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'Our' Christian "Values" - Not!  
User currently offlineTedTAce From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (9 years 2 months 4 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 1844 times:

http://www.breitbart.com/news/2005/09/23/D8CPU38G8.html
" ONTARIO, Calif.

A 14-year-old student was expelled from a Christian school because her parents are lesbians, the school's superintendent said in a letter. "

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Shouldn't they be focusing on more Christian values like fundraising for Hurricane victims? And people have the temerity to wonder why I hold a grudge against organized religion  Yeah sure

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User currently offlineNUair From Malaysia, joined Jun 2000, 1181 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (9 years 2 months 4 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 1821 times:

What? No pictures of the parents? We need a visual reference on this one.


"Your family does not meet the policies of admission," Superintendent Leonard Stob wrote to Tina Clark, the girl's biological mother.

Doesn't everyone at least have a gay uncle Rick? I guess Cheney's daughter wouldn't have been able to attend such a prestigious institution.



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User currently offlineLutenist From Canada, joined May 2005, 280 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (9 years 2 months 4 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 1815 times:

These religious yahoos are the same everywhere. The concept of live and let live is totally foreign to them. And I think they can only concentrate on one issue at a time. For example, this past year you'd think that in Canada the only important political/social/cultural issue for the religious right is preventing same-sex marriage.

User currently offlineAn-225 From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 3950 posts, RR: 40
Reply 3, posted (9 years 2 months 4 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 1813 times:

In my opinion, the kid is better off. Maybe he won't grow into one of those homophobic bigots this country is full of...


Alex.



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User currently offlineTWFirst From Vatican City, joined Apr 2000, 6346 posts, RR: 51
Reply 4, posted (9 years 2 months 4 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 1784 times:

I don't understand why they would enroll their kid in such a place anyway...


An unexamined life isn't worth living.
User currently offlineANCFlyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (9 years 2 months 4 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 1773 times:

Quoting An-225 (Reply 3):
In my opinion, the kid is better off. Maybe he won't grow into one of those homophobic bigots this country is full of...

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Quoting TedTAce (Thread starter):
And people have the temerity to wonder why I hold a grudge against organized religion

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User currently offlineTheCoz From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (9 years 2 months 4 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 1764 times:

Quoting TedTAce (Thread starter):
A 14-year-old student was expelled from a Christian school because her parents are lesbians, the school's superintendent said in a letter. "

Maybe the people who run the school should realize that they are sinners just the same, and shut the whole school down. Hypocrites...


User currently offlineBaylorAirBear From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 2913 posts, RR: 49
Reply 7, posted (9 years 2 months 4 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 1754 times:

Quoting NUair (Reply 1):
Doesn't everyone at least have a gay uncle Rick?

Nope, not me.

BAB



I'm just skipping stones...
User currently offlineDiamond From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 3279 posts, RR: 63
Reply 8, posted (9 years 2 months 4 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 1744 times:

Quoting NUair (Reply 1):
Doesn't everyone at least have a gay uncle Rick?

It's RICHARD, you cad.  Smile  Smile



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User currently offlineMaverickM11 From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 17823 posts, RR: 46
Reply 9, posted (9 years 2 months 4 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 1730 times:

Quoting NUair (Reply 1):
What? No pictures of the parents? We need a visual reference on this one.

Given the vast majority of lesbians I've seen, they're nothing like you'd imagine, or rather, fantasize.



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User currently offlineB757300 From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 4114 posts, RR: 22
Reply 10, posted (9 years 2 months 4 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 1711 times:

It is a private school and they can allow or prohibit anyone they wish. The same holds true for all private school whether religious based or not.


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User currently offlineScorpio From Belgium, joined Oct 2001, 5052 posts, RR: 44
Reply 11, posted (9 years 2 months 4 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 1691 times:

Quoting B757300 (Reply 10):
It is a private school and they can allow or prohibit anyone they wish. The same holds true for all private school whether religious based or not.

Doesn't change a thing about them being assholes for doing it..


User currently offlineOzarkD9S From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 5225 posts, RR: 21
Reply 12, posted (9 years 2 months 4 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 1690 times:

Quoting B757300 (Reply 10):


It is a private school and they can allow or prohibit anyone they wish. The same holds true for all private school whether religious based or not.

So true, if you're not receiving public funds you have the right to be as big an asshole as you wish.



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User currently offlineTheCoz From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (9 years 2 months 4 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 1690 times:

Quoting B757300 (Reply 10):
It is a private school and they can allow or prohibit anyone they wish. The same holds true for all private school whether religious based or not.

Yes, but does that make it right? They're still bigots.


User currently offline1MillionFlyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (9 years 2 months 4 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 1677 times:

Quoting BaylorAirBear (Reply 7):
Nope, not me.

