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Worst City In The World To Drive  
User currently offlineVio From Canada, joined Feb 2004, 1366 posts, RR: 8
Posted (8 years 7 months 20 hours ago) and read 7108 times:

Hey,

I'm wondering what are the three worst cities in the world, that YOU have driven in (in terms of horrible drivers/traffic).

Mine:


1. Bucharest, Romania
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b323/klaus-dieter/TrafficBucuresti.jpg



2. Toronto, Canada




3. Detroit, USA


[Edited 2005-09-23 22:26:48]


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User currently offlineAR1300 From Argentina, joined Feb 2005, 1740 posts, RR: 3
Reply 1, posted (8 years 7 months 19 hours ago) and read 7098 times:

Heck here.Much worse than anything that I have seen.

Mike

P.S:Buenos Aires....  Smile



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User currently offlineTedTAce From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (8 years 7 months 19 hours ago) and read 7082 times:

Try Miami, Fl. during rush hour, talk about a Cluster.....

User currently offlineArmitageShanks From UK - England, joined Dec 2003, 3553 posts, RR: 15
Reply 3, posted (8 years 7 months 19 hours ago) and read 7074 times:

Knoxville, Tennessee.

User currently offlineSenorcarnival From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (8 years 7 months 19 hours ago) and read 7071 times:

State your reasons, too. In no particular order:
Houston, TX. Every lane is the fast lane and fast means at least 10 mph over the speed limit.
Sao Paulo, Brazil. The word "rush hour" has lost its meaning. Every hour is rush hour and the city is an eternal traffic jam.
Why is Bucharest so bad?


User currently offlineVio From Canada, joined Feb 2004, 1366 posts, RR: 8
Reply 5, posted (8 years 7 months 19 hours ago) and read 7067 times:

Senorcanival,

The streets are narrow, too many cars for "post-communist" era. City planners were not expecting so many people would own a car. There's no respect or public curtesy. People will literally push you out of the way if you go too slow.  Smile



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User currently offlineLuisde8cd From Pitcairn Islands, joined Aug 2004, 2537 posts, RR: 31
Reply 6, posted (8 years 7 months 19 hours ago) and read 7064 times:

Caracas, Venezuela  Smile

User currently offlineErikwilliam From Brazil, joined Mar 2004, 2152 posts, RR: 12
Reply 7, posted (8 years 7 months 19 hours ago) and read 7058 times:

Quoting Senorcarnival (Reply 4):
Sao Paulo, Brazil. The word "rush hour" has lost its meaning. Every hour is rush hour and the city is an eternal traffic jam.
Why is Bucharest so bad?

Average congested streets in Sao Paulo:

Morning
7am-9isham
Average:75km.
Yesterday:95km
Peak:132km

Evening
12pm-4pm
Average:45km.
Yesterday: 60km
Peak:100km

Night
5pm-9pm
Average:120km
Yesterday:150km
Peak:220km (that on a heavy rainy day, all city was congested)

Today, 23/09/2005@5h30pm 124km

Great deal I work 5min from home hã!?



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User currently offlineArniePie From Belgium, joined Aug 2005, 1265 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (8 years 7 months 19 hours ago) and read 7041 times:

Try Beijing and other Chinese growing metropoles

Until 10 years ago practically nobody had a car and traffic was mostly by foot or bicycle, these days they are building ringroad after ringroad around the greater Beijing area and the whole system is infested by crappy cars with even worse drivers.
They have practically no idea what traffic rules are and the ones they know they usually don't follow.
Crossing a busy intersection is an adventure and one of the most dangerous job's in the country is traffic cop in the big cities.
4 years ago when I was working there (Hairun suburb) on a project for one of our big customers we decided to go and sit in a local hotel iso a bigger (western more luxurious) hotel in the center of the city, the main reason we decided to do this was because every day we witnessed some horrendous accidents and to shorten the trip and as such make it more safe we decided to stay in the smaller hotel.
Everything worked out fine the first 2 weeks but at that point our luck ran out when we (in a small Suzuki/isuzu taxi van) where involved in crash with a truck, the results where terrible; our (only 23 year old) electrician died as did the driver from our taxi, My colleague spend 6 months in rehab and I was in hospital for 11 months in total and had to learn to walk again (with a 3 yr rehab).
My company's insurance company showed us the unofficial traffic statistics (accidents, deaths, seriously injured, etc..) and I must say it reads as a horror novel.

In my former career as a service technician I can safely say that I saw most parts of the world and even without the accident I have to state that China takes the cake in the dangerous traffic section (although my colleague told me also some horrific story's about India and Thailand).



