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Abu Ghraib's PFC Lynndie England, Guilty!  
User currently offlineAeroWesty From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 20552 posts, RR: 62
Posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 1896 times:

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FORT HOOD, Texas - Army Pfc. Lynndie England, whose smiling poses in photos of detainee abuse at Abu Ghraib made her the face of the scandal, was convicted Monday by a military jury on all but one of the seven counts she faced.

England, 22, was found guilty of one count of conspiracy, four counts of maltreating detainees and one count of committing an indecent act. She was acquitted on a second conspiracy count.


I wonder what the conditions are in the brig these days?


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User currently offlineCaptOveur From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 1887 times:

Don't you just love scape goats?

User currently offlineZRH From Switzerland, joined Nov 1999, 5566 posts, RR: 36
Reply 2, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 1870 times:

Of course she deserves a penalty but she is only a very stupid naive girl. The real guilty people are her superiors before all the Commander in Chief: GWB.

User currently offlineAirlinelover From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 5580 posts, RR: 23
Reply 3, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 1860 times:

Quoting ZRH (Reply 2):
The real guilty people are her superiors before all the Commander in Chief: GWB.

I am certail Bush did not order or KNOW about these things until after they happened.... So stop your bush bashing..

Quoting AeroWesty (Thread starter):
I wonder what the conditions are in the brig these days?

I bet she won't get it as good as a lot of war prisoners get it.. With the geneva convention and treatment of prisioners and stuff, that ONLY the US seems to follow (most of the time) they get it better then people who were used by the superiors..

She's in for a tough time, I feel sorry for her..

Chris



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User currently offlineFalcon84 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 1850 times:

Quoting CaptOveur (Reply 1):
Don't you just love scape goats?

Boy, do you and I agree on that one, Captain. Not that she isn't guilty of something, but as ANCFlyer noted over and over, the little peons don't take a dump without permission from above. Someone of higher rank is hiding behind these scapegoats.

Quoting Airlinelover (Reply 3):
I am certail Bush did not order or KNOW about these things until after they happened.... So stop your bush bashing..

I agree with you Chris-to a point. I don't think Bush knew about this when it happened, but I think Rumsfeld and Gonzalez did, and they're just as guilty as Lyddie. But in the end, ultimately, the C-in-C IS responsible, and, so, to an extent, it lays on Bush's desk. It's his war, after all.

Quoting Airlinelover (Reply 3):
She's in for a tough time, I feel sorry for her..

I don't. Orders or not, she has to lie in the bed she made. No pity here.


User currently offlineSeb146 From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 11591 posts, RR: 15
Reply 5, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 1842 times:

My question is the same as everyone elses: What about the higer-ups that told her it was okay to do that to prisoners? Oh, that's right.... they get promoted....

GO CANUCKS!!



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User currently offlinePyrex From Portugal, joined Aug 2005, 4008 posts, RR: 28
Reply 6, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 1810 times:

Quoting Airlinelover (Reply 3):
With the geneva convention and treatment of prisioners and stuff, that ONLY the US seems to follow

Funniest thing I've read since I joined A.Net

Guantanamo anyone?



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User currently offlineLTBEWR From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 13088 posts, RR: 12
Reply 7, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 1803 times:

When are the trials for the many other of her fellow military people, officers and in the Pentagon who encouraged or turned a blind eye to the treatment of some prisioners there. Maybe some of them could be brought up on war crimes or international human rights violations.

User currently offlineSlider From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 6799 posts, RR: 34
Reply 8, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 1800 times:

She won't get sent up the river--after all, America's little favorite two-bagger sweetheart is a Mom now!!!

Very seldom reported, the reason the trial and all that was put on hold was so she could give birth.

Guess who the father is?

Yup. Spc. Charles Graner. They won't send both parents up the river. Although proper military justice would demand it. I feel sorry for that kid.


User currently offlineANCFlyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 1798 times:

Quoting Airlinelover (Reply 3):
Quoting ZRH (Reply 2):
The real guilty people are her superiors before all the Commander in Chief: GWB.

I am certail Bush did not order or KNOW about these things until after they happened.... So stop your bush bashing..

 checkmark  Assinine comment.

