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Why Is Alcohol So Expensive In Scandinavia?  
User currently offlineSabena332 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 16454 times:

Last year I have been to Stockholm with my girlfriend, we arrived in our hotel in the evening and decided to drink something at the hotel bar. I can't remember exactly how much we drunk (it was moderate) but I remember very well that my girlfriend had to pay the bill with her credit card because she didn't have enough cash in her wallet (I left my wallet in our room so I drunk for free  Wink).

Since that day I am asking myself why alcohol is so friggin expensive in all Scandinavian countries? Did these countries have problems with excessive alcohol consume in the past so that they introduced astronomic taxes on beer, wine, and booze?

Can anyone enlighten me?

Furthermore, which of the Scandinavian countries is the most expensive when it comes to alcohol?

How much money do you have to spend on drinks on a "normal" Saturday night?

Patrick

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User currently offlineBoeing4ever From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 16446 times:

Quoting Sabena332 (Thread starter):
Why Is Alcohol So Expensive In Scandinavia?

Because you keep drinking all of it.  Smile Can't blame you, it takes a lot to make GKirk look good to the eyes...

  B4e-Forever New Frontiers  

[Edited 2005-11-06 21:16:29]

User currently offlineTheSorcerer From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2005, 1048 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 16433 times:

Pretty much everything in Scandinavia is expensive. I don't know why.
The Sorcerer



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User currently offlineJkw777 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 16431 times:

I was in Norway last weekend with A.netter Mikec... We paid like 98 NOK for two beers. That was stupidly expensive.

I have no idea Patrick, but I'm not happy about it! Big grin

I think Norway is more expensive than Sweden and Denmark if memory serves me right?

Cheers,
Justin  Smile


User currently offlineSabena332 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 16407 times:

Quoting TheSorcerer (Reply 2):
Pretty much everything in Scandinavia is expensive.

You are right, good that I didn't buy cigarettes there, I can imagine that they are pretty expensive as well there.

Quoting Jkw777 (Reply 3):
We paid like 98 NOK for two beers. That was stupidly expensive.

98 NOK for two beers? Ridiculous!

Patrick


User currently offlineJkw777 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 16402 times:

Quoting Sabena332 (Reply 4):
98 NOK for two beers? Ridiculous!

I know, that's almost £10!! But it was well worth it! 21st floor of the SAS Scandinavia overlooking the city of Oslo at night, pretty sweet!  Smile

As confirmed though, everything is seriously overpriced over there. But the place is relatively nice so it makes up for it.

Cheers,
Justin Big grin


User currently offlineRJ100 From Switzerland, joined Nov 2000, 4119 posts, RR: 29
Reply 6, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 16399 times:

Last year in Norway I spent 10 Euros on a 0.4lt beer.  Sad That was in Oslo city center. A little bit outside of Oslo you can get low cost beer for only 8 Euros or so Big grin ...

But I don't know why it is so expensive.

Regards,
RJ100



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User currently offlineBofredrik From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 16370 times:

The answer is: large tax on all alcohol.

Why? Because the gvmt want to reduce the damage that alcohol makes on peoples health.

Alcohol in Sweden can only be found at SYSTEMBOLAGET:

"This is Systembolaget
Systembolaget is a modern, efficient retail enterprise consisting of 420 stores and about 590 local agencies, serving about 2 million customers every week. We supply customers in Sweden with alcoholic drinks such as beer, wine and spirits. Our business is a state owned monopoly, and from the very outset its retailing activities have been separated from any private profit.
The wide product range, the employees knowledge, and freedom of choice that we offer are difficult to find in countries where sales are organized differently."

http://www.systembolaget.se/Applikationer/Knappar/InEnglish/

And ofcourse at resturant and bars.

Generally is prices not so high in Sweden compared with the rest of W Europe.
A pint in a english pub is not so cheap any more... Wink


User currently offlineLogan22L From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 16334 times:

Simple rule of supply and demand. When you got things like this going on, there's not much left for the rest of you:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v167/Miksu/PICT0086.jpg


User currently offlineLO231 From Belgium, joined Sep 2004, 2392 posts, RR: 22
Reply 9, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 16325 times:

Outrageous, bottle of vodka can cost up to 25 EUR there!!!!

Never again...

Regardss,
LO231

Go Poland!



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User currently offlineDoona From Sweden, joined Feb 2005, 3770 posts, RR: 13
Reply 10, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 16314 times:

Quoting Logan22L (Reply 8):
Simple rule of supply and demand. When you got things like this going on, there's not much left for the rest of you:

It's not that simple. Sweden has the highes tax on alcohol in Europe (save for maybe Norway, but I'm not sure about that). 40% of the price of a bottle of wine are taxes. That's why it's expensive.

