Seb146 From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 11813 posts, RR: 15 Posted (9 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 2030 times:
Since there are theorys floating around out there about "Intelligent Design vs. Darwinism" how about this:
According to Christians, God created humans in his image. He created first man, then woman but He created both. Meaning: He has the ability to be both genders. It would stand to reason, from that, it should be acceptable if a man wants to spend his life with another man or if a woman wants to spend her life with another woman or whatever the case and that sex was given to us for creation and not necissarily a means to keep the same opposite gender partner forever. What do you think?
Dtwclipper From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (9 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 2002 times:
Quoting TedTAce (Reply 1): That being said....
I don't think you are barking up the right tree...trying to make a religious justification for homosexuality is like trying to use the titanic to explain Hydroplanes.
You are such a paradox. Sometime I can agree with you, like your statement above which is so well put, and on other occasions, well you already know.
He created first man, then woman but He created both.
I always wondered why he didn't do both at the same time?
Oh, yeah...the book was written by men. Gotta keep women in thier "place", and what better way then to say they were created from the rib of a MAN, then put the entire blame of "original sin" on women as well.
TheCoz From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (9 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 1981 times:
"And I say unto thee. Thou shalt take up no sword, nor grain, nor camera in the name of lust. The sheep of two nations forbid you great reward and will bring a terrible plague on your livestock in the field—on your horses and donkeys and camels and on your cattle and sheep and goats." Ralph 14:3
Redngold From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 6907 posts, RR: 44
Reply 9, posted (9 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 1935 times:
Golly gee whiz I actually thought this thread might be about a more general "sexuality" instead of just homosexuality... but I guess that's what I should expect from past history. It's too bad that your topic line doesn't accurately reflect the sliver of sexuality that you're actually addressing.
God has no gender, but He has given us purpose and laws. You are also confusing "gender" with "biological genotype." There is no place in the Bible that encourages or blesses homosexual relationships. There are many places that condemn homosexual behavior. That makes it pretty clear to me.
Jaysit From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (9 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 1931 times:
Quoting Redngold (Reply 9): There is no place in the Bible that encourages or blesses homosexual relationships. There are many places that condemn homosexual behavior. That makes it pretty clear to me
Good for you.
I hope you refrain from wearing clothes made of more than just one fiber and are servile to your husband too.
Quoting Redngold (Reply 9): Golly gee whiz I actually thought this thread might be about a more general "sexuality" instead of just homosexuality... but I guess that's what I should expect from past history
Moses' account of the creation in the book of Genesis is so familiar and so entrenched in our cultural heritage that many accept as actual historic fact the assertion that Woman was created from one of Adam's ribs.
Science has railed against such simple beliefs for centuries. Last week, at a dig in the escarpments along the western shore of the Dead Sea, archeologists have uncovered ancient, original texts that pre-date Moses' writings by 1,300 years. Translated, their account of life's beginnings on earth are much more scientifically plausible.
"... and God created Woman, giving her three breasts to succor her young. And God spoke, saying to her, "I have created thee as I see fit, but mine is no longer the only opinion in the universe (sigh). Is there anything about thee that thou would prefer differently?"
And Woman spoke, saying, "Lord, I am not made to birth whole litters; I do not need but two breasts."
And God said, "Thou speak wisely, as I have created thee with wisdom."
There was a crack and a lingering odor of ozone, and it was done, and Woman stood holding her third breast in her hand.
"But what shall be done with this useless boob?" Woman exclaimed.
Seb146 From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 11813 posts, RR: 15
Reply 15, posted (9 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 1862 times:
My original post was not to justify homosexuality. I know the laws Moses gave to the Isrealites condemns the act. If an omnipotent being was capable of creating both genders of all life forms, then that being either has no gender (not likely) or both genders (more likely) and wanted to keep the two genders separate. Remember that God walked with Adam and Eve before they ate of the forbidden fruit. So, what about a theory that, even though we have one gender or another, we are still able to have the thoughts and desires (not the correct word, but close) of both genders since our creator does.
Again, this is not trying to justify homosexuality, but rather I am looking for a good discussion on this theory.
ScarletHarlot From Canada, joined Jul 2003, 4673 posts, RR: 56
Reply 16, posted (9 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 1856 times:
Quoting Seb146 (Reply 15): I am looking for a good discussion on this theory.
Seb, I doubt that you will achieve such a thing. Those who believe enough in the bible to discuss with you will likely already be prejudiced against homosexuality, and those who would be more open minded about it will likely already be prejudiced against religion. Good luck.
ManuCH From Switzerland, joined Jun 2005, 3012 posts, RR: 46
Reply 19, posted (9 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 1776 times:
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In my opinion, the bible is just yet another bestseller phantasy book written by men. To me this has just the same importance like what JK Rowling writes in "Harry Potter": a book can't tell humanity what is morally right or wrong. Everyone needs to know and decide that with his own brain. Considering the bible a law today, in year 2005, is beyond my understanding. Now flame me
KROC From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (9 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 1763 times:
Quoting Redngold (Reply 13): Tradition and ease, like most other reasons why people assign genders to sterilized pets and inanimate objects. But you already knew that.
My "sterilized" pets still have Gender. And for all the feminists out there saying God is a woman and such, where is the "ease" or "tradition"? If God has no gender as you claim, then you cannot call it a "he". Its that simple. Fact is, you have no idea about what god is, his actual existance or anything like that. You are basing this off quite possibly a work of fiction.
Quoting Jaysit (Reply 17): Its because you haven't one.
Bible thumpers are often dumbstruck and tongue-tied when confronted with logic.
HAJFlyer From Switzerland, joined Sep 2005, 1473 posts, RR: 9
Reply 24, posted (9 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days ago) and read 1739 times:
Quoting Bluewave 707 (Reply 18): Go to the source, the Bible ...
Leviticus Ch. 18 & Ch 20
I Corinthians Ch. 7
I Timothy 1:9-11
Bluewave707, while it is nice of you to name some relevant sections of the bible doing so does not necessarily advance this discussion as there are various viable and contradictory interpretations out there.
Click here to view one that most likely doesn't conform with your own views.
: Bluewave 707: We all know what the prophets say about *the act* of homosexuality. My question is: what do you as a Christian think about sexuality (*P