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Recent Study: World's Best Cities To Live In!  
User currently offlineBirdwatching From Germany, joined Sep 2003, 3823 posts, RR: 51
Posted (8 years 11 months 4 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 4094 times:

The world's best cities to live in are Melbourne and Vancouver, according to a recent survey by the Economist Intelligence Unit.

(found at http://archives.cnn.com/2002/WORLD/europe/10/04/world.cities/ )

Is your city listed? Do our fellow a.netters from those cities agree?

Here's the full list:

1. (tie) Melbourne, Australia
1. Vancouver, Canada
3. Perth, Australia
4. (tie) Vienna, Austria
4. Toronto, Canada
4. Geneva, Switzerland
4. Zurich, Switzerland
8. (tie) Adelaide, Australia
8. Brisbane, Australia
8. Sydney,Australia
8. Copenhagen, Denmark
8. Dusseldorf, Germany
8. Frankfurt, Germany
8. Oslo, Norway
8. Montreal, Canada
16. (tie) Calgary, Canada
16. Helsinki, Finland
16. Stockholm, Sweden
19. (tie) Berlin, Germany
19. Amsterdam, Netherlands
21. (tie) Tokyo, Japan
21. Osaka, Japan
21. Honolulu, Hawaii
24. (tie) Hamburg, Germany
24. Munich, Germany
24. Auckland, New Zealand
24. Wellington, New Zealand
28. (tie) Brussels, Belgium
28. Reykjavik, Iceland
28. Luxembourg, Luxembourg
28. Boston, Massachusetts
32. (tie) Lyon, France
32. Paris, France
34. (tie) Barcelona, Spain
34. Atlanta, Georgia
34. Chicago, Illinois
34. Lexington, Kentucky
34. Miami, Florida
39. (tie) Cleveland, Ohio
39. Houston, Texas
39. Los Angeles, California
39. Minneapolis, Minnesota
39. Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania
44. (tie) Hong Kong, China
44. Lisbon, Portugal
44. Madrid, Spain
44. London, England
44. San Francisco, California
49. Seattle, Washington
50. (tie) Singapore
50. Manchester, England
52. (tie) Dublin, Ireland
52. New York, New York
54. (tie) Milan, Italy
54. Detroit, Michigan
54. Budapest, Hungary
57. (tie) Prague, Czech Republic
57. Rome, Italy
57. Washington, D.C.
60. Taipei, Taiwan
61. Seoul, South Korea
62. (tie) San Juan, Puerto Rico
62. San Jose, Costa Rica
64. (tie) Athens, Greece
64. Montevideo, Uruguay
66. Santiago, Chile
67. Buenos Aires, Argentina
68. Dubai, UAE
69. (tie) Tel Aviv, Israel
69. Warsaw, Poland
71. (tie) Zagreb, Croatia
71. Abu Dhabi, UAE
73. (tie) Guangzhou, China
73. Shanghai, China
75. (tie) Panama City, Panama
75. Amman, Jordan
77. (tie) Bahrain, Bahrain
77. Beijing, China
77. Shenzhen, China
77. Moscow, Russia
81. Pretoria, South Africa
82. (tie) Rio de Janeiro, Brazil
82. St. Petersburg, Russia
84. Tianjin, China
85. (tie) Sao Paulo, Brazil
85. Kiev, Ukraine
87. (tie) Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia
87. Lima, Peru
87. Istanbul, Turkey
87. Kuwait, Kuwait
87. Tashkent, Uzbekistan
87. Tunis, Tunisia
93. (tie) Quito, Ecuador
93. Johannesburg, South Africa
93. Bucharest, Romania
96. (tie) Asuncion, Paraguay
96. Casablanca, Morocco
98. Bandar Seri Begawan, Brunei
99. (tie) Riyadh, Saudi Arabia
99. Baku, Azerbaijan
101. (tie) Al Khobar, Saudi Arabia
101. Bangkok, Thailand
101. Caracas, Venezuela
101. Tripoli, Libya
105. (tie) Guatemala, Guatemala
105. Mexico City, Mexico
105. Manila, Philippines
105. Jeddah, Saudi Arabia
105. Belgrade, Yugoslavia
105. Harare, Zimbabwe
111. Cairo, Egypt
112. Libreville, Gabon
113. Colombo, Sri Lanka
114. Douala, Cameroon
115. (tie) Hanoi, Vietnam
115. Bogota, Colombia
115. Nairobi, Kenya
118. Ho Chi Minh, Vietnam
119. (tie) Jakarta, Indonesia
119. Tehran, Iran
121. New Delhi, India
122. Dakar, Senegal
123. Abidjan, Ivory Coast
124. Mumbai, India
125. Algiers, Algeria
126. Phnom Penh, Cambodia
127. (tie) Dhaka, Bangladesh
127. Lagos, Nigeria
129. Karachi, Pakistan
130. Port Moresby, Papua New Guinea


