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Topic: Pre-Screening (Tomskii)
Username: Tomskii
Posted 2012-02-20 07:47:16 and read 6470 times.

Hey guys,

went out for spotting today and here's my first pic. I'm lets say fairly new to this when you compare me to others on here so I'm looking for valuable feedback on how to improve my aircraft photography and getting my images on Airliners.net

I think that this picture: http://www.airliners.net/ufview.file?id=145937&filename=phpXQhIpv.jpeg might need a tad sharpening but I'm not sure as I'm not working on my Photoshop pc but on my work pc.

Thanks for helping me out in advance!

Tom

Topic: RE: Pre-Screening (Tomskii)
Username: dazbo5
Posted 2012-02-20 08:04:41 and read 6474 times.

Quoting Tomskii (Thread starter):
might need a tad sharpening but I'm not sure as I'm not working on my Photoshop pc but on my work pc.

Hi Tom,

Composition looks fine although i'd probably crop a little more from the left of the frame to even the amount of blue sky left and right of the aircraft. The front of the aircraft is a little blurry and even with more sharpenig, it's unlikely you'll able to recover that one I'm afraid. This is a common aircraft with lots of photos in the database so standards are a little higher than normal. What aperture / shutter speed did you use? I've not seen the histogram, but the contrast looks like it needs increasing a little too. Other than that, it's not a bad try.

Darren

Topic: RE: Pre-Screening (Tomskii)
Username: Tomskii
Posted 2012-02-20 08:24:02 and read 6467 times.

Hi Darren,

Thanks for the info! I will be uploading more pics soon. As for the histogram and such:
Program (Aperture priority) A
Aperture: f8
Shutter Speed: 1/320s so it's a bit on the slow side, but that's because I've overexposed the pic a bit to keep the noise to a minimum.

Histogram: http://www.airliners.net/aviation-photos/misc/uf/145937/phpQB1nxb.jpeg

EDIT: What do you think about this one? Think my shutter speed might have been a tad too slow as well but I prefer hearing it from someone who has 'the eye'. It seems maybe a tad oversharpened to me but again I might be wrong!

http://www.airliners.net/uf/145937/phpTwDLf9.jpeg

[Edited 2012-02-20 08:39:37]

EDIT2: Or this one?

http://www.airliners.net/uf/145937/phpZqR68K.jpeg


[Edited 2012-02-20 08:48:34]

Topic: RE: Pre-Screening (Tomskii)
Username: dazbo5
Posted 2012-02-20 08:43:37 and read 6459 times.

Maybe that's why the front of the aircraft is a little blurry compared to the rest of the frame. There's no problem in using ISO 200, most dSLR's produce little noise at ISO 200 to give you a little more shutter speed if needed. I regularly use ISO 200 in the winter months when the light isn't as strong so don't worry about increasing it. The histogram confirms the contrast I mentioned above.

Darren

Topic: RE: Pre-Screening (Tomskii)
Username: dlowwa
Posted 2012-02-20 08:48:44 and read 6458 times.

First one is blurry and flat; second one is better, but too high in the frame.

Topic: RE: Pre-Screening (Tomskii)
Username: Tomskii
Posted 2012-02-20 08:51:32 and read 6456 times.

Quoting dazbo5 (Reply 3):

Thanks darren,

I'm going out thursday morning again for spotting at BRU so. As for know please look at the 2 foto's in the editted msg above. Thanks again for all your help!

Tom

Topic: RE: Pre-Screening (Tomskii)
Username: dlowwa
Posted 2012-02-20 09:21:38 and read 6456 times.

Quoting Tomskii (Reply 5):
please look at the 2 foto'

It is soft. You might also want to convert the colorspace for your images to sRGB before you upload, as that's how they will be displayed on the web/when they are screened. Otherwise you are going to be seeing a difference in the colors between what you are working on, and what you upload.

