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Cindy Sheehan Arrested!  
User currently offlineAirTran737 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 3702 posts, RR: 12
Posted (8 years 10 months 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 2564 times:
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She should have listened to the cops, the White House is one area wher you can't screw around, but Cindy Seems to think she's above the law. Hopefully she gets the message, and doesn't try to pull the same stunt again.


edited to avoid a gigantic flame war

[Edited 2005-09-26 20:39:46]


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User currently offlineAeroWesty From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 20394 posts, RR: 62
Reply 1, posted (8 years 10 months 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 2555 times:

Yeah, had something to do with whether their permit allowed them to sit, or if they had to keep moving. Still unclear by the last report on MSNBC.

 yawn 



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User currently offlineGreyhound From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 1026 posts, RR: 2
Reply 2, posted (8 years 10 months 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 2552 times:

Looking at the smile on her face in that picture makes me wonder if the loss of her son is still the main point of contention in HER protesting, or if she has just turned into another publicity/attention whore. No wonder her husband divorced her.

[Edited 2005-09-26 20:39:38]


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User currently offlineEA CO AS From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 13517 posts, RR: 62
Reply 3, posted (8 years 10 months 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 2512 times:
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"Yippee! This is exactly what I was hoping for!"

Signed,
Cindy Sheehan



This isn't about her son anymore, and I think everyone knows that now.



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User currently offlineJaysit From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (8 years 10 months 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 2508 times:

She should have listened to the cops, the White House is one area wher you can't screw around, but Cindy Seems to think she's above the law. [/quote]

This is standard agit-prop.

You test out a silly law just a bit, get arrested and the sympathy factor goes through the roof.

Sheehan knows exactly what she is doing, in contrast to the White House which is looking worse and worse as time goes on.

Score: Sheehan 2, Bush 0.


User currently offlineTriStarEnvy From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 2265 posts, RR: 3
Reply 5, posted (8 years 10 months 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 2494 times:

I sympathize w/her loss, but she's made her point.

And, why does the media try and tell us, that Bush HAS NEVER met her. As I understand it, Dubya spoke to her, before all this protesting buisness started in Crawford.

Is it a shame her son died? Yes. But, in a way, isn't her ability to protest is allowed by the deaths of many, who lost their lives to keep us free?

If this happened to one of my children, I'd be angry, and probably protest to, but would stop, the moment some political action comittee turned up with they media hacks, in tow. I'd have had more respect for this woman, if she'd told all those camera mongering flacks to "f-off", and done her protest alone.



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User currently offlineFalcon84 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (8 years 10 months 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 2491 times:

Quoting Superfly (Reply 3):
Superfly From United States, joined May 2000, 16044 posts, RR: 71
Reply 3, posted Mon Sep 26 2005 20:41:16 UTC+2 and read 45 times:


Quoting AirTran737 (Thread starter):
Hopefully she is on an airplane to Club Gitmo as we speak

Ah, that's what he wrote.

You know nothing about freedom, do you AirTran737, do you?

Send 3/4 of the nation to Gitmo then, dude. Pathetic.


User currently offlineJpetekYXMD80 From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 4378 posts, RR: 27
Reply 7, posted (8 years 10 months 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 2476 times:

Quoting Superfly (Reply 3):

Hopefully she is on an airplane to Club Gitmo as we speak

Holy shit dude. WTF were you thinking? My goodness...that ranks right up there in the halls of stupid airliners.net quotes. Get a friggen clue.

Quoting AirTran737 (Thread starter):
edited to avoid a gigantic flame war

edited to prevent myself from being an IDIOT to all of a.net. oops too late

[Edited 2005-09-26 21:05:55]


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User currently offlineTbar220 From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 7013 posts, RR: 26
Reply 8, posted (8 years 10 months 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 2473 times:

Good for her. She's doing what she believes in, and because she sat down on the sidewalk outside the white house she got arrested? Good for her. There's more important things than people sitting outside the white house. Rosa Parks got arrested for sitting on a bus...


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User currently offlineEspion007 From Denmark, joined Dec 2003, 1691 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (8 years 10 months 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 2454 times:

Quoting AirTran737 (Thread starter):
She should have listened to the cops, the White House is one area wher you can't screw around, but Cindy Seems to think she's above the law. Hopefully she gets the message, and doesn't try to pull the same stunt again.

