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Bye, Bye, Marshall Field's  
User currently offlineSTLGph From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 9303 posts, RR: 25
Posted (8 years 10 months 1 week 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 1271 times:

Fans of Marshall Fields will see their store become Macy's effective next spring. Those Christmas windows on Michigan Avenue just won't be the same.


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User currently onlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39701 posts, RR: 75
Reply 1, posted (8 years 10 months 1 week 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 1261 times:

Quoting STLGph (Thread starter):
Fans of Marshall Fields will see their store become Macy's effective next spring. Those Christmas windows on Michigan Avenue just won't be the same.

 Sad  Sad  Sad

Darn, I should have taken photos of the place last month when I was there.
I remember Christmas shopping there back when I was a kid.



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User currently offlineBR715-A1-30 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (8 years 10 months 1 week 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 1261 times:

You're kidding. WOW!! Things will suddenly take a hike in price. Travelpro will soon be seen in Former Marshall Fields stores.

User currently onlineMexicana757 From United States of America, joined Apr 2001, 3031 posts, RR: 29
Reply 3, posted (8 years 10 months 1 week 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 1253 times:

Quoting STLGph (Thread starter):
Those Christmas windows on Michigan Avenue just won't be the same.

Did you mean State street? Thats were the flagship store is at, 111 N. State.


User currently offlineDL021 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 11446 posts, RR: 76
Reply 4, posted (8 years 10 months 1 week 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 1230 times:
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Federated Department stores, the brands' parent company has been on a nationwide tear to do this. In ATL they just killed the oldest and best known name brand department store (Rich's) and replaced it with Macys. Rich's Department Stores was purchased by Federated somewhere around 20 years ago, and they have maintained Rich's traditions of having a giant Christmas tree lighting each year (the big one every year) and hosting the 4th of July and New Years fireworks in their Lenox Square store, but even resurrected the Pink Pig train that used to be a monorail on the roof of the downtown Rich's.

This decision is one made by some marketing guru from a central location who obviously doesn't understand the value of local brands and customer loyalty.



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User currently offlineAeroWesty From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 20394 posts, RR: 62
Reply 5, posted (8 years 10 months 1 week 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 1227 times:

The bastards. We're losing The Bon Marché out here, too.


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User currently offlineSyncmaster From United States of America, joined Jul 2002, 2020 posts, RR: 10
Reply 6, posted (8 years 10 months 1 week 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 1213 times:
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They are closing all of their stores in my area  Sad

User currently offlineLTBEWR From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 13040 posts, RR: 12
Reply 7, posted (8 years 10 months 1 week 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 1204 times:

The days of the classic local or regional, middle class department stores are gone. Customers moving on price for everyday things at K-mart, Walmart, Target (originally developed by the Dayton-Hudson dep't Stores group, now Marshall Field and soon to be Macy's), moves up by JC Penny's and Sears, the fast growing Kohl's stores, all have decimated the customer base at the low to middle end. The rich, well they have plenty of choices. Then add the smaller speciality stores in regional full service malls and strip malls, and the department store is becoming a dinosour. The one thing that to me led to their ruin, was the end of so called fair trade laws in the 1970's that allowed manufactures and distributors to tell retailers how much they had to sell their product for. (much like airline fares were regulated until the late 1970's)
I do despise the takeover of what seems to be 80% of the mainline department store market by one company - Macy's. In a few more years, I bet a lot of them will be closed down, especially in fringe market areas or where have high desity of stores and as people tire of their poor quality of service.


User currently offlineSTLGph From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 9303 posts, RR: 25
Reply 8, posted (8 years 10 months 1 week 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 1181 times:

Quoting Mexicana757 (Reply 3):
Quoting STLGph (Thread starter):
Those Christmas windows on Michigan Avenue just won't be the same.

Did you mean State street? Thats were the flagship store is at, 111 N. State.

You know, that is what I meant. I apologize. Brain fart.

Quoting DL021 (Reply 4):
This decision is one made by some marketing guru from a central location who obviously doesn't understand the value of local brands and customer loyalty.

Any chain owned by Federated will become a Bloomingdale's or Macy's within the next two years.

Quoting LTBEWR (Reply 7):
I do despise the takeover of what seems to be 80% of the mainline department store market by one company - Macy's.

Agreed. I wish the Department of Justice would have never approved the Federated - May merger. And I wish May shareholders would have seen otherwise, but of course, they just wanted to sell their shares for the top dollar and be done with it.



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User currently offlineEA CO AS From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 13517 posts, RR: 62
Reply 9, posted (8 years 10 months 1 week 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 1126 times:
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Quoting STLGph (Reply 8):
Any chain owned by Federated will become a Bloomingdale's or Macy's within the next two years.

Is that necessarily a bad thing though if it means they'll be more competitive and able to survive in the Wal-Mart era? Frankly, I love the upscale Bloomingdale's/Macy's/Bon-Marche/Robinsons-May/Burdine's style stores and if the parent company needs to consolidate under one banner to cut costs and streamline to stay ahead of the competition, then so be it.