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User currently offlineAlberchico From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 2825 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (8 years 7 months 19 hours ago) and read 7031 times:

1) Mexico City

2) New York during rush hour (trust me I know)

3) Los Angeles



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User currently offlineSwissgabe From Switzerland, joined Jan 2000, 5266 posts, RR: 33
Reply 10, posted (8 years 7 months 19 hours ago) and read 7018 times:

Bangkok is bad and so is Tokyo. Traffic in Dhaka can also be bad.


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User currently offlineSpringbok747 From Australia, joined Nov 2004, 4387 posts, RR: 11
Reply 11, posted (8 years 7 months 19 hours ago) and read 7013 times:

1. Mumbai

2. Sydney (during rush hour).

3. All other Indian cities.



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User currently offlineBR076 From Netherlands, joined May 2005, 1080 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (8 years 7 months 19 hours ago) and read 7011 times:

Bangkok is pretty bad too, never experienced such a chaos before  Smile




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User currently offlineRobertNL070 From Netherlands, joined Sep 2003, 4529 posts, RR: 10
Reply 13, posted (8 years 7 months 19 hours ago) and read 7003 times:

Jakarta, Indonesia

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User currently offlineSabena332 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (8 years 7 months 19 hours ago) and read 7000 times:

The worst I experienced:

  • Rome (as passenger)

  • Bangkok (as passenger)

  • Los Angeles (as driver)

  • New York (as driver)


  • Patrick


    User currently offlineArniePie From Belgium, joined Aug 2005, 1265 posts, RR: 1
    Reply 15, posted (8 years 7 months 19 hours ago) and read 6999 times:

    Quoting BR076 (Reply 12):
    Bangkok is pretty bad too, never experienced such a chaos before

    I know when I was there about 6 yrs ago they had these mobile toilets driving thru traffic to "relieve" the poor bastards that got stuck in a traffic jam (usually until somewhere past midnight).



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    User currently offlineJAGflyer From Canada, joined Aug 2004, 3460 posts, RR: 4
    Reply 16, posted (8 years 7 months 19 hours ago) and read 7002 times:

    From what I have seen:

    Los Angeles: Some highways (or "freeways") have 8 lanes in each direction.

    Toronto: Morning/Rush-Hour on the Don Valley Parkway is terrible. The traffic is horrendous. No wonder they call it the Don Valley Parking Lot

    Montreal: Most of the roads are in need of serious repair with potholes and cracks everywhere. You need to be a very agressive driver since a lot of people drive very recklessly.



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    User currently offlineArniePie From Belgium, joined Aug 2005, 1265 posts, RR: 1
    Reply 17, posted (8 years 7 months 18 hours ago) and read 6992 times:

    Quoting Sabena332 (Reply 14):
    Los Angeles (as driver)

    New York (as driver)

    Yes indeed a lot of traffic but the system can manage most of the time.
    For the US I always hated the traffic around and certainly inside the DC area.



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    User currently offlineAvianca From Venezuela, joined Jan 2005, 5900 posts, RR: 40
    Reply 18, posted (8 years 7 months 18 hours ago) and read 6979 times:

    as I heard, the indian citys are a nightmare ....

    regards



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    User currently offlineTexan From New Zealand, joined Dec 2003, 4264 posts, RR: 52
    Reply 19, posted (8 years 7 months 18 hours ago) and read 6972 times:

    In no particular order:

    Los Angeles - hit it at the wrong time (during daylight or darkness) and you can't get anywhere

    Houston - 10 is under construction and only 3 lanes in each direction leading from Katy to 610. 610 does not move. Ever. Neither does 45 north of downtown.

    New York - too many cars, too little room

    Boston - try getting out to the Cape on Friday or Saturday or through downtown anytime

    Texan



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    User currently offlineAlessandro From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
    Reply 20, posted (8 years 7 months 18 hours ago) and read 6957 times:

    Any mega-city without proper public transportation, my vote goes to Bagdad...

    User currently offlineIberiaA319 From Spain, joined Sep 2005, 573 posts, RR: 39
    Reply 21, posted (8 years 7 months 18 hours ago) and read 6940 times:

    From what I've seen:

    Cairo: No traffic lights are working in this huge city, and if they work, drivers don't care. Lack of enforcement of traffic rules, everyone drives like crazy...and you know what, I haven't seen a single accident!


