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Why Do You Brits Have Such Friggin Long Addresses?  
User currently offlineBirdwatching From Germany, joined Sep 2003, 3818 posts, RR: 51
Posted (8 years 10 months 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 4461 times:

I'm sure most of you non-brits have had the same question once or twice:

Why do you postally-retarded brits (damn I'm going to get flamed for this one  Smile  flamed  ) have such humungpusly long mailing addresses?

Mr. Bean
1234 Tony Blair Court
Pound Hill
Crawley
West Sussex
RH10 3AJ
England
United Kingdom

Now here's a sample address in the states

George Bush
1600 Pennsylvania Avenue
Washington, DC 20500
USA

And one in Germany

Gerhard Schroder
Platz der Republik 1
11011 Berlin
Deutschland

Thats 4 lines on the "continental" ones, and twice as many on the british one.

--------

Second thing that's bugging me:

What are those damn alphanumerical codes in the UK, Canada, Australia etc.

Who can memorize those? How many confusions are there with oh and zero, one and i, etc?

OK, complaining time is over. Good night.  Smile


All the things you probably hate about travelling are warm reminders that I'm home
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User currently offline9VSPO From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (8 years 10 months 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 4453 times:

You had a bad day? Big grin

User currently offlineBirdwatching From Germany, joined Sep 2003, 3818 posts, RR: 51
Reply 2, posted (8 years 10 months 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 4440 times:

Quoting 9VSPO (Reply 1):
You had a bad day?

In fact I did...  Smile Well, answer my question! Or are you still trying to memorize your town's X0xoOXx0$ postal code?



All the things you probably hate about travelling are warm reminders that I'm home
User currently offlineHAJFlyer From Switzerland, joined Sep 2005, 1473 posts, RR: 9
Reply 3, posted (8 years 10 months 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 4437 times:

Quoting Birdwatching (Thread starter):
Washington, DC 20500

Why do you guys in the US have such long zip codes ?

We make do with only 4 digits here in Switzerland and we do not put the canton (that would be your state) on the address either, so I don't think you can argue that US addresses are particularly short.  Wink

Swiss Example:

Peter Muller
Snow road 1
1234 Mountain village
Switzerland


User currently offlineWrenchBender From Canada, joined Feb 2004, 1779 posts, RR: 9
Reply 4, posted (8 years 10 months 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 4433 times:

What's wrong with Canadian Postal Codes. It's always Letter, Number, Letter, space Number, Letter, Number. The starting letter denotes the Province etc.

BTW the difference between this (0) and this (O) are quite obvious to me.  Big grin

WrenchBender
Old Address was K2P 0A9
New Address is T2P 1T2



Silly Pilot, Tricks are for kids.......
User currently offlineTrident3 From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2001, 1013 posts, RR: 2
Reply 5, posted (8 years 10 months 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 4420 times:

The alpha- numeric post codes tell the post office far more than just which city to send the letter to.
eg RH10 3AJ
RH =Redhill sorting office
10 =Crawley
3AJ = Tony Blair Court, Pound Hill.

So in theory the letter could just be addressed
Mr Bean
1234
RH10 3AJ

and the sorting office and postman would know exactly where to delver the letter, no street or town required.

[Edited 2005-10-28 21:54:06]


"We are the warrior race-Tough men in the toughest sport." Brian Noble, Head Coach, Great Britain Rugby League.
User currently offlineHAJFlyer From Switzerland, joined Sep 2005, 1473 posts, RR: 9
Reply 6, posted (8 years 10 months 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 4419 times:

Quoting WrenchBender (Reply 4):
It's always Letter, Number, Letter, space Number, Letter, Number

 Wow! Do they offer any college courses on deciphering ZIP codes in Canada ?  Wink


User currently offlineCheckraiser From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (8 years 10 months 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 4407 times:

The US Zip does almost as much, for example, my zip is 54476

5 - means it is roughly in the middle of the country - WI, IA, MN, ND, SD, MT
4 - Wisconsin (this could also be a 3)
4 - Sort facility (In this case, Wausau)
7
6 - Last two numbers determine the the final post office from its respective sort facility.