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User currently offlineLuv2fly From United States of America, joined May 2003, 12090 posts, RR: 49
Reply 10, posted (8 years 10 months 1 week 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 1105 times:

Well there is always Dillard's 300 plus strong and still family owned.


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User currently onlineMexicana757 From United States of America, joined Apr 2001, 3031 posts, RR: 29
Reply 11, posted (8 years 10 months 1 week 6 days ago) and read 1095 times:

Quoting STLGph (Reply 8):
You know, that is what I meant. I apologize. Brain fart.

Its ok, dont need to apologize.  praise 

I think Marshall Fields was better off when they were owned by Target.


User currently offlineEA CO AS From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 13517 posts, RR: 62
Reply 12, posted (8 years 10 months 1 week 6 days ago) and read 1093 times:
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Quoting Luv2fly (Reply 10):
Well there is always Dillard's 300 plus strong and still family owned.

And that's my favorite department store of all, actually!  bigthumbsup 



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User currently offlineSeb146 From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 11533 posts, RR: 15
Reply 13, posted (8 years 10 months 1 week 6 days ago) and read 1090 times:

No, no, no, no....... you don't get it. I *LOVE* Meier & Frank. I go there every chance I get. I have so many clothes from Meier & Frank. But, I was at Bon-Macy's in Seattle last winter and found there prices to be on par with Meier & Frank. It all depends on what racks you shop on. I get great quality and great looking clothes right off the clearance racks. Wal-Mart prices with Macy's quality. Yeah, I can dig it! I am a shopping fiend. I can't wait till Khols opens up in Portland. I went to the one at Ontario Mills where I-10 and I-15 intersect and it seemed like a good store. I bought a few shirts there last year.

On a side note about Khols: When I was at that Ontario one, I went to pay. The woman that rang me up was blonde. I mean blonde as anything. As per Khols policy, she asked for my ZIP code. So, I told her: 97210. I was living in downtown Portland at the time. So, she punched in 9, then hesitated with the 7, then she asked me again. Again I told her 97210. She hit the backspace key and hit the 9, hesitated on the 7 then said: You don't live around here, do you? She was also shocked that there are no Khols anywhere in the Northwest. She seemed to have a bit of simpathy in her voice and that I was an alien to this planet. Crazy.

Anyway, Federated will be changing the name Meier & Frank to Macy's after Christmas. I wish they would do it before. I am tired of the same window display year after year at M&F. They have been doing 12 Days Of Christmas for at least the last 5 years. *yawn*

GO CANUCKS!!



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User currently offlineDtwclipper From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (8 years 10 months 1 week 6 days ago) and read 1085 times:

Sorry, but I never got used to calling Hudson's Marshall Field's....and now I have to go with Macy's.


NEVER........I want my Hudson's back!


User currently offlineSTLGph From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 9303 posts, RR: 25
Reply 15, posted (8 years 10 months 1 week 6 days ago) and read 1079 times:

Quoting EA CO AS (Reply 9):
Is that necessarily a bad thing though if it means they'll be more competitive and able to survive in the Wal-Mart era?

Sorry, but can not compare Wal Mart to Macy's.

Quoting EA CO AS (Reply 9):
Frankly, I love the upscale Bloomingdale's/Macy's/Bon-Marche/Robinsons-May/Burdine's style stores and if the parent company needs to consolidate under one banner to cut costs and streamline to stay ahead of the competition, then so be it.

They're hardly streamlined to cut costs. Macy's doesn't operate under just one central operation. Macy's has regional operating divisions.

Quoting EA CO AS (Reply 12):
And that's my favorite department store of all, actually!

Dillard's? ewwwww

Quoting Mexicana757 (Reply 11):
I think Marshall Fields was better off when they were owned by Target.

I wholly agree on that.



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User currently offlineVSLover From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 1897 posts, RR: 23
Reply 16, posted (8 years 10 months 1 week 6 days ago) and read 1064 times:

yawn...let me know when prada buys federated and takes over the world.

though honestly, i am pleased they are converting all foley's department stores to macy's out here in colorado. finally i can at least get some of the brands and associated items i was accustomed to being able to get at macy's.

[Edited 2005-09-20 22:30:39]

User currently offlineEA CO AS From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 13517 posts, RR: 62
Reply 17, posted (8 years 10 months 1 week 6 days ago) and read 1055 times:
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Quoting STLGph (Reply 15):
Quoting EA CO AS (Reply 9):
Frankly, I love the upscale Bloomingdale's/Macy's/Bon-Marche/Robinsons-May/Burdine's style stores and if the parent company needs to consolidate under one banner to cut costs and streamline to stay ahead of the competition, then so be it.

They're hardly streamlined to cut costs. Macy's doesn't operate under just one central operation. Macy's has regional operating divisions.

Can you argue with the fact that operating under one name as one entity costs less than operating several different sub-brands?

