Sponsor Message:
Non Aviation Forum
My Starred Topics | Profile | New Topic | Forum Index | Help | Search 
Anyone Experienced Loneliness  
User currently offlineHAWK21M From India, joined Jan 2001, 31712 posts, RR: 56
Posted (9 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 1985 times:

Anyone Experienced being lonely.ie Having no living Family member around,no relatives,dependents.....Not including friends.
But actually Staying Alone.
Anyone in that situation.Whats it like.
regds
MEL


Think of the brighter side!
92 replies: All unread, showing first 25:
 
User currently offlineFlyAUA From Austria, joined May 2005, 4604 posts, RR: 56
Reply 1, posted (9 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 1974 times:

Quoting HAWK21M (Thread starter):
Anyone in that situation.Whats it like.

It's not fun. My friends are the only thing that keep me going when I'm so far from all the other things...  Sad



Not drinking, also isn't a solution!
User currently offlineBirdwatching From Germany, joined Sep 2003, 3836 posts, RR: 51
Reply 2, posted (9 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 1972 times:

Man, I've been there. Luckily, no matter where you are, there's always Anet, and we're all one big family!  Smile


All the things you probably hate about travelling are warm reminders that I'm home
User currently offlineHAWK21M From India, joined Jan 2001, 31712 posts, RR: 56
Reply 3, posted (9 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 1963 times:

I suppose the Tough part would be when you get back home at the end of the day.
regds
MEL



Think of the brighter side!
User currently offlineMIA From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 876 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (9 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 1959 times:

I feel lonely like 80% of my day. I experience chronic loneliness, which explains my constant depression.


"Like all great travelers, I have seen more than I remember, and remember more than I have seen."
User currently offlineVSLover From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 1897 posts, RR: 22
Reply 5, posted (9 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 1950 times:

oh sure. many people are surprised to know that nyc can truly be one of the most lonely places to live at times.

the lonliness is only exacerbated by the sheer number of people that surround you on a daily basis. most anyone that has lived there and has some type of career knows exactly what i'm talking about.


User currently onlineMir From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 21866 posts, RR: 55
Reply 6, posted (9 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 1939 times:

Quoting MIA (Reply 4):
I feel lonely like 80% of my day. I experience chronic loneliness, which explains my constant depression.

Wow, me too. That's why there's a.net!

North Dakota would be a lonely place without it. Heck, it's a lonely place with it.

-Mir



7 billion, one nation, imagination...it's a beautiful day
User currently offlineSlamClick From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 10062 posts, RR: 68
Reply 7, posted (9 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 1935 times:

Oh yeah!

I spent the last six years of my working life not living at home. Six years! My wife commented one time when I was visiting home that this was a good rehearsal for when one of us dies. There were periods within those years when I only got home maybe once every six months for a week or so.

I wasn't lonely when I left home as a youth and went into the military. I missed my home and family but I was exactly where I wanted to be. That was my new life and I embraced that. The last six years were infinitely worse.

Keep busy and don't pass up social opportunities.

On one occasion I went to work as a consultant to a small airline. They gave me a nice little out-of-the-way office where I would not be disturbed. I set up the computer, got copies of all their ops-related manuals and set to work. About three weeks later I suddenly pushed back from my desk and said: "I'm lonesome!" I went outside to the smoking area and got in the conversations there. Started taking cigarette breaks - didn't smoke but just to have someone to talk to.



Happiness is not seeing another trite Ste. Maarten photo all week long.
User currently offlineVSLover From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 1897 posts, RR: 22
Reply 8, posted (9 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 1924 times:

sorry, my statement was incomplete and i cant edit now.

what i meant to say is that i have really been living away from my family for almost 10 years now, since i was 17.

now, being in nyc, with no family and work sucking up my life, there were times when i would have no available friends to even hang out with as i stopped making plans with them because so often i would just have to break them for work. so the few times i would get out of work early on a saturday (for example) no one was around or available...this was around the holidays two years ago and thats when i realized the city can be SO lonely. the only thing that kept me from slipping into a depression was optimism that this was only a temporary period and the power to change the situation was wholly within my control.

eventually i did seek out other social opportunities with acquaintances or attended social events on my own. it is a rough patch but i believe most everyone goes through it at some point and emerges a better person because of it...eventually.


