The new poll by Zogby for MSNBC.com also found that 73 percent of respondents were involved in a monogamous relationship and 66 percent of those surveyed had had unprotected sex while under the influence of alcohol. "
Too bad so few have to face the consequences of these idiotic actions.
Geoffm From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2004, 2111 posts, RR: 7 Reply 4, posted (7 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 2356 times:
You can just imagine the scene: soft, red furnishings, candlelight, champagne, petal baths, partners whispering sweet nothings in each other's ears... then one asks, "So... do you have HIV then?". You could go on with a number of other infectious diseases, so where do you stop?
Thorben From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 13, posted (7 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 2248 times:
This is a very serious issue. It's not just Americans who do that, you'd find those idiots all over Europe, too. I think the awareness for AIDS is a lot smaller today than when it was discovered. What can we do? Protect yourselves, tell the children about it a bring the issue up to those friends with whom you can talk about sex.
Oneworldman From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 190 posts, RR: 1 Reply 15, posted (7 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 2236 times:
Seriously though, While it would be great if a person did not have to designate themselves as either this or that, does anyone really think that that is possible in the USA. America is so caught up with race, it is almost debilitating.
TPASXM787 From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 1730 posts, RR: 22 Reply 18, posted (7 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 2200 times:
Quoting ORFflyer (Reply 17): Start doing your wife doggy-style, reach up and grab her tits, and tell her they feel just like here sisters.... THEN hang on for eight seconds.
And this article is right. You're completely stupid if you don't find out about someone and take the right steps to protect yourself. Not everyone is "clean" and not everyone is going to tell you.
Quoting Dtwclipper (Reply 14): Before you knocked up your wife, how many times did you have sex with other women? Did you get a sexual history on those women?
Don't pass judgment unless you can answer these question, honestly!
I can. I was with one girl for 3 years in college and now my fiancee. I knew. I didn't go around shagging everything that walked nor did I try to. There's a little thing called personal responsibility. Try it.
TriStarEnvy From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 2265 posts, RR: 4 Reply 21, posted (7 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 2137 times:
Anyone who has had unprotected sex, since the mid 80's, is risking plenty.
I remember seeing a documentary about the Aids Epidemic about 1988 on PBS. They told of how the CDC had traced it back to where, when, and who brought it into the USA. According to them, it all started in 1976, at a party on Fire Island. There were several hundred guests at the party. As of 1988, only ONE was still alive. What was sad was how the government pretty much ignored the disease when it started killing people, as it seemed to only affect homosexual men. As soon as it was realized that the virus was transmitted thru blood, and bodily fluid, that it became an issue.
Even the prudish of people should realize that this is not some "sex" disease, killing sinfully sex crazed deviates, or what not.
If you don't stand for SOMETHING, you'll fall for ANYTHING.
Nordair From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 22, posted (7 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 2085 times:
Quoting TPASXM787 (Reply 18): And this article is right. You're completely stupid if you don't find out about someone and take the right steps to protect yourself. Not everyone is "clean" and not everyone is going to tell you.
And not everyone is going to tell the truth when asked.
Diamond From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 3279 posts, RR: 66 Reply 23, posted (7 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 2049 times:
You have a lot of 'passion' about AIDS and STDs lately. It's in a couple of threads here and at least one thread on that 'other' site.
Your opinion is quite clear. But your reason for being angry about it isn't.
WHY does this matter to you?
WHY are you so determined to 'scold' people whose conduct isn't like what you claim yours to be?
WHY does someone's sexual safety (or lack thereof) make you so ANGRY?
There is something missing here.
What about the woman who has been married for 20 years and thinks she is in a faithful relationship with her husband. She gets HIV because he was actually sleeping around. Is it her "fault" that she didn't demand her own husband to wear a condom? No it isn't.
It isn't about 'fault' in the first place - and that I why I am so surprised by your determination to play the blame-game on this one topic.
WHY are you so determined to 'scold' people whose conduct isn't like what you claim yours to be?
Because they are being irresponsible, to the tune of Sexual Russian Roulette.
Quoting Diamond (Reply 23): What about the woman who has been married for 20 years and thinks she is in a faithful relationship with her husband. She gets HIV because he was actually sleeping around. Is it her "fault" that she didn't demand her own husband to wear a condom? No it isn't.
I hope you aren't trying to intimate anything here. I take my family responsibilities VERY seriously. I see part of those in keeping myself and my wife around long enough to see a couple of grand kids under the right circumstances.
Otherwise so far as your scenario goes.. DUHH of course it's not her fault and I don't fault those who are otherwise truly innocent. My points more involved those that ARE guilty of being fools, and not arguing or pretending to know which are in the majority.
25 MaverickM11: Of course not...all I say is that you are free to do whatever you want, as long as you accept the consequences. If you want to have unprotected sex w
26 TPASXM787: Bingo. There's no responsibility anymore. It's never anyone's fault. Blame it on the gov't or the guy next door. No one ever does anything wrong
27 DL021: THat's the same thing as saying that a person who smoked pot should not tell kids they shouldn't do it. We learn from our mistakes and hopefully teac
28 TriStarEnvy: Sadly, our society is now totally blameless for any mistake we make. It's never OUR fault when we screw up (pardon the pun) but someone else's....
29 MaverickM11: Sad but true...and I've gotten a lot more lenient on whose fault is what. After beeing good friends with a psychiatrist for several years you realize
30 NWA742: Lack of personal responsibility annoys a hardcore liberal like you? You really are a complete nutjob, Ted. -NWA742
31 TPASXM787: Just for clarity's sake, this was dtwclipper's original post. todo es bueno.
32 CaptOveur: I dunno, there are how many members of A.net? We all have to endure your parents choice to not wear a condom. You even bred, spreading the genes to a
33 JAGflyer: Families with more than 3 kids asking for welfare/social assistance. Ya right lady. Here are some condoms, go have safe sex. My motto "Can't afford th
34 Braybuddy: I am SO glad you started this thread. I was going to start one along the same lines myself. It is NOT just Americans who are looking for bareback sex.