Didn't think so.



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User currently offlineSrbmod From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (8 years 10 months 1 week 6 days ago) and read 1040 times:

We lost the Rich's name fully earlier this year. They closed most of the Macy's locations (In the mid 1980s, Macy dropped the Davison's name and replaced it with Macy's [Macy's had bought Davison-Paxton back in 1924. Davison's was the competitor in Atlanta to Rich's]) in Atlanta (including the landmark downtown Atlanta store) and hypenated the Rich's name to Rich's-Macy's.

Federated has decided to use two nameplates for their stores, Macy's and Bloomingdale's, and to hell with local history. I'm sorry, but the Macy's Great Tree will just never sound right, it was the Rich's Great Tree for nearly my entire life.


User currently offlineSTLGph From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 9303 posts, RR: 25
Reply 19, posted (8 years 10 months 1 week 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 1020 times:

Quoting EA CO AS (Reply 17):
Can you argue with the fact that operating under one name as one entity costs less than operating several different sub-brands?

Didn't think so.

May didn't operate them as sub brands. Operations were all the same, they just kept the individual regional names.



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User currently offlineQuestAir From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 367 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (8 years 10 months 1 week 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 1003 times:

I went to the flagship State St store last April.... terrific place, but the sad thing... the place was deserted.


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User currently offlineDeltaFFinDFW From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 1438 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (8 years 10 months 1 week 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 997 times:

Despite the fact that Federated is "technically" Cincinnati-based, we have also lost our share of old hometown department stores.

Shillito's -> Shillito-Rikes -> Lazarus -> Lazarus-Macy's -> Macy's
McAlpin's -> Dillards
Pogue's -> L.S. Ayres -> all area stores closed down
Mabley & Carew -> Elder Beerman -> all area stores closed down.

Very sad!!


User currently offlineSTLGph From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 9303 posts, RR: 25
Reply 22, posted (8 years 10 months 1 week 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 994 times:

As per usual, with the demise of TWA, the people here in St. Louis just think it's ho hum....that is until after they realize it's gone and are scratching their heads why they suddenly no longer get such a good deal.

This is one of my major gripes with this town.



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User currently offlineEA CO AS From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 13517 posts, RR: 62
Reply 23, posted (8 years 10 months 1 week 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 984 times:
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Quoting STLGph (Reply 19):
Quoting EA CO AS (Reply 17):
Can you argue with the fact that operating under one name as one entity costs less than operating several different sub-brands?

Didn't think so.

May didn't operate them as sub brands. Operations were all the same, they just kept the individual regional names.

Yes they did.

For example, after the purchase of The Bon Marche it was still run as The Bon, a wholly owned but separate entity. Over time it was EVENTUALLY called Bon-Macy's - still a sub-brand. Now the change will eliminate The Bon entirely.



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User currently offlineSTLGph From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 9303 posts, RR: 25
Reply 24, posted (8 years 10 months 1 week 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 972 times:

Quoting EA CO AS (Reply 23):
Yes they did.

For example, after the purchase of The Bon Marche it was still run as The Bon, a wholly owned but separate entity. Over time it was EVENTUALLY called Bon-Macy's - still a sub-brand. Now the change will eliminate The Bon entirely.

Huh?

May Company operated its stores with a central corporate management, advertising, sales, marketing, human resources, accounting, and merchandising division. The only thing that was different was the name of the stores depending upon the region. Each one of the "stores" had its own buying offices that was responsible for product replenishment.

Federated did the same. When they bought Lazarus, all the operations and merchandising, a la the same as May did it was done centrally with Federated. Difference with Federated is that they decided to label all of their stores differently, by first introducing the Macy's name as a part of the name to begin customer recognition, and then eventually dropping the pre title and then just going with Macy's.



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25 QuestAir : I used to live north of Chicago, and I used to go to the Marketplace at the Marshall Field's in Vernon Hills (approx. 1 hour north of Chicago) for din
26 Post contains images AR1300 : I used to shop there a lot, back in the good ol' days in Chicago... Mike
27 Searpqx : Yep - as far as I know Macy's now owns the license and the receipe, receiving it when they purchased Marshall Field's. Actually Frango's are tied to
28 EA CO AS : Which part didn't you understand? So if each regional store - with independent names - handled their purchasing differently, explain to me how that's
29 Luv2fly : I agree with you! We have one of the regional store brands here in Ohio, and a charge card from one of the other store brands that is not in the area
30 Post contains images Mt99 : Well, people here in chicago are so incredidbly pissed at this. Chicagoans are very very very protective of their city (rightly so i think ) and whate
31 STLGph : The part where you're trying to talk about something you clearly don't understand. It's not a sub brand, plain and simple. At May, the merchandising
32 Post contains images Mexicana757 : Sad to see a company I worked for go under someone elses name. Supposely Macy's is going to bring back the production of Frangos back to the State Str
33 Post contains images AsstChiefMark : Damn! I loved his wife's cookies, too!
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