TACAA320 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (9 years 2 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 1312 times:
""If the Great Depression brought forth Hoovervilles, these trailer towns may someday be known as Bushvilles," Edwards told an audience at the Center for American Progress, a liberal think tank in Washington.
The former North Carolina senator criticized Bush for suspending the 1931 Davis-Bacon Act that sets wages for workers on federal contracts. Democrats contend the waiver will allow lower pay.
"When the only shot many people have is a good job rebuilding New Orleans, the president intervened to suspend prevailing wage laws so his contractor friends can cut wages for a hard day's work," Edwards said."
Wukka From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 1017 posts, RR: 16
Reply 12, posted (9 years 2 weeks ago) and read 1249 times:
"I have a plan!"
"Sir, what is your plan?"
"My plan will make things better. My plan is a great plan that will help the people with a well thought out planned plan!"
"My plan is the..."
The Dems had such a chance in the past election if Kerry's "plan" was a little more tangible to the public than "gridlock" and "lockbox" were in the past.
Idealism is necessary in modern government, but at least define your ideas a little bit. Shit. At least we KNOW what the hell the Repubs are talking about (to a greater degree), even if we don't agree with it, as opposed to these vague, incomprehensible ideas/ideals.
Yeah......to milk America's political tit with as much nonesense as an ass plug. (you know who I'm referencing)
Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 1): Blinding flash of the obvious from the ambulance chaser.
Waste of bandwidth . . . these two.
Geez, when I lived in North Carolina people, more specifically the tree huggers, would get so happy about Edwards. But, after a year or so as governor, even the supporters were tired of him. (kinda like Al Gore losing Tennessee....not much hope after that)
Quoting CaptOveur (Reply 10): But is anyone really listening? Nobody with a lick of sense is at this point.
Not really. Some people just use it as a springboard to throw their infamous political wisdom in about this administration but at the end of the day nobody gives a shit about these two.
That's like saying 'she's got a good personality.' When the night's over, she's still fat, dumb, and ugly.
Quoting Tbar220 (Reply 12): It amazing the kind of hate these two guys can stir up. Let's see what they've done to deserve it...... uhhh..... thinking..... hmmmm......
Let's see........try the countless votes that Kerry missed in the Senate to go parade around the country for the elections, but always found the time to run back and be present for the ones that mattered to him.
Edwards? ANCFlyer put it well.......an ambulance chaser. This guy knows how to lie and lie well.
Usnseallt82 From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 4891 posts, RR: 52
Reply 15, posted (9 years 2 weeks ago) and read 1243 times:
Quoting Wukka (Reply 13): Idealism is necessary in modern government, but at least define your ideas a little bit. Shit. At least we KNOW what the hell the Repubs are talking about (to a greater degree), even if we don't agree with it, as opposed to these vague, incomprehensible ideas/ideals.
One of the best comments I've heard in a long time.
Tbar220 From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 7013 posts, RR: 26
Reply 17, posted (9 years 2 weeks ago) and read 1231 times:
So Kerry didn't attend enough votes, but did he start a bungled war in Iraq? Did he lie to this country about WMD? Did he go on vacation (as you say I should say it)? Heck, for five weeks straight during the time of national crisis?
It simply amazes me that people hold Kerry to these standards when he's not even president. But don't dare hold Bush to the same standards.
Kerry was lazy, didn't go to work enough. Ok, well if you hate him for that, hate Bush for the same thing.
Edwards was a habitual liar (so claims Usnseal, need proof). If you hate him for that, hate Bush for the same thing.
Kerry and Edwards didn't have a plan. Uhhhhh, if you hate them for that, hate Bush for not telling us the details of his Social Security Plan. Or hate Bush for not releasing documents on Bolton or Roberts. Or hate Bush for not having a plan or timetable for Iraq. Or hate Bush for appointing a failure of a leader to FEMA who couldn't make a plan if his life depended on it. And on and on and on.... do you see what I'm getting at?
I want to see the same people who spew such crap about Kerry and Edwards...
Quoting NWA742 (Reply 5): Those two piles of shit are still talking?
Quoting TPASXM787 (Reply 7): Maybe the should make out while they're at it. They sure enjoyed hugging each other.
to stop having such double standards and being such hypocrites.
At least with you ANC, you have shown that you can criticize the president and his cronies (i.e. Donald Dumsfeld). But seriously, Kerry and Edwards RAN for president and lost. Bush IS president, and is doing the same stuff that they are criticizing Kerry and Edwards for apparently doing. And this is almost a year after the election.
ANCFlyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (9 years 1 week 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 1226 times:
Quoting Tbar220 (Reply 18): It simply amazes me that people hold Kerry to these standards when he's not even president.
I hold him to these standards my friend because he WANTED to be President. One doesn't elect a president on what they did (although that may keep them from being elected), rather what we think they are capable of doing!
And no, Kerry didn't attend enough votes, too busy snowboarding. And no he was the record missee at the Intelligence Committee. For him to discuss intelligence is, well, unintelligent, since he wasn't there.
Quoting Tbar220 (Reply 18): Edwards was a habitual liar (so claims Usnseal, need proof). If you hate him for that, hate Bush for the same thing.
I never said that . . . don't attribute it to me please. I don't "hate" Edwards. He's a pretty boy NC attorney that got a break . . .
That said, he's an ambulance chaser . . . . all are suspect until proven otherwise. . . they are trained in the art of double speak . . .
And still, after all this time, I have yet to see any plan . . . I always heard Kerry say "We have a plan", but I never saw it????
Quoting Tbar220 (Reply 18): At least with you ANC, you have shown that you can criticize the president and his cronies (i.e. Donald Dumsfeld).
Benefits of having a conscience and a mind . . . and being a registered Independent. And you forgot Condi Rice . . .
Tbar220 From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 7013 posts, RR: 26
Reply 19, posted (9 years 1 week 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 1224 times:
Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 19): I hold him to these standards my friend because he WANTED to be President.
Fine, that's acceptable. But why the continued vitriol and criticism from you and others, when he's not running for president? Why (and not you in this case) are others criticising him for the stuff I said above and not saying a word of criticism about Bush? Why the double standard?
NWA742 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (9 years 1 week 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 1217 times:
Quoting Tbar220 (Reply 20): But why the continued vitriol and criticism from you and others, when he's not running for president?
It doesn't matter if he's not running for president.
As long as he continues to go public with his hugging buddy Edwards and performs a little rant about the president -- then he will be both critisized and cheered by many.
Ever since they came into view, I've always felt that both of them were full of it.
And because of that, don't think that I don't critisize the president and his administration as well. I tend to be a mild-moderate conservative, and usually vote R, but there have been several things that President Bush has done, and hasn't done, that have pissed me off too.