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New Orleans Police Beating Caught On Film  
User currently offlineJalto27R From United States of America, joined May 2004, 857 posts, RR: 14
Posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 2232 times:

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/files/s...o%20Be%20Charged%20After%20Beating

It's a direct link to the video, let me know if it's not working. It looks like the cops got frustrated with a 60-some year old man and started to hit him in the head, while another cop on his horse tried to block the camera from catching it. Completely unacceptable. Any comments?

Mike

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User currently offlineMatt D From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 9502 posts, RR: 47
Reply 1, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 2227 times:

No comment until all the facts and circumstances are known.

User currently offlineTedTAce From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 2227 times:

"This is the news Web site of the Associated Press, its member newspapers and broadcasters. "

Try again..


User currently offlineRedngold From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 6907 posts, RR: 44
Reply 3, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 2222 times:

I think I'm more offended by the policeman hitting the APTN reporter and pushing him over backwards against a car. I suppose, though, if they are already going to press charges against the police officers who beat the drunk man, that it is all right to presume that their actions were unjustified.


redngold
/// who saw people in Cleveland saying "they shot im in the back" about the latest police shooting; later the coroner found powder burns on the hands, indicating the perp had his hand on the gun when it was fired.



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User currently offlineJalto27R From United States of America, joined May 2004, 857 posts, RR: 14
Reply 4, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 2206 times:

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/files/s...7219&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT

Look for the video under "Police to Be Charged After Beating"

Mike


User currently offlineItsjustme From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 2768 posts, RR: 9
Reply 5, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 2204 times:

Way too early for conclusions.

User currently offlineMatt D From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 9502 posts, RR: 47
Reply 6, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 2198 times:

Remember that when a police officer shoots at someone, they are using unneccessary force and brutality. Totally uncalled for in all circumstances. Negotiations. Negotiations. Negotiations.

When a person shoots at a police officer, THAT person is a victim lashing out in response to a hate filled, oppressive, intolerant society. It is an act of self defense on the part of that poor individual who probably had a bad childhood and had his self esteem stunted at some point.

So the cop had it coming.

Unless, of course the shooter was a white male in his 20's or 30's. In which case he's just a criminal.  sarcastic 


User currently offlineNWA742 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 2197 times:

It is too early for conclusions.

However, from what I see, he was resisting arrest, and the officers had to beat him down for it. Never know if a suspect has a gun, needles, or a knife, and they obviously were not taking chances.

And if it turns out that the guy was indeed resisting, then he got what was coming to him. He needed a few smacks on the head.




-NWA742

[Edited 2005-10-10 03:00:10]

User currently offlineAloges From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 8702 posts, RR: 43
Reply 8, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 2191 times:

Quoting Matt D (Reply 6):

You really love a little paranoia, right?



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User currently offlineNWA742 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 2190 times:

Quoting Matt D (Reply 6):
Remember that when a police officer shoots at someone, they are using unneccessary force and brutality. Totally uncalled for in all circumstances. Negotiations. Negotiations. Negotiations.

When a person shoots at a police officer, THAT person is a victim lashing out in response to a hate filled, oppressive, intolerant society. It is an act of self defense on the part of that poor individual who probably had a bad childhood and had his self esteem stunted at some point.

Matt D I know you're being sarcastic, but just reading that makes me sick. Pure hardcore liberalism at its worst.




-NWA742


User currently offlineItsjustme From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 2768 posts, RR: 9
Reply 10, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 2184 times:

Quoting NWA742 (Reply 7):
And if it turns out that the guy was indeed resisting, then he got what was coming to him. He needed a few smacks on the head.

I don't recall where in the force continuum "a few smacks on the head" falls.

From the video I have seen, it's not looking good for the officers. But again, I think it's too early to reach any conclusions.


User currently offlineNWA742 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 2178 times:

Quoting Itsjustme (Reply 10):
I don't recall where in the force continuum "a few smacks on the head" falls.

If it wasn't obvious enough, that was my personal opinion.