User currently offlineBirdwatching From Germany, joined Sep 2003, 3836 posts, RR: 51
Reply 9, posted (9 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 1907 times:

This year, I was alone on my birthday for the first time in my life. Seems like everybody else had forgotten it too, so I didn't even get any calls. My parents called 15 minutes late (at 0015!), but thats ok, they're 6 time zones behind and were still at work. The only emails I got were automatically-generated birthday messages from places like amazon.com. During the day, I was in university and I kind of forgot it was my birthday because I was among people. I'm not the kind of person who tells everybody it's their birthday, so I just didn't. Then I came home and I felt really really lonely. It was depressively rainy outside and my heating took like 2 hours to get going. I felt so miserable I cried a little bit. Yeah thats right, a 23 year old guy crying a little bit. So finaly I decided to go to Anet and post a thread in the forum... but heck, I didn't, because I would have been flamed with cargo bay pictures!  Smile

Oh well... still I love you all for being there when nobody else is!



All the things you probably hate about travelling are warm reminders that I'm home
User currently offlineAeroWesty From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 20822 posts, RR: 62
Reply 10, posted (9 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 1903 times:

Quoting HAWK21M (Thread starter):
Anyone in that situation.Whats it like.

My only sister lives 2500 miles away, my sole first cousin probably 1500 miles away, and there are probably second cousins floating around out there I don't even know about. Everyone else is dead and gone.

I've never felt the least bit lonely.



International Homo of Mystery
User currently offlineBirdwatching From Germany, joined Sep 2003, 3836 posts, RR: 51
Reply 11, posted (9 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 1895 times:

Quoting AeroWesty (Reply 10):
I've never felt the least bit lonely.

Wow, you're a hero, man.  sarcastic 



All the things you probably hate about travelling are warm reminders that I'm home
User currently offlineNordair From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (9 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 1886 times:

There is no greater loneliness than being lonely in a crowd.

User currently offlineAeroWesty From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 20822 posts, RR: 62
Reply 13, posted (9 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 1881 times:

Quoting Birdwatching (Reply 11):
Ê

Why the sarcastic look? I was never brought up in a big happy kumbaya family unit. I never even knew I had a first cousin until she appeared at my father's remarriage when I was in my early 20's.

For the last 20 years or so I've either hosted holidays or been invited out for occasions that mean anything, and find things to do during times, like right now, when I'm temporarily not all that mobile.

My sister is happy in Florida, and if I ever want to visit her, she's a plane ride away.

Question was asked, and I answered it. If you have lonliness issues, and can't deal with those who don't, maybe you should take a look at that.  Smile



International Homo of Mystery
User currently offlineBigOrange From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 2375 posts, RR: 3
Reply 14, posted (9 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 1868 times:

Right after I bought my own house, I used to come home from work and get anxiety attacks. Even after I got married I still suffered anxiety attacks if I got home first.

Previous to that I lived in a shared house with 5 other people, and there was always someone around.


User currently offlineBirdwatching From Germany, joined Sep 2003, 3836 posts, RR: 51
Reply 15, posted (9 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 1863 times:

Quoting AeroWesty (Reply 13):
Question was asked, and I answered it. If you have lonliness issues, and can't deal with those who don't, maybe you should take a look at that.

AeroWesty, I apologize for that post... actually you're really lucky you don't ever feel lonely. I really dont know why I posted that. Guess I was kind of jealous  Smile Ok, we're friends again, right?  thumbsup   wave 



All the things you probably hate about travelling are warm reminders that I'm home
User currently offlineAeroWesty From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 20822 posts, RR: 62
Reply 16, posted (9 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 1843 times:

Quoting Birdwatching (Reply 15):
Ok, we're friends again, right?

