BSBIsland From Brazil, joined Jul 2005, 361 posts, RR: 1 Posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 1140 times:
I need some advice how to quit smoking, because it´s driving me crazy and I failed many times. I´m 22 and smoke since I´m 18. I used to smoke a pack a day, but now I smoke less. Sometimes I decide to stop, don´t smoke for a day or so and then give up the other day. The most difficult is when I go out to bars and drink, it´s impossible not to smoke, specially seeing a lot of people smoking. In the morning and afternoon it´s ok not to smoke, but in the evenings it´s really difficult.
I´m really anxious and that makes things more difficult. About 2 years ago I tried the Wellbutrin (Zyban) and stopped for a few months, and then I started smoking again, but this time and don´t want to take any medicine (if I can have other options).
How about nicotine patches and chewing gums? Does it really work? Any other "new" thing?
I appreciate any advice, specially from the ex-smokers.
DLPMMM From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 3572 posts, RR: 10
Reply 1, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 1131 times:
After 30+ years of 1-2 packs per day, I quit this year. I used (and still use) the gum. It is more expensive than smoking though. The most imoortant thing is to really decide to quit. The gum will give you a little rush of nicotine to help the will power.
Airbuff From Canada, joined Aug 2005, 140 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 1119 times:
I think its a matter of just being ready. And it is quite normal to fail a few times. Don't be hard on yourself. Even if you stop for 2 days or 2 years or whatever, it's still good. At least you saved some money.
I quit for 2 years and just started again. I did use the patch for about 2 weeks and then I set up a jar and put the money I was saving in it. Seeing that build up was great. I used the money for a trip, but sadly took up smoking shortly after. So I guess I better find that jar, for when I am ready to quit again.
Where am I going, and why am I in this handbasket?
Gilligan From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 1108 times:
After 23 years of smoking I took a drug called (zialaban?). Can't quite remember how to spell it but that is the phonetic pronunciation. You start taking the pills while you keep smoking. Supposed to take 2-3 months but after two weeks I found myself looking at the cigarettes and wondering why I was smoking them. Never did go back for the second or third series of pills and haven't had a single craving in over 5 years.
AsstChiefMark From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 1086 times:
The dozens of people that I personally know who have successfully quit smoking for good have these things in common.
1. They all quit cold turkey.
2. They picked a future date to stop smoking and stuck to it; no postponement for ANY reason.
3. Until that day came, they told their family and friends (support people) of their plans and asked/demanded that they vigilantly help them stick to the plan. They were to be in-your-face truthful and confrontational, if necessary, and to accept no excuses. Successful completion will be rewarded with something big like a trip, new truck, etc.
4. They planned realistic coping mechanisms for the rough times.
5. They planned a positive daily reward for each honest, successful day.
6. When the first no-smoking day came, every last piece of smoking materials were DESTROYED. The pieces were removed from the property by friends. Cigs, lighters, matches, ashtrays, secret stashes; the ashtray and cigerette lighter were removed from vehicles and sent away with friends.
7. The house and cars are thoroughly cleaned on day one.
8. Everyday, they honestly report their good and bad thoughts and actions of that day with their support people and tweeked coping mechanisms, if necessary.
9. The smoker calls a support person ASAP if crazings get too overwhelming.
10. The process may take two weeks. It may take six months.
11. The recovering smoker tends to get a happy, comfortable feeling when the process is over. They report things like, "I just knew I wouldn't smoke again," or "I have no desire to smoke. I haven't had any desire to do so for X days." The reward is relished.
12. The process starts over if there's a SINGLE relapse and after discussing what went wrong with the support people.
MxCtrlr From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 2485 posts, RR: 37
Reply 8, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 1084 times:
If you figure it out, let me know. I've been trying to quit (off and on again) now for a few years (obviously not too successfully).
Quoting Gilligan (Reply 4): After 23 years of smoking I took a drug called (zialaban?).
I believe you are talking about Zyban and, while it has worked for some people, there are also some nasty side effects associated with this. Same goes for Wellbutrin.
I read somewhere, where they are in the process of testing a Smoking Cessation Vaccine, with promising results so far.
Whatever you do choose, stick with it and, if you "fall off the horse" don't get all down on yourself, just get back on it ASAP. Also, when you do successfully quit, make sure you go to your local health food store and start taking Mullin (I think that's the correct spelling). It will aide you lungs in healing from the outside in so that damaged lung tissue does not get trapped under healing tissue.