-NWA742


User currently offlineSearpqx From Netherlands, joined Jun 2000, 4344 posts, RR: 10
Reply 12, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 2170 times:

Quoting Matt D (Reply 6):
Unless, of course the shooter was a white male in his 20's or 30's. In which case he's just a criminal.

What happened Matt, did you get picked on by minority kids when you were young?

Like everyone else has said, until all the details are known its way to early to pass judgement. I will say that attempting to block a film crew is probablly bad judgement, no matter what the circumstances. At the bare minimum it's going to give the impression that there is something to hide.



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User currently offlineNWA742 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 2165 times:

Quoting Searpqx (Reply 12):
What happened Matt, did you get picked on by minority kids when you were young?

He's just pointing out the double standards of a liberal society.




-NWA742


User currently offlineMDorBust From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 2163 times:

Initial thoughts: That is beyond the neccessary level of force, and the deal with the camera man is completely undefendable.

Second thought: Maybe there is resistence we can't see happening, the deal with the camera man is still undefendable.

Third thought: These guys have been working 12-24 hour shifts four about a month now, they are all going to snap pretty soon.


User currently offlineNWA742 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 2158 times:

Quoting MDorBust (Reply 14):
Third thought: These guys have been working 12-24 hour shifts four about a month now, they are all going to snap pretty soon.

That's a good point to make.

Whenever you have LEOs from all over working in devastated areas week after week, it ain't the best time to test their patience.



-NWA742


User currently offlineSearpqx From Netherlands, joined Jun 2000, 4344 posts, RR: 10
Reply 16, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 2146 times:

Quoting NWA742 (Reply 13):
He's just pointing out the double standards of a liberal society.

And yet, he's the only one that's gone down that road so far.

Quoting MDorBust (Reply 14):
Third thought: These guys have been working 12-24 hour shifts four about a month now, they are all going to snap pretty soon.



Quoting NWA742 (Reply 15):
Whenever you have LEOs from all over working in devastated areas week after week, it ain't the best time to test their patience.

 checkmark  No matter what the full story turns out to be, I'd put money that this is a part of it



"The two most common elements in the universe are Hydrogen and stupidity"
User currently offlineJetjack74 From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 7407 posts, RR: 50
Reply 17, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 2142 times:
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Quoting Jalto27R (Thread starter):
Completely unacceptable. Any comments?

Cue the appropriate song. "Been Caught Stealin"



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User currently offlineBeefstew25 From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 675 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 2105 times:

I've been to NOLA a couple times, and the cops there have always had a short fuse. Bourbon St. is a constant warzone, and those cops have no patience whatsoever.

A couple of my friends and I got jumped by some guys, and we took care of business, and the cops were like, cool, dude, they should not have jumped you.

Battlefield justice if I have ever seen it.



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User currently offlineTedTAce From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 2084 times:

Two words:
Fu¢king Disgraceful.


User currently offlineDragon-wings From United States of America, joined Apr 2001, 3982 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 2079 times:

Here is what was said to the APTN reporter.

(This was taken from a CNN report)
Meanwhile, a fifth officer ordered APTN producer Rich Matthews and the cameraman to stop recording. When Matthews held up his credentials and explained he was working, the officer grabbed the producer, leaned him backward over a car, jabbed him in the stomach and unleashed a profanity-laced tirade.

"I've been here for six weeks trying to keep ... alive. ... Go home!" shouted the officer, who later identified himself as S.M. Smith.

http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/10/09/taped.beatings.ap/index.html



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User currently offlineFlyboy36y From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 3039 posts, RR: 7
Reply 21, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 2059 times:

THe cop why assaulted the AP reporter at the very least sould be suspended for a few days. As for the perp, I don't have much sympathy for him.

User currently offlineAa777jr From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 2054 times:

Saw the video of the cops whooping on the 64 year old man. Made me sick to my stomach regardless of his intoxication. Also saw the cop yelling at the AP reporter and assaulting him with his hand around his collar...also made me sick.

I would fire all cops involved in both videos. Senseless violence that shouldn't be tolerated...I have no sympathy for them. Change careers if you can't handle the heat.