Of course, no offense was taken.  Smile



International Homo of Mystery
User currently offlineUAL747 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (9 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 1838 times:

Well, basically other than my mother, I rarely see any of my relatives. They call or I call them, but we don't see each other so often, or less than I would like.

As far as friends go, I have far and few between. I dunno...I'm definitely lonely. Sometimes I feel like don't fit in with a lot of people. I mean, I DEFINITELY like my privacy, but I need to be more social.

Then there's the relationship thing. I haven't been or been "dating" someone since 2001, and the last person was a GIRL! Blah, I can assume you understand how well that relationship went.

But yeah, I'm hella lonely. But I hope that will soon change. It gets depressing. That's a fact.

UAL


User currently offlineConcord977 From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 1261 posts, RR: 25
Reply 18, posted (9 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 1829 times:

Mel, I know you have a beautiful daughter. Is she not living with you? Or was your question not based on your own experience at all?

I experienced what you described for the very first time last year. It is a strong feeling. I'm still trying to shake it. Maybe that's why I lurk on a.net and other forums so much. To simulate the company I used to have and don't anymore.

Some people are afraid to admit being lonely because other people will think of them as 'losers' (expecially on a.net). The most understanding you will likely get on a.net is an empty cargo bay and being told to "get a life". Big deal. I don't see it that way. It's just the circumstances that you find yourself in at times.

You see people every day in your life that are potential friends. But the opportunity slips by. Everyone is afraid to make the first move of friendship.

Weird.



No info
User currently offlineRobertNL070 From Netherlands, joined Sep 2003, 4534 posts, RR: 9
Reply 19, posted (9 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 1823 times:

Often been alone for lengths of time, but I've only had very rare moments of loneliness. Even when I was totally alone for Christmas 1993 and 1994, I didn't feel lonesome. That comes of being an afterthought I think, with much older siblings, and very much older parents: my parents are 41 years older than me. Being brought up in a very 'adult' environment, and not being able to relate very well with my peers, as a child I very often had take care of and amuse myself.

Regards, Robert  bouncy 



Youth is a gift of nature. Age is a work of art.
User currently offlineAeroWesty From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 20822 posts, RR: 62
Reply 20, posted (9 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 1812 times:

Quoting UAL747 (Reply 17):
I mean, I DEFINITELY like my privacy, but I need to be more social.

Here's some unsolicited advice. You can make your own social events happen. Let me explain.

When I was growing up, it was set in stone we'd spend Thanksgiving with my mother's side of the family, and Christmas with my father's. Easter was a wing-it free-for-all, that usually ended up with us going to Carmel or the Napa Valley or some such.

As my sister and I got older, and relatives died off, our Christmas usually consisted of "Christmas Lunch", where we'd invite friends that had been close to our family out somewhere nice the Saturday before the holiday, and we'd pick up the tab. That gave us a "holiday" with each other, and with people we wanted to be with, but also let us go our separate ways on the actual day. Until my best friend died a couple of years ago, I would just head to the airport and fly off to Phoenix.

My Thanksgivings are legendary. After my mother died, I started going to Europe over Thanksgiving so I'd only have to use one week of vacation, get a 10-day trip out of it, and do my Christmas shopping. One year a friend joined me and we ended up having Thanksgiving dinner in the dining room of the Amsterdam Marriott. Now, they just didn't quite understand the holiday, because they were dressed up as cowboys, cowgirls, and native american indians--the Wild West in full regalia. Building on that theme, I started hosting Thanksgivings where I'd pick a historical American event, but just not do it right--on purpose. Martha Stewart would have a coronary, but probably have a laugh about it in the end. It started out with just inviting people I knew who were single and were alone over the holiday. This year, people already have their travel plans in place, even though I can't do as much as I have in the past, just because I can't stand all day long, everyone's said it's okay, they want the tradition to continue, and have parcelled out what to do. We'll even have a chat room setup on AIM where people can say hello to friends online and see what everyone else is doing.