Quoting Falcon84 (Reply 4):
but as ANCFlyer noted over and over, the little peons don't take a dump without permission from above. Someone of higher rank is hiding behind these scapegoats.

Exactly . . . as always happens . . . the widget pays the price . . . be it Staff Sergeant Grainer or PFC England. Both are guilty, I agree, but both acted under orders . . . period. And whomever issued those orders is taking a walk, free and clear.

Quoting Seb146 (Reply 5):
Oh, that's right.... they get promoted....

Not exactly . . . the Brigadier General that "commanded" Abu Ghraib has been summarily reduced in rank to Colonel and drummed out of the service. I made specific mention of her because her statement that "although I was the commander of this facility there were some places I was told I could not go" is pure bullshit. As the commander - or Command Sergeant Major - of anyplace, I'll be damned if I'm going to be told "I can't go anywhere" in my command sphere of influence. That won't settle with me not for an instant. She knew, and she did nothing except let her people take the fall. She deserves no better than Grainer or England . . . but she's not doing any jail time. What a waste.

Don't even get me started on Dumsfeld . . . I also believe he knew . . . if he didn't specifically authorize this action, he didn't stop it - so that's tacit acknowledgement and permission.

Nuf Said . . . for now.


User currently offlineAirlinelover From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 5580 posts, RR: 23
Reply 10, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 1737 times:

Quoting Pyrex (Reply 6):

Funniest thing I've read since I joined A.Net

Guantanamo anyone?

LOOK EVERYONE!! A N00B!!!!

I guess in Portugal you don't have access to some of the reports we do in the states describing how much better a lot of the terrorist prisoners have it then a lot of law-abiding US citizens... Medical care, food, clothes.. All for free becuase they are terrorists who got caught..

I DO feel that torture and HARSHER treatment SHOULD be instituted on some prisoners, depending on the crime... Theft? No.. TERRORISM- HELL YES..

Pyrex- do your research before coming out with drivel like that.

Chris



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User currently offlineTbar220 From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 7013 posts, RR: 26
Reply 11, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 1728 times:

Quoting Airlinelover (Reply 10):
I DO feel that torture and HARSHER treatment SHOULD be instituted on some prisoners, depending on the crime... Theft? No.. TERRORISM- HELL YES..

Alberto Gonzalez, meet Airlinelover...



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User currently offlineBackfire From Germany, joined Oct 2006, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 1714 times:

Quoting CaptOveur (Reply 1):
Don't you just love scape goats?

"I was only following orders"?

Didn't work at Nuremberg, don't see why it should work here.


User currently offlinePyrex From Portugal, joined Aug 2005, 4008 posts, RR: 28
Reply 13, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 1706 times:

I don't even know what a N00B is, but somehow I don't think I want to.

What is so funny in here is your hollier-than-thou attitude about the Geneva Convention (the "poor us, we're the only ones playing by the rules" drivel).

Newsflash for you: no country, ever since that piece of paper was signed, has ever followed the Geneva Convention. You can argue that there are different levels of infringment but you cannot state that you're the only ones following it, or even that you are the only ones who ever tried.

Just because some of your prisons are crap that doesn't mean alleged (boy, I hate that word) terrorists should get worst. And by the way, most of the people who enter Abu Ghraib or Guantanamo get out without any conviction (and ocasionally in a body bag).

Please, don't pretend like your the offended virgin, it doesn't suit you. It may be debatable if ferrying suspects for torture-friendly, freedom-unfriendly countries is correct but if what your doing in Gitmo is so correct why does it have to be done in No Man's Land away from the jurisdiction of every Court in the world?



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User currently offlineThumper3181 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 1701 times:

This is all much ado about nothing. The shame is that she is being made a scapegoat. I really don’t care what goes on in Abu Garib or Gitmo. They are not insurgents or freedom fighters. They where not locked up for shooting spitballs. These are mass murderers we are talking about.

Are we fighting a war on terror or aren't we? Was it or was it not
started by Islamic people who brought it to our shores on September 11,
2001?

Were people from all over the world, mostly Americans, not brutally
murdered that day, in downtown Manhattan, across the Potomac from our
nation's capitol and in a field in Pennsylvania?