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User currently offlineCXA330300 From South Africa, joined May 2004, 1563 posts, RR: 2
Reply 1, posted (8 years 11 months 4 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 4006 times:

WHAT??? NO CAPE TOWN???

Jozies did better than I thought.

Totally agree with Vancouver being #1



The sky is the limit as long as you can stay there
User currently offlineAloges From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 8707 posts, RR: 43
Reply 2, posted (8 years 11 months 4 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 3973 times:

And what will happen if I want to live in a city with less than a million inhabitants?  scratchchin 


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User currently offlineNoUFO From Germany, joined Apr 2001, 7958 posts, RR: 12
Reply 3, posted (8 years 11 months 4 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 3956 times:

Dusseldorf ranks 8th? 180 perhaps .... or a tie with Karachi, Pakistan.


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User currently offlineAGC525 From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 989 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (8 years 11 months 4 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 3942 times:

As a Pittsburgher I find it strange we're at 39.


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User currently offlineAndreas From Germany, joined Oct 2001, 6104 posts, RR: 31
Reply 5, posted (8 years 11 months 4 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 3939 times:

Quoting Aloges (Reply 2):
if I want to live in a city with less than a million inhabitants?

There are dozens of cities below the 1 mn. line: Pick Düsseldorf or Amsterdam or Frankfurt.....Now if you want to live in a cowshack, that is somewhat different, I agree.  Wink



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User currently offlineACDC8 From Canada, joined Mar 2005, 7642 posts, RR: 35
Reply 6, posted (8 years 11 months 4 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 3888 times:

Quoting Birdwatching (Thread starter):
1. (tie) Melbourne, Australia
1. Vancouver, Canada

I haven't been to Melbourne yet, but Vancouver defienetly deserves this ...  Smile

Quoting Birdwatching (Thread starter):
8. Dusseldorf, Germany
8. Frankfurt, Germany

Wouldn't be my choice.

Quoting Birdwatching (Thread starter):
16. (tie) Calgary, Canada

Cowtown? What are they doing in this list?  rotfl 



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User currently offlineMir From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 21654 posts, RR: 55
Reply 7, posted (8 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 3845 times:

Minneapolis and Pittsburgh ahead of New York?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?  gnasher 

I'd argue that NYC should be in front of Boston and LA too, but I can see that those two have a case. But MSP and PIT?

Surely they jest.

-Mir



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User currently offlineSearpqx From Netherlands, joined Jun 2000, 4344 posts, RR: 10
Reply 8, posted (8 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 3837 times:

I'd put Seattle and San Francisco above Los Angeles, Pittsburgh, Atlanta, etc., but in comparison to the other int'l cities, I really can't argue. Vancouver definitely belongs at the top.


"The two most common elements in the universe are Hydrogen and stupidity"
User currently offlineLFutia From Netherlands, joined Dec 2002, 3339 posts, RR: 27
Reply 9, posted (8 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 3828 times:

well uhh its from 2002... so i think a new list should be posted... cities do change for the good... hopefully we Chicagoans are ahead of Boston.

Leo



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User currently offlineWillFang From Canada, joined Jan 2005, 73 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (8 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 3818 times:

Go Vancouver!

Not surprising that Ottawa didn't make it.



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User currently offlineMKEdude From South Korea, joined May 2005, 1011 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (8 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 3802 times:

Detroit?!?  spit 

Did the people who compiled this list even bother to visit these places?