    User currently offlineAirxLiban From Lebanon, joined Oct 2003, 4504 posts, RR: 54
    Reply 22, posted (8 years 7 months 18 hours ago) and read 6934 times:

    Los Angeles has been my home for the last 7 years and I can say that there is just about nothing in this world that drives me crazy as having to sit through LA traffic.

    Now that said...Los Angeles traffic really isn't THAT bad. At least there are lanes and people generally stay in them. It is not difficult to drive in traffic, nor is it particularly nervewracking, it is just boring and tiresome. What makes it particularly difficult is the long distances involved.

    I have also driven in a number of other cities like Beirut for instance, where driving laws don't exist, but there is a different way of driving in Lebanon and while you do have traffic jams, you're never in them for three hours.

    Aleppo, Syria is reputed to be pretty bad, but in my experience the Syrians in Damascus at least stop at traffic lights, which is more than can be said for the Lebanese at times.

    I haven't driven in Cairo but that looked like an absolute disaster!



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    User currently onlineAlias1024 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 2715 posts, RR: 2
    Reply 23, posted (8 years 7 months 18 hours ago) and read 6908 times:

    Quoting Texan (Reply 19):
    Houston - 10 is under construction and only 3 lanes in each direction leading from Katy to 610. 610 does not move. Ever. Neither does 45 north of downtown

    I'd agree that 610 is a disaster. The road signs piss me off too. The signs in Houston are usually either incorrect or not there at all. I especially love the merge between I-10 East and Beltway 8 on the East side of town. They merged a lane from I-10 with a lane entering from Beltway 8 and didn't even put up a sign to warn you . Suddenly another car appears right next to you, and you have to slam on the brakes to avoid an accident.

    Oh, London has some really nasty traffic too.



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    User currently offlineStarAC17 From Canada, joined Aug 2003, 3334 posts, RR: 9
    Reply 24, posted (8 years 7 months 15 hours ago) and read 6850 times:

    Vio,

    That looks like reasonably light traffic in YYZ. I have seen it so much worse.



