, posted (8 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 2007 times:
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Quoting HAJFlyer (Reply 13):
Under the bilateral treaty that Switzerland has signed with the EU you can move to Switzerland as a EU citizen without having to go through a lengthy work or residence permit approval process

See you soon south of the border ! Big grin

Count me in, too! Off to Switzerland I am! The "Ausländer B" passport is waiting.

Mario
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User currently offlineAvianca From Venezuela, joined Jan 2005, 5925 posts, RR: 40
Reply 17, posted (8 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 2006 times:

Quoting Stratofish (Reply 14):
Red/Red/Green should at least be an option, dammit!

 crazy   crazy   crazy 



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User currently offlineHAJFlyer From Switzerland, joined Sep 2005, 1473 posts, RR: 9
Reply 18, posted (8 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 2001 times:

Quoting Stratofish (Reply 14):
Red/Red/Green should at least be an option, dammit!

You have got to be kidding ! And then what ? An unemployment rate of 20% in 4 years time ? If you guys don´t mange to pass some radical labor market and tax reforms, you will go straight form being the "sick man of Europe" to being a third world country.

  

[Edited 2005-09-18 18:49:48]

User currently offlineAndreas From Germany, joined Oct 2001, 6104 posts, RR: 31
Reply 19, posted (8 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 1996 times:

Quoting HAJFlyer (Reply 13):
Under the bilateral treaty that Switzerland has signed with the EU you can move to Switzerland as a EU citizen without having to go through a lengthy work or residence permit approval process

See you soon south of the border !

Thanks for the reassuring hint  Wink Big grin

I'll opt for London though...I understand the language there Big grin



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User currently offlineAvianca From Venezuela, joined Jan 2005, 5925 posts, RR: 40
Reply 20, posted (8 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 1978 times:

FDP anounced, no Ampel Coaltion!!!!

so Big Coaltion between CDU/CSU and SPD

or the Jamaica one CDU/CSU + FDP + GREEN



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User currently offlineAndreas From Germany, joined Oct 2001, 6104 posts, RR: 31
Reply 21, posted (8 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 1967 times:

Avianca: Opposition is NOT what Tante Guido wants...especially not side by side with the greens who will render FDP obsolete...wait and see:

THough that Jamaica case sounds like BIIIIG fun  Wink



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User currently offlineSabena332 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (8 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 1967 times:

Quoting Avianca (Reply 20):
FDP anounced, no Ampel Coaltion!!!!

Ridiculous! What a bunch of retards!

Patrick


User currently offlineAvianca From Venezuela, joined Jan 2005, 5925 posts, RR: 40
Reply 23, posted (8 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 1957 times:

Quoting Sabena332 (Reply 22):
Quoting Avianca (Reply 20):
FDP anounced, no Ampel Coaltion!!!!

Ridiculous! What a bunch of retards!

at least one good news today !!! no Ampel!!!



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User currently offlineAvianca From Venezuela, joined Jan 2005, 5925 posts, RR: 40
Reply 24, posted (8 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 1948 times:

Quoting Andreas (Reply 21):
THough that Jamaica case sounds like BIIIIG fun

hmmm do you think it will works with the Greens??? not really or



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25 Avianca : its just redicilues what all kind of shit all partys says in the moment in the TV... it seems that all are felling the winner of tonight...
26 FRACO7X : Fully agree with this. Everybody is just giving stupid comments. What about new elections again?
27 Avianca : could be ! and I hope
28 Post contains images HAJFlyer : This outcome reminds me of the political situation in Italy: Lots of parties, no clear majorities and lots of possibilities for ever changing coalitio
29 Avianca : Mr.Westerwelle / FDP no ampel or other "hampelleien" with FDP[Edited 2005-09-18 19:12:06]
30 Post contains images StevenUhl777 : Germany should implement the Electoral College... No clear winner, uncertainty about who will rule...kinda sounds familiar... Recount, anyone?
31 Post contains images HAJFlyer : Oh yeah, I can´t wait for more news stories on pregnant or dimpled chads...Florida, here we come !
32 Thorben : Jamaica seems to be the only options. All the Leftists can make their opposition, spending most time hating each other, while the country is ruled by
33 Avianca : totally agree...
34 HansaRostock : IMO this result mirrors Germany's "thinkin" of today..... --> "I'm not really satisfied with that RedGreen...but I won't be happy with this Merkel/Bec
35 Post contains images Thorben : The funny thing is, nobody won, but everyone declares himself to be the winner!
36 Sabena332 : Gerd just said that "all those people who wanted to change the cancellor failed!" Patrick
37 Avianca : he seems already drunk, ha? did he won the election, not really ...
38 Thorben : And he yells at the CDU/CSU how they can declare themselves to be the ones to form a government with this "disastrous result". He has always been tel
39 Avianca : have to agree
40 Andreas : Well no, Jamaica will not work...and I'm afraid the same goes for Ampel...the reason is: The greens...they'll be junior of 3, meaning no real existenc
41 Post contains links Jetjack74 : Exit polling data says that Merkel's win is all but official. Germany's 1st female leader. MSNBC
42 Racko : Your article is a bit outdated Jetjack, it's 35.4/34.2 currently. Well, considering the results we have 4 choices: RedRedGreen: No way in hell Schröd
43 Post contains images Christa : Why on earth didn't the German public realize that the only way that they can solve Germany's problems is by voting CDU. Schröder can no longer keep
44 Post contains images Sabena332 : This was the most hillarious post I saw here since a long time! Patrick
45 Thorben : I hope not. FDP the life belt for this silly coalition?? They would never get ten percent again. Probably not even five for the next 50 years. Same w
46 HAJFlyer : I wonder whether any of the large rating agencies will put Germany's AAA rating on the watchlist for a downgrade now that any meaningful reforms seem
47 Post contains images Sabena332 : Just on ARD: Nicolaus Brender: "Ich sage Bundeskanzler zu Ihnen, sie sind es ja noch". Gerhard Schröder: "Ich bleibe es auch!". Very cool answer!  
48 Andreas : Well Christa, as usual it's not that easy it seems. Besides I'm still not sure if you are right! And you have to tell people in a way that they unders
49 Christa : So instead you vote for idiots that will not change Germany's economic situation. Personally, I believe that Germany has made a big mistake. Regards,
50 Sabena332 : You have no clue what you are talking about. Patrick
51 Racko : Well, at least the Economist (not the least important source for the opinion of the international business world) says Germany is on the way up, not
52 Andreas : Yes we have!!! Though not the way you described it: We made the mistake to leave this country virtually without stable government. For the first time
53 Post contains images HAJFlyer : Sabena332, this is how is the situation in Germany is perceived by many of those watching from abroad and shaking their heads at the inability of the
54 Andreas : Don't be ridiculous!! No way they will...why??
55 Klaus : The almost funny thing is that the CDU would be doing most of what Schröder did - only more extremely so. And the population majority clearly voted a
56 Post contains images Andreas : Klaus: Makes one wonder why many people actually wanted a big coalition But then the fact is that the CDU wants reforms the way the SPD proposed it at
57 Post contains images HAJFlyer : I agree 100% with your assessment of the journalistic qualities of The Economist. While they did point out that some labor market reforms had been im