Did nearly three thousand men, women and children die a horrible,
burning or crushing death that day, or didn't they?

And I'm supposed to care that a copy of the Koran was "desecrated" when
an overworked American soldier kicked it or got it wet?

Well, I don't. I don't care at all.

I'll start caring when Osama bin Laden turns himself in and repents for
incinerating all those innocent people on 9/11.

I'll care about the Koran when the fanatics in the Middle East start
caring about the Holy Bible, the mere possession of which is a crime in
Saudi Arabia.

I'll care when Abu Musab al-Zarqawi tells the world he is sorry for
hacking off Nick Berg's head while Berg screamed through his gurgling,
slashed throat.

I'll care when the cowardly so-called "insurgents" in Iraq come out and
fight like men instead of disrespecting their own religion by hiding in
mosques.

I'll care when the mindless zealots who blow themselves up in search of
nirvana care about the innocent children within range of their suicide
bombs.

I'll care when the American media stops pretending that their First
Amendment liberties are somehow derived from international law instead
of the United States Constitution's Bill of Rights.

In the meantime, when I hear a story about a brave marine roughing up an
Iraqi terrorist to obtain information, know this: I don't care.

When I see a fuzzy photo of a pile of naked Iraqi prisoners who have
been humiliated in what amounts to a college hazing incident, rest
assured that I don't care.

When I see a wounded terrorist get shot in the head when he is told not
to move because he might be booby-trapped, you can take it to the bank
that I don't care.

When I hear that a prisoner, who was issued a Koran and a prayer mat,
and fed "special" food that is paid for by my tax dollars, is
complaining that his holy book is being "mishandled," you can absolutely
believe in your heart of hearts that I don't care.

By Pam Foster


User currently offlineJeepBoy From Australia, joined Jul 2004, 260 posts, RR: 1
Reply 15, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 1686 times:

Quoting Thumper3181 (Reply 14):
By Pam Foster

A true patriot if ever there was..

jb

mame a mime



*yay*
User currently offlineThumper3181 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 1679 times:

Patriotism has nothing to do with it Jeepboy.

1. This is much ado about nothing. Torture and cohersion are two different things. There are High School Footbal teams and Fraternaties that do worse than what she did.

2. The prisoners are not POWs. Many of them have/had information that could result in innocent civilians and coalition soldiers getting killed. If someone has to humiliate one of these murderers so that they may get information that will save innocent lives I am all for the humiliation taking place.


User currently offlineDavid b. From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 3148 posts, RR: 5
Reply 17, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 1670 times:

You don't care about your priests raping little boys either do you. Rest assure you don't care.


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User currently offlineCfalk From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 1659 times:

Quoting AeroWesty (Thread starter):
I wonder what the conditions are in the brig these days?

I'll make a wager she gets pregnant again in jail.

She's a good poster child for forced sterilization.


User currently offlineStall From Switzerland, joined Apr 2004, 257 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 22 hours ago) and read 1645 times:

Quoting Thumper3181 (Reply 14):
These are mass murderers we are talking about

Bring forward solid evidences !

Quoting Thumper3181 (Reply 14):
Were people from all over the world, mostly Americans, not brutally
murdered that day, in downtown Manhattan, across the Potomac from our
nation's capitol and in a field in Pennsylvania?

True but other nations has gone through terrorist attack but these nations didn't create prisons where civilian laws were systematicaly breached.

Quoting Thumper3181 (Reply 14):
When I see a fuzzy photo of a pile of naked Iraqi prisoners who have
been humiliated in what amounts to a college hazing incident, rest
assured that I don't care.

This exact attitude toward muslam prisoners will create the 'terrorist/ freedom fighter' (depending on which side you are) that will hit back the USA

Quoting Thumper3181 (Reply 16):
The prisoners are not POWs

If they aren't POW they are civilians, if they are civilians they have got rights.



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User currently offlineThumper3181 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 17 hours ago) and read 1625 times:

Sorry Stall, but these are not common criminals we are dealing with. They where for the most part captured on the battlefield, armed and in civilian clothes. They where either shooting at our soldiers or attempting to murder innocent civilians. By their actions they are neither criminals or POWs. In Afghanistan and Iraq their very actions in the situations that they where in on the battlefield is solid evidence enough for them to be held as they are.