35 Kyril: Hum ... I'm pretty sure that all the people walking around in winter without wearing enough clothes and catching a cold cost A LOT to insucrance comp
36 MaverickM11: That was in a Michael Jackson song too..."if you can't feed your baby/ then don't have a baby". One of the wiser thing(s) he's said...
37 Kaddyuk: There is a difference between not being able to afford kids and those who COULD afford them when they were born but situations a few years later mean
38 Diamond: I think you've missed my point. There are dozens of examples of how people are irresponsible in life. Welfare fraud, unemployment, food-stamp abuse,
39 AR1300: You should be pissed by your own actions.You brought that to yourself. Oh you didn't? so this is a lie....(posted by you in this thread How Many Sexu
40 Kyril: Dear Mike you do not know how I was contaminated, neither you have the right to tell that kind of things without knowing. Did I complain ? No. Ever h
41 AR1300: You are still bitching. so would you care to explain, if I may?? Mike
42 Thorben: I don't understand that either. In Germany HIV is spreading among homosexuals, and I read a shocking article of one man, who has it. He said that oth
43 AR1300: What's so hard to understand?? The guy has had 5000+ homo encounters. Let me explain this again as it seems as you are not getting the point. The who
44 Vermeer: thorben, I frankly don't know where to start... what you are highlighting is an extreme corner of a larger phenomenon which in the U.S. is called bar
45 Kyril: Read again my post it's written there. Is my English that poor that you can't understand what I wrote: That's how I became positive. I have lots of f
46 Kyril: That's true, but in Paris for example it's exactly the same on the straight side even worse ! Gays here usually go more often to doctors and are more
47 Searpqx: It sadden and scares me that the twenty & thirtysomethings of today seem to be forgetting or disregarding everything we learned in the 80s and 90s. T
48 TedTAce: You missed MY point THIS thread is about AIDS. I think you haven't researched me enough.. religious is my #1 Hot button religious is my #1 Hot button
49 Alberchico: If a guy tells a girl that he feels they should both get tested before doing it, the girl will most likely feel insulted and leave. Also you have to r
50 Diamond: Ted - do your own homework before making such a claim. The first time the word "straight" appears in this thread is in reply #35. The first time "het
51 TedTAce: You are correct, I PRESUMED it was referring to straight. Even then the fact I raised a preference neutral article, doen't mean I'm a homophobe. The
52 AR1300: So you prove my point it is not To weak in such moment is an irresponsability. It's up to you to decide what to do, and if you do it you acording to
53 Cragley: OK lets keep it to the facts, and stop taking cheap shots at one another. AR1300, I am absolutely appalled by your comments. You can;t justify someone
54 AR1300: I didn't. I didn't either I suggest you to re-read my post because seems like you didn't get a damn word. Mike
55 Cragley: AR1300...please stick to the facts of the discussion, no nit picking remember
56 Kyril: Yes I will not call that silliness but ignorance or worse. It appears we have the same age but I doubt you ever lived anything dear. I shown your pos
57 AR1300: I didn't nit pick.I showed you that you didn't get the idea that I tried to show, therefore suggested a re-reading of the subject. But I didn't.You a
58 Kyril: The so famous 5198 times were safe. The point is being a slut or not would have done nothing to my HIV status. Kyril
59 Rlwynn: It seems to me you played Russian roulette and lost. I would conclude that you pretty much deserve what you got.
60 HAJFlyer: Rlywnn, that is a very cold, crude, condescending and arrogant statement. I don't necessarily agree with Kyrill´s lifestyle as well (mind you I did
61 AR1300: well, I didn't want to be the one in saying it un that way....but, you get my point. Mike
62 Rlwynn: No, it is just the hard cold reality of the situation he willingly put himself in. He knowingly took the risk of having unprotected sex with an infec
63 HAJFlyer: I agree with you that in purely legalistic terms his behaviour would be qualified as grossly negligent. All I am trying to say that there a situation
64 Rlwynn: What reasons would that be? I could understand ignorance. I have seen many cases of somebody doing something for which they had no clue of the conseq
65 HAJFlyer: For example underestimating the risk like when driving under the influence because you think that your motor skills are not all that impaired. Of cou
66 AR1300: That's what I've been fu*king trying to say.Finally. yup. Amen. this is a better example of the one that I gave.Thx. mike[Edited 2005-10-14 23:47:04]
67 Kyril: But this is quite far from reality as you do not live 24/24 365/365 under the influence of alcohol or a drug ! It's more like crossing the street sev
68 AR1300: none of us said that. Of course we did thing irrationally, we are humans.We (at least me) , I take responsability for my own actions, And try to meas
69 Rlwynn: I really do not want to sound mean, but with all due respect. There is really no possible way to defend the fact that your contraction of HIV was 100%
70 FlyAUA: I only play it safe! Even when I had a bf, we used protection for almost a year. We then both got tested and when I was sure I could trust him... well
71 Kyril: Did I claim it was not preventable ? No. Why ? When you live with a potential danger you may fail to raise protection 24h a day. Like an animal train
72 AR1300: I think that he explains it better than I do. anyway, this thread is gettin pointless, so here we go with the last post. Mike
73 Thorben: It is never 100% preventable, protection or not. Besides, your other statements are just terrible.[Edited 2005-10-17 11:44:14]
74 Kevi747: You people are mean. If your looking for any kind of compassion, you've come to the wrong website. That's lame. Come on, now.