Topic: RE: Pre-Screening (Tomskii)
Username: Tomskii
Posted 2012-02-20 09:33:01 and read 6451 times.

It should already be set to sRGB, as for the 2nd pic. I suppose I should crop until the space below the plane equals the space above.

Topic: RE: Pre-Screening (Tomskii)
Username: dlowwa
Posted 2012-02-20 10:34:20 and read 6442 times.

Quoting Tomskii (Reply 7):
It should already be set to sRGB, as for the 2nd pic

It is not. It is currently set to Adobe RGB, and when opening the file in Photoshop, the colors are quite different from how they are displayed in the browser.

Topic: RE: Pre-Screening (Tomskii)
Username: Tomskii
Posted 2012-02-21 03:33:43 and read 6418 times.

Allrighty, i'll make sure to change that in photoshop then. As for the picture the flat one was the SN airbus Insuppose and the second soft one is the JetairFly right?

Topic: RE: Pre-Screening (Tomskii)
Username: Tomskii
Posted 2012-02-22 02:03:51 and read 6388 times.

What about this? It's the JetairFly again but recropped it and sharpened it. It is also in sRGB 16-bit. I feel like I might have oversharpened it, or maybe I'm just wrong. I used a guideline to put the plane in the middle but I still feel like (might be wrong again) that it's slightly too high in frame.

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/33281487/DSC_0015.jpg

Thanks for the help,

Tom

Topic: RE: Pre-Screening (Tomskii)
Username: dazbo5
Posted 2012-02-22 04:11:17 and read 6382 times.

Quoting Tomskii (Reply 10):
feel like I might have oversharpened it

It is a little oversharp and too high in the frame.

Darren

Topic: RE: Pre-Screening (Tomskii)
Username: Tomskii
Posted 2012-02-22 06:39:05 and read 6382 times.

Sounds a bit dumb probably but how much should I get the airplane down in the picture. Seems I have some issues distinguishing the right ratio between upper and lower part of the plane at that angle.

Topic: RE: Pre-Screening (Tomskii)
Username: dlowwa
Posted 2012-02-22 09:57:32 and read 6370 times.

Sharpening should be ok, but it is slightly high.

Quoting Tomskii (Reply 12):
how much should I get the airplane down in the picture.

It's not an exact science, but there are two things that can help: 1) try looking at the thumbnail version to get an idea of the overall centering, and 2) don't forget to consider the tail fin, as it is also part of the aircraft.

Topic: RE: Pre-Screening (Tomskii)
Username: Tomskii
Posted 2012-02-22 10:32:22 and read 6367 times.

Quoting dlowwa (Reply 13):
It's not an exact science, but there are two things that can help: 1) try looking at the thumbnail version to get an idea of the overall centering, and 2) don't forget to consider the tail fin, as it is also part of the aircraft.

Thanks,

That's where I go wrong I guess: the tail. As for the sharpening: you would bring it down just slightly if I understand you well?

Tom

Topic: RE: Pre-Screening (Tomskii)
Username: dlowwa
Posted 2012-02-22 15:01:50 and read 6354 times.

Sharpening looks ok overall, like I said. I can only see a few jaggies on the flaps.

Topic: RE: Pre-Screening (Tomskii)
Username: Tomskii
Posted 2012-02-23 04:20:28 and read 6347 times.

Quoting dlowwa (Reply 15):
Sharpening looks ok overall, like I said. I can only see a few jaggies on the flaps.

Jep noticed that too. So if I just bring the pic a bit down and upload it to the queue I should be ok right?

EDIT: Wasn't exactly what you'd call nice weather today but hey. Went to the BRU General Aviation area and some Italian diplomatic just arrived in his D'assault Falcon. What do you think?

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/33281487/DSC_0113.jpg

[Edited 2012-02-23 04:59:15]

Topic: RE: Pre-Screening (Tomskii)
Username: dlowwa
Posted 2012-02-23 10:20:23 and read 6336 times.