Im not surprised. I got stuck in DC area @ the protest saturday and some of the people there, well lets just say they are really f**ked up. Sorry, but the extreme left or right isnt where anyone should be.



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User currently offlineMidnightMike From United States of America, joined Mar 2003, 2892 posts, RR: 14
Reply 10, posted (8 years 10 months 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 2449 times:

Quoting Tbar220 (Reply 8):
Good for her. She's doing what she believes in, and because she sat down on the sidewalk outside the white house she got arrested? Good for her. There's more important things than people sitting outside the white house. Rosa Parks got arrested for sitting on a bus...

No, Cindy Sheehan was arrested for not listening to the Police. Her arrest had nothing to do with the White House, just like her protest has nothing to do with her son.

Looks like she is doing anything to get some media attention, what's next, flashing the cameras?



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User currently offlineJamesag96 From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 2095 posts, RR: 3
Reply 11, posted (8 years 10 months 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 2438 times:

She is a nut case...and less and less people really give a shit about her. The only people paying attention are the fringes on both sides.


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User currently offlineJaysit From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (8 years 10 months 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 2436 times:

Quoting TriStarEnvy (Reply 6):
And, why does the media try and tell us, that Bush HAS NEVER met her. As I understand it, Dubya spoke to her, before all this protesting buisness started in Crawford.

Is it a shame her son died? Yes. But, in a way, isn't her ability to protest is allowed by the deaths of many, who lost their lives to keep us free?

The press has stated time and time again that Dubya met with her right after her son died. She has also stated that she was in shock at the time, that the WH misrepresented her remarks (take that as her interpretation or with a grain of sand), and that once the import of her son's death struck, she wanted a face to face with the Prez (incidentally, the Prez has met several times with those family members who DO support the war).

As for the death of her son, how did his death make us more free? Saddam Hussein never attacked us; the Taliban did. Lets revisit the facts again now, shall we?


User currently offline11Bravo From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 1717 posts, RR: 10
Reply 13, posted (8 years 10 months 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 2430 times:

Quoting AirTran737,(Thread starter)::
Hopefully she is on an airplane to Club Gitmo as we speak

It's so nice to see that the right has now adopted the Stalinist Gulag reaction to political dissent. I certainly hope some of the conservatives on this forum see how completely off the reservation this sort of talk is.



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User currently offlineMidnightMike From United States of America, joined Mar 2003, 2892 posts, RR: 14
Reply 14, posted (8 years 10 months 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 2417 times:

Quoting 11Bravo (Reply 13):
Quoting AirTran737,(Thread starter)::
Hopefully she is on an airplane to Club Gitmo as we speak

It's so nice to see that the right has now adopted the Stalinist Gulag reaction to political dissent. I certainly hope some of the conservatives on this forum see how completely off the reservation this sort of talk is.

It was a stupid comment to say.

Now, saying, hopefully you can see some of the rude comments that have been directed at the President?

Been reading rude comments from both sides, Democrats & Republicans.....



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User currently offlineEA CO AS From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 13517 posts, RR: 62
Reply 15, posted (8 years 10 months 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 2405 times:
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Quoting Jaysit (Reply 12):
Saddam Hussein never attacked us

Neither did Germany. Your point?



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User currently offlineN1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 26376 posts, RR: 76
Reply 16, posted (8 years 10 months 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 2383 times:

Quoting AirTran737 (Thread starter):
She should have listened to the cops, the White House is one area wher you can't screw around, but Cindy Seems to think she's above the law. Hopefully she gets the message, and doesn't try to pull the same stunt again.

Above the law huh? She was peacably assembling on public land, which is protected by the Constitution.

Quoting EA CO AS (Reply 3):
This isn't about her son anymore, and I think everyone knows that now.

This is absolutely about her son, and the thousands of other sons and daughters who have died senselessly

Quoting TriStarEnvy (Reply 5):
who lost their lives to keep us free?

The reason people are protesting is because, first, this is not a war about keeping us free and second, this government advocates taking away the freedoms that the Constitution provides

Quoting EA CO AS (Reply 15):
Quoting Jaysit (Reply 12):
Saddam Hussein never attacked us

Neither did Germany. Your point?

