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User currently offlineKohflot From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (9 years 3 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 831 times:

I've wondered for a while now..

In the Portuguese language, when there's an O after an A with a tilde, is the O really pronounced as an N?

For instance, is Sao Paulo (with a tilde over the a in Sao) really pronounced San Paulo?

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User currently offlineSantosdumont From Brazil, joined Dec 2003, 1201 posts, RR: 4
Reply 1, posted (9 years 3 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 825 times:

Quoting Kohflot (Thread starter):
Sao Paulo (with a tilde over the a in Sao) really pronounced San Paulo?

Not exactly. The a with the tilde is pronounced like a nasalized "a" (the "a" sound moved to the back, behind the teeth)



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User currently offlineHiFi From Brazil, joined Apr 2005, 192 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (9 years 3 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 822 times:

nope.
but I wouldn't really know how to show you what the correct pronounciation is. it's a nasal sound, where you pronounce something similar to the 'san' you are referring to, but you add an 'o' sound at the end..



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User currently offlineSantosdumont From Brazil, joined Dec 2003, 1201 posts, RR: 4
Reply 3, posted (9 years 3 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 818 times:

Try saying "ow" (as in "now"), but move it to the back, behind the teeth.


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User currently offlineScarletHarlot From Canada, joined Jul 2003, 4673 posts, RR: 56
Reply 4, posted (9 years 3 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 809 times:

From Mr. Harlot trying to teach me Portuguese, I can almost guarantee you that you will never be able to say it properly unless you learn how very young.  Smile The way I would try to pronounce it is like "sow", as in a pig, but with the "ow" very nasal. Probably isn't quite right but it's the best I can do.


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User currently offlineKohflot From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (9 years 3 weeks 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 805 times:

This sounds like rolling R's in the Spanish language.. something the rest of us just can't do very easily.. heh

User currently onlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 33190 posts, RR: 71
Reply 6, posted (9 years 3 weeks 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 796 times:

Quoting ScarletHarlot (Reply 4):
The way I would try to pronounce it is like "sow", as in a pig, but with the "ow" very nasal. Probably isn't quite right but it's the best I can do.

That's how I pronounce it. Portuguese nasilization is very difficult to pronounce, especially when the only difference between two words - like vov� and vov� (grandma and grandpa) is a simple matter of open/closed vowel sounds. Nasalization in some other languages - like Hindi - is fairly easy for an English speaker - just pronounce the letter "n" softly after the vowel (like "kursiyaa'n", which means chairs in Hindi). In Portuguese, it gets more complicated than that.



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