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The Bush Administration Presents The War On Porno  
User currently offlineGarnetpalmetto From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 5358 posts, RR: 53
Posted (8 years 10 months 7 hours ago) and read 2642 times:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...le/2005/09/19/AR2005091901570.html

And I used to think the Republican party was about minimal governmental intrusion into one's life. Oops. I forgot. They sold out to the Christian right.


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User currently onlineAeroWesty From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 20354 posts, RR: 62
Reply 1, posted (8 years 10 months 7 hours ago) and read 2622 times:

In the same vein:

Attorney General To Piss On Constitution Yet Again (by Killjoy Sep 25 2005 in Non Aviation)



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User currently offlineANCFlyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (8 years 10 months 7 hours ago) and read 2612 times:

I'm all for the most severe punishment for child pornographers - but other than that - it's a waste. Don't we have some real bad guys to go after - not some schmuck sitting on his couching yanking his meat to Debbie Does Dallas?

Worthless effort.


User currently offlineFlyVirgin744 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 1313 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (8 years 10 months 7 hours ago) and read 2601 times:

Can someone please explain what legal basis the FBI has to incriminate? I fail to see what laws are being broken.

Thanks



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User currently onlineAeroWesty From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 20354 posts, RR: 62
Reply 4, posted (8 years 10 months 7 hours ago) and read 2588 times:

Quoting FlyVirgin744 (Reply 3):
Can someone please explain what legal basis the FBI has to incriminate? I fail to see what laws are being broken.

The main aspects of the involvement of the FBI are to enforce the Child Online Protection Act to prevent websites from distributing materials harmful to minors (different than from distributing child pornography)--so websites would be checked to make sure indecent material couldn't be viewed without an age verification, to insure "models" are of age, even in productions that are not obviously child pornography (see: Traci Lords), and also to monitor violations of decency acts in interstate commerce, along with other federal laws.



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User currently offlineFalcon84 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (8 years 10 months 7 hours ago) and read 2581 times:

Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 2):
Don't we have some real bad guys to go after

Yeah-Tom Delay and Bill Frist come to mind.  Big grin


User currently offlineB744F From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (8 years 10 months 7 hours ago) and read 2578 times:

As usual the right forces their moral values on the entire population

It's a good thing terrorism and other crimes are at all time lows, the FBI agents must have been bored with nothing else to do


User currently offlineTheCoz From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (8 years 10 months 7 hours ago) and read 2571 times:

Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 2):
I'm all for the most severe punishment for child pornographers

Exactly, he should really be focusing ALL of the energy toward that alone.




Bush is doing what China wants to do: censor information on the Internet. He needs to keep it strictly to enforcing what is already illegal. Enforcing anything else?...all I say is...have fun wasting more of my money!  bouncy 




screw it.


User currently offlineTUNisia From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 1844 posts, RR: 5
Reply 8, posted (8 years 10 months 7 hours ago) and read 2564 times:

Too many laws in this country. How about we start repealing some of them for a start? When the hell has that ever happened?


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User currently offlineTPASXM787 From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 1730 posts, RR: 20
Reply 9, posted (8 years 10 months 6 hours ago) and read 2561 times:

They can't take away my porn!!

Then what do I do when the girlfriend isn't around?

F*ck you Bush for trying to take away my porn.  Wink



This is the Last Stop.
User currently onlineAeroWesty From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 20354 posts, RR: 62
Reply 10, posted (8 years 10 months 6 hours ago) and read 2539 times:

This really isn't anything to get all worked up over. The government isn't going to shut down the entire porn industry with just a half dozen investigators. All they're doing is looking to set a few examples, and they'll be done with it.

A case in point, when I moved a few years ago, my new phone number was one digit off from a fax machine for a nationwide chain of daycare centers. Every now and then I'd get calls with a fax tone, and while bothersome, I just hung up. When I got caller ID I could see where it was from, and I asked the company to tell their centers to use the right number, but I was just blown off and told to change my number.

When I got a fax modem, my computer started receiving the faxes. What I saw was horrifying to say the least. The documents contained SS#'s, the names of minors and their parents, which schools they attended, where their parents worked, addresses and phone numbers for where they were at what hours, public assistance information, etc. Everything someone who would want to prey on children would relish. Further calls to the company were blown off, until I started sending blacked-out copies of the faxes to state agencies by certified mail. Within a week I got a call from the FTC by a woman who explained this was exactly the kind of situation they'd been looking for and took my statement. I never got another fax from one of their centers again.

I suspect that once the FBI cracks down on a couple of websites and interstate mailers, they'll put their resources somewhere else.