Germany's ally Japan did attack the US, and they did it with the backing of the German government. Remember, we declared war on Japan first.



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User currently offlineAeroWesty From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 20394 posts, RR: 62
Reply 17, posted (8 years 10 months 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 2381 times:

Quoting EA CO AS (Reply 15):
Neither did Germany.

Germany declared war against the U.S. on December 11, 1941, and the U.S. returned the favor later the same day. Your point?



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User currently offlineSolarix From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (8 years 10 months 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 2380 times:

Not following orders from police is a bad idea. She deserves to be arrested.

Sheehan is total attention whore who will probably write a book and become a millionaire all thanks to the terrorist who pointed a gun at her son and shot him dead.

She is a sick individual who is using her sons death for her own advantage. He must be rolling over in his grave. I know I would be.


User currently offline11Bravo From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 1717 posts, RR: 10
Reply 19, posted (8 years 10 months 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 2380 times:

Quoting EA CO AS (Reply 15):
Neither did Germany.

You're right, they just cut to the chase and declared war on us instead:

Quote:
December 12, 1941
To the Congress of the United States:

On the morning of Dec. 11 the Government of Germany, pursuing its course of world conquest, declared war against the United States. The long-known and the long-expected has thus taken place. The forces endeavoring to enslave the entire world now are moving toward this hemisphere. Never before has there been a greater challenge to life, liberty and civilization. Delay invites great danger. Rapid and united effort by all of the peoples of the world who are determined to remain free will insure a world victory of the forces of justice and of righteousness over the forces of savagery and of barbarism. Italy also has declared war against the United States.

I therefore request the Congress to recognize a state of war between the United States and Germany, and between the United States and Italy.

Franklin D. Roosevelt



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User currently offlineArrow From Canada, joined Jun 2002, 2676 posts, RR: 2
Reply 20, posted (8 years 10 months 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 2371 times:
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Quoting EA CO AS (Reply 15):
Neither did Germany.

Germany declared war on the US -- not the other way around. And Germany had been sinking American ships in the lead-up to that. Iraq did none of that, and now we know it didn't have the means to do it anyway.

Bad analogy.

I love how this woman's determination to make a difference gets dismissed as publicity seeking or "whoring." What do you call misleading the United Nations and the world to generate a justification for an invasion in which tens of thousands have died and continue to die?

I'll take Cindy Sheehan's transgressions any day -- at least she has moral justification for her actions.



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User currently offlineCaptOveur From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (8 years 10 months 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 2371 times:

I have reserved commenting on this whiner and her cronies for a long time. However, this is what I feel.

Say her protest is actually about her son. By protesting the war and the military leadership isn't she pretty much saying her son wasn't smart enough to make his own decisions? This is not her fight, if her son had really been opposed to the war he could have been a chickenshit and run to Canada or something. I feel she is the one pissing on her own son's grave, not a greatful nation. I can certainly understand why her husband divorced her.

Parents fighting their children's fights are a big problem with this country and it is getting worse. Everywhere you go whenever something goes wrong, people run to their parents to make it better, and stupidly, the parents do whatever it takes to make the problem go away. If people of military age really were opposed to this war why is a dead soldiers mother the most vocal protestor? She kind of loses all credibility because I have a hard time seeing this as her fight.

And she did have her meeting with Bush. Bush meets with the families of almost all, if not all of the soldiers who die over there. I feel her sudden change of heart has something to do with the backing of needtotakeourownadvice.org (moveon).

Yes, she got what she wanted by getting arrested, however, laws are laws. She new damn good and well if she sat there long enough in defiance of police orders she would get arrested. She knew the law, she broke it. It was a no-win for the police, they look weak if they let her sit there in defiance of the law, and they look like assholes if they arrest her.

Ok bring on the flames.


User currently offlineMidnightMike From United States of America, joined Mar 2003, 2892 posts, RR: 14
Reply 22, posted (8 years 10 months 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 2344 times:

Quoting N1120A (Reply 16):
Quoting AirTran737 (Thread starter):
She should have listened to the cops, the White House is one area wher you can't screw around, but Cindy Seems to think she's above the law. Hopefully she gets the message, and doesn't try to pull the same stunt again.