Unlevel and very poor contrast I'm afraid.

Topic: RE: Pre-Screening (Tomskii)
Username: Tomskii
Posted 2012-02-23 10:33:25 and read 6332 times.

Both things can be arranged, will post re-edited tomorrow.

Topic: RE: Pre-Screening (Tomskii)
Username: Tomskii
Posted 2012-02-24 05:38:11 and read 6320 times.

How's this? I did a small rotate on the pic CW as I thought the pic was not level (going down) from right to left. Secondly adjusted contrast.

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/33281487/DSC_0113%28re-edit%29.jpg

EDIT: Might be a bit low in frame now though, or is it just me?

[Edited 2012-02-24 05:38:59]

Topic: RE: Pre-Screening (Tomskii)
Username: Tomskii
Posted 2012-02-24 06:49:10 and read 6315 times.

And I re-edited OO-JAS the jetairfly 737:

Is this better or did I put it too low in frame now? How's the sharpening?

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/33281487/DSC_0015%282%29.jpg

Topic: RE: Pre-Screening (Tomskii)
Username: dlowwa
Posted 2012-02-24 15:57:22 and read 6293 times.

Quoting Tomskii (Reply 19):
How's this?

Still needs a tiny bit of cw rotation, and contrast is still not great, though I don't think you'll be able to do much more to improve it.

Quoting Tomskii (Reply 20):
And I re-edited OO-JAS the jetairfly 737:

Maybe a touch low, and color a bit strong, but might be passable. Sharpening should be fine.

Topic: RE: Pre-Screening (Tomskii)
Username: Tomskii
Posted 2012-02-24 16:03:10 and read 6292 times.

Cheers,

I'll get the colors down a bit and then see how it goes in the queue, do you think it stands a chance?

Topic: RE: Pre-Screening (Tomskii)
Username: dlowwa
Posted 2012-02-24 19:52:29 and read 6277 times.

Quoting Tomskii (Reply 22):
do you think it stands a chance?

With minor corrections, yes.

Topic: RE: Pre-Screening (Tomskii)
Username: Tomskii
Posted 2012-02-25 01:34:36 and read 6273 times.

Hi again Dana,

Brought the saturation of the colors down a bit and reworked from the original to crop again. This time I lowered it a bit in comparison to the first edit, but it is higher than the second edit.

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/33281487/DSC_0015%283%29.jpg

Topic: RE: Pre-Screening (Tomskii)
Username: dlowwa
Posted 2012-02-25 15:11:50 and read 6253 times.

Color still looks a bit off, but might be worth a try as is.

Topic: RE: Pre-Screening (Tomskii)
Username: Tomskii
Posted 2012-02-26 02:08:32 and read 6254 times.

Well to me the colors are quite right as I see those planes regularly, but I suppose you mean the sky.

Once again thanks for all help, pic has been uploaded,

Tom

Topic: RE: Pre-Screening (Tomskii)
Username: Tomskii
Posted 2012-03-04 10:48:52 and read 6209 times.

Dana again thanks for all your help, has paid off! First acceptance on a.net

Topic: RE: Pre-Screening (Tomskii)
Username: Tomskii
Posted 2012-03-10 03:02:27 and read 6150 times.

2 more pics from today. Tell me what you think. 1st one has received 1° of CW. Second one I wasn't sure.

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/33281487/DSC_0003.jpg

Not sure if it needs a bit more lighting or not.
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/33281487/DSC_0013.jpg

Topic: RE: Pre-Screening (Tomskii)
Username: dlowwa
Posted 2012-03-10 03:11:04 and read 6143 times.

Both have very poor (low) contrast. The LH also seems a bit blurry.

Topic: RE: Pre-Screening (Tomskii)
Username: Tomskii
Posted 2012-03-10 03:30:06 and read 6140 times.

Quoting dlowwa (Reply 29):
The LH also seems a bit blurry.

