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Topic: Post Screening - Overexposed And Soft
Username: gonzalu
Posted 2012-11-18 06:19:47 and read 583 times.

Hello all, long time no speak. I am posting about two recent rejections that I need help with figuring out just what I can do to improve them if any.

First up: SOFT OVEREXPOSED

http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/rejections/big/APPEAL_20121117_u1352682839.4376d80_2915_1200.jpg

As far as my levels measure up, the brightest white not being a reflection is around 91 on a scale of 100 (or about 249-251 on a 255 level scale) As for soft, where should I be looking? I actually thought I may have overdone it a bit.

Second up: SOFT

http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/rejections/big/20121117_h1352684335.7448d80_1618_1600.jpg

Again, the entire image is quite sharp. Even the original is quite sharp and it started life as a 7000+ pixel original. Is the perception that the front of the engine nacelle is soft? That area will always seem soft as it is a rounded soft metal piece. Please look carefully at the rivets and other supporting evidence in the image...

Either way, if I am still considered wrong, could a screener willing to do so show me graphically a better result I should go for in these two? The second one I have no appealed so it may stand a chance. The first one has been appealed and rejected once more so that one is binned 

Thank you...

Topic: RE: Post Screening - Overexposed And Soft
Username: vikkyvik
Posted 2012-11-18 10:13:11 and read 583 times.

First one does look a tiny bit soft. Could use a bit of sharpening overall. Doesn't look overexposed to me. Only a few small areas are blown out in any channel, and it doesn't really look too bright either.

Second one looks OK to me, though it probably could stand a bit of sharpening without being oversharpened. But looks sharp enough as it is.

Topic: RE: Post Screening - Overexposed And Soft
Username: gonzalu
Posted 2012-11-18 18:27:37 and read 583 times.

Thanks Vik, but I think it would be splitting hairs without any real gain pro or con. I have always felt if the proposed fixes are so minor, there is enough threshold left for acceptance, no? I always thought the screening is done with a bias to accept not to reject. So given that, I believe these are certainly within the possibility of being acceptable.

I gave the second another pass of SS (30, 0.2) and it is very oversharpened in some areas, less so in others so I don;t think that's the case here. That's why I wanted to hear from the screener that rejected it if possible or another screener that could perhaps point at a bad spot in it. All the jaggies in the image are within the range usually acceptable for my images in the db lately.

Topic: RE: Post Screening - Overexposed And Soft
Username: dlowwa
Posted 2012-11-18 19:22:22 and read 583 times.

Quoting gonzalu (Thread starter):
Again, the entire image is quite sharp. Even the original is quite sharp and it started life as a 7000+ pixel original. Is the perception that the front of the engine nacelle is soft?

I didn't screen it, but just a general observation: it is very difficult to make 1600 pix images look sharp. Easy solution is just submit at a smaller size, but if you feel like pressing ahead with this one, the whole top half looks a little soft.

Topic: RE: Post Screening - Overexposed And Soft
Username: gonzalu
Posted 2012-11-19 07:47:04 and read 583 times.

Thanks Dana. You know me and I love to press on :P

I have re-edited and reshapened and hope it looks better. I don't think the image is difficult to sharpen as it was close to full frame at 36mp there is enough data recorded. I have a few 1600px images in the db I can use for reference.

Cheers.


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