Above the law huh? She was peacably assembling on public land, which is protected by the Constitution.

She broke the law

Quote:

Police warned them three times that they were breaking the law by failing to move along, then began making arrests.



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User currently offlineMidnightMike From United States of America, joined Mar 2003, 2892 posts, RR: 14
Reply 23, posted (8 years 10 months 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 2328 times:

Quoting Arrow (Reply 20):
What do you call misleading the United Nations and the world to generate a justification for an invasion in which tens of thousands have died and continue to die?

I thought that Cindy Sheehan was protesting that she wanted to speak with President Bush, a 2nd time? The 2nd meeting with the President was supposed be about her son, who by the way, voluntarily enlisted, & re-enlisted.....



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User currently offlineN1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 26376 posts, RR: 76
Reply 24, posted (8 years 10 months 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 2322 times:

Quoting MidnightMike (Reply 23):
Quoting N1120A (Reply 16):
Quoting AirTran737 (Thread starter):
She should have listened to the cops, the White House is one area wher you can't screw around, but Cindy Seems to think she's above the law. Hopefully she gets the message, and doesn't try to pull the same stunt again.

Above the law huh? She was peacably assembling on public land, which is protected by the Constitution.

She broke the law

Quote:

Police warned them three times that they were breaking the law by failing to move along, then began making arrests.