Mmm weird I would've thought you would've said that about the SN one and not the LH one. Anyways I'll give the contrast a boost of the first one.

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/33281487/DSC_0003%282%29.jpg How's this?

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/33281487/DSC_0013%282%29.jpg

[Edited 2012-03-10 04:29:02]

Topic: RE: Pre-Screening (Tomskii)
Username: dlowwa
Posted 2012-03-10 11:58:22 and read 6116 times.

I can see you've increased the contrast a lot on both, but to be honest because the light was pretty terrible to begin with, they only look a little bit better. You can try adding more contrast, but the benefit won't be that significant. Better to wait for nicer conditions next time.

Topic: RE: Pre-Screening (Tomskii)
Username: Tomskii
Posted 2012-03-10 12:30:12 and read 6115 times.

Quoting dlowwa (Reply 31):
I can see you've increased the contrast a lot on both, but to be honest because the light was pretty terrible to begin with, they only look a little bit better. You can try adding more contrast, but the benefit won't be that significant. Better to wait for nicer conditions next time.

Conditions indeed where sh*t, so if I understand you well you think it won't have any big effect if I work on the contrast anymore due to the poor light.

Topic: RE: Pre-Screening (Tomskii)
Username: Tomskii
Posted 2012-03-14 10:53:06 and read 6052 times.

Picture from today (sun was setting) so I don't know if the orangy cast is an issue (as it's the normal lighting of the sun on the plane at this time of the day. Secondly I didn't exactly know how to crop a cockpit picture properly so feel free to give me advice on that  !

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/33281487/DSC_0044.jpg

Topic: RE: Pre-Screening (Tomskii)
Username: Tomskii
Posted 2012-03-14 12:05:06 and read 6040 times.

And this one:

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/33281487/DSC_0025.jpg

Topic: RE: Pre-Screening (Tomskii)
Username: dlowwa
Posted 2012-03-14 14:39:19 and read 6030 times.

Quoting Tomskii (Reply 34):
And this one:

Dark, and really poor/unmotivated crop.

Topic: RE: Pre-Screening (Tomskii)
Username: Tomskii
Posted 2012-03-14 14:51:13 and read 6029 times.

And the first one? How would you crop it? Exclude the engine and just use the nose till the fwd door?

Topic: RE: Pre-Screening (Tomskii)
Username: dlowwa
Posted 2012-03-14 14:59:44 and read 6026 times.

Quoting Tomskii (Reply 36):
And the first one?

Crop is better, but also a bit dark.

Quoting Tomskii (Reply 36):
How would you crop it?

Pretty much any way other than what you did. Why did you crop it like that? Any specific reason, or was that simply what came out of the camera? Take a look through the database at previously accepted images to get an idea of what kind of crop is acceptable. That you can't find any similar to yours would be a good hint that such a crop wouldn't be acceptable.

Topic: RE: Pre-Screening (Tomskii)
Username: Tomskii
Posted 2012-03-14 15:05:24 and read 6027 times.

So if I brighten the LX one up a bit, crop should be ok? Anyways I'll take a look at the db to have an idea how to crop it.  

Topic: RE: Pre-Screening (Tomskii)
Username: Tomskii
Posted 2012-03-15 09:25:59 and read 6004 times.

How's this now Dana? http://dl.dropbox.com/u/33281487/DSC_0044%282%29.jpg

EDIT: I suppose this one will not be able to make it because of quality/oversharpening? Or am I wrong?

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/33281487/DSC_0002.jpg

[Edited 2012-03-15 09:56:24]

EDIT2: Not sure about the cropping here and I suppose it might be a bit dark as well? http://dl.dropbox.com/u/33281487/DSC_0040.jpg


[Edited 2012-03-15 10:24:15]

Topic: RE: Pre-Screening (Tomskii)
Username: Tomskii
Posted 2012-03-15 13:07:55 and read 5987 times.