"True but other nations has gone through terrorist attack but these nations didn't create prisons where civilian laws were systematicaly breached."

And they continue to do so. Perhaps it is time to stop treating terrorists as civilians.

"This exact attitude toward muslam prisoners will create the 'terrorist/ freedom fighter' (depending on which side you are) that will hit back the USA"

Then you are a fool if you truly believe this. The muslim terrorists have been murdering and blowing up things long before anyone heard of Abu or Gitmo. If anything the one thing they do understand is force.

"If they aren't POW they are civilians, if they are civilians they have got rights."

See first paragraph. By their very actions they are neither. In fact not being POWs is actually good for them since according to international law, armed soldiers caught out of uniform are spies, and spies can be legally executed according to international law..


User currently offlineFalcon84 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 17 hours ago) and read 1617 times:

Quoting Airlinelover (Reply 10):
I DO feel that torture and HARSHER treatment SHOULD be instituted on some prisoners, depending on the crime... Theft? No.. TERRORISM- HELL YES..

You let your emotins run free Chris. Two considerations-and you're not considering them:

1. If we stoop to such degrading behavior, how are we any better than these terrorist you scream about? Aren't we SUPPOSED TO BE BETTER, and represent something better, than those scumbags?

2. You do that, and in any combat situation, be it aganst another nation or terrorists, it's open torture season on American servicemen and women.

So for you to advocate torture against ANYONE is barbarianism, and only makes US look worse. So no to both.

Quoting Airlinelover (Reply 10):
I guess in Portugal you don't have access to some of the reports we do in the states describing how much better a lot of the terrorist prisoners have it then a lot of law-abiding US citizens...

We don't get those reports either-not with our ultra-secret "elected government" hiding everything they do from the American people.

Quoting Thumper3181 (Reply 14):
Were people from all over the world, mostly Americans, not brutally
murdered that day, in downtown Manhattan, across the Potomac from our
nation's capitol and in a field in Pennsylvania?

And so you want to stoop to their level? Welcome to the Neanderthal age, Thumper. You're taking us back 10 steps, and such barbarianism cannot be condoned, whether done by Al Qaeda or the United States Armed Forces dude. Take such garbage to another nation, got it?

Quoting Thumper3181 (Reply 14):
And I'm supposed to care that a copy of the Koran was "desecrated" when
an overworked American soldier kicked it or got it wet?

Well, I don't. I don't care at all.

And that makes you an out-and-out racist, and, in my mind, as barbaric as those in Al Qaeda. We should care when a holy book, whether we are religious or not, is desecrated on purpose, because it only invites reprisals.

This caveman garbage that you promote is just sickening, dude, and it makes us, with what you want to do, no better than those who we're fighting. It actually makes us worse, because we supposedly know better.


User currently offlineStall From Switzerland, joined Apr 2004, 257 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 16 hours ago) and read 1610 times:

Quoting Thumper3181 (Reply 20):
They where for the most part captured on the battlefield, armed and in civilian clothes. They where either shooting at our soldiers or attempting to murder innocent civilians.

Captured on a battlefield? On a battlefield there are only two categories: Soldiers or civilians. That's what I have been taught during my army time.
Maybe you could suggest a third category is defined in international law.
BTW could give us your definition of a terrorist. Because from what you said 'they were shooting at our soldiers' I have to consider that all civilians that fought against german troop during WWII in europe were terrorist. In fact they weren't.

Quoting Thumper3181 (Reply 20):
Perhaps it is time to stop treating terrorists as civilians.

So they are soldier ? To which army do they belong ? To which gouvernement/ head of state do they obey ?

Quoting Thumper3181 (Reply 20):
If anything the one thing they do understand is force.

Give me one example where force (alone) solved definitly a terrorist problem.



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User currently offlineThumper3181 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 23, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 16 hours ago) and read 1606 times:

Me - "Were people from all over the world, mostly Americans, not brutally
murdered that day, in downtown Manhattan, across the Potomac from our
nation's capitol and in a field in Pennsylvania?"

you "And so you want to stoop to their level?"