She did not break a law if it is invalid



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25 MidnightMike : Protesting in an area, without a permit is illegal, hence, breaking the law. Are you trying to say that the Police made an illegal arrest???
26 NWA742 : Good, that unbelievable bitch got what she deserved. Police warned them time after time that they were breaking the law. But Miss Cindy knew what she
27 EA CO AS : Like hell it is. Don't fool yourself - this is about her. She's angry, bitter and her only agenda is to do everything she can to embarrass the Presid
28 N1120A : Whether or not she had the permit is still in question No, the current federal government thinks they are above the law Would you want to talk to som
29 CaptOveur : How is the law invalid, oh legal genius?
30 Halls120 : I'd like to see the President to express my complaints about the way he's running the country, but it ain't happening. Ms. Sheehan can make all the r
31 NWA742 : But the police spent time questioning her and warning her that she was breaking the law, and they certainly would've asked for a permit. And since sh
32 HAJFlyer : Funny thing is that many people who share your political views routinely complain about declining family values and the fact that parents don't get i
33 FDXmech : Don't underestimate the power of a little cleavage. It might actually improve her credibility at this point. I don't know, what? Here's one for you.
34 CaptOveur : There is a big difference between knowing who your kids friends are and bailing their asses out of every problem they get themselves into. If parents
35 Airlinelover : It never TRULY was about her son. She does not like Bush, and while that's fine and good, she used her sons death as an excuse to do all this.. I agr
36 Post contains images Falcon84 : Germany DECLARED WAR ON US. That's the point. Germany told us to, in the words of our inept president, to "bring it on". We did, we kicked the shit o
37 B744F : Where do you get your history from? Germany was attacking all shipping going to the Allies before the US got involved in the war. Germany also then d
38 FDXMECH : The problem is, Falcon, that the Dems, who are theoretically in great position to win elections couldn't have picked a worse time to be co-opted from
39 Halls120 : You are missing the point. Ms. Sheehan's son was no longer a child. He was an adult who made his own decisions, yet mom apparently can't move on. I'd
40 NWA742 : So very true. Right now, despite how much I dislike this woman, she is the Republican party's best friend right now. Most of the Democrats that I per
41 N1120A : No, they aren't
42 Falcon84 : That's a pretty sad freaking indictment of the GOP, pinning their hopes on one woman who is against the war. That says more about the desperation of
43 FDXMECH : I disagree. For a reasonable person to agree with Sheehan is akin to a stopped clock being right twice a day.
44 Seb146 : But, her protest does have something to do with her son. The president told her and all others who have lost family to the Iraqi invasion they died f
45 Halls120 : I agree. Both parties keep pandering to their extremist fringe, and we in the middle get to suffer for it. What else was he supposed to say? After Ms
46 MidnightMike : To add to your comment, most Americans sympathize with Cindy Sheehan, and most Americans do not agree with her tactics and most Americans do not agre
47 Airlinelover : The cause is pure anti-bush. She takes it one step further with her disagreement about the war.. Damn you.. Oh- and statements like GO CANUKS absolut
48 Seb146 : Halls120: One problem with National Guard troops is their commander-in-chief is the governer of that particular state. They have been taken over by th
49 HAJFlyer : The latest USA Today/ Gallup poll does point a somewhat different picture: "Just 41 percent of the 818 adults polled between Friday and Monday said t
50 TPASXM787 : This is an exaggeration. Anyways, to beat a dead horse a little more, she can protest all she wants, no problem there. But, apparently she broke a la
51 NWA742 : I see your point, however, I think it's a worse indictment of the Dems. Why? Because of the fact that the Dems have lost credibility (concerning peop
52 Post contains links and images MidnightMike : Cindy Sheehan now has an opinion on the Hurricane? (just being a wise ass, peace! ) http://poll.gallup.com/content/default.aspx?CI=18355
53 11Bravo : If by her “opinion on the war” you mean support for an immediate withdraw, you’re correct, although that number is growing. If you mean general
54 Slider : It wasn't about her son as soon as she was done meeting with the president the first time. You're right. Another good point- he was a good guy who RE
55 ANCFlyer : It wasn't about her son on like day 3 of her escapade in Crawford . . . ""Sheehan and several dozen other protesters sat down on the sidewalk after m
56 Post contains images Dan-Air : How many elected Democrats have endorsed/appeared with Sheehan. That would be zero. Next "Dems have lost credibility". I love this. There are no WMD'
57 Skyway1 : Cookoo.......cookoo...
58 Springbok747 : Big thread..I didn't bother reading the whole thing... Cindy Sheehan is nothing but an opportunist vulture, preying on the corpse of her own son to ge