User currently offlineBHXFAOTIPYYC From Portugal, joined Jun 2005, 1644 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (8 years 10 months 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 4399 times:

Tradition. They like it that way.

When was the last time you heard a Britsih postie go nuts and shoot all his coworkers ?



Breakfast in BHX, lunch in FAO, dinner in TIP, baggage in YYC.
User currently offlineWrenchBender From Canada, joined Feb 2004, 1779 posts, RR: 9
Reply 9, posted (8 years 10 months 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 4394 times:

Quoting HAJFlyer (Reply 6):
Do they offer any college courses on deciphering ZIP codes in Canada ?

No but on one of my Military Leadership Courses, one of my classmates gave a twenty minute lecture on the Postal Code system. If I remember corretly.

Province, terminal/city, station ,____, Street, unit etc.

Therefore K2P 0A9 is
K= Ontario, 2= Ottawa, P=Downtown, _____, 0= Gloucester St(even #(left side)), A9= Building & apartment #'s (230 + 610),

WrenchBender



Silly Pilot, Tricks are for kids.......
User currently offlineFlyingTexan From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (8 years 10 months 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 4378 times:

Quoting Birdwatching (Thread starter):
Who can memorize those?

That is what an address book is for.


User currently offlineTrident3 From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2001, 1013 posts, RR: 2
Reply 11, posted (8 years 10 months 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 4377 times:

Quoting BHXFAOTIPYYC (Reply 8):
When was the last time you heard a Britsih postie go nuts and shoot all his coworkers ?

That's because, according to a postie mate of mine, they spend all their time in the Post Office club knocking back Stella at £1.30 a pint!  drunk 



"We are the warrior race-Tough men in the toughest sport." Brian Noble, Head Coach, Great Britain Rugby League.
User currently offlineBHMBAGLOCK From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 2698 posts, RR: 5
Reply 12, posted (8 years 10 months 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 4370 times:

Quoting WrenchBender (Reply 4):
What's wrong with Canadian Postal Codes. It's always Letter, Number, Letter, space Number, Letter, Number. The starting letter denotes the Province etc.

This makes as much sense to me as the people who tell me that there is no easier city in the world to find your way in than Washington, DC.



Where are all of my respected members going?
User currently offlineAsstChiefMark From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (8 years 10 months 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 4354 times:

In the USA, a letter can be delivered to the correct address using just the ZIP code.

Take the ZIP code 55082-2387 , for example. The 55082 is Stillwater, MN. The 2387 denotes A SPECIFIC point of delivery. It may be a house, business, or P.O. box. Kinda cool, I think.

Mark


User currently offlineSlamClick From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 10062 posts, RR: 68
Reply 14, posted (8 years 10 months 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 4357 times:

Quoting HAJFlyer (Reply 3):
Why do you guys in the US have such long zip codes ?

What the USPO really wants us to use is "zip plus four" or nine-digit codes. Someone once calculated that nine digits are enough for every man, woman, child, dog and cat in North and South America to have its own zip code.

Last I heard, human sorters can only read the first three.

Of course our post office must be the best in the world. They are known for paying their regional managers (whatever they are called) bonuses for being "above average." All of them - above average. A population that is 100% above its own average. Remarkable!

The longest address I've seen yet was for a Mexican citizen who lived near Cancun, applying for a US FAA license of some sort. His address did not fit in the spaces the FAA allows, and their fields are pretty generous. I understood Mexico and Quintana Roo, and a town, but the rest of it was over my head.



Happiness is not seeing another trite Ste. Maarten photo all week long.
User currently offlineBHXFAOTIPYYC From Portugal, joined Jun 2005, 1644 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (8 years 10 months 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 4354 times:

Quoting Trident3 (Reply 11):

Yeh, I know one in the Wirral - he is THE laziest git ever, and I'm damn sure he helps himself to those err, umm, National Geographics, I only seem to get every second month !!!

I do know Canada use H0H 0H0 as a code to send your Santa fan mail too. Wow, what useless info. Do I win a prize?