It is possible to look loneliness in the face, and have a laugh at it. It just takes choosing to say, "I'm going to do something else."



International Homo of Mystery
User currently offlineRobertNL070 From Netherlands, joined Sep 2003, 4534 posts, RR: 9
Reply 21, posted (9 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 1809 times:

Quoting AeroWesty (Reply 20):
It is possible to look loneliness in the face, and have a laugh at it. It just takes choosing to say, "I'm going to do something else."

Kudos. Good philosophy AeroWesty.

Regards, Robert  bouncy 



Youth is a gift of nature. Age is a work of art.
User currently offlineNordair From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (9 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 1791 times:

It is far better to be lonely than it is to have people who pretend to be your friend because they think of you as a pushover, try to use you as their own private bank account, lie to you, deceive you, and rob you of your dignity until they are sure they've gotten from you all they can.

Yes, loneliness is not such a bad thing at all!


User currently offlineScarletHarlot From Canada, joined Jul 2003, 4673 posts, RR: 56
Reply 23, posted (9 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 1777 times:

Quoting RobertNL070 (Reply 19):
That comes of being an afterthought I think, with much older siblings, and very much older parents: my parents are 41 years older than me. Being brought up in a very 'adult' environment, and not being able to relate very well with my peers, as a child I very often had take care of and amuse myself.

Holy cows Robert, this is like reading about myself. I'm an only child, my mom was 42 when I was born. I am very good at being alone, because I'm so used to it. I also was more used to adults than kids, and even now have no problem relating to older people.



But that was when I ruled the world
User currently offlineRobertNL070 From Netherlands, joined Sep 2003, 4534 posts, RR: 9
Reply 24, posted (9 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 1768 times:

Quoting ScarletHarlot (Reply 23):
Holy cows Robert, this is like reading about myself. I'm an only child, my mom was 42 when I was born. I am very good at being alone, because I'm so used to it. I also was more used to adults than kids, and even now have no problem relating to older people.