Are people honestly arguing that Tashkent, Riyadh, and Dakar are better places to live then Portland Oregon, or Christchurch N.Z.? Perhaps the attractions of Lagos and Karachi were too much to pass up. sarcastic 

I mean...Detroit?!?



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User currently offlineQANTASFOREVER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (8 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 3802 times:

The Smellbournians have been on about this "official" list for years now. Moveon.org. Small pleasures amuse small minds.

QFF


User currently offlineSearpqx From Netherlands, joined Jun 2000, 4344 posts, RR: 10
Reply 13, posted (8 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 3798 times:

Quoting QANTASFOREVER (Reply 12):
The Smellbournians have been on about this "official" list for years now. Moveon.org. Small pleasures amuse small minds.

Now why do I get the feeling that if any non-Australian had made that comment, your response would have been entirely different?  stirthepot 



"The two most common elements in the universe are Hydrogen and stupidity"
User currently offlineQANTASforever From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (8 years 11 months 4 weeks ago) and read 3790 times:

Quoting Searpqx (Reply 13):
Now why do I get the feeling that if any non-Australian had made that comment, your response would have been entirely different?

Oh puhleaze. Conspiracy theories now is it? That's lame - really really really lame.

Blast them - I don't care.

* runs away with aluminium cap in tow.

QFF


User currently offlineChrisrad From Australia, joined Dec 2000, 1069 posts, RR: 8
Reply 15, posted (8 years 11 months 4 weeks ago) and read 3773 times:

Quoting Birdwatching (Thread starter):
Is your city listed? Do our fellow a.netters from those cities agree?

definitely agree, I was born and live in Melbourne, it truly is a wonderful cosmopolitan city.

Quoting QANTASFOREVER (Reply 12):
The Smellbournians have been on about this "official" list for years now. Moveon.org. Small pleasures amuse small minds.

jealousy will get you know where......... Wink



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User currently offlineChrisrad From Australia, joined Dec 2000, 1069 posts, RR: 8
Reply 16, posted (8 years 11 months 3 weeks 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 3697 times:

39th Los Angeles...... that high...????? I don't think I could live there


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User currently offlineDLKAPA From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (8 years 11 months 3 weeks 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 3689 times:

How Can Ryadh be on the list but not Denver?

User currently offlineUsnseallt82 From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 4891 posts, RR: 52
Reply 18, posted (8 years 11 months 3 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 3684 times:

Quoting Birdwatching (Thread starter):
28. Boston, Massachusetts

This surprises me.

Quoting Birdwatching (Thread starter):
32. (tie) Lyon, France

This doesn't....beautiful city!

Quoting Birdwatching (Thread starter):
34. Atlanta, Georgia
34. Chicago, Illinois

Both of these surprise me for even being on the list.

Quoting Birdwatching (Thread starter):
39. Houston, Texas
39. Los Angeles, California
39. Minneapolis, Minnesota
39. Pittsburgh, Pennsylvani

I don't buy Houston without any reference to Dallas in the list. Houston might be good for certain types of commerce, but Dallas is by far a better place to live.

I can't believe Los Angeles made it.

I don't know much about Minneapolis and Pittsburgh, but from what residents have told me, I can't believe they made the list either.

It seems like a LOT of good cities were left out completely.



Crye me a river
User currently offlineSingaporegirl From Singapore, joined Oct 2000, 302 posts, RR: 9
Reply 19, posted (8 years 11 months 3 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 3662 times:

that survey is from 2002. i'm enclosing a link to this year 'best city to live' :

http://www.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/europe/10/04/eui.survey/index.html

it looks like it's vancouver again this year.



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User currently offlineAirxLiban From Lebanon, joined Oct 2003, 4513 posts, RR: 53
Reply 20, posted (8 years 11 months 3 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 3647 times:

What are the criteria used to make this judgment?