58 HAJFlyer : High structural fiscal deficits, unfavorable demographic development in combination with an underfunded pay-as-you-go government pension scheme, slow
59 Post contains images Andreas : Erm yes...it would be nice to go on...I can't see a single argument that REALLY counts under Standard&Poor's country rating guidelines. And btw: Exce
60 Klaus : You need to look at reality. If you actually look beyond the comfortable prejudices, things look quite differently. Tax levels actually paid are pret
61 Racko : Uhm? Your reasoning is sensible, your conclusion is not. The majority either wants the current reforms, or even more than that, certainly not less.
62 Post contains images Andreas : Besides I'm not really sure what to think about the Linkspartei. If you re-divide into PDS and WASG, it is very well possible that neither would have
63 HAJFlyer : quote=Andreas,reply=59]I can't see a single argument that REALLY counts under Standard&Poor's country rating guidelines.[/quote] Form of purely techni
64 NoUFO : I'm home! It didn't even take two hours to cound 718 ballots, which is fast if you take into account that each ballot with different 1st and 2nd votes
65 NoUFO : Is that so? I'd say 3% would have been plenty ...[Edited 2005-09-18 21:11:47]
66 Clipperhawaii : Sunday's vote centered on different visions of Germany's role in the world and how to fix its sputtering economy. Schroeder touted the country's role
67 Post contains images HAJFlyer : Seems like the race between CDU/CSU and SPD is getting tighter again. N-TV predicts the following outcome as of 09:15 CET: SPD: 34.2% CDU/CSU: 34.8%
68 NoUFO : The USA wasn't an issue this time (fortunately, since I couldn't stand Schroeders stance in this respect). Iraq was, yes, but not the USA.
69 HansaRostock : ...yes....and with "CD(S)U-ideas" it will become worse....lets face it...without immigrants we'll have 50m. out of 80m. in 2025....
70 Post contains images Andreas : Actually a number in the subpromille area would have been plenty, but it's nonetheless good to know where the naysayers stand...it's also good to kno
71 Post contains images Mrniji : Because Germans don't shag with such an ugly girl like you do Oh, even I was smiling.. the real winner is German democracy and the sovereignty of peo
72 Andreas : A very small side effect: Merkel said something about being friendly to Bush but otherwise kept her mouth shut since Schroeder tried to point out tha
73 Mrniji : And that is bad enough.. friendly to that guy
74 Post contains images HansaRostock : Well....even the worst result couldn't force me to take some Korn... Hope it will be over soon....
75 Racko : According to a TV-Station, it could happen that SPD is still the biggest faction in the Bundestag because of the Überhangmandate. I have decided to s
76 Andreas : Well yes...Merkel as Junior and ministry of state under Chancellor Schroeder in a big coalition...time to smile and go to bed...g'night boys!
77 Post contains images Gkirk : Who really cares about the election results from a third world country like Germany? Even the Dutch look good compared to Germans
78 Post contains links and images Sabena332 : Look what I just found: Scotland Most Violent Country In Developed World (by Andz Sep 18 2005 in Non Aviation) Already picked a fight tonight in your
79 Avianca : I agree and what is Mr. Schröder, it was a joke what he presented in the "Elefantenrunde"
80 TheSonntag : CHAOS!!! I cannot say anything else
81 Post contains images TheSonntag : Better have ugly Germans than people that cannot drive on the Autobahn I am visiting a friend of mine thats studying in Leiden in two weeks, I'll che
82 Sabena332 : This was not a joke, this was just pretty hillarious! I am glad that he made clear that he will stay cancellor and that the Merkel can go and [censor
83 Post contains images HansaRostock : that's what it's all about... ...they call it democracy...and I love it...who needs a 75+% result??
84 Post contains images RobertNL070 : Thanks That's what we thought in January 2003. There was a comparable result in the Dutch General Election when the Christian Democrats (CDA) won 44
85 Post contains links and images Avianca : you gave him some Hefeweizen before, or Patrick it seems SPD and CDU/CSU will have the same seats... on no.. http://www.netzeitung.de/spezial/neuwahl
86 Christa : ....Moron..
87 Post contains links and images Thorben : Right. Kirchhof was under heavy fire, Schröder just kept on lying and scaring people. And they believe it, some girl said a couple of days to me: "I
88 NoUFO : Quite to the contrary. There are plenty of information online. In most (if not all) western states, Die Linken did not achieve 5 percent. Nana, those
89 HansaRostock : ok....as for aviation.....CDU got a 767 till 1989....and then without doin' anythin for it they got a 747......result?? yields went down....