The government wants to lower that, and pay for it by raising taxes on tobacco, which is fine with me, but guess who got in the way? Yes, as always, the Green Party, which has lost so many supporters over the years, that if we had an election today, they wouldn't be let into the parliament!  banghead 

Cheers
Mats



Sure, we're concerned for our lives. Just not as concerned as saving 9 bucks on a roundtrip to Ft. Myers.
User currently offlineLogan22L From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 16302 times:

Quoting Doona (Reply 10):
It's not that simple. Sweden has the highes tax on alcohol in Europe (save for maybe Norway, but I'm not sure about that). 40% of the price of a bottle of wine are taxes. That's why it's expensive.

Doona - you don't know me, but unless I'm talking about religion or politics, I'm usually just busting balls. That's OYRJA deep-throating a Carlsberg with many more to follow (seriously - that's him).


User currently offlineDoona From Sweden, joined Feb 2005, 3770 posts, RR: 13
Reply 12, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 16298 times:

Quoting Logan22L (Reply 11):
That's OYRJA deep-throating a Carlsberg with many more to follow (seriously - that's him).

Damn, I had this scary sensation that the person with the beer down his throat was an a.netter. Typical Danish behaviour.  box 

Cheers
Mats



Sure, we're concerned for our lives. Just not as concerned as saving 9 bucks on a roundtrip to Ft. Myers.
User currently offlineTPAnx From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 1021 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 16279 times:

Try Russia sometime. Took a cruise from St. Petersburg to Moscow..vodka one dollar, wine two dollars, beer three dollars. Stayed at Armand Hammer's big hotel on our last night. A coke and two vodka-bitter lemons cost
35 dollars.  Sad
TPAnx



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User currently offlineLogan22L From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 16263 times:

Quoting Doona (Reply 12):
Typical Danish behaviour.

You should see him eat bratwurst.  Wink


User currently offlineSwisskloten From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 16250 times:

Not stereotyping anyone but the Swedes in my college drank quite a lot of alcohol. They put the Germans to shame! There was one Swedish woman who could drink anyone under the table even though she was skinny as hell. I KNOW she weighs only 45 or 47 kilograms! I wished I could have put together a drinking contest: the Germans vs the Swedes. Leave us damn Yanks out. We'd never get past the first case!

User currently offlineAvianca From Venezuela, joined Jan 2005, 5925 posts, RR: 40
Reply 16, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 16242 times:

Quoting Sabena332 (Thread starter):
Furthermore, which of the Scandinavian countries is the most expensive when it comes to alcohol?

as what I heared it must be Iceland



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User currently offlineLTBEWR From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 13113 posts, RR: 12
Reply 17, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 16229 times:

I would also add that the taxes on alcohol help to pay the high levels of social services there. If you want those social benefits, then why not tax the 'sins', like alcohol.

User currently offlineDoona From Sweden, joined Feb 2005, 3770 posts, RR: 13
Reply 18, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 16201 times:

Quoting Swisskloten (Reply 15):
Not stereotyping anyone but the Swedes in my college drank quite a lot of alcohol.

Well, we get plenty of training, most people start drinking around the age of 14 nowadays. If you don't have a story from your early teens that involves at least 6 different kinds of booze, projectile vomiting, and being ashamedly picked up by your parents, you're not a real Swede!

Cheers
Mats



Sure, we're concerned for our lives. Just not as concerned as saving 9 bucks on a roundtrip to Ft. Myers.
User currently offlineOYRJA From Denmark, joined Feb 2007, 78 posts, RR: 14
Reply 19, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 16189 times:

Quoting Logan22L (Reply 14):
You should see him eat bratwurst.

You haven't seen me eaten bratwurst yet have ya? Big grin hehehe

Quoting Doona (Reply 12):
Damn, I had this scary sensation that the person with the beer down his throat was an a.netter. Typical Danish behaviour.

Hehehehehe.... One of the few alcoholics here  Wink


User currently offlineBofredrik From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 16186 times:

Quoting Avianca (Reply 16):
as what I heared it must be Iceland

Iceland is not part of "Scandinavia".

"Scandinavia" is: Sweden, Denmark, Norway.


User currently offlineTheSonntag From Germany, joined Jun 2005, 3587 posts, RR: 29
Reply 21, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 16183 times:

Denmark is not that bad, actually, as all Danes drive to Flensburg to buy Danish Ceres Royal (elendig lort  Wink ). As far as I know, 10% of all Danish beers or so are bought Flensburg, a quite large number.

Anyway, you often get a box of Tuborg Grøn (10 litres, 30 bottles à 0,33l) for 85 DKK, which is around 11€, so that is not that bad (normal price is higher, but usually you get these discounts).

Going downtown, however, is another story. In Aarhus you pay 45kr for a beer most places, but this is also due to high wages. I personally almost never went to places like that when I lived in Denmark, we always went to private Erasmus partys or a place called Social Club where you got beer for free for one hour.

In general, everything is expensive in Denmark, however. This is due to high taxes and high wages. Another reason for alcohol being expensive is, though, that people are really drinking too much. This is a problem all over the world, of course, but in Scandinavia people drink way too much I think (a generalisation, but it is true nevertheless)

Michael


User currently offlineAvianca From Venezuela, joined Jan 2005, 5925 posts, RR: 40
Reply 22, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 16167 times:

Quoting Bofredrik (Reply 20):
Iceland is not part of "Scandinavia".