How do you compare detaining someone under adverse conditions after they have been caught committing or planning to commit terrorist acts that if successful would kill innocent people with the premeditated murder of close to 3000 people? The two don't come close so no we are not and I do not want to stoop to their level. When you catch me writing that I think we should start deliberately targeting innocent civilians then and only then can you accuse me of stooping to their level.

You sure do have some strange and inconsistent morals. We do know better. That is why you do not see people being hung by cranes, beheaded, burned, electric shocked, etc. We do know better that is why you do not see us picking targets for maximum civilian casualties.

Fact is it is people like you who do not know better. You confuse fact with fiction and have no sense of right and wrong. Your idea is to treat this all as a minor crime is in fact disgusting. Your defense of these bastards borders on criminal since it gives them a sense of hope that perhaps we will back off if only they hold out a bit longer.

I do not expect you to get it since people like you rarely do but we can always try.


User currently offlineFalcon84 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 16 hours ago) and read 1600 times:

Quoting Thumper3181 (Reply 23):
How do you compare detaining someone under adverse conditions after they have been caught committing or planning to commit terrorist acts that if successful would kill innocent people with the premeditated murder of close to 3000 people?

Because both are acts of barbarians, not human beings, which I for one am the race I subscribe to-I don't know about you.

You stoop to the level of hate, evil and the like, you're not better off than those you claim to hate so much.

Quoting Thumper3181 (Reply 23):
You sure do have some strange and inconsistent morals.

Not strange nor inconsistent. If you treat another human being in a manner that involved torture, then you're no better in my eyes than those who kill or maim innocent human beings. You belong to the same sub-culture of barbarianism.

Quoting Thumper3181 (Reply 23):
Fact is it is people like you who do not know better.

I do know better, and do do you I suspect. But you claim you don't so you can foster your hatred on others, and try to clear your conscience at the same time.