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User currently offlineLHMark From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 7255 posts, RR: 47
Reply 11, posted (8 years 10 months 6 hours ago) and read 2510 times:

Great. There goes my sex life.

Signed, 95% of A.net



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User currently offlineFalcon84 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (8 years 10 months 5 hours ago) and read 2492 times:

Quoting AeroWesty (Reply 10):
This really isn't anything to get all worked up over. The government isn't going to shut down the entire porn industry with just a half dozen investigators.

I don't think that's the issue here. We have a political party in power, in all 3 branches in D.C., who claims to be for limited government intrusion, yet is trying to go after consenting adults watching consenting adults in filmed sex acts, which is NOT illegal in the vast majority of the country. It's 18th Century, puritanical garbage, being pushed by the zealots on the religious right, and backed by an Administration who, apparently, has more than enough agents to help in the war on terror or in rounding up real criminals.

What's next? The FBI breaking into your house, and catching you getting a blowjob from your wife or girlfriend; or having anal sex with them, and carting you off to prison?

Some of you may laugh, but I'm deadly serious. They're going to try and target people doing NOTHING ILLEGAL! And all to satisfiy a political erection for the religious right? The prospect of this, besides being appallingly absurd, is frightening in the extreme if such zealousness is taken to it's extreme.

And don't bet on the courts granting someone arrested looking at adult porn on the internet. They'll just haul their ass into the most conservative Federal court they can find, and convict them.

This is utter lunacy.


User currently offlineNWA742 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (8 years 10 months 5 hours ago) and read 2467 times:

Quoting Falcon84 (Reply 12):
This is utter lunacy.

Ease up Falcon -- you still have your wife around. It'll be ok.

 Wink



-NWA742


User currently offlineFalcon84 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (8 years 10 months 5 hours ago) and read 2463 times:

Quoting NWA742 (Reply 13):
Ease up Falcon -- you still have your wife around. It'll be ok.

I appreciate the humor, but think about it-put same hard-up (no pun intended) zealot out looking for stuff, who is really safe from this modern-day witch hunt?

Oh, and NWA742, you better not even mention my sexual relationship with my wife if AA61hvy is hanging around-it makes him blush.  Big grin

[Edited 2005-09-28 05:07:00]

User currently offlineANCFlyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (8 years 10 months 5 hours ago) and read 2454 times:

Quoting NWA742 (Reply 13):
Ease up Falcon -- you still have your wife around. It'll be ok.



Quoting Falcon84 (Reply 14):
I appreciate the humor,

 rotfl 


User currently offlineNWA742 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (8 years 10 months 5 hours ago) and read 2446 times:

Quoting Falcon84 (Reply 14):
I appreciate the humor, but think about it-put same hard-up (no pun intended) zealot out looking for stuff, who is really safe from this modern-day witch hunt?

Well if it turns out that nobody's safe in the future, I would design a room in the house like in the movie "Panic Room," you know, completely sealed off, thick steel walls, etc.

Except I would call it The Loving Room. That way if they ever came into my house while we're busy, we could at least finish before letting them in.

 



-NWA742

[Edited 2005-09-28 05:14:13]

User currently onlineAeroWesty From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 20354 posts, RR: 62
Reply 17, posted (8 years 10 months 5 hours ago) and read 2440 times:

Quoting Falcon84 (Reply 12):
I don't think that's the issue here

Sure it is. The FBI has been "investigating" the porn industry for eons. This is nothing new. It's publicity. Pull into the parking lot of any business involved in the industry in Porn Gulch in Chatsworth, and your license number is run and the registered owner's name is entered into a database. Oh, the stories I could tell.



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User currently offlineFalcon84 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (8 years 10 months 5 hours ago) and read 2440 times:

Quoting NWA742 (Reply 16):
Well if it turns out that nobody's safe in the future, I would design a room in the house like in the movie "Panic Room," you know, completely sealed off, thick steel walls, etc.

Except I would call it The Loving Room. That way if they ever came into my house while I was busy, I could at least finish before letting them in.

Gotta make a note of that one.....

 Silly


User currently offlineNWA742 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (8 years 10 months 5 hours ago) and read 2432 times:

I had to change the words in my previous post from "I" to "we're".

It just didn't sound right.

 Embarrassment




-NWA742


User currently offlineFalcon84 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (8 years 10 months 5 hours ago) and read 2427 times:

Quoting NWA742 (Reply 19):
I had to change the words in my previous post from "I" to "we're".

It just didn't sound right.

On here, no one would have noticed, dude.  Big grin


User currently offlineNWA742 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (8 years 10 months 5 hours ago) and read 2417 times:

Quoting Falcon84 (Reply 20):
On here, no one would have noticed, dude.

 rotfl   rotfl   rotfl 

That was excellent!