PARIS, FRANCE...THE BEIRUT OF EUROPE.
User currently offlineCaptaink From Mexico, joined May 2001, 5109 posts, RR: 12
Reply 21, posted (8 years 11 months 3 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 3638 times:

WOW we made it to 105.. Mexico City. It is a really interesting city I must say that, I love it. But I am not sure everyone can make it there... But New York? I love New York too, but I have to admit you can get a better standard of living some of the other cities below it..  Smile I like Washington DC.. etc..

Toronto is a favorite for me...I am glad it is up there...



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User currently offlineAA61Hvy From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 13977 posts, RR: 57
Reply 22, posted (8 years 11 months 3 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 3631 times:

That could be the worst list I've ever seen. Cleveland is a real gem  sarcastic 


Go big or go home
User currently offlineAGC525 From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 989 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (8 years 11 months 3 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 3613 times:

Quoting AA61Hvy (Reply 22):
That could be the worst list I've ever seen. Cleveland is a real gem

Cleveland sucks.

Pittsburgh is nice to visit and do buisness, and unless your working in the medical or tech field I wouldn't live here. To be honest the days of the steel mills are long gone, and all sorts of buisness have taken their spot on the banks of our rivers. It's alot more beautiful than most people think.



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User currently offlineTrekster From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (8 years 11 months 3 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 3606 times:

WOW

Manchester ahead of New York and Washington

NICE


25 MKEdude : The first few cities on this list seem right but then they just lose the plot, as they got closer to the bottom it seems that they just started naming
26 Kay : vienna 4th? i agree, it's a cure for one's nerves and stress. but: 1- this is europe: everything is ridiculously expensive for complicated reasons tha
27 Post contains images ACDC8 : Of course it is!
28 Post contains images FlyAUA : Wow... I guess this makes me a fortunate person
29 TACAA320 : I'm packing to Melbourne.....
30 Post contains links and images Centrair : That list seems a little strange to me. Japan only had Tokyo and Osaka. I wouldn't want to live in either one. Kobe? Not on the list. It is green, acc
31 Boeing744 : Thats awesome that Vancouver is #1. Too bad the list is only for big cities, because Victoria might have a spot on there somewhere! It is the fastest
32 AC777LR : its awesome to see a few Canadian cities close to the top.
33 Post contains images ACDC8 : True, but it's still Calgary and is in Alberta (shudder) ....
34 DaddiesSecret : how can it be no one? has someone removed all the Australians from it?
35 Dtwclipper : Have you ever been to Detroit. What they are really talking about is the Metro Area I am sure. Hey, over 5 million people can't be wrong, there are a
36 L410Turbolet : I'd love see the methodology used for this survey. Could it be that Port Moresby, Papua New Guinea ended up on the very bottom just because maybe it's
37 ME AVN FAN : Well, Zurich, Geneva, Tunis, Amman, Dubai and Abu Dhabi are BELOW the one-million-line.
38 'Longreach' : I heard about this survey back in 2002 on the radio. In response to what criteria is used - Perth was edged out for number one by Melbourne because th
39 ME AVN FAN : proves that things like "entertaining city", diversity, etc were NOT taken into account
40 767Lover : Maybe this will open people's minds to the fact that there are some great cities out there that are either tainted by negative stereotypes or are grea
41 Post contains images Soyuzavia : And if it was Sydney, we would all be expected to join you in one massive circle jerk. And what would get up your arse even further is that Perth bea
42 Post contains images Jspitfire : Alright Vancouver! I must say, it is a great city to live in, as long as you don't mind the rain.
43 Post contains images QANTASforever : Heh - we climaxed in 2000 thank you very much. You think some little quiz interests us? No way. Oh yes. All 4 million of us sit at home all day think
44 Kevinl1011 : Here's the pot calling the kettle black. Because we have In & Out Burger.
45 ZKSUJ : Yay. Go Auckland. Number 24!!!
46 Post contains images HAJFlyer : Zurich still has a 20 rank lead. Good luck catching up !
48 Post contains images PanAm330 : Where's Crapchester on this list ? As for Cleveland and Pittsburgh, all joking aside, they really are great cities in my opinion, and I wouldn't hesit
49 KiwiinOz : Any list that ranks Adelaide as number 8 and Paris as number 32 is just a bunch of Tom Foolery
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