59 ANCFlyer : If you want to count Jessie Jackson and Al Sharpton . . . both democrats . . . they both went to Crawford to jump on her bandwagon Dan-Air. As for el
60 Post contains images NWA742 : It doesn't matter if they endorse with her or not. They are still letting people like Sheehan, Moore, and Dean use their radical liberal views as a m
61 MidnightMike : That is a good point about how many elected Democrats have met/endorsed Cindy Sheehan. The only thing that I remember reading is that former Presiden
62 Post contains images Mdsh00 : Funny how over a year ago, when Christian Righties were getting arrested left and right, that they were fighting for a "just cause." But a woman prote
63 MidnightMike : You are not really going to compare these great men to Cindy Sheehan are you?
64 LTBEWR : Regetfully, protest in this country against the war in Iraq has been taken over by far too many liberal, anti-governemnt, anti-rich extemeists. Then y
65 Slider : There is a marked difference between protest, civil disobedience, and being a certified crazed nutjob as she is.
66 FDXMECH : Yes. You can't extrapolate Democratic credibility simply by extolling a percieved Republican lack of credibility. To do such a thing sums up why the
67 MaverickM11 : It was the Jews!! .
68 Jrw261 : Sure you can, when they get old enough to live on their own you let them make and live with their own decisions... when they are little punks in high
69 AeroWesty : The Park Service police were just interviewed on MSNBC. The sit-in and arrests were pre-planned, in fact, the Park Service had been contacted in advan
70 ANCFlyer : Which makes it all the more assinine . . . and further erodes any credibility in Sheehan's cause - what ever that has bastardized itself in to now -
71 Slider : Yes, I see it. Sadly, every network was climbing over one another just to get a camera up in there. I'd say the tactic of the attention whore worked.
72 OttoPylit : Yes, let's revisit the facts: 1. 1914-Germany never attacked us. No one did, yet we entered WWI on the side of the Allied Powers and won. 2. 1941-Ger
73 AeroWesty : Excuse me? Did you have two 50's and move right onto the 70's? How do you know where anyone was during any of these conflicts?
74 Post contains images Airlinelover : I wish someone would remove her from the gene pool...... As for what the cause is: FREEING a people from a supressive and evil dictator who took plea
75 Post contains images ANCFlyer : An attention whore with absolutely zero credibility any longer. . . . yeah, she's grieving over the loss of her son . . . smiling big for cameras tho
76 B744F : Flat out lie. It was the Russians who won the Eastern front. Yes they did! Does the Gulf of Tonkin refresh your memory? And he was also a CIA trained
77 Dragon-wings : No we couldn't. Gemany and Japan were allies when we declared war with Japan we were basically at war with Germany and Italy too. Show me the proof.
78 Boeing7E7 : You mean the son she didn't even raise?
79 AeroWesty : Dude, did you never read the Pentagon Papers? Come on, this is old old news.
80 Mdsh00 : Not at all. Those men are incomparable. Just trying to make a point that those men did what they did to get the attention of the world through civil
81 B744F : I know, I was just joking at the excuse used to justify the war
82 Dan-Air : You make a number of good points. Here's my beef: opposition to US involvement in a war in Iraq was well-founded long before our troops ever rode int
83 OttoPylit : Sit down AeroWesty, none of this was said towards you. It was said in response to another poster, and that poster isn't you. And stop using quotes fr
84 Airlinelover : Oh.. PLEASE give me details on this one..
85 CaptOveur : Nice deflection, and way to dig up a fight that has long since been put to bed and is a total non-issue. I guess when you have nothing constructive t
86 Halls120 : Having spent 20 years on active duty, you don't need to explain to me what the difference is between the national guard and the regular army. The reg
87 L-188 : Too bad they didn't light her up with the Taser.
88 AeroWesty : But it worked so well! I noticed your "bad rap" answer clearly avoided the question of how you could presume to know where anyone was during any of t
89 Post contains images MattCLE : All these sob stories are getting out of control. First we had the right with Bob and Mary Schindler and now we have the left with Cindy Sheehan. Will
90 Dragon-wings : It was the US who pushed out the weapons inspectors so Bush can go ahead and invade Iraq. And show me the proof that Iraq was capable of making nucle
91 Post contains links AeroWesty : You can read the entirety of Cindy Sheehan's comments on the so-called occupation of New Orleans as printed by The Huffington Post here: http://www.h
92 Halls120 : Yes, soldiers were carrying weapons. That's what happens when civil order breaks down, and lawless citizens are taking potshots at rescuers and the c
93 L-188 : Note to the whore....You ain't worth the ammo.
94 Post contains images OttoPylit : I didn't avoid it, I just didn't answer it. I don't know you and can't say where you were at any point, just as much as you can't say where I was at
95 Post contains links MidnightMike : http://www.un.int/usa/sres-iraq.htm
96 AeroWesty : Right, the only point of contention is the direction their muzzles were pointed. During patrols you point them down. Under fire, then you raise and s