 smile 

Kind regards, Robert  bouncy 



Youth is a gift of nature. Age is a work of art.
25 Post contains images FlyAUA : WOW, are you sure you're not a shrink? How much do you charge?!
26 Pilot kaz : Lets see..... - Been getting let down by friends often - Was chucked into Foster care when I was young - Never had many friends in School - Been feeli
27 Post contains images Nordair : Alas, the burden of wisdom weighs heavily on my shoulders.
28 Birdwatching : You do here!
29 TNboy : A couple of times I had to leave my wife/home for maybe 12 months at a time because of work-related stuff. It was sort of lonely, but at least I knew
30 Comorin : Loneliness can happen when you are separated from a group, family or a loved one... a withdrawal symptom. The remedy is to reverse the situation - tak
31 Captaink : I moved from Grenada, WI to live and study in mexico. Trust me I get really lonely at times. I have made some good friends here but sometimes you just
32 J_Hallgren : My real true loneliness began in Aug 2000 when my close Aunt died..leaving me with just my Mom (and an Aunt in Sweden) It got much worse in Jun 2002 w
33 Logan22L : Well, I'm a different sort. I have some family left, (Father, sister, Brother-in-Law), but I have only a tight connection with my Father. This was not
34 Fumanchewd : Yeah, all the time. But I just tear one off and I feel alot better.
35 Adam T. : Coming to New Zealand to study abroad I experienced lonliness, and was pretty depressed about it for a month. Strangely enough, I did some traveling a
36 Post contains images HAWK21M : This is one Happy Lonely man. regds MEL
37 ZKSUJ : It doesn't feel too bad until something in your life goes wrong and no one you trust is there to turn to. But you get used to it after a while I guess
38 HAWK21M : I guess the toughest part is to find the right kind of friends. regds MEL
39 BigOrange : Well said Nordair. Having experienced a situation like this I agree fully!
40 HAWK21M : But there would be some Friends who are like you looking for True Friendship.The problem is how do you find such people. You'll need to go thru 200 t
41 AeroWesty : But those 2 make going through the other 198 so worth it.
42 AirxLiban : Felt lonely three times in life...I've just moved to Oxford and I have been making plenty of friends here but it is not the same. Anyway I could go an
43 HAWK21M : Tips To find True Friends maybe. regds MEL
44 Captaink : I find that when I call home i feel a little better. I am 24, but I miss my mother so much it is unbelievable... I thought that it is just part of lif
45 Nordair : You're never too old to love and miss anyone! There is nothing wrong with being close to your parents. Missing them is an indication of how much they
46 ScarletHarlot : You're damned lucky is what you are. Enjoy your good relationship with them and realize that you are very fortunate!
47 HAWK21M : Out here Family is very Important.So I've seen many Friends face this.Nothing wrong. regds MEL
48 Post contains images Captaink : That's is true ScarletHarlot I should consider myself lucky to have parents to miss. Some people aren't that lucky.. My heart goes out to them...
49 SmithAir747 : Loneliness and solitude have been constant companions throughout my life... Let's see: *Being born with some rare facial birth defects and life-threat
50 Redngold : Hawk - First of all, even though A.net and other cyberspace interactions are not a permanent solution to loneliness, I hope that this can provide some
51 HAWK21M : Most Good friends are actually Collegues.When I say go thru 200 to meet 2,is a fact that with passage of time one realises who those two are. [Someon
52 Post contains images Scbriml : I worked abroad for seven months last year. There were times when missing my family was tough. I did have the compensation of knowing it was only temp
53 B744F : That is horrible, most people are so mean. That is great you overcame that though. Loneliness is part of life. The more you accept it, and grow to li
54 HAWK21M : Its as if they are in a Military camp.Tough way to live,but its a question of earning Money for the Family. regds MEL
55 OzarkD9S : I've been alone, but never lonely. I actually enjoy my "alone" time...means I don't have to deal with other people's shit.
56 ScarletHarlot : That is a valid point as well. I was more thinking about those of us who don't have good relationships with our parents who are still around. I miss
57 BigOrange : I have one person who I class as a true friend. From having a crush on her when we were both 18, we both went our separate ways but always came back
58 Post contains images VC10BOAC : I have no family where I live, but as long as my right hand still works I will be OK
59 Post contains images HAWK21M : I call those collegues To me a Friend is someone who is there for you,at all times. Although I have Three.But currently they are very far off. [its b
60 JimmyStreet : Okay, im stepping over a line i said that I wouldnt cross when I joined these forums in respects to personal information, but im at snapping point and
61 Captaink : I am not a professional so I don't know good my advice will be.... But I think it is always a good idea to find yourself before you can find other peo
62 Psa53 : Being in retail,it's pretty busy here, and working a lot of hours,sometimes,I welcome the quiet.And the long hours has caused breakups. But although I
