DfwRevolution From United States of America, joined Jan 2010, 1084 posts, RR: 51
Reply 1, posted (10 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 2715 times:
>> Also, are there any companies that get oil solely from the US? I think Sunoco might be one...
There are tons of smaller, independent firms that work only in the US. My dad was in the petroleum industry and worked exclusivly in the US his entire career. Oryx comes to mind, but they were aquired by Kerr-McGhee....
Garnetpalmetto From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 5535 posts, RR: 51
Reply 4, posted (10 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 2685 times:
Quoting Flyf15 (Thread starter): I've heard that Citgo is solely Venzuelan, but I'm not sure. Does BP get all of its oil from the North Sea?
No, and no. Citgo imports from the Middle East although most of its oil does come from Venezuela. BP also gets oil from the Middle East as well. Sunoco imports primarily from Canada, Angola, and Nigeria.
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Flyf15 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (10 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 2678 times:
Ah, I suppose I kind of asked the wrong question. For gas stations, which ones can I be sure that if I'm pumping gas in my car, none of the oil had a chance of coming from the middle east? And, are there any where I can be sure the gas came from the US?
Flyf15 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (10 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 2635 times:
It is not some big conservation thing or whatever I'm after. I was just pumping gas today and got kind of angry thinking about how a portion of the money I was spending was going to end up in the hands of someone in the middle east. Its easy enough to pick a different gas station and avoid this...
CaptOveur From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (10 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 2621 times:
Honestly, when it comes out at the gas pump you could be buying anyone's oil.
Gasoline is gasoline until it gets dumped in the truck to be delivered. Someone else can handle the long winded explanation as to how the pipeline system and everything works. The point is the fuel you buy from say a BP station, may have actually been refined by Shell, Citgo, Exxon, Valero, anyone with a refinery.
Luisde8cd From Pitcairn Islands, joined Aug 2004, 2577 posts, RR: 29
Reply 12, posted (10 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 2620 times:
Citgo is owned by the Venezuelan govt. as it was previously mentioned. Citgo has a couple of refinaries in the Gulf Coast and the East Coast. Around 80% of the crude processed in those refineries come from Venezuela.
L410Turbolet From Czech Republic, joined May 2004, 5870 posts, RR: 18
Reply 14, posted (10 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 2601 times:
Quoting Flyf15 (Reply 10): Its easy enough to pick a different gas station and avoid this...
I think it's not. As CaptOveur explained the way it (usually) works is that generic gasoline refined in refinery XY is supplied to most/all gas stations within certain geographic area because transporting tanks of fuel accross half of the country by trucks/trains does not make logistically too much sense due to increased costs.
All additives which the respective brands claim to improve their fuels are mixed either directly on the gas station or if the company has it's own trucks on the truck's tank.
They were acquired by Lukoil (Russian) and still maintain the Getty Brand throughout much of the Northeast.
Quoting Flyf15 (Reply 5): Ah, I suppose I kind of asked the wrong question. For gas stations, which ones can I be sure that if I'm pumping gas in my car, none of the oil had a chance of coming from the middle east? And, are there any where I can be sure the gas came from the US?
If you really want to avoid pumping money directly into the Mideast first of all you will probably want to invest in a bike but if you insist on buying gasoline you will want to avoid Shell. All the Shell stations and refineries were brought under the Equilon/Motiva umbrella in the US which is 50% owned by SaudiAramco (Saudi National Oil Company).
As people mentioned above the actual gasoline you are pumping in your car you really have no clue where the crude that produced it is actually coming from. Even if you are just buying from an Exxon station you have no idea if ExxonMobil produced the gasoline or if they bought it on an exchange agreement with another company. The only difference is they pump in different additives and detergents before it goes into the Exxon service station tank.
If you are really that concerned buy a bike or switch to a CNG or LNG car or even go Hydrogen like governor Schwarzenegger.
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