User currently offlineCaptOveur From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 23, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 2054 times:

Quoting Aa777jr (Reply 22):
I would fire all cops involved in both videos. Senseless violence that shouldn't be tolerated...I have no sympathy for them. Change careers if you can't handle the heat.

Learn to think like that at UT Law?

The facts are not all in yet. Remember the Cincy cops who were shown on national news beating the hell out of a 300lb black guy who later died in custody? The part of the video the media refused to show us was that same guy throwing one of the cops through the air and beating the hell out of the other one.


User currently offlineB744F From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 2034 times:

Quoting NWA742 (Reply 9):
Matt D I know you're being sarcastic, but just reading that makes me sick. Pure hardcore liberalism at its worst.

Yes but pure hardcore liberalism does not support such violence and demands explanations for the use of it. I know that may sound horrible to you, but just image somebody trying to act civil.

Quoting MDorBust (Reply 14):
Third thought: These guys have been working 12-24 hour shifts four about a month now, they are all going to snap pretty soon.

Then that person if they cannot handle the stress and pressures of the job should FIND A NEW ONE

That is no excuse to take your anger and stress out on somebody as cops have been known to do. Go find a new line of work, there are plenty of well paying jobs out there, just ask a Conservative and they will agree


25 Itsjustme : In less than 24 hours after the (partial?) video of the incident was made public, 3 NOPD officers have been booked on battery charges and suspended w/
26 MDorBust : I guess you don't support counseling services for officers, mandated rest periods, dangerous precinct rotations, or administrative leave after violen
27 Post contains images ANCFlyer : Well, this isn't the most ignorant thing I've ever read on A-Net but it damn sure its the top 5. Whatever . . . The whole post is so bizarre I ahve t
28 Itsjustme : They've also already been charged with a crime, a decision I believe to be one made in haste. Given the short amount of time that passed from when th
29 ANCFlyer : Katrina not withstanding, I'd almost like to agree with you here, except NOPD and their Bourbon Street detail have a history of "aggressive" policing
30 Greasespot : Ther was a show on the corrupion in the NOPD. NOw i realise it was a tv show and had to be flashy but some of the stories were scary... Such as 7 out
31 Beefstew25 : A buddy of mine that grew up in NOLA was having a keg party in the garden district for his high school graduation. Cops came and broke it up, and took
32 Tom in NO : Cops are on suspension without pay. TV producer decided not to press charges against the cop that assaulted him, however the NOPD is pressing those ch
33 TedTAce : I guess I missed the thread where it was established what hapened to you personally. I have a vague recollection that you did OK considering, but I'm
34 Tom in NO : Not to worry. Our house did fine (two fences and a bunch of roof shingles gone). We live out near MSY, where there was some house flooding in areas,
35 Logan22L : Actually, in fairness to Matt, he was being very sarcastic. Problem is, he probably thinks that all liberals think in the manner that he is parodying
36 ANCFlyer : OK, I'll buy that . . . perhaps I read the post way too early in the morning. I'm glad the City is pressing charges against the officer the roughed u
37 ANCFlyer : More info . . . The subject of this arrest is a retired school teacher . . . he hasn't had a drink in 25 years and was attempting to purchase a pack o
38 Post contains links Aa777jr : http://www.cnn.com/2005/LAW/10/11/taped.beatings/index.html
39 DL021 : I'm guessing you re-read that listening for the irony. Have a cuppa lifer juice and reload. Keep in mind that we can help down the road if there's an
40 Post contains links Usnseallt82 : Seems like the victim doesn't have any problems with the police department as a whole... http://www.cnn.com/2005/LAW/10/11/taped.beatings/index.html I
41 Post contains images Omoo : I think the Justice Department needs to revamp NOPD ! This Police Department has been corrupt for so many years and the Hurricane just exposed what m
42 Okie : Lets see, Corruption in the NOPD NOPD beating up pedestrians NOPD beating up photographers Looking like things are already getting back to normal in N
43 N1120A : They are all known, and this was a complete travesty Man, this is even bad for you. How can someone be so racist? Um, he was a 64 year old man standi
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