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    25 ANCFlyer : Paris France . . . no offense to the Frenchies, but those fuckers over there don't use turn signals, don't know why they even install them . . . Rome
    26 Stirling : There was a story out a few days ago calling Moscow pretty bad; based on the number of traffic deaths and pedestrian deaths..of which it leads. Person
    27 Post contains images Komododx : 1)Bogota, Colombia 2)South Florida Area 3)Tallahassee, FL - The city itself can be crossed by car in about 10-15mins, but b/w 4-7 pm it can take up to
    28 Srbmod : Too many pickup trucks????? People talk about how bad the LA traffic is, Atlanta's is right up there with them. If LA had the interstate and road sys
    29 ACDC8 : As far as bad drivers are concerend, my home town of Vernon BC takes the cake. We've only got a population of about 35,000 but it wouldn't surprise me
    30 Sidewinder : Ted, for once we agree on something! Ever try looking for a considerate driver in palm beach county? I know their has to be one out their.
    31 Vio : ACDC8, Vancouver isn't so hot either... But compared to Toronto.. man.. you can't even compare.... I'm surprised Vernon would be bad. Calgary is prett
    32 Post contains images Vio : I should add that Pyongyang (however u spell that), North Korea, would have THE BEST TRAFFIC..   EVERYONE AGREE?[Edited 2005-09-24 03:44:36]
    33 ME AVN FAN : - Well, the traffic lights in Cairo now are excellent if compared with the early 80ies, as they have been technically improved and the Cairenes have
    34 ACDC8 : It's not the amount of traffic here, it's just the amount of excesivly bad driving. Personally, I enjoy driving in Vancouver much more because most o
    35 LipeGIG : No doubt, Los Angeles & Sao Paulo What a city pair ! Terrible! Felipe
    36 Chugach : Ya know....people in the lower 48 never believe me when I tell them how congested our little city can be. It can sometimes take me 40 minutes to driv
    37 Post contains images ANCFlyer : I will never understand how we have Bragaw Road in 3 places, and none connect. How we have have 8 Fairbanks Streets, and none of them connect. How th
    38 Levent : My top three would be: - Bangkok, Thailand - Istanbul, Turkey - Rome, Italy
    39 Chugach : Ah, you left out the Dowling/Seward roundabout. Did you happen to see my letter to the editor in the ADN on Tuesday suggesting that whoever designed
    40 TUNisia : CAIRO !!! It's a madhouse to say the least. Picture the chariot race in Ben Hur and instead of horses add old french cars. (read that in a book once,
    41 COEWR777 : For a little city Tampa Bay is pretty bad
    42 UK_Dispatcher : It has to be Cairo - absolutely crazy!
    43 Post contains images Gkirk : M25 London - The biggest car park in the world M60/61/62 around Manchester
    44 Post contains links Bragi : Saigon - http://www.hugi.is/hahradi/bigboxes.php?box_id=51208&f_id=1433
    45 Post contains images JeffSFO : That's not a bad thing at all! It depends on where you're driving. Granted, I've never had to commute to or from the East Bay (which I've heard is a
    46 Mrniji : There is only one valid answer to this question: DELHI! DELHI! DELHI! DELHI! DELHI! DELHI! DELHI! DELHI! DELHI! DELHI! DELHI!
    47 Post contains images Nimish : Wouldn't Rangoon (Myanmar) also fall in the same category You must be kidding me! Delhi's traffic is like heaven compared to the mess in BLR. I swear
    48 Post contains images EZEIZA : 1) Lagos, Nigeria .... chaotic traffic all the time 2) Sao Paulo ..... the only city where I found traffic on a Saturday morning 3) Rush hours are bad
    49 Post contains images HAWK21M : Crazy driving - New Delhi. Crazy Traffic Jams - Mumbai. regds MEL
    50 FlyAUA : Beirut and Paris are on the top of the list for me...
    51 QR332 : In the Mideast: 1. Cairo, Egypt - Crazy doesn't even BEGIN to describe it! 7 million people in one city = one big huge traffic jam of a road system. 2
    52 Dtwclipper : What an absolutely ignorant statement!!! Have you EVER driven in the Detroit metro Area? We have one of the best freeway systems in the country, easy
    53 PanAm330 : Orlando, Florida. Especially I-4, at anytime of the day. Idiot tourists and teenagers/old people who can't drive make it especially fun to drive there
    54 Post contains images LY7E7 : I drove a lot in NYC and have to say that it's not as bad as the locals try to present it. After reading this thread I think that most of us bitch the
    55 Post contains images TR763 : Really, I live in Sp´s west area. Everyday to get to university and work (which are downtown - Sé) I have to get marginal tietê in the morning and
    56 September11 : In the last 2 days: Houston, Texas has to be the worst city in the world to drive! Hence Hurriance Rita evacuation.
    57 CXA330300 : Johannesburg without question. Never again!
    58 September11 : In the last 2 days: Houston, Texas Hence Hurricane Rita evacuation.
    59 Post contains images ANCFlyer : I read all the letters to the editor about that assinine design. Didn't know one was yours of course (I save my letters to the editor to bitch about
    60 September11 : In the last 2 days: Houston, Texas has to be the worst city in the world to drive! Hence Hurricane Rita evacuation.
    61 Post contains images PPVRA : Can't wait to get back Cheers
    62 BMIFlyer : I thought Bombay was the worst? Im not sure lol. Lee
    63 Post contains images Senorcarnival : I see nothing has changed since the last time I was in SP 4 years ago
    64 Soups : 1-Lagos CHAOTIC 2-Any town/city in Lebanon .... saw people driving on the wrong side of the motorway.... i even myself was stuck in traffic.. got fed
    65 Seb146 : Me too! I lived there for two years and that sucked the worst! It took me two hours or more to travel 20 miles from Auburn to Bellevue. That was ALL
