ANCFlyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 2, posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 2310 times:
I'm all for the most severe punishment for child pornographers - but other than that - it's a waste. Don't we have some real bad guys to go after - not some schmuck sitting on his couching yanking his meat to Debbie Does Dallas?
AeroWesty From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 20322 posts, RR: 64 Reply 4, posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 2286 times:
Quoting FlyVirgin744 (Reply 3): Can someone please explain what legal basis the FBI has to incriminate? I fail to see what laws are being broken.
The main aspects of the involvement of the FBI are to enforce the Child Online Protection Act to prevent websites from distributing materials harmful to minors (different than from distributing child pornography)--so websites would be checked to make sure indecent material couldn't be viewed without an age verification, to insure "models" are of age, even in productions that are not obviously child pornography (see: Traci Lords), and also to monitor violations of decency acts in interstate commerce, along with other federal laws.
TheCoz From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 7, posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 2269 times:
Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 2): I'm all for the most severe punishment for child pornographers
Exactly, he should really be focusing ALL of the energy toward that alone.
Bush is doing what China wants to do: censor information on the Internet. He needs to keep it strictly to enforcing what is already illegal. Enforcing anything else?...all I say is...have fun wasting more of my money!
AeroWesty From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 20322 posts, RR: 64 Reply 10, posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 2237 times:
This really isn't anything to get all worked up over. The government isn't going to shut down the entire porn industry with just a half dozen investigators. All they're doing is looking to set a few examples, and they'll be done with it.
A case in point, when I moved a few years ago, my new phone number was one digit off from a fax machine for a nationwide chain of daycare centers. Every now and then I'd get calls with a fax tone, and while bothersome, I just hung up. When I got caller ID I could see where it was from, and I asked the company to tell their centers to use the right number, but I was just blown off and told to change my number.
When I got a fax modem, my computer started receiving the faxes. What I saw was horrifying to say the least. The documents contained SS#'s, the names of minors and their parents, which schools they attended, where their parents worked, addresses and phone numbers for where they were at what hours, public assistance information, etc. Everything someone who would want to prey on children would relish. Further calls to the company were blown off, until I started sending blacked-out copies of the faxes to state agencies by certified mail. Within a week I got a call from the FTC by a woman who explained this was exactly the kind of situation they'd been looking for and took my statement. I never got another fax from one of their centers again.
I suspect that once the FBI cracks down on a couple of websites and interstate mailers, they'll put their resources somewhere else.
Falcon84 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 12, posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 2190 times:
Quoting AeroWesty (Reply 10): This really isn't anything to get all worked up over. The government isn't going to shut down the entire porn industry with just a half dozen investigators.
I don't think that's the issue here. We have a political party in power, in all 3 branches in D.C., who claims to be for limited government intrusion, yet is trying to go after consenting adults watching consenting adults in filmed sex acts, which is NOT illegal in the vast majority of the country. It's 18th Century, puritanical garbage, being pushed by the zealots on the religious right, and backed by an Administration who, apparently, has more than enough agents to help in the war on terror or in rounding up real criminals.
What's next? The FBI breaking into your house, and catching you getting a blowjob from your wife or girlfriend; or having anal sex with them, and carting you off to prison?
Some of you may laugh, but I'm deadly serious. They're going to try and target people doing NOTHING ILLEGAL! And all to satisfiy a political erection for the religious right? The prospect of this, besides being appallingly absurd, is frightening in the extreme if such zealousness is taken to it's extreme.
And don't bet on the courts granting someone arrested looking at adult porn on the internet. They'll just haul their ass into the most conservative Federal court they can find, and convict them.
Sure it is. The FBI has been "investigating" the porn industry for eons. This is nothing new. It's publicity. Pull into the parking lot of any business involved in the industry in Porn Gulch in Chatsworth, and your license number is run and the registered owner's name is entered into a database. Oh, the stories I could tell.
Falcon84 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 18, posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 2138 times:
Quoting NWA742 (Reply 16): Well if it turns out that nobody's safe in the future, I would design a room in the house like in the movie "Panic Room," you know, completely sealed off, thick steel walls, etc.
Except I would call it The Loving Room. That way if they ever came into my house while I was busy, I could at least finish before letting them in.