And another one: I suppose (after looking up some images on Airliners.net) that this crop isn't good for Airliners.net either? Just want the confirmation  http://dl.dropbox.com/u/33281487/DSC_0007.jpg

Also please look at the pictures above, thanks for your help Dana!

Topic: RE: Pre-Screening (Tomskii)
Username: dlowwa
Posted 2012-03-15 14:58:02 and read 5959 times.

Quoting Tomskii (Reply 39):
How's this now Dana?

Should have a pretty good chance.

Quoting Tomskii (Reply 39):
EDIT: I suppose this one will not be able to make it because of quality/oversharpening? Or am I wrong?

Maybe a bit os, but bigger problem is the harsh contrast.

Quoting Tomskii (Reply 39):
EDIT2

Looks ok

Quoting Tomskii (Reply 40):
And another one: I suppose (after looking up some images on Airliners.net) that this crop isn't good for Airliners.net either?

Better than the TAP, but if you want to be really safe, try to avoid cutting the engine.

Topic: RE: Pre-Screening (Tomskii)
Username: Tomskii
Posted 2012-03-15 15:21:02 and read 5956 times.

Quoting dlowwa (Reply 41):
Maybe a bit os, but bigger problem is the harsh contrast.

Not sure what you mean by os?   I've brought the contrast down a bit:

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/33281487/DSC_0002%282%29.jpg

Topic: RE: Pre-Screening (Tomskii)
Username: dlowwa
Posted 2012-03-15 16:15:46 and read 5941 times.

Quoting Tomskii (Reply 42):
Not sure what you mean by os?

os = Over Sharpened.

Quoting Tomskii (Reply 42):
I've brought the contrast down a bit:

Slight yellow tint, but otherwise looks passable.

Topic: RE: Pre-Screening (Tomskii)
Username: Tomskii
Posted 2012-03-16 08:32:30 and read 5920 times.

Better? http://dl.dropbox.com/u/33281487/DSC_0002%283%29.jpg

Topic: RE: Pre-Screening (Tomskii)
Username: dlowwa
Posted 2012-03-16 11:01:24 and read 5905 times.

Quoting Tomskii (Reply 44):
Better?

Should have a good chance.

Topic: RE: Pre-Screening (Tomskii)
Username: Tomskii
Posted 2012-03-23 11:10:02 and read 5805 times.

The LX has been rejected, because I've left too much space on the top of the plane. Oh well, just a small re-edit and done  

Topic: RE: Pre-Screening (Tomskii)
Username: Tomskii
Posted 2012-03-28 09:47:34 and read 5754 times.

What do you think about these:

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/33281487/DSC_0021.jpg

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/33281487/DSC_0019.jpg

Not sure about cropping on the last one.

EDIT:

Suppose this one is too high in frame?

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/33281487/DSC_0027.jpg

[Edited 2012-03-28 09:54:49]

Topic: RE: Pre-Screening (Tomskii)
Username: dlowwa
Posted 2012-03-28 11:02:25 and read 5744 times.

All three are a little soft and flat, but otherwise ok. Third one is a little low, but should be passable. It also has some dust spots.

Topic: RE: Pre-Screening (Tomskii)
Username: Tomskii
Posted 2012-03-28 11:53:37 and read 5744 times.

Quoting dlowwa (Reply 48):
All three are a little soft and flat, but otherwise ok. Third one is a little low, but should be passable. It also has some dust spots.

So a bit more contrast I suppose. As for the dust spots, only visible on the third?

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/33281487/DSC_0021%282%29.jpg

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/33281487/DSC_0019%282%29.jpg

[Edited 2012-03-28 12:03:47]

Topic: RE: Pre-Screening (Tomskii)
Username: dlowwa
Posted 2012-03-28 14:11:55 and read 5735 times.

Quoting Tomskii (Reply 49):
As for the dust spots, only visible on the third?

As far as I could see, yes.

Topic: RE: Pre-Screening (Tomskii)
Username: Tomskii
Posted 2012-03-28 14:23:09 and read 5735 times.