Breakfast in BHX, lunch in FAO, dinner in TIP, baggage in YYC.
User currently offlineLindy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (8 years 10 months 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 4343 times:

Quoting BHMBAGLOCK (Reply 12):
This makes as much sense to me as the people who tell me that there is no easier city in the world to find your way in than Washington, DC.

Whats wrong with DC? Its really the easiest city in the world to navigate.
Just letters and numbers, thats it. 4th Street and D Street.
I work at zip 20210 and live at 20007. And its only 5 miles away  Smile

Rafal


User currently offlineJunketeer From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2004, 10 posts, RR: 4
Reply 17, posted (8 years 10 months 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 4342 times:

Quoting Trident3 (Reply 5):
So in theory the letter could just be addressed
Mr Bean
1234
RH10 3AJ

and the sorting office and postman would know exactly where to delver the letter, no street or town required.

So why on earth don't the Royal Mail tell us to do exactly this? Surely it would make it easier for them to sort too?

There are other things make our address system bizarre: first we have counties like Middlesex (incorporating Enfield, Heathrow and Twickenham??) that don't really exist but people still put them on their address and we also (though more rarely now) use latinised abbreviations for counties like Oxon, Cantab and Salop.


User currently offlineTrident3 From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2001, 1013 posts, RR: 2
Reply 18, posted (8 years 10 months 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 4327 times:

Quoting Junketeer (Reply 17):
So why on earth don't the Royal Mail tell us to do exactly this? Surely it would make it easier for them to sort too?

because if the automatic sorters broke down they would be b*ggered.
With all the temps working as posties these days it is best to give them as much info as possible. ie: town ,street, house number, colour of front door, where the letterbox is etc.
Apparently the temps don't get access to the £1.30 Stella.

[Edited 2005-10-28 23:00:42]


"We are the warrior race-Tough men in the toughest sport." Brian Noble, Head Coach, Great Britain Rugby League.
User currently offlineBraybuddy From Ireland, joined Aug 2004, 5678 posts, RR: 32
Reply 19, posted (8 years 10 months 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 4269 times:

Quoting Birdwatching (Thread starter):
Why do you postally-retarded brits (damn I'm going to get flamed for this one ) have such humungpusly long mailing addresses

But they can be interesting:

Miss Millie Lykes,
Itwell Inn,
Tillit,
Herts.


User currently offlineNoelG From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (8 years 10 months 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 4268 times:

British addresses aren't that bad!!

We don't usually include the county or the England AND United Kingdom.

For instance, to post from abroad, you would put:

Mr. Bean
1234 Tony Blair Court
Pound Hill
Crawley,
RH10 3AJ, UK

You wouldn't include the UK if you were within the UK so it would be even shorter.

A lot of the time there is no "Pound Hill" line, for instance, our address would be:

Noel Marsh-Giddings
xx Blah Avenue
Sutton-in-Ashfield
NG17 XXX

(we don't really live on blah avenue but I'm not giving out my real address on the web!).

It's only 4 lines!!

Postcodes - well they're always in the same format, so never any confusion between a zero and a letter o. It's easy to understand - e.g.

NG signifies Nottinghamshire,
17 specifies the postcode zone (in our case Sutton/Kirkby-in-Ashfield), and the last three digits specifies the street (and if it's a large street portions of the street).

It's far easier to decipher than 49617!


User currently offlineBristolFlyer From United Kingdom, joined May 2004, 2290 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (8 years 10 months 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 4253 times:

Most of the UK is not on any sort of grid system so we tend to go by descriptions instead of references like da US does. In rural areas the posties must have a nightmare, a lot of the houses are named (not numbered) and quite often don't post a house name. So a new postie will have a 'mare to start with.

It's one of those quaint English things that we are equally loved & loathed for!

BF



Fortune favours the brave
User currently offline777236ER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (8 years 10 months 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 4249 times:

I once actually got a letter from someone with only my name and 'Manchester' on the envelope. Not bad service for 30p.

User currently offlineNoelG From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 23, posted (8 years 10 months 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 4242 times:

Quoting 777236ER (Reply 22):
Not bad service for 30p.

Agreed. I find it amazing that for 30p you can have a letter arrive the following morning to a remote village in the islands of Scotland, or way down in the Channel Islands. Great value for money!


