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Bumblebees Technically Can't Fly?  
User currently offlineDuke From Canada, joined Sep 1999, 1155 posts, RR: 2
Posted (9 years 1 month 2 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 2799 times:

I have read that it is a scientific fact that bumblebees can't fly! Explanation please?

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User currently offlineKROC From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (9 years 1 month 2 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 2779 times:

www.goggle.com Bee a little proactive.

User currently offlineOly720man From United Kingdom, joined May 2004, 6843 posts, RR: 11
Reply 2, posted (9 years 1 month 2 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 2774 times:

The usual aerodynamics are not applicable to something that size and the equations don't work.... basically.


wheat and dairy can screw up your brain
User currently offlineKlaus From Germany, joined Jul 2001, 21521 posts, RR: 53
Reply 3, posted (9 years 1 month 2 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 2770 times:

According to some rule-of-thumb calculations about power-to-weight ratios and such the bumblebee would fall outside the viable envelope.

But since it apparently can in fact fly, those calculations seem to be somewhat incomplete...


User currently offlineTheredbaron From Mexico, joined Mar 2005, 2329 posts, RR: 9
Reply 4, posted (9 years 1 month 2 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 2763 times:

Also the A380 would not fly according to some armchair A net aerodynamicists....so if the bumble bee can, why not a whale?

TRB



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User currently offlineBeowulf From Singapore, joined Jul 2003, 735 posts, RR: 13
Reply 5, posted (9 years 1 month 2 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 2689 times:

O.K., for some strange reason I like bumblebees; so don't say anything bad about them.  Wink

Wikipedia has an answer to the question.

"A long-held myth of the bumblebee was that, in terms of theoretical aerodynamics, it did not have the capacity (in terms of wing size or beat per second) to achieve flight with the degree of wing loading necessary. This myth became popular after an aerodynamicist in the 1930s stated that a bumblebee was not capable of flight. The statement was based upon an assumption that the bee's wing could be treated as a static aerofoil. However, in reality the bumblebee's flight is characterized by an oscillating wing that shares more characteristics with a helicopter rotor than an aeroplane wing."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bumblebee

In other words, the bumblebee can fly but not in the sense of an airplane's aerodynamic; it's more like a helicopter.

Nick *bumble, bumble, bumble*


User currently offlineSlamClick From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 10062 posts, RR: 68
Reply 6, posted (9 years 1 month 2 weeks 1 day ago) and read 2684 times:

Quoting Beowulf (Reply 5):
it's more like a helicopter.

Helicopters don't fly either. They are so ugly they repel the earth.



Happiness is not seeing another trite Ste. Maarten photo all week long.
User currently offlineEI747SYDNEY From Ireland, joined Oct 2005, 703 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (9 years 1 month 2 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 2662 times:

Quoting KROC (Reply 1):
www.goggle.com Bee a little proactive.

Think you meant www.google.com KROC


Rob  Smile



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User currently offlineAerobalance From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 4683 posts, RR: 46
Reply 8, posted (9 years 1 month 2 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 2658 times:

Thanks for the latest 'buzz' on the bumblebee. Facts that I could not live without....


"Sing a song, play guitar, make it snappy..."
User currently offlineSlamClick From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 10062 posts, RR: 68
Reply 9, posted (9 years 1 month 2 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 2646 times:

They may not be able to fly, but they are world-beaters when it comes to jumping.

One of them managed to jump backwards into my neck. I was northbound on a BSA motorcycle going about 80 mph. The bumblebee was either backing southbound or very slowly northbound. In any event, I hit him stinger-first just to the right of my Adam's apple. Most extraordinarly unpleasant.

That was the only time I've ever been stung by a bumblebee. They are very docile, inoffensive critters. They look menacing, but they are okay.



Happiness is not seeing another trite Ste. Maarten photo all week long.
User currently offlineEGGD From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2001, 12443 posts, RR: 35
Reply 10, posted (9 years 1 month 2 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 2632 times:

Damnit,

The address that KROC posted has all sorts of crap on it.


User currently offlineMir From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 21865 posts, RR: 55
Reply 11, posted (9 years 1 month 2 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 2601 times:

Quoting SlamClick (Reply 6):
Helicopters don't fly either. They are so ugly they repel the earth.

Technically, I believe it's the earth that repels them....  Smile

-Mir



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User currently offlineGary2880 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (9 years 1 month 2 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 2595 times:

Quoting SlamClick (Reply 9):
I hit him stinger-first just to the right of my Adam's apple. Most extraordinarly unpleasant.

I have had that once, unfortunately it was right in the middle of my throte, cant remember how old I was. Very painful indeed. Luckily I wasn't allergic or anything.


User currently offlineSaintsman From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2002, 2065 posts, RR: 2
Reply 13, posted (9 years 1 month 2 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 2584 times:

Quoting Duke (Thread starter):
I have read that it is a scientific fact that bumblebees can't fly

Do the bees know that?

Which sort of reminds me.....

The world expert on European wasps and the sounds that they make is taking a stroll down his local high street.

As he passes by the record shop, a sign catches his eye.

"Just Released: New LP - Wasps of the World & the sounds that they make - available now!"

Unable to resist the temptation, the man goes into the shop.

"I am the world expert on European wasps and the sounds that they make. I'd very much like to listen to the new LP you have advertised in the window."

"Certainly, Sir," says the young man behind the counter. "If you'd like to step into the booth and put on the headphones, I'll put the LP on for you."

The world expert on European wasps goes into the booth and puts on the earphones.

Ten minutes later, he comes out of the booth and announces, "I am the world expert on European wasps and the sounds that they make and yet I recognised none of those."

"I'm sorry sir," says the young assistant. "If you'd care to step into the booth, I can let you have another 10 minutes."

The world expert on European wasps and the sounds that they make steps back into the booth and replaces the headphones.

Ten minutes later, he comes out of the booth shaking his head.

"I don't understand it," he says, "I am the world expert on European wasps and the sounds that they make, and yet I still can't recognise any of those!"

"I'm terribly sorry, sir" says the young man, "perhaps if you'd like to step into the booth again, you could have 5 more minutes."

Sighing, the world expert on European wasps and the sounds that they make steps back into the booth.

Five minutes later, he comes out again, clearly agitated.

"I am the world expert on European wasps and the sounds that they make and yet I have recognised none of the wasps on this LP."

"I really am terribly sorry," says the young assistant. "I've just realised I was playing you the bee side."


User currently offlineWukka From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 1017 posts, RR: 16
Reply 14, posted (9 years 1 month 2 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 2546 times:

Book I read years ago... I think it's part of a series, "Bees Can't Fly but they Do". Bunch of neat trivia that's not only about the aerodynamics of bees.

I could get you the author and whatnot, but "Wukkas are too Lazy".  Smile



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