Quoting dlowwa (Reply 50):

As far as I could see, yes.

Two last pics are good now as for contrast and sharpness?

Topic: RE: Pre-Screening (Tomskii)
Username: dlowwa
Posted 2012-03-28 15:12:37 and read 5732 times.

Sharpness is ok, the second one looks a little overexposed now. Light is quite marginal for that one.

Topic: RE: Pre-Screening (Tomskii)
Username: Tomskii
Posted 2012-03-29 00:50:18 and read 5720 times.

Ok thanks! I will bring the exposure down a bit and see what that does.

Topic: RE: Pre-Screening (Tomskii)
Username: Tomskii
Posted 2012-03-29 02:17:43 and read 5718 times.

Ok now?

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/33281487/DSC_0019%283%29.jpg

[Edited 2012-03-29 02:19:04]

[Edited 2012-03-29 02:20:39]
Adjusted a bit of brightness here as well so the nose isn't as overexposed and details are better readable  Smile Tell me if you like the previous version better or this one.
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/33281487/DSC_0021%283%29.jpg


[Edited 2012-03-29 02:40:57]

Topic: RE: Pre-Screening (Tomskii)
Username: Tomskii
Posted 2012-03-29 06:08:08 and read 5700 times.

I removed the dust spots on the JAF and increased contrast a bit. Tell me what you think (and don't forget the previous post of course ^^)

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/33281487/DSC_0027%282%29.jpg

Topic: RE: Pre-Screening (Tomskii)
Username: dlowwa
Posted 2012-03-29 08:30:19 and read 5692 times.

Your links seem to be broken.

Topic: RE: Pre-Screening (Tomskii)
Username: Tomskii
Posted 2012-03-29 09:39:55 and read 5690 times.

Quoting dlowwa (Reply 56):
Your links seem to be broken.

Do they? I still can see the pics.
Even after a hard refresh.

[Edited 2012-03-29 09:40:42]

Topic: RE: Pre-Screening (Tomskii)
Username: dlowwa
Posted 2012-03-29 12:32:15 and read 5681 times.

Working now. Second should be fine; first is a bit contrasty but will probably be ok.

Topic: RE: Pre-Screening (Tomskii)
Username: Tomskii
Posted 2012-03-29 12:47:57 and read 5680 times.

And what about the JAF? Is that one ok or would you advise not to upload it because of the light?

Topic: RE: Pre-Screening (Tomskii)
Username: dlowwa
Posted 2012-03-29 14:15:20 and read 5675 times.

Quoting Tomskii (Reply 59):
And what about the JAF? Is that one ok or would you advise not to upload it because of the light?

Contrast is a bit harsh, but I've seen worse, so might as well give it a shot.

Topic: RE: Pre-Screening (Tomskii)
Username: Tomskii
Posted 2012-03-29 14:25:10 and read 5673 times.

Quoting dlowwa (Reply 60):
Contrast is a bit harsh, but I've seen worse, so might as well give it a shot.

Reduced the contrast slightly. Thanks again for your help! Have I mentioned that the KL E190 made it AND is a first addition to the database because it is new?

Topic: RE: Pre-Screening (Tomskii)
Username: Tomskii
Posted 2012-04-12 11:22:14 and read 5574 times.

Another one:

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/33281487/DSC_0032.jpg

I suppose it might be a tad too dark and probably it has some other issues, anyways interested in your opinion. I also think it might be a bit low in frame?

[Edited 2012-04-12 11:26:56]

Topic: RE: Pre-Screening (Tomskii)
Username: dlowwa
Posted 2012-04-12 11:44:06 and read 5567 times.

Quoting Tomskii (Reply 62):
Another one:

A touch soft, but should otherwise be ok.

Topic: RE: Pre-Screening (Tomskii)
Username: Tomskii
Posted 2012-04-12 11:45:18 and read 5569 times.

