BCAInfoSys From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 1868 times:
I woke up this morning to see a flurry of e-mails.. campus is a-buzz about what happened yesterday. Apparently there was a tragic accident yesterday where 7 of my fellow students, and an professor from my school, Utah State University (USU), were killed just west of here. The area they were travelling in is pretty rural, one of those areas where passing slow moving vehicles such as tractors and what not is pretty common. Well apparently they were passing a slow moviing vehicle at a decent rate of speed and a rear tire blew out, causing the van to roll.
I did not know any of them personally, but a few of them were familiar faces that I had seen around campus.. they will be missed.
BCAInfoSys From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 3, posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 1818 times:
I appreciate the gesture guys. But your thoughts don't need to be with me, I haven't lost anything. I told you I didn't know them personally. Just thought you'd want to be aware of a tragedy that is going to be a big part of my life as campus deals with this..
LTBEWR From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 12679 posts, RR: 13 Reply 4, posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 1759 times:
This horrible accident got coverage on all of the national TV news channels and programs this morning. Apparently the vehicle had some type of tire failure, went off the edge of the road and rolled several times, throwing people out of the vehicle. The drivers side rear wheel appeared to be not on it's wheel. It appeared to be a late model Dodge heavy duty extended passanger van, a type of vehicle that is very suseptable from tire failures to bad accidents. One cop there said that several of the pax were thrown out of the vehicle and was a terrible scene. I am quite sure that this will be a very depressing and sobering situation at your campus. The loss of 8 in a group of a couple thousand community is not easy to deal with. Then there is the losses to the families involved, and our symphaty goes to them.
DL021 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 11443 posts, RR: 78 Reply 5, posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 1753 times:
Steve.....an event like that, even if you don't know the people involved can still hit close to home, since you are thinking about how that could have been you.
Do a couple of things.......take the opportunity to remember all the good reasons to be careful on the roads, periodically look at the vehicle to make sure it's safe, and then remember that no matter what you do....if it's really your time then you ain't gonna stop fate, so make the most of your life while you have it.
Chip in a couple of bucks to the memorial scholarship that is bound to come up. Make the suggestion if no one else has. Some good has to come from this.
Racko From Germany, joined Nov 2001, 4853 posts, RR: 20 Reply 6, posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 1745 times:
How the hell can they be thrown out of the car? Either there is a serious problem with the seat belts on this model, or they didn't wear them, because simple multiple rollovers can't throw you out of the car if you wear seatbelts.
BCAInfoSys From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 8, posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 1693 times:
One of the hardest parts about this... several of the guys were young-married. Now their brides in their young-twenties are widows. Can you imagine losing a spouse so young?
Ian.. thanks for the good input. I'll be sure to do it. It was really weird this morning to walk through campus.. there was a very sober air to the place. I came into Marketing this morning for the exam and my prof just stood there, leaning over the podium with his hand on his chin. You could tell he took it pretty hard.
Not to mention, all of the news vans/reporters don't make it any easier.. damn vultures...
ME AVN FAN From Switzerland, joined May 2002, 13877 posts, RR: 26 Reply 10, posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 1652 times:
Well, even if you did NOT know them personally, I think that the news landed in your university like a bomb, and that everybody feels shaken. Suggest that you "deposit" a condolences-card with the text "condolences from many people on airliners.net discussion forum". Condolences do NOT make people alive again, but gives the "survivors" a bit of a feeling to be understood by outsiders, and the feeling that others also are thinking about it .
Ctbarnes From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 3491 posts, RR: 51 Reply 11, posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 1639 times:
Quoting BCAInfoSys (Reply 8): One of the hardest parts about this... several of the guys were young-married. Now their brides in their young-twenties are widows. Can you imagine losing a spouse so young?
Will there be any kind of remembrance service for them on campus? Even on a secular campus it's a good idea for people to come together and share their sorrow. It does not need to be overtly religious, but the act of coming together can be quite healing.
The customer isn't a moron, she is your wife -David Ogilvy
while if they HAD done the belts, they possibly would have died INSIDE the van. Such things are rather speculation. What I DISlike about those policemen is that they always try to fix everything onto what they perceive as THE weak spot. While basically a tyre has NOT to explode enroute.
Racko From Germany, joined Nov 2001, 4853 posts, RR: 20 Reply 14, posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 1569 times:
From what I heard until now, the car did only roll over, not crash INTO anything at a high speed. In that case, seat belts would have saved 8 lifes. Actually roll-over accidents look more spectacular than they are, as long as your seat belts are fastened and you don't drive a crappy-built car (Landwind.. ) that has its roof collapse upon rollover, you are quite save. And especially vans that are more likely to roll over have at least here have to be certified that their A and C pillar have to withstand multiple rollovers.
The tyre blowing...well, could be a malfunction, or could be caused by the using them outside their specification. A colleague of mine had his tyre explode because he drove R-rated tyres at over 200km/h.
Redngold From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 6907 posts, RR: 47 Reply 16, posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days ago) and read 1522 times:
Even though you didn't know them, it's going to impact you in one way or another since they were at your school. Give yourself time to mourn, even if it's not as deep mourning as those who knew them better. If you participate in vigils or memorial services, you will not feel as alone.
BCAInfoSys From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 17, posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days ago) and read 1520 times:
Just heard the news.. the death count has risen to 9. Another student died in the hospital..Justin Huggins, 21, of Bear River (Idaho or Utah, I'm not sure).
What a tragedy.. 9 lives. Though it appears to be the professor's (driver's) fault. Apparently he was driving a little bit more aggressively then the situation warranted. I'm just waiting for the lawsuits to start coming into the university..
TNboy From Australia, joined Mar 2002, 1131 posts, RR: 20 Reply 22, posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 1383 times:
Quoting BCAInfoSys (Reply 8): Not to mention, all of the news vans/reporters don't make it any easier.. damn vultures...
Yes, that must have been upsetting. Its a hard call isn't it? The media have a job to do, and are sent to get graphic footage or emotional quotes/interviews. It amazes me that they always succeed. Until people start to say "Ferk off, I'm not going to give you the satisfaction of crying on camera just to make your news service look good", they will continue to do so. But I guess, when you have a microphone and a camera in your face, and someone asks a question, the natural impulse is to answer it. But sometimes we need to remember that we don't HAVE to say anything if we dont want to.
Bezoar From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 805 posts, RR: 9 Reply 23, posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 1330 times:
Sorry to hear about the tragedy. Their families have been dealt a difficult blow.
Extended passenger vans have been under great scrutiny due to their increased rollover risk. Our church no longer can use the rear the van for individuals or luggage, and will probably have to phase them out entirely. Insurance companies do not like them, and some won't cover them at all.
"There are none so blind as those who will not see."
Kevi747 From United States of America, joined Apr 2001, 1057 posts, RR: 13 Reply 24, posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 1315 times:
Quoting BCAInfoSys (Thread starter): Apparently there was a tragic accident yesterday where 7 of my fellow students, and an professor from my school, Utah State University (USU), were killed just west of here.
Yeah, that's too bad.
"Reality has a well-known liberal bias." --Stephen Colbert
25 ScarletHarlot: Glad you posted, Sir Stevie. I had a few minutes of horror when I heard the news and heard that one guy was from the Seattle area and I realized that
26 FlyMIA: Exactly. Thats what I thought. It is a horrible tradgedy but all should have been wearing there seatbelts. A rollover with people flying out of the c