That you know of  Smile


User currently offlineBaylorAirBear From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 2913 posts, RR: 49
Reply 15, posted (9 years 2 months 4 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 1660 times:

Quoting 1MillionFlyer (Reply 14):
That you know of

 crossfingers 

BAB



I'm just skipping stones...
User currently offlineAeroWesty From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 20822 posts, RR: 62
Reply 16, posted (9 years 2 months 4 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 1651 times:

Quoting OzarkD9S (Reply 12):
So true, if you're not receiving public funds you have the right to be as big an asshole as you wish.

It's a school sponsored by a tax-exempt religious order, so in a way it is receiving public funds.  Wink



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User currently offlineTedTAce From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (9 years 2 months 4 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 1641 times:

Quoting B757300 (Reply 10):
It is a private school and they can allow or prohibit anyone they wish. The same holds true for all private school whether religious based or not.

Yeap, and we can choose to ignore and not to contribute to such bigoted organizations. Too bad you won't identify your business because I would love to boycott it.


User currently offlineMatt D From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 9502 posts, RR: 47
Reply 18, posted (9 years 2 months 4 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 1627 times:

AN ULTIMATUM TO THE CHRISTIANS

We abhor you

Your values are outdated and unfair

You represent everything we are against

If you don't let us join you, we're going to sue you

Signed,
The Atheists


User currently offline777236ER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (9 years 2 months 4 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 1608 times:

So let's keep a tally of the people who support what the school did:

B757300
Matt D


User currently offlineTedTAce From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (9 years 2 months 4 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 1607 times:

Quoting Matt D (Reply 18):
Signed,
The Atheists

Matt,

Next time you are going to do a 'signed by' at least make an HONEST effort to make it come CLOSE to funny.


User currently offlineTriStarEnvy From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 2265 posts, RR: 3
Reply 21, posted (9 years 2 months 4 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 1587 times:

Personally, I guess I'm a "Middle Of The Road" Christian then, as I wouldn't have a huge problem with the parents. If they are providing a loving, safe environment, then good for them, and let the child stay. What goes on in their bedroom is none of my business. Live and Let Live.

Okay, I don't agree with the life style, but I have a real hard time with some of the ideas that these so-called Christians try to push off on us. I believe in the 'love your neighbor" version of religion, as opposed to the "They're different?!? Going to Hell!!!" crap that I hear coming out of our alleged moral leaders.



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User currently offlineB744F From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (9 years 2 months 4 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 1575 times:

Quoting B757300 (Reply 10):
It is a private school and they can allow or prohibit anyone they wish. The same holds true for all private school whether religious based or not.



Quoting OzarkD9S (Reply 12):
So true, if you're not receiving public funds you have the right to be as big an asshole as you wish.

Wrong and wrong


User currently offlineMatt D From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 9502 posts, RR: 47
Reply 23, posted (9 years 2 months 4 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 1574 times:

Ok..try this on for size:

ULTIMATUM TO THE CHRISTIANS

If we disagree with you, we are practicing our First Ammendment rights to free thought and expression.

If you disagree with us, you are practicing mean spirited hatred.

Signed,
The Atheists


User currently offlineIAD2BTR From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 29 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (9 years 2 months 4 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 1570 times:

I have always wondered why some 'Christians' are more concerned with what other people do with their genitalia that with more spiritual pursuits.


