TWISTEDWHISPER From Sweden, joined Aug 2003, 716 posts, RR: 2 Posted (10 years 3 months 4 days ago) and read 1155 times:
On the 8:th of October, 2001, at the Italian airport Linate, flight SK686 crashed into a German Cessna Citation, killing 122 people.
The reason for the crash was that the pilot on the Cessna mistook taxiway Romeo 6 instead of Romeo 5.
Now 70 families is suing Cessna because the think that Cessna is responsible for causing the accident. The fact that the accident was due to pilot error seems to be irrelevant.
Do you agree, is Cessna responsible, or at least have a part-responsibility for this accident?
How far do you think the responsibility for a producer of an item reaches?
Is he/she responsible that the item is used in a way that it was meant to?
Just like the manufacturers of firearms . . . . who finally, and justly, have protection against frivilous lawsuits . . . I don't see how one could possibly see a clear case for the item in the Thread Opener or the item here in Alaska.
Pilot error . . . no fauilt of Cessna . . . they didn't design the plane to ignore Taxiways with the number 5 in them . . .
Jap From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (10 years 3 months 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 1100 times:
Que?? someone mistook 6 for 5, and it's the a/c's fault? Makes absolutely no sense. They should drop it. It ain't going to bring anyone back, just remind them of the person they lost every time they spend a nickle if they win the lawsuit...
KBFIspotter From United States of America, joined May 2005, 729 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (10 years 3 months 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 1083 times:
It also reminds me of the crash of Carnahan (did I spell this right?). He was the Governor of Missouri and running for the US senate when his plane went down, killing all on board. It was a twin Cessna 335 being flown by his son, and the report states that the pilot experienced spatial disorientation in IMC. He reported that his primary attitude indicator was malfunctioning, and what gets me, is that he did not refer to his backup on the right panel, which was in perfect working order.. Well, to get to the point, Carnahan's wife and family sued Cessna and the maker of the AI, and won a huge sum of money from both. http://www.ainonline.com/issues/07_02/07_02_spartialdisorienpg14.html
Also, the air traffic controller did not ask the pilot for readbacks, and the ground radar was down, and was very foggy. He spoke BOTH English and Italian with the pilot of the Cessna, which added to the confusion.
Sure, we're concerned for our lives. Just not as concerned as saving 9 bucks on a roundtrip to Ft. Myers.
TWISTEDWHISPER From Sweden, joined Aug 2003, 716 posts, RR: 2
Reply 8, posted (10 years 3 months 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 1067 times:
Quoting Doona (Reply 7): Also, the air traffic controller did not ask the pilot for readbacks, and the ground radar was down, and was very foggy. He spoke BOTH English and Italian with the pilot of the Cessna, which added to the confusion
Yes, but still, Cessna is not to blame for human errors, right?
And, I was under the influence that the Cessna pilot was German... I might be wrong though...
And now I am reading that they sued Cessna in the US and were very disappointed when the judge ruled that this lawsuit should be held in Italy...
Call me ironic, sarcastic or just a plain bad person but I believe that they wanted it in the US because the amount of money from these kind of lawsuits is usually higher in the US than in Europe... Is this lawsuit just an attempt to make a buck, or are they sincere with this..? I wonder what they think Cessna could have done to prevent this accident...
Matt D From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 9502 posts, RR: 42
Reply 10, posted (10 years 3 months 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 1011 times:
They're going after Cessna (and the gun makers)-just call this a wild hunch-not because the pilots and shooters are at fault, but because Cessna probably has much deeper pockets than the pilot.
Today, it no longer MATTERS who's at fault or not. An incident occurs. Look for any party connected somehow to the incident that has the most money. And that's who you try to pin the blame on because that's where the most money is.
They're not going to waste their time going after some little weekend pilot. Chances are, even if they siezed everything he owns and attached his wages for the next 20 years, a settlement or judgement NOW from Cessna (or some other big company) can offer up a hundred times more $$$.
SlamClick From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 10062 posts, RR: 65
Reply 12, posted (10 years 3 months 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 993 times:
Quoting Matt D (Reply 10): , but because Cessna probably has much deeper pockets than the pilot.
Sort of like the motivation of people who would let their plump little ten-year-old boys sleep with Michael Jackson. We can always pretend we thought there were innocent reasons why a forty year old man would want to sleep with plump little ten-year-old boys in the first place and HEY! There might be money it it.
Happiness is not seeing another trite Ste. Maarten photo all week long.