"Scandinavia" is: Sweden, Denmark, Norway.

yes you are right!

but at least Icelandic is a Scandinavian language....



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User currently offlineJap From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 23, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 16163 times:

EVERYTHING is expensive in Scandinavia- London pales in comparison! Why? Because our taxes are sky high. VAT in Denmark is 25% and they take up to 50% of your wage for taxes. It's just utterly insane. I don't know about Norway, but it IS more expensive...

Quoting Bofredrik (Reply 20):
Iceland is not part of "Scandinavia".

"Scandinavia" is: Sweden, Denmark, Norway.

Sweden, Denmark, Norway AND Finland, thank you. Why Finland is a part of Scandinavia remains unknown though  Wink


User currently offlineAvianca From Venezuela, joined Jan 2005, 5925 posts, RR: 40
Reply 24, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 16154 times:

Quoting Jap (Reply 23):
Sweden, Denmark, Norway AND Finland, thank you.

after I did the fault I thought also Iceland is a part of Scandinavia I searched in the internet with the result that only Sweden, Denmark and Norway are part of Scandinavia



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25 Post contains images Doona : True. Saying Finland is a part of Scandinavia is like saying that Germany is one of the BeNeLux countries... Cheers Mats
26 Post contains images Eilennaei : Sorry guys, it just is, in the English usage of today. Need to come to terms with it.
27 Post contains images TPAnx : Kitos TPAnx
28 OYRJA : Denmark isn't that expensive anymore actually. LAst year they cut the alcohol tax with 40%. So if you buy alcohol in a supermarket its very cheap. But
29 Post contains images OYRJA : Sorry but Finland isn't a part of Scandinavia. Finland is a Russian Republic
30 Post contains images Jap : sorry then... only excuse I have is being drugged at the mo- such posts won't happen again
31 Eilennaei : I don't argue with kids.
32 Doona : He misspoke. As Finland is still the eastern half of Sweden, I guess you could say that it is a part of Scandinvia... Cheers Mats
33 PMN : I'm a little worried about the price of alcohol in Scandinavia. I've never been, but on Thursday I fly to Sweden for two gigs, then we go down to Denm
34 Post contains images Kaddyuk : I remember how expensive denmark is... 75kr for a Corona w/lime and a Smirnoff Ice... I thought you guys INVENTED vodka... i couldnt belive my ears..
35 Avianca : Scandinavia incl. Finland is called Fennoscandinavia. (Fennoscandia) cheers[Edited 2005-11-08 01:12:25]
36 Doona : Sounds like a sexually transmitted disease... Cheers Mats
37 Post contains images Avianca : you should know it, you are from there  [Edited 2005-11-08 01:13:08][Edited 2005-11-08 01:13:37]
38 Post contains images Doona : Well, I can't argue with that... Cheers Mats
39 Prebennorholm : "Fennoscandinavia", that's probably correct, but I never heard that word. Scandinavia = Denmark, Norway and Sweden. But we have to accept that it bec
40 Post contains links Eilennaei : Minus the inland of Finland as well. The Vikings never conquered that what is now Finland, only some coastal areas. A report of an attempt from aroun
41 JCS17 : Taxes in Sweden are ridiculous. Not only that, but all alcohol in the country is sold through a government agency, Systembolaget, which sets ridiculou
42 Post contains images Milan320 : everything is expensive in Sweden but alcohol is stupidly expensive. I paid 118SEK yesterday for two pints of beer (o.k. it was an import - London Pri
43 AMSGOT : On the other hand: See what they get back for it! High quality in everything. Sure. Alcohol is quite expensive, but we're catching up here. Their car
44 Doona : That's 59 SEK per pint, which is pretty expensive, but not unusual. Higher-end bars will charge those prices for better beers, but at most pubs a pin
45 Post contains images Pyrex : Have you ever seen Swedes on vacation in the Algarve? Doesn't the E.U. have some sort of problem with that? Doesn't it violate some anti-trust laws o
46 Post contains images Solnabo : The Vodka Belt goes from Iceland via Norway Denmark Poland, up to Sweden over the pond to Finland and the Baltic States into Russia....... SKÅÅÅL M
47 AMSGOT : Have you ever seen Swedes on holiday at charter destinations? The Swedish government tends to forget the Swedes don't learn to control their alcohol
48 Pyrex : And that is precisely the problem with this type of measures, in my opinion. The same thing happens with the U.S. underage drinking laws. If people a
49 Andaman : ...and the Beer Zone goes from Ireland via GB, Holland, Northen Germany, Denmark (Sweden so and so?) to Finland...
50 Andaman : ...what Comes to "expensive Scandinavia" I would like to invite Norway to join the European Union finally and open the markets for free competition, t
51 CPH757 : Spirits are no more expensive in Denmark, not in retail at least. The prices are almost comparable to Germany, and definetely cheaper than UK or Irela
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