Alcregular From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Posted (10 years 6 months 1 week 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 2430 times:
Three Romanians who conned eBay customers out of thousands of pounds have been sentenced to a total of eight years' imprisonment.
The "cell" tricked customers into paying for £300,000 worth of fictitious goods which never arrived.
The man said to be the gang's ringleader, Nicolae Cretanu, 30, of Forest Gate, London, was given a three and a half year term for the fraud.
His wife Adriana, 23, and George Titar, 26, both got two and a half years.
The couple advertised everything from non-existent cars to concert tickets and used 12 aliases and an accomplice to collect the payments.
Their accomplice Titar, of Stratford, London, collected payments from money transfer shops.
Don't use money transfer to send money to anybody who you don't know personally.
Chief Supt Nigel Mawe
The two-year scam was successful because buyers on eBay have to pay before they are sent their goods.
People were told by email that they had been unsuccessful in their first bid but were offered a "second chance" to buy a similar item.
But the goods they purchased never arrived and the trio managed to net at least £300,000 from the scam.
The majority of the cash was sent back to the gang's accomplices in Romania in what the police described as a well-planned and sophisticated fraud.
The racket was finally exposed after suspicious staff at money transfer firm Western Union alerted police.
Chief Superintendent Nigel Mawer who led the operation said the fraud was operated by a "significant cell of Romanians operating in London".
"We believe there were 3,000 victims of this fraud and this type of fraud is still continuing."
He said that up to a £1 billion worth of fraud of this type took place in the UK a year.
And he issued a warning to potential internet auction customers: "Don't use money transfer to send money to anybody who you don't know personally.
"It is not designed for that and Western Union support that and work with us on that," he said.
Chief Supt Mawer added that the cell's accomplices in Romania had been arrested and were awaiting trial.
The criminals used the site to gather information and initially to contact their victims but carried out the fraud separately
He stressed that internet auctions were essentially safe as long as customers followed the "good guidance" on how to buy safely.
In this case people were duped into not following those rules, he said.
Responding to the case, eBay issued a statement saying it was sorry that anyone had suffered through their association with eBay but pointed out the transactions had not taken place on the internet site itself.
"As soon as we were made aware of them we took action. By working with the police we helped ensure that the prosecutions were successful, showing that crime does not pay on eBay.
A spokesman said: "The criminals used the site to gather information and initially to contact their victims but carried out the fraud separately beyond the protected environment we provide.
"Payments were made using Western Union money transfers, which both eBay and Western Union strongly recommend against.
"In fact, eBay.com in the U.S. has banned payment via Western Union and eBay.co.uk will soon be following suit."
As well as pursuing the gang's "cohorts in Romania", Chief Supt Mawer pledged to pursue asset confiscation procedures against the gang with a view to creating a compensation fund for their victims.
The sentencing comes after the trio pleaded guilty at Middlesex Guildhall Crown Court to conspiracy to obtain fraud by deception and money laundering earlier this year.
Their arrests in May were prompted by an investigation by Scotland Yard's specialist economic crime unit.
Superfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 40298 posts, RR: 73
Reply 8, posted (10 years 6 months 1 week 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 2340 times:
Quoting Exile (Reply 3): I know someone who buys underwear on e-bay!
Occasionally a lady will sell there used thong underwear on eBay. Sometimes they'll even post a photo. For some strange reason, eBay will delete the auction. Funny thing is that it's reach 15 bids going for at least $35 for a panty that started at $1.
Hey there is a market for it, no one gets harmed, let them sell it.
9VSPO From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (10 years 6 months 1 week 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 2333 times:
Quoting Superfly (Reply 8): a lady will sell there used thong underwear on eBay. Sometimes they'll even post a photo. For some strange reason, eBay will delete the auction. Funny thing is that it's reach 15 bids going
You say that like you speak from experience! I hope you don't sniff them too!
AsstChiefMark From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (10 years 6 months 1 week 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 2325 times:
Quoting Superfly (Reply 8): For some strange reason, eBay will delete the auction.
I read the rules a few weeks ago. Used clothing isn't allowed. Of course, if they don't mention certain key words in the title or description, eBay essentially has to assume an item of clothing is new.
What gets me is how much of a demand there is for used socks. Try searching used socks on eBay and you'll see what I mean.