-NWA742


User currently offlineSeptember11 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 3623 posts, RR: 21
Reply 22, posted (8 years 10 months 5 hours ago) and read 2414 times:

What are professional pornographers' reaction to the article in the link? "No way!"

My reaction: ummmmm . . .

There are tons of pro pornographers who enjoy their jobs very much, to my knowledge. They barely can not stop, that is for sure.

Unfortunately, pornography industry generate BILLION and BILLION of  dollarsign   dollarsign   dollarsign  --- they are even making more money because of today's modernized technology opportunities.

My speculation is that the Bush Administration has grown tired of increased obscene materials available to the general public in the last few years.

If the FBI offers me the job to assist them, I would accept the job. Do not ask me why...



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User currently offlineCaptOveur From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 23, posted (8 years 10 months 4 hours ago) and read 2392 times:

Great.. Take away the one thing in my life that I don't hate.

I will go back to what I have always said if someone wants to run a REASONABLE alternative I will vote for them.


User currently offlineN1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 26357 posts, RR: 76
Reply 24, posted (8 years 10 months 4 hours ago) and read 2379 times:

Quoting CaptOveur (Reply 23):
Great.. Take away the one thing in my life that I don't hate.

I will go back to what I have always said if someone wants to run a REASONABLE alternative I will vote for them.

You, and America, have been given them, and have even voted for them, but the unreasonable outcome keeps happening



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25 CaptOveur : That last retard was not a reasonable alternative.. All he did was talk about a plan that did not exist and fling poo at Bush. Anyone can do that. "B
26 N1120A : As opposed to "...duh...flip flop...duh"?
27 Post contains images CFCUQ : Hmmmm, big brother now wants to censor your viewing... seems U.S. citizens (rights) are being further erroded by zealots, (unless you carry a gun, tha
28 Post contains links STLGph : "PORNOGRAPHY IS A SIN" Porn is not mentioned in the Bible. Remember, photography did not exist when the book was written. Most Fundamentalists, howeve
29 Post contains images ANCFlyer : Let's hope Sheriff Joe isn't his jailer . . . . we knowwwww how mean sheriff Joe is . There are laws against trading narcotics over international bor
30 Post contains images Cfalk : I insist on reviewing all collected evidence personally.
31 S12PPL : I do agree that those who have child porn should be punished to the full extent of the law. However, going after porn in genera??? C'mon...Bush strike
32 Post contains images CFCUQ : ANCFlyer, but who's laws ???? The guy sold seeds from his place in Canada !!!!!!! And to boot, seeds ain't contraband. ( Might have potential to becom
33 ANCFlyer : I know all about hemp and it's history. What you may or may not know about cultivated Cannabis Sativa is the other story. Hemp and Marjiuana are as di
34 Adam : Oh man. Porn keeps me 98% celibate. Without it I'd probably have some STD or 7 kids by now. What I watch on my television in my own room in my own hou
35 CFCUQ : ANCFlyer, yes, please do contact me directly, not so much about this thread, but more about your location, we have some things in common.
36 Post contains images ANCFlyer : I'll do it . . . stand by for incoming! I sent you an IM rather than E-Mail since your e-address is "withheld". . . .   [Edited 2005-09-28 08:06:50
37 Post contains images HAJFlyer : Quote from the article linked above: "The new squad will divert eight agents, a supervisor and assorted support staff to gather evidence against "manu
38 Post contains images Nosedive : And that is different from prison how? The blowjob part? Votes Never took you for a stoner!
39 GDB : Well if it's as successful as the 'war on drugs' I doubt that too many porno merchants are quaking in their boots, maybe putting a down payment on a b
40 Post contains images UTA_flyinghigh : Isn't the US the world's first producer of porn ? UTA
41 Cornish : Oh I wouldn't worry too much. I'm sure the US sex industry has enough juicy dirt on enough influential politicians that they could highlight to ensure
42 LTBEWR : I do agree that I would rather have the FBI have these agents involved with going after terrorists, organized crime or the drug trade rather than go a
43 Lutenist : All this will quickly pass. When enough of the sanctimonious powers-that-be in this matter are exposed for the pornophiles that they are--after all, w
44 TACAA320 : I'm against porn material, but is such action against the first ammendment of The Constitution of The U.S.A.?
45 BHXFAOTIPYYC : Nope, that honour goes to us in the EU. Not only do we have dimwitted national legislation to contend with, we have EC directives pouring out of Brus
46 Post contains links DaddiesSecret : Mind you there are a lot of victims/unhappy people too... http://www.rame.net/faq/deadporn/
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