User currently offlineJunketeer From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2004, 10 posts, RR: 4
Reply 24, posted (8 years 10 months 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 4230 times:

Quoting 777236ER (Reply 22):
Not bad service for 30p.

Indeed and second class is even cheaper at 21p. Though why the hell they bother, I have no idea: surely it costs them even more to separate the mail and then slow it down. Does any other country in the world have second class post?


25 N1120A : In some ways, people just extend their address in the UK as a way of personalizing it. When I lived in London, I could have just put: XXX Queenstown
26 AsstChiefMark : The US Postal Service eliminated domestic air mail as an option many years ago. According to the USPS, most first class mail went by air anyway. Air
27 Aeroflot777 : This is how I send a letter from the U.S. to my family : ó. á. òïóôïæ íÏÓË×Á, òÏÓÓÉÑ õÌ. ôÅÐÌÙÊ óÔÁÎ Ä. 7/2 Ë×.52 1
28 Bill142 : Last time I checked, we had no alphanumerical codes on our mail. We have a numerical post (zip) code, it is four numbers with no letters.
29 Post contains images Wrighbrothers : It's done to confuse/ anoy Americans and others It shows how inteligent we are, why take the simple lazy route when you can laugh at fustrated Americ
30 Wunala : Ours only have 4 numberics in the post code. 2XXX for NSW, 3XXX for VIC etc
31 Post contains images FlyAUA : Austria still rocks flyAUA Goldenmouthway 4 A-1220 Vienna
32 Post contains images Banco : It's called "history". You wouldn't understand. That's about 15 miles from me. Now tell me why you chose such a dump?
33 Babybus : Try using a Japanese address. It makes no sense in time or space. There is absolutely no logic to them. You can't use them to find places either. I ag
34 Jush : Well you can do shorter in England and longer in Germany. My adress in England was. Matthias Brink 14 George Street Taunton Somerset England UK TA2 7D
35 Senliture : In Australia we have express post, which guarantee next business day arrival in metropolitan area across the country, does that count? But the 'norma
36 We're Nuts : I'll go out on this limb: Switzerland: 39770 sq. Km. United States: 9631418 sq. Km. Or 242 times larger. Owned.
37 Bill142 : I could imagine that being confusing if you have to search for the code. But I suppose if you knew the exact location, which if your sending a letter
38 Mhodgson : The difference is, First Class is sorted ahead of Second, so under certain circumstances SC can be as fast as first. First is sorted first, and so al
39 GoAround : Absolutely: Mr A Smith c/o Mrs B Smith House name 14 Street Name Residential Estate Specific Area More general Area County Postcode Country... If you
40 RedDragon : Surely the only difference is that you abbreviate the state to two letters (and I assume whack it on the same line as the city), and put the zip code
41 BHXFAOTIPYYC : Yes here we have "Corrieo Azul" (Blue Mail) which is guaranteed to be, err, more expensive than normal mail.
42 RedDragon : But this is hardly a UK-specific thing - any country can have addresses spread out over as many lines if the person in question is arsey enough!
43 RichardPrice : In the UK, general issue postcodes are not unique and will sometimes apply to as many as 40 locations, almost always in the same street. So if you wan
44 VonRichtofen : Actually, the British (and Canadian) post code system is much more accurate than the US Zip code system. Post codes are accurate within about 100m. I
45 Post contains images VonRichtofen : I see you've moved to YYC
46 WrenchBender : Yes, Got in Saturday, start work Monday, hopefully my furniture gets here by the end of the week(and intact). I am happy to be back in the west. Wren
47 Kaddyuk : Because that is *almost* my address... Are you postinng me a letter?
48 Post contains images FlyingTexan : My friend, We're Nuts, allow me to add: Switzerland population: 7.4 million (estimated) United States population: 297 million (estimated)
49 Post contains links Birdwatching : I don't think so, unless you ordered bulk amounts of LEGO pieces from me last week... you didn't, did you? http://www.bricklink.com/store.asp?p=soere
50 Post contains links Mt99 : Listen to this hilarious NPR report about addresses in Managua, Nicaragua. No street numbers, no street names http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story
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