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25 Post contains images Scorpio : Nope, still no-one laughing. This child was banned for something it had nothing to do with, something it could change nothing about. That's pure disc
26 Matt D : Be that as it may, they are being no more and no less an asshole than some other school denying a white applicant who otherwise meets all criteria so
27 TedTAce : You know Matt, if you would have had a better GPA, this wouldn't have happened to you and you probably wouldn't be quite so bitter.
28 MD11junkie : Ditto. Any country is full of that. Nobody is to decide whether someone is morally right or wrong. I believe in God, but not in religion. Religion is
29 JpetekYXMD80 : Thank you. You shall join AA777jr on the list of A.net legal beagles. The real question is about what is JUST. Not that I expect anything further to
30 Matt D : Nobody is to decide whether someone is morally right or wrong. It's that mentality and attitude that is arguably the biggest problem in the world toda
31 N229NW : So sad. I see a trend here for which it is difficult to predict the outcome. The twentieth century was largely an age of secularization and science, a
32 Aa757first : I agree with this, but I personally would not expel the girl because of this. There was a similar debate going on a few months ago when a pregnant gi
33 MD11junkie : Really? There's something written there. Btw, to quote myself: So your point has nothing to do with my quote. You cannot tell me if I'm morally wrong
34 JpetekYXMD80 : Whatever. There is, however, one choice that overshadows this: life. Think about it.
35 AA777 : I am christian, and I think that is ridiculous for a school to punish a child for the parents' "lifestyle" ..... The child is there for an EDUCATION.
36 JpetekYXMD80 : No, you're not. Signed, Matt D
37 Aerorobnz : That pretty much sums it up. Christianity and the rest of the organised religions are just token gestures, a nice big bow to sum up a complicated wor
38 Sidewinder : First of all Christian values should come from scripture (The Christian Bible) So my question to you is What do you know about scripture???? If you h
39 Post contains images Searpqx : As long as the person asking isn't gay of course, then it's ok to discriminate in any way you like, cuz the bible says so.
40 Post contains links MD-90 : The Superindentent's statement: http://www.ocschools.org/letterfromsuperintendent.pdf The school's website: http://www.ocschools.org/ Please note that
41 N229NW : As has been said multiple times, the bible also allows polygamy, slavery (as long as the slaves come from neighboring countries) and also suggests th
42 DrDeke : I can't wait until the evil, evil "moral relativism" is destroyed and replaced with this. I think it'd be great to have people dictate the way I live
43 B744F : jesus said to not pay attention to all the violent teachings of the old testament, they were used to keep together and weed out the weak to allow the
44 Post contains images BaylorAirBear : Because nothing, and I mean nothing, is worse than having someone's gay back sweat on you! I could've sworn he said the same thing about UFO's. BAB
45 B744F : No but the bible does say strange objects in the sky is a sign of the coming apocalypse
46 BaylorAirBear : But balls flying at your face don't count. BAB
47 ZKSUJ : Sure its against values and stuff, but what did the 14 year old girl do? it's not exactly her fault
48 Post contains images TedTAce : Simple. Nothing. What I do know is that Religion is supposed to be about compassion and understanding. Anything else is a CULT. pot-kettle-black. Why
49 Sidewinder : No...The Christian religion is about Love! Feel free to read the book. You will have even more "ammo" for the Christians. Uhhhh...I think you have Go
50 Post contains links Dtwclipper : Take a look at their teacher application form, number 4 is the best! http://www.ocschools.org/jobs/TeacherEmpApp.pdf ONTARIO CHRISTIAN SCHOOL Growing
51 Cfalk : Please don't paint them all with the same brush. It is ironic that secularists, who keep campaigning for tolerance and diversity, are so intolerant a
52 Post contains images MattCLE : Somewhere Jesus is crying -Matt
53 Boeing7E7 : If you're holdign a grude because a Christian School bans people of a certain orientation, then you need to get over it. Lats time I checked, it wasn
54 TheCoz : I'm not talking about government policies, I'm talking about Christian obligations. True Christianity is about love and acceptance; not about condtio
55 TedTAce : No, I'm holding them (all organized religions_ responsible for the crusades, the inquisition, and all the OTHER deaths they have caused. And let's no
56 Boeing7E7 : And there is your problem. You should find something better to do with your free time. People like you started this war of words and lawsuits by gett
57 Boeing7E7 : Christianity has it's boundaries as well. Just because you have this idea in your head that you should be able to subject a religion to your own beli
58 B744F : You obviously know the Bible as well as you know the American political system. I suggest you stay out of both debates
59 TheCoz : I grew up going to church. While I met many nice Christians, they were out numbered by bigots. Based on how some people choose to interpret the Bible
60 Sidewinder : This is where a lot of the problem arises. Many none Christians believe that we Christians think we are better then everyone else because they sin. W
61 TheCoz : No Christian has the right to penalize these people. It's not up to them. The two lesbian parents we're talking about here do consider the knowledge
62 Post contains links TedTAce : chirp chirp Sorry thumpers.. you can pound the book that a few antiquated morons wrote all you want. The reality is it's JUST a book. Just like this
63 Sidewinder : Sorry you feel that way Ted. Just because Christianity doesn't fit what you believe it should be doesn't make it false. I find it hard to believe God
64 Post contains images TedTAce : Considering how many examples of how failure prone 'men' are you honestly think he'd trust MAN to write it???? Don't get me wrong, I think it's possi
65 Post contains links TedTAce : I don't think so: http://www.asmilan.org/eschool/middle_ages/crusade/the7crusades.html You guys could have left Jerusalem alone and they would have f
66 Cfalk : YOU made a claim, YOU back it up.
67 Post contains images TedTAce : You want the Autistic dodger to come up with a LINK?
68 Sidewinder : Clearly, you are an intelligent person Ted. I think you anaylize things way too much. Don't focus on man. People will let you down every time and Chr
69 Boeing7E7 : Then you didn't pay attention. You mean, how you care to interpret it. Again, you didn't pay attention. If you went to a weak fly by night church the
70 TheCoz : That's presumptuous. You need to come up with a better argument than that. Considering I did in fact pay attention, your argument holds no ground. Ev
71 Cfalk : You should recognize that there are a large variety of "Christian" churches. I've seen services where the congregation were told that only members of
72 Boeing7E7 : And a true Christian belief falls in between the two.
73 Airbuff : That is so true. I have never understood that. But I agree its a blessing the child was not accepted, there will be one less bigoted person on this p
74 Lutenist : I wasn't painting all religious people, just the yahoos among them. No, Cfalk. What's really ironic here is that right after you implore me not to pa
75 IAD2BTR : Usually it's not religion that is a problem. The problem is what people do in religions name or their interpretations of what religion teaches. Religi
76 TedTAce : No, hell is a place for the ignorant and abusive. I don't MOCK God, I mock those who PRETEND to act on his behalf You think that just because I spend
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