63 FlyboyOz : Well...you need "LOVE". Try to talk with them and love them so that they know you are nice and kind to them. They will treat you well. Hope this helps
64 SATX : That's sure true. This has got to be one of the most depressing threads I've ever read. OTOH, I can see that some folks actually had it worse than me
65 Post contains images HAWK21M : My Advice. Be Happy.Don't Expect. Don't look for love.Concentrate on your Carrier.You will find someone who loves you on the way.Join a club if needed
66 Post contains images HAWK21M : Does this Pic depict Lonliness. regds MEL
67 Mika : Loneliness appears when there's a difference between your desired relations and your actual relations. Hence the reason why you can also feel lonely e
68 Stirling : Ahh, North Dakota, where the 18 year old kid I once was learned to drink to extinguish the lonliness. Very true and important words to live by. You c
69 Post contains images SATX : LOL! That has got to be one of the most amusing things I've ever read.
70 Post contains links Stirling : Glad I made your day. For further investigation... I'm a fan of Paulo Coelho. www.warriorofthelight.com
71 SkySurfer : I was in that situation when i left my wife to live by myself.......totally barren,bare,total nothingness. But then you think....hang on, is this bett
72 767Lover : I think most people experience loneliness at some point or another. When I found out my mom has Alzheimer's, I felt INCREDIBLY alone...especially sinc
73 Post contains images Jap : Feeling lonely should be pretty hard when you live with your parents and you always have animals around you, you'd think. I wish it was... simple answ
74 Logan22L : That's a tough road, 767. You know you are not alone, but that doesn't really help, does it? In these times, people who are not terribly religious, o
75 Post contains images Jap : I guess I do on some level. It's not depressing as there's always a light ahead, and I have special times to look forwards to. It's just the wait inb
76 FlyboyOz : Ok I have got to tell you about my experience. I do have friends but I called "different-type-of-friends". I mean I have church friends, classmates, c
77 Captaink : Hmm I guess there is a difference between, close friends, friends and acquaintances... And without the close friend which can be like a brother or sis
78 HAWK21M : Very Well Defined. I guess thats where the Search for that one or Two friends is for. The Path to Happiness:- Genetic propensity to happiness Marriag
79 Stall : I would say 'Earn enough money'
80 Post contains images HAWK21M : Makes Sense regds MEL
81 SATX : It's hard to find someone who will always be there and hoping for some sort of deep-rooted bond, like a brother or sister may have, could be setting
82 Post contains images FlyboyOz : SATX...Thanks for helping me to understand my problems and situation. I appreciate it. Now, I have added you in my respected user. You're a great guy!
83 1MillionFlyer : Quit posting on A.Net and go live life. sitting at homeposting will not help you meet new people and enjoy life's expereinces.
84 Post contains images Jap : The people who can afford going to the a.net meeting are doing pretty well I met a load of friends on here and on another aviation site- unfortunatel
85 HAWK21M : In Fact it helps Contact people with Similiar Taste.Just dont Over do it.Concentrate on Outdoors as Well. regds MEL
86 AeroWesty : I disagree. Someone said that to me once when they criticized me for volunteering my time to moderate chat rooms on a well-known online service some
87 MD11Engineer : Being an aviation gipsy, who follows the work, I have plenty of experiwnce in being lonely. I usually push myself into work or study for some new lice
88 Post contains images HAWK21M : I have a Collegue who does just that. regds MEL
89 BSBIsland : This is exactly what happens to me. And because of that I ruined some friendships and each day I´m more distant from friends and my family. I still
90 Post contains images BR715-A1-30 : I have this experience pretty much 95% of my life... The other 5%, I hang out with a friend. Here Here LOL!!! So True, So True Hmmm... Well, I'm depr
91 Post contains images HAWK21M : Notice... You are mostly lonely when You are not Busy. Most people Bounce back fast,some take longer. Think Positive.It works after some Practice. reg
92 Post contains links and images HAWK21M : Does this Depict Lonliness. I hate to see a Kid lonely.Kids should always be happy. regds MEL
Top Of Page
Forum Index

This topic is archived and can not be replied to any more.

Printer friendly format

Similar topics:More similar topics...
Anyone Experienced Loneliness posted Tue Oct 11 2005 14:56:35 by HAWK21M
Anyone Got A Simple Paella Recipe?. posted Tue Dec 19 2006 22:01:42 by Leezyjet
Anyone In The Dropshipping Business? posted Mon Dec 18 2006 08:52:26 by Mika
LHR Spotting Next Week...anyone? posted Sat Dec 16 2006 07:33:44 by N808NW
Anyone Working Night Shifts Out Here posted Fri Dec 8 2006 15:48:56 by HAWK21M
Horny Manatees Anyone? posted Fri Dec 8 2006 03:31:00 by DavestanKSAN
What On Earth Did The Jews Do To Anyone? posted Fri Dec 8 2006 00:18:54 by Aloges
Anyone From Las Vegas? posted Thu Dec 7 2006 15:02:44 by Thomson735
Does Anyone On A.net Have A PS3 posted Mon Dec 4 2006 20:05:25 by PJFlysFast
Anyone Invested In Solar Panels On Your House? posted Mon Dec 4 2006 10:56:55 by Lehpron