DAMN! This SUCKS! I just had to go to the next higher age bracket in my profile! :-(
Cxsjr From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 1066 times:
I quit only last week after a real heavy night out on the booze and the usual smoking that goes with it. I woke up the following morning and simply couldn't face my usual cigarette with my cup of tea. That lasted all day. The followig morning, I decided I'd try to go another day without smoking .... today is day 7 and the longer I go, the more determined I am to give up.
One thing I would say - when you're trying to give up and you feel like you want a cigarette, that desire will often overwhelm you, causing you to forgot the reasons you wanted to give up in the first place. If you feel you need to smoke, try not to rush into it, think about it for a minute. Get back on a level and think about your health, your teeth, your breath, how your clothes smell, the cost, etc etc.
Yesterday, I lost my job after 23 years and we all spent the afternoon in the pub. I have to say I was very tempted but just kept thinking about the above and didn't smoke. My colleague thrust a dirty ashtray under my nose at one point - that's good enough reason in itself!
Good luck anyway. Another idea is to read the book The Easy Way to Stop Smoking by Allan Carr - it worked for a friend of mine!
BSBIsland From Brazil, joined Jul 2005, 361 posts, RR: 1
Reply 15, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 981 times:
Guys, I appreciate a lot all your advice, but the point is : It is REALLY difficult. I know that is "if you want, you can", but it´s a bit harder than this, as it is something I´m physically addicted.
Quoting Cxsjr (Reply 10): when you're trying to give up and you feel like you want a cigarette, that desire will often overwhelm you, causing you to forgot the reasons you wanted to give up in the first place
That is exactly what happens, and as I´m not as rational as would like to be, that makes things a bit more difficult, but I think the main thing is, as stated above: don´t touch cigarettes.
The first time I stopped, I was taking Wellbutrin, and I stopped in two or three days, but I´m still concerned about side effects, because they exist, but that time it was way easier to quit.
Quoting AsstChiefMark (Reply 7): They picked a future date to stop smoking and stuck to it; no postponement for ANY reason.
That´s the most difficult part. This week I´m still smoking 2-3 cigarettes a day, and I´ve seen that it won´t make me stop. I have to stop completely. I´m studying for some tests at university and I´m quite anxious and stressed, but I always find an excuse for myself. I think I have to be harder on myself and then I will have success on this.
TPAnx From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 1021 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 969 times:
Co-worker and his wife stopped a couple of weeks ago..they both had
injections of a drug, plus Thorizine (sp?) which was supposed to "soften the landing". It kept them home for a couple of days..but they haven't smoked since..though he says the craving hasn't left. He's eating a lot of hard candy.
Interviewed the inventor of the patch a while back...he echoes earlier posts..you'll quit when you really want to.
My wife and I, sadly, still smoke. We did a program of the stort outlined
by AsstChiefMark..and it worked..for seven weeks. We both started again on the same day..independently...she after root canal surgery, me..after a horrible day at work. But the goal's very worthwhile..and good luck reaching it.
Canuckpaxguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 947 times:
My friend (whom some of you may remember as "the breast") and I decided yesterday on a whim to stop smoking. We were driving home from a wedding and decided it was time. Not next week, not January 1st...but right then and there.
We've decided that over the next three weeks, we can allow ourselves 3 smokes per day on the first week, two smokes on the second week, and then one smoke per day on the last week. "Banking" is not allowed (meaning if I have only 2 today, I can't add that third one to tomorrow's allowance).
It's day two. On day one and today (so far), I had 2 smokes, but only took a few drags before throwing each away.
This is going to be a lot more difficult than I thought. I've smoked since I was was 16. (I am 30 now).
UsAirways16bwi From United States of America, joined May 2004, 1003 posts, RR: 4
Reply 19, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 923 times:
I had my first cigarette in the 7th grade. Back then, it really wasn't a problem. I stopped it after a while cuz I thought it was pointless. Then I started smoking regularly in the 9th grade(and it was really hard cuz I couldn't buy them), I'm 18 now and I've been smoking about a pack a day for about a year and a half and I feel its getting worse. I know its really bad and I wish I could quit. But it is VERY hard.
I think the way to quit smoking is cold turkey. but that is also the most difficult way IMO. I've never tried medication, and I don't want to. I was thinking of getting the gum or patch, but some people say they work, others say they don't...guess i'll have to find out myself someday.