97 Dan-Air : Resolution brought by the US and the UK. Wait a minute - that's the same two countries that were pushing for war, am I right? Iraq failed to disclose
98 Halls120 : But according to our new military expert, Ms. Sheehan, the weapons in question were slung over their backs. It's hard to shoot an M-16 or M-4 when it
99 TedTAce : Ignoring all above. This bitch has done more to fu¢k up her own cause, then if W had walked up to her, and punched her dumb ass out. Sure I think the
100 Post contains images ANCFlyer : Ted, you're spot on Buddy!
101 AeroWesty : Well I'm not a marksman, so maybe you can help me understand. The rifle will have a strap, and you can either have it hang on your back, over your sh
102 AeroWesty : If her arrest got 102 replies to the thread about it in just a few hours, I'd say she accomplished just what she set out to do--bring her message to
103 ANCFlyer : The Louisiana National Guard didn't have weapons for the first three days of this Katrina operation . . . that was all over the news. I guess the idi
104 AeroWesty : Right, thanks for the explanation of the carrying positions. Interesting! Now, let's reconcile the date Sheehan was there, Sept. 15th, a full 17 days
105 KiwiNanday : So, do you think maybe she was bullshitting? I don't think she saw those images in person. I think she saw them on TV, and is just spreading her bulls
106 Halls120 : Whether the barrel is pointing up or down, if the rifle is slung over the back, it is not ready to fire. Slung over the shoulder, barrel pointed down
107 AeroWesty : Right, but 17 days after? Machine gun nests? I'm not trying to be unnecessarily argumentative, I'm looking at this from the same uneducated eye she p
108 Post contains images ANCFlyer : Got a picture I can see? Are you sure it's not file footage? There were no 'maching gun nests' (which are really called "fighting positions" that I e
109 Halls120 : This is why the military doesn't like to engage in civilian law enforcement. Civilians just don't understand that training for combat is nothing like
110 AeroWesty : LOL, it's in her blog entry on The Huffington Post. This is why I'm asking questions before calling a spade a spade. Okay, I think that we can agree
111 Post contains images Solarix : Wow. That picture really shows how childish Cindy Sheehan is. She looks like a 5 year being hauled off to bed by her parents while throwing a temper
112 ClipperHawaii : She gets knocked off the front pages after three solid weeks of hurricanes so she HAD to do something! Pathetic and an embarrassment anyway you look a
113 Post contains images ANCFlyer : Are we talking Ariana Huffington??????? Whata cancer that woman is. . . .
114 Post contains images AeroWesty : Yup! One and the same. I thought you'd enjoy her.
115 Post contains links Dan-Air : Would that be the whole 400 Bush supporters that showed up to laugh at the 300,000 that showed up in support of Sheehan? Would it be the tremendous o
116 GuitrThree : Wow. Saturday, it was 50-75K. Sunday, it was 100K Today, I heard 150K, 200K, and now 300K. What, are people still showing up?
117 Clipperhawaii : Although your post is factually not all there I appreciate the post nontheless. Way to post a rebuttle!
118 GuitrThree : Yea.. let me translate: Way to lie... although you "lied" with your figures, I still say good job. Lest, we forget, the last time any REAL count on w
119 Clipperhawaii : Did I spell rebuttal that way? Now that's embarrassing! But not as embarrassing as Ms.Sheehan and her actions. I think I am going to ban myself for a
120 Post contains links GuitrThree : Hey... I'll give you a pass. The spell checker is currently fried.... The last two days I've tried to use it I get: Proxy Error The proxy server rece
121 Post contains images Oldeuropean : Yeah, into the concentration camp, where she belongs. Heil Bush! Axel [Edited 2005-09-27 08:23:23]
122 Halls120 : On Monday? You heard wrong. I work downtown DC, and saw a few hundred at most.
123 Jaysit : WHat a twat you are for making such a comment. Her husband still supports her cause and has gone on record stating that it is his cause too; the rela
124 Thumper3181 : Quoting Springbok747 � �Cindy Sheehan is nothing but an opportunist vulture, preying on the corpse of her own son to get her face on the cam
125 GuitrThree : I'm just repeating what all the liberal spew tanks and people are saying here.
126 Post contains links Dan-Air : No, let me translate! LA-LA-LA-I-CAN'T-HEAR-YOU! Guitr - come back with some numbers to refute mine or STFU (apologies to O'Reilly for stealing that
127 GuitrThree : "The anti-war rally, held Saturday at the western edge of the National Mall, drew a crowd of 100,000 or more. Lasting a marathon 12 hours, it featured
128 Dan-Air : When I was 5, I had already learned the effective use of *sarcasm* (and had my ass kicked to prove it). Let's lighten up folks: "Now here's some sad
129 Halls120 : Wow. I've been called lots of names in my life, but this one is a first. Childish, of course, but funny as well. If her husband supports her cause, h
130 DL021 : dude, that's why it's difficult to talk to you sometimes. You turn to insults in order to piss people off. It's stupid and beneath you. oh? And you a
131 B744F : Of course they were having a hard enough time fighting the Eastern front, but the Allies were having a hard enough time fighting the western front an
