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Trio Jailed For Ebay Fraud  
User currently offlineAlcregular From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 1514 times:

Three Romanians who conned eBay customers out of thousands of pounds have been sentenced to a total of eight years' imprisonment.

The "cell" tricked customers into paying for £300,000 worth of fictitious goods which never arrived.

The man said to be the gang's ringleader, Nicolae Cretanu, 30, of Forest Gate, London, was given a three and a half year term for the fraud.

His wife Adriana, 23, and George Titar, 26, both got two and a half years.

The couple advertised everything from non-existent cars to concert tickets and used 12 aliases and an accomplice to collect the payments.

Their accomplice Titar, of Stratford, London, collected payments from money transfer shops.


Don't use money transfer to send money to anybody who you don't know personally.
Chief Supt Nigel Mawe

The two-year scam was successful because buyers on eBay have to pay before they are sent their goods.

People were told by email that they had been unsuccessful in their first bid but were offered a "second chance" to buy a similar item.

But the goods they purchased never arrived and the trio managed to net at least £300,000 from the scam.

The majority of the cash was sent back to the gang's accomplices in Romania in what the police described as a well-planned and sophisticated fraud.

The racket was finally exposed after suspicious staff at money transfer firm Western Union alerted police.

Essentially safe

Chief Superintendent Nigel Mawer who led the operation said the fraud was operated by a "significant cell of Romanians operating in London".

"We believe there were 3,000 victims of this fraud and this type of fraud is still continuing."

He said that up to a £1 billion worth of fraud of this type took place in the UK a year.

And he issued a warning to potential internet auction customers: "Don't use money transfer to send money to anybody who you don't know personally.

"It is not designed for that and Western Union support that and work with us on that," he said.

Chief Supt Mawer added that the cell's accomplices in Romania had been arrested and were awaiting trial.


The criminals used the site to gather information and initially to contact their victims but carried out the fraud separately
eBay spokesman

He stressed that internet auctions were essentially safe as long as customers followed the "good guidance" on how to buy safely.

In this case people were duped into not following those rules, he said.

Responding to the case, eBay issued a statement saying it was sorry that anyone had suffered through their association with eBay but pointed out the transactions had not taken place on the internet site itself.

"As soon as we were made aware of them we took action. By working with the police we helped ensure that the prosecutions were successful, showing that crime does not pay on eBay.

A spokesman said: "The criminals used the site to gather information and initially to contact their victims but carried out the fraud separately beyond the protected environment we provide.

"Payments were made using Western Union money transfers, which both eBay and Western Union strongly recommend against.

"In fact, eBay.com in the U.S. has banned payment via Western Union and eBay.co.uk will soon be following suit."

As well as pursuing the gang's "cohorts in Romania", Chief Supt Mawer pledged to pursue asset confiscation procedures against the gang with a view to creating a compensation fund for their victims.

The sentencing comes after the trio pleaded guilty at Middlesex Guildhall Crown Court to conspiracy to obtain fraud by deception and money laundering earlier this year.

Their arrests in May were prompted by an investigation by Scotland Yard's specialist economic crime unit.


Source: BBC News

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User currently offlineBanco From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2001, 14752 posts, RR: 54
Reply 1, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 1506 times:

And to forestall the point at which all of the above gets deleted for a copyright breach, here's the link: Big grin

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4385956.stm



She's as nervous as a very small nun at a penguin shoot.
User currently offlineKaddyuk From Wallis and Futuna, joined Nov 2001, 4126 posts, RR: 26
Reply 2, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 1504 times:

I dont know why anyone uses eBay, its a friggin rip off...


Whoever said "laughter is the best medicine" never had Gonorrhea
User currently offlineExile From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2005, 6 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 1473 times:

Quote:
I dont know why anyone uses eBay, its a friggin rip off...

I know someone who buys underwear on e-bay!


User currently offlineBaylorAirBear From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 2913 posts, RR: 50
Reply 4, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 1465 times:

Quoting Kaddyuk (Reply 2):
its a friggin rip off...

How's it a rip off?

Thanks,

BAB



I'm just skipping stones...
User currently offlineMatt D From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 9502 posts, RR: 48
Reply 5, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 1443 times:

That's what I'd like to know. I've been buying and selling on Ebay for years and have never had any major problems. I've received everything I bought and everyone I've sold to has been satisfied.

As with everything else, it's buyer beware. But with a little common sense, you can minimize your risks. As for it being a ripoff, how is YOU entering your own bid considered a rip off?

Or is an open ended pricing against other people-some of which might be willing to pay more than you-where the rip off is?

Gimme a break. I LOVE Ebay.


User currently offline9VSPO From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 1432 times:

Did you just watch Tonight With Trevor McDonald? It was all about ebay.

User currently offlineAsstChiefMark From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 1432 times:

Quoting Alcregular (Thread starter):
Three Romanians who conned eBay customers

How or why did I read that as Romulans? I've been watching Spike TV too long.

Mark


User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39478 posts, RR: 75
Reply 8, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 1424 times:

Quoting Exile (Reply 3):
I know someone who buys underwear on e-bay!

Occasionally a lady will sell there used thong underwear on eBay. Sometimes they'll even post a photo. For some strange reason, eBay will delete the auction. Funny thing is that it's reach 15 bids going for at least $35 for a panty that started at $1.
Hey there is a market for it, no one gets harmed, let them sell it.



Bring back the Concorde
User currently offlineMatt D From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 9502 posts, RR: 48
Reply 9, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 1423 times:

One thing I wish Ebay would allow is a blind auction format......where no one can see what everyone else is bidding. Then at the end, the winner would be revealed.

User currently offline9VSPO From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 1417 times:

Quoting Superfly (Reply 8):
a lady will sell there used thong underwear on eBay. Sometimes they'll even post a photo. For some strange reason, eBay will delete the auction. Funny thing is that it's reach 15 bids going

You say that like you speak from experience! I hope you don't sniff them too! Big grin


User currently offlineAsstChiefMark From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 1409 times:

Quoting Superfly (Reply 8):
For some strange reason, eBay will delete the auction.

I read the rules a few weeks ago. Used clothing isn't allowed. Of course, if they don't mention certain key words in the title or description, eBay essentially has to assume an item of clothing is new.

What gets me is how much of a demand there is for used socks. Try searching used socks on eBay and you'll see what I mean.

Mark


User currently offlineLindy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 1408 times:

Quoting Superfly (Reply 8):
Hey there is a market for it, no one gets harmed, let them sell it.

You probably wanted to say "let them smell it"  Big grin


User currently offlineBHMBAGLOCK From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 2698 posts, RR: 5
Reply 13, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 1400 times:

Quoting AsstChiefMark (Reply 7):
How or why did I read that as Romulans? I've been watching Spike TV too long.

No, it's the Ferengi you have to watch on Ebay.



Where are all of my respected members going?
User currently offlineAlcregular From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 1386 times:

Quoting Superfly (Reply 8):
For some strange reason, eBay will delete the auction.

I take it you watch the item then? I'll remind myself never to put any undergarments on auction, lol. I've bought undergarment's, but only from the companies on the site.


User currently offlineAsstChiefMark From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 1380 times:

Quoting BHMBAGLOCK (Reply 13):
No, it's the Ferengi you have to watch on Ebay.

That's strange! My ebay username is LtCmdrNog.

Mark


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