25 ZRH : That is exactly what the Nazis and Stalin did. I don't know what you consider yourself? Nazi or Communist? Ok, it is the same. Torture is NO option f
26 Thumper3181 : You are right Falcon. Instead of playing loud music and making them wear panties on their heads or having them march around naked in order to get them
27 Mrniji : I am against the death penalty.. but if someone decided to hang this bitch, I would remain silent...
28 Thumper3181 : "I am against the death penalty.. but if someone decided to hang this bitch, I would remain silent..." Sure freak out because she harassed some prison
29 Falcon84 : Bullshit. You're the one condoning torture, not I. And funny, tell my why Ms. England was found guilty, if these aren't bad things, Thumper? They are
30 Thumper3181 : See Falcon your problem is that you do not read. Show me where I said I condone torture? Show me where she was sent to jail for torturing prisoners. O
31 ZRH : These people are most probably no terrorists but prisoners of war.
32 Falcon84 : Bullshit. She was sentenced for violating the code of conduct of her branch of the service. She was sacrificed to keep the ass of some brass from fac
33 Thumper3181 : "It absolutely is. You're whole thought-process on this discussion is filled with fear." First you put words in my mouth, now you profess to know what
34 Falcon84 : I just call them as I see them, and from what I read, I think you 1. Condon torture, and 2. Your view comes out of fear of what happened on 9/11. Sor
35 GDB : Thumper1381, go find one of those bunkers built in the Cold War, some must be for sale. Go live there, live life without fear, be happy. Cos from what
36 Thumper3181 : Fair enough Falcon. You are entitled to your subjective interpretation of me. Let me give you my interpretation of you not based on what I think of yo
37 Falcon84 : One difference between you and me, Thumper, boy: I don't give a shit what you think about me, whereas you obviously let what I say bug the hell out of
38 KLMcedric : Thumper 3181, I don't agree with your point of view, but I could more easily respect your opinion if this kind of abuse had been done on proven 9/11 t
39 Thumper3181 : GDB how is my attitude victory? What is your attitude about it. Shall we start writing parking tickets to Osama bin Laden? Tell me? What should we do.
40 Thumper3181 : KLM what makes you so sure they where not terrorists at abu garib? Why did they get locked up in the first place? Could it be that someone had some pr
41 Post contains images ANCFlyer : She screwed up, she was not alone, as Redngold demonstrated quite well in the other thread, same subject, but regardless, she screwed up. If she was
42 Thumper3181 : Falcon Have the last word. It's not true but have it anyway. Next time try debating what is actually being written.
43 ZRH : Either you don't read the other posts or you don't get the point at all. We are NOT talking about terrorists. These totured men are prisoners of war,
44 Falcon84 : These weren't terrorists, friend, they were armed combatants in a war zone. They should have been treated accordingly, not cattle, as you obviously c
45 Falcon84 : Oh, just the stories that were put out in the media when it happened. But then again, sounds like facts don't concern you much.
46 Post contains images Dvk :
47 ANCFlyer : I'm not sure I agree totally with this comment my friend . . . . what's the difference between terrorists in a war zone and armed combatants in a war
48 ZRH : It seams that for Thumper3181 everybody who fights an US soldier is a terrorist. But these men were Iraqi soldiers who fought against a foreign army w
49 BHXFAOTIPYYC : - Gitmo residents were not soldiers, or freedom fighters they were terrorists or trainee terrorists. Where the US is wrong is not trying these people.
50 Pyrex : To everyone that still alleges sleep depravation is not torture I suggest a stay at a nice little hotel in Rua António Maria Cardoso in Lisbon, Portu
51 Thumper3181 : “If she was only person being punished your comment here might hold water. Since she is not, it's redflag all the way.” I fail to see your logic,
52 Post contains links ANCFlyer : Not surprised . . . . Bottom line, in plain, non-vulcan english, she was not a scapegoat. Damn, I saw the pictures. Whatever else she may be, however
53 Flyboy36y : In many circumstances, under our law, a CEO can be held strictly liable for the actions of his employees. Why not the Commander-in-Cheif of his emplo
54 Thumper3181 : Here you go in plain english. I saw the pictures. It's not abuse it's not torture it's hazing and as such is nothing worse than that which goes on in
55 Post contains images ANCFlyer : Bwaaaa Haaa Haaa . . . How very, very, very, frickin' WRONG you are . . . I think this war is just all the way! I can see a dozen A-Netters laughing
56 Post contains images Falcon84 : Well, those who tried and convicted her, and who's judgement I'll trust a LOT more than yours, says it is, and I think it is too, so there. Jesus, bu
57 Post contains images AeroWesty : OMFG! I looked, but there's not an icon for "Lost a lung laffing" (!!!) Thumper, allow me to clarify something for you, there are MANY whom Yosemite
58 Post contains images Falcon84 : ANCFlyer, I'll give you time to take in some oxygen before responding to my last post on here.
59 ZRH : This war is not just at all, it is illigal. There is no sense in it, it only brought Iraq into a civil war, there will be no peace for many years. Th
60 Post contains images ANCFlyer : And pick up my chair . . . And wipe the tears outta my eyes . . . ANCFlyer = Yosemite Sam in the AeroWesty Dictionary You gotta quit wasting good boo
61 AeroWesty : LOL! I'm getting scared that my epitaph will turn out to be "A.net made me a cheap drunk."
62 Thumper3181 : My bad I should have checked your profile. Your derision is justified. That said you must admit that there are many who due to their hostility toward
63 Post contains images AeroWesty : You'll fit in nicely here.
64 Post contains images ANCFlyer : Absolutely, positively yes. Stick around a while, you'll be able to pick them out at a moments notice. I will assure you, however, that the gents abo
65 JAGflyer : England and rest of her friends who insist on using prisoners for their enjoyment are a disgrace to the US Army. Soliders are not there to play games
66 GDB : Thumper, since you asked, I was on the London bus and underground services the day after the 7th July bombs. The attitude is to get on with life, not
67 ME AVN FAN : which is complete nonsense. Most countries in fact follow those conventions, the exceptions are those who catch the headlines there is no reason to f
68 11Bravo : That's absolutely correct, but you have done just the opposite here by failing to objectively consider the actions of England and the other Abu Ghrai
69 GDB : Consider also that after the Abu-Garib scandal broke, insurgent activity increased dramatically, small wonder as the whole world got to see what went
70 Redngold : I posted the initial Chain of Command and then continued editing just in case my computer froze or my internet connection dropped. Rumsfeld is now in
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