132 Halls120 : So we should have let the North Koreans - who attacked us in South Korea - kill or capture all of our troops without resisting? The first Gulf War -
133 B744F : The troops shouldn't have been there in the first place. And besides, why didn't they go after China?? We let their troops kill and capture our troop
134 Post contains links DL021 : chirp chirp shoddy history chirp..... Just so no one is misled by nutty crickets.. the Germans had an entire division on one beach at Normandy....the
135 B744F : Misled? I just counted the total divisions that the Russians faced and the allies faced. 9 to 92 So who is misleading whom?
136 DL021 : chirp chirp chirp......silly cricket....history is for those who read!
137 B744F : Go ahead and read. What I stated is the truth. The Allies in the west had an easy time compared to the Allies in the east. If the Allies in the west
138 Post contains images Airlinelover : Her husband might support an anti-war thing, but NOT his EX-wife's MOVEMENT. Remember, HE went on record as saying she is an EMBARASSMENT to the fami
139 DL021 : chirp chirp bs chirp..... crickets that refuse to read history get into deeper doo-doo. Back on topic....did Sheehan not call New Orleans "occupied"?
140 Airlinelover : Kind of? Chris
141 Slider : Look at the price per barrel dude. Nuf said. The whole oil argument is specious. You may disagree with the war, as might I, but at least do it on leg
142 B744F : This argument makes no sense. But if you want proof, look at the PROFITS the companies are making, do you honestly think they would pass on the savin
143 Post contains links Jetjack74 : No wonder her family has distanced themselves from her. Everyone know's it's Cindy
144 AeroWesty : In other news, apparently Sen. McCain has met with Sheehan in private today, and she'll be a guest on Hardball with Chris Matthews on MSNBC today (5PM
145 Captoveur : Look at demand, genius. Oil companies are in business to make a profit.
146 Goose : The only poll that counts is an election.
147 Post contains links and images OttoPylit : Are you trying to say that all the Allies are a bunch of pussies except for the Russians and couldn't hold their own? By the way, the Allies on the W
148 B744F : I never said they were a bunch of pussies, I just said THE reason for the victory in Europe was the Russians Ignore the question? That was the whole
149 Halls120 : Don't hold your breath waiting for any substantiation. B744F is famous for posting crap, and when challenged, running away. And your source for this
150 NWA742 : Translation: I can't back up my statements. -NWA742
151 JCS17 : I've said it once, I'll say it again-- get this woman some psychiatric help. Grief is normal, but the inability to recognize that she is being used an
152 Post contains images CaptOveur : Wow.. I never thought I would see someone waste the effort to lay out B744F.. You have earned this.
153 Slider : Which is exactly the play to make if you're an aspiring presidential candidate. If there was EVER a case to have an ignore function on A.net, this is
154 GuitrThree : McCain was on the Sean Hannity show Tuesday and spoke about this meeting. I know, I know, you're listening to Hannity, blah blah blah, BUT, he surpri
155 Post contains links Slider : http://www.usatoday.com/news/washing...on/2005-09-28-sheehan-mccain_x.htm She called McCain- a former POW no less- a warmonger. And she lied as well,
156 Post contains images OttoPylit : Ya know, after reading his last post and noticing that he not only could not answer any question I posed, nor back up any answer he did try to post,
157 B744F : Actually I did address every single one of your flawed comments, and showed you how ignorant your "bandwagon" remark was So you call backing up your
158 FDXmech : I caught, Hardball, last night. Matthews, who's normally tough played softball with her. What irked me was he didn't ask Sheehan about her New Orlean
159 FDXMECH : Could Cindy Sheehan be a Trojan Horse created by Karl Rove to make the left look positively silly and gullible? On a chosen date Cindy would appear a
160 Cfalk : I must be ill, but I have to back up B744F again. Although I believe your figures are incorrect - there were more than many more than 100 divisions i
161 11Bravo : There were 58 German divisions under command of OB West in June, 1944 including 9 Panzer Divisions in France and Holland (6 Heer, 3 SS). Those figure
162 B744F : So I got my numbers mixed up, but weren't the Russians responsible for something like 80% of the German casualty rate?
163 11Bravo : Yes, I believe that's correct. Clearly the USSR endured the brunt of the fighting in the ETO during WWII. Having said that, it is equally clear that
164 Gilligan : Man, you mean they didn't even get to taser her just to make sure she was subduded? What a shame. I'm surprised she didn't "accidentally trip" while g
165 B744F : Thank you for the correction. And this wasn't supposed to be an anti-troops, or anti-US argument. I was just responding to the illogical "the US won t
166 Post contains images Usnseallt82 : Unfortunately, a little bit of fame seems to do this to people. Oh well....when the crap dies down, guess who's got fingerprints and a record on file
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