    66 MKEdude : Here in the United States there is no question that Boston is the worst. Fifteen years and thirteen billion dollars did jack shit! The Mass Pike is st
    67 Glidepath73 : MANILA!!!!! Just terrible traffic there! And the oldest stinky cars there! Without aircondition, you will be killed by the smoke which covers the city
    68 Post contains links and images Fumanchewd : Whenever I'm staying in a bubble city its a real bitch to drive and get some chinese food.
    69 UsAirways16bwi : why do you drive in a parkway, and park in a driveway????? that question bugs me. Anyway..the Baltimore/D.C area is very bad also. I remember one time
    70 FlyMIA : Well alot of the cities above are really bad. But I only comment on Cities I been to. Exactly traffic is not that bad in Buenos Aires but you guys dri
    71 LFutia : Agreed! Couldn't agree with you more! although i cant remember how long it took us to get from the trainstation to some hotel close to the trainstati
    72 Post contains links and images Acho : Monterrey, Mexico Most of the steets are "vias rapidas" (fast streets) where cars merge in in every corner, and suddenly have a stoplights. The main f
    73 Intothinair : Yeah, as much as i like Jakarta, the traffic is terrible. NO WAY. I lived there for 2 years(As well as Jakarta), traffic there is so much better than
    74 Vivek0072 : Bangalore & Mumbai. When I came to LA many said driving in LA especially on 405 is hell , but I found it much better than driving in B'lore.
    75 ME AVN FAN : - while they just drive a bit speedy but tolerantly. yes, they have a bit a liberal style of driving !
    76 ME AVN FAN : �- Beirut ?? was there last year and drove around town and down to Saida and over into the Beka'a and wondered about the moderate style of drivi
    77 ME AVN FAN : .- Drove around in Cairo for some days both in 2002 and in 2003 at very different times. Congestions of course ARE a mess, but their driving has beco
    78 Post contains images Smitten : London is a beast Los Angeles is a nightmare... But have you ever been to Cairo?!?! It was good fun to experience (as passengers), but we did fear for
    79 ME AVN FAN : yes, I have driven around in Cairo in a rented car (driving MYself) in 2002 and 2003 . Some congestions of course are remarkable, but never met anyth
    80 Vio : In today's world, pretty much every major city has its traffic problems, however reading all the comments posted here, I'd have to say that Cairo woul
    81 Captaink : It seems like all big cities have a major traffic problem.. But in those I have been, Mexico crazy is unbelievably crazy, and NYC and Miami could be r
    82 Post contains images PipoA380 : Hanoi, Vietnam
    83 Basas : I've always found Atlanta pretty crazy...
    84 Post contains images EZEIZA : It's very fun to drive here not a good thing, but since most times the police is completely useless (no alcohol checks, or speed checks, etc.), you c
    85 SpinalTap : For me Los Angeles. I am convinced that you could get places faster a lot of the time on suburban streets rather than the freeways.
    86 TACAA320 : I personally think that Cairo, Rome and New Dehli.
    87 Post contains images BigOrange : London New York Manchester (UK) Route 1 in Princeton, NJ Garden State Parkway NJ (southbound on a Saturday, northbound on a Sunday) in summer. Driving
    88 Post contains images TheSonntag : Aarhus, Denmark Kære dansker, I er dejlige mennesker, men de fleste af jer kan ikke køre bil (Dear Danes, you are great people, but most of you cann
    89 Post contains images Marambio : You bet it is! Last Saturday at around 4 am I reached my own record of speeding up to 90 km/h (I'm a relaxed kind of guy, you know?) on Libertador ne
    90 FlyVirgin744 : But Palm Beach County has great traffic flow on some of their roads, the ones I timed the lights on ofcourse. (Okeechobee, Southern etc...)
    91 Post contains images Chugach : I don't have a problem with roundabouts in general, but that one is a horrible design. Combine that with the fact that yielding is a foreign concept
    92 ME AVN FAN : ¨- But driving in Cairo quite positively is FUN ! I like it each time. People are tolerant, flexible, humourous. You just need some flexibility and
    93 Kingsford : Bucharest-London All cities have problems with peak hours. Some cities in developing economies have hard times to cope with the increasing number of c
    94 Flanker : Cairo and Istanbul... both Amazing cities but when it comes to driving its hell.
    95 QANTAS077 : Cairo was a nightmare but when we got out of the city it was pretty good, funniest thing i have ever seen on a road was in Cairo crossing one of the b
    96 DLPMMM : Sorry folks, but most of you are waaay off. Our Indian friends take the cake hands down, it's just a matter of which city in India is the worst. The r
    97 Iowaman : Las Vegas is pretty bad believe it or not, I lived there for 11 years and at rush hour it's pretty bad (yes, there are 1.5 million+ people that live i
    98 TACAA320 : Driving in Cairo IS a mess.
    99 AA777 : 1. Cairo, Egypt. 2. Beirut, Lebanon 3. New York 4. Washington DC 5. Los Angeles -AA777
    100 Kykevin54 : Manila is Hell. No two ways about it. Choking pollution is an understatement.
    101 Post contains images UTA_flyinghigh : GVA was dangerous to drive in but fortunately the rhaat has now moved to Brighton. UTA
    102 AMSGOT : My vote goes to Sao Paulo, without the traffic jams. Does this count for SP-state? Or just the city? Since I'm a traffic scientist, I'm just curious..
    103 Runway23 : Brighton may not be big but it is a horrible town to drive in. There are more buses than cars, tons of buslanes, the whole town is basically made up o
    104 Post contains images UTA_flyinghigh : So that means Brightonians hopefooly will never experience the dangers of a Rhaatmobile roaming the streets. UTA
    105 Erikwilliam : just the city my man......
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