90 Lumberton : Could someone please explain this? There are many ways to segment along demographic lines: age, gender, ethnic, immigration, sexual preference, etc.
91 Post contains images HAJFlyer : Sorry for not being precise ! What I meant is that the proportion of retirees is set to climb further over the next two decades thereby putting an ad
92 Lumberton : Not at all. Thank you for the quick explanation. Sounds like our social security system here. Too many old people coming up in a few years for benefi
93 TheSonntag : Welcome to Banana Republic Of Germany!!!
94 Post contains images Thorben : Whatever. The investment climate might be well (measured by whatever), but there is a lack of investment. The Studies I read always put Germany in an
95 Post contains images TS : I couldn't agree more. My initial thought was: Pack the bags & leave this mess of a country. A few weeks ago it looked like a perfectly comfortable m
96 TheSonntag : I am concerned about the result because it eliminates one of the last biggest arguments for Germany: Stability. Governments in Germany were known to l
97 NoUFO : Dead wrong again. Ours are lower than the British, French, Spanish ... Probably true, and last time I checked, basically every political party wanted
98 F.pier : I think that whoever wins in Germany, he/she will try to do the best he/she can for his/her state. On the other hand we are unlucky, because whoever w
99 HAJFlyer : Yes it is basically the same as yours with the exception that Germany until very recently did not have anything resembling your tax free IRAs or 401K
100 NoUFO : Let's say the East-Germans and some of the Scandinavian countries in particular.
101 Post contains images HansaRostock : really can't believe u'r a student livin' in Berlin.... (I wonder what the eco-growth would have been 1990-1994 if the "westerners" didn't had that "
102 HAJFlyer : While that statement would probably be regarded as politically incorrect by many of your compatriots, I do agree that there is more than just a grain
103 TS : The majority of all Germans believes in the nanny state that takes care of them from birth to death. The Social Democrats addressed this feeling & we
104 Post contains images Klaus : No. The only two parties who wanted more extreme reforms are in the minority: CDU/CSU and FDP. SPD and Greens are conducting the current reforms and
105 Sabena332 : Ok, what can we expect now? I can think of only two situations: Either Mrs. Westerwelle shuts her big mouth and agrees to build a coalition with the S
106 NoUFO : I have no idea what you consider "the older generation", HAJFlyer, but the German reunification was sixteen years ago.
107 Post contains images TS : Are you drunk? How about this one: CDU become the strongest party in the parliament & form a grand coalition. Result => Schröder to write his memoir
108 NoUFO : Either you are an optimist or you have never been good at maths. It's possible that Schroeder stays Chancellor, but not because he says so, for heave
109 Avianca : ahhh why should they... CDU/CSU has the biggst "Fraktion" so no way... schroeders ass will kicked...
110 Post contains images HansaRostock : I'm not offended (I still dont get that people talkin 'bout somethin "better before") ... .. I call myself happy livin the way my parents weren't all
111 NoUFO : Avianca, CDU/CSU form the largest fraction, but the Chancellor is voted into office by the Bundestag - not the largest fraction.[Edited 2005-09-19 00:
112 Post contains images Sabena332 : A bit. I am sure that the SPD won't accept a big coalition when the Merkel could become chancellor. I noticed that and edited the post. 1. No, I was
113 Post contains images HansaRostock :
114 Post contains images Sabena332 : HansaRostock got it! By the way, congrats on the first 3 points to your club! Actually I felt sorry when my beloved VfL Bochum beat them in the 93rd m
115 TS : Then we should prepare to go to the polls again.
116 Sabena332 : Would this be possible? I would rather say that Mr. Koehler will pick the "leading" party (until now the CDU) and tell them to negotiate with another
117 Post contains links Sabena332 : Please see the follow up thread: Election Results In Germany - Follow Up Thread (by TheSonntag Sep 19 2005 in Non Aviation) Patrick
118 Post contains images TS : Hm, it's quite complicated & I'm afraid we'd need a legal expert. Whatever colour a new coalition will have, it will be a very unstable one. Thomas
119 Dazeflight : To all the whiners on here: don't blame it on Schroeder, don't blame it on Trittin, don't blame it on the Ossis: blame it on the stupidness of Mrs Mer
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