Really, not too dark or anything? (Lol must be weird to see me surprised?)

EDIT:

Better?
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/33281487/DSC_0032%282%29.jpg

[Edited 2012-04-12 11:47:09]

Topic: RE: Pre-Screening (Tomskii)
Username: dlowwa
Posted 2012-04-12 11:52:55 and read 5564 times.

Quoting Tomskii (Reply 64):
Really, not too dark or anything?

Well, the front part is obviously covered in shadow, but not much you can do about it now.

Quoting Tomskii (Reply 64):
EDIT:

Better?

Looks passable.

Topic: RE: Pre-Screening (Tomskii)
Username: Tomskii
Posted 2012-04-14 08:21:24 and read 5543 times.

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/33281487/DSC_0011.jpg

Is this one too low in frame? I wasn't sure but when I look at it, it seems a bit low in frame.
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/33281487/DSC_0017.jpg

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/33281487/DSC_0027.jpg

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/33281487/DSC_0059.jpg

[Edited 2012-04-14 08:56:10]

Topic: RE: Pre-Screening (Tomskii)
Username: dlowwa
Posted 2012-04-14 10:24:35 and read 5530 times.

Last three are a little bright, especially 2 & 3. The TG is a little low, but the light is pretty bad, so probably not worth trying to fix.

Topic: RE: Pre-Screening (Tomskii)
Username: Tomskii
Posted 2012-04-14 10:57:11 and read 5526 times.

I see, will reduce the brightness on the last 2 and increase on the first LH. Light conditions were indeed variable so the TG will have to wait to join my a.net collection  

Thanks again for your valuable feedback.

Topic: RE: Pre-Screening (Tomskii)
Username: Tomskii
Posted 2012-04-14 11:18:49 and read 5525 times.

Hows this? Only made minor adjustments to the brightness of the IB and Transavia as you said a little too bright haha. But the LH has had a bigger increase of brightness.

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/33281487/DSC_0011(2).jpg

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/33281487/DSC_0027(2).jpg

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/33281487/DSC_0059(2).jpg

Topic: RE: Pre-Screening (Tomskii)
Username: dlowwa
Posted 2012-04-14 16:22:06 and read 5500 times.

Not sure why you brightened the LH; the other two look better for exposure.

Topic: RE: Pre-Screening (Tomskii)
Username: Tomskii
Posted 2012-04-15 00:17:24 and read 5494 times.

Oh I misunderstood then. So the LH is ok then (first version)? Will adjust exposure on the other 2

[Edited 2012-04-15 00:19:53]

Topic: RE: Pre-Screening (Tomskii)
Username: Tomskii
Posted 2012-04-15 11:46:04 and read 5482 times.

Better/Worse?

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/33281487/DSC_0027(3).jpg

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/33281487/DSC_0059(3).jpg

Topic: RE: Pre-Screening (Tomskii)
Username: dlowwa
Posted 2012-04-15 13:00:36 and read 5474 times.

Quoting Tomskii (Reply 72):
Better/Worse?

A bit better.

Topic: RE: Pre-Screening (Tomskii)
Username: Tomskii
Posted 2012-04-15 13:03:24 and read 5473 times.

Would you bring it down a bit more or should they be ok?

Topic: RE: Pre-Screening (Tomskii)
Username: dlowwa
Posted 2012-04-15 13:18:33 and read 5471 times.

Exposure? Just leave it where it is. The light's not too great (especially on the IB, which if anything looks flat) so just put them through and see how it goes - just be prepared for issues with the IB.

Topic: RE: Pre-Screening (Tomskii)
Username: Tomskii
Posted 2012-04-16 07:54:17 and read 5468 times.

What do you think about this one?

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/33281487/DSC_0033.jpg

Topic: RE: Pre-Screening (Tomskii)
Username: dlowwa
Posted 2012-04-16 12:30:19 and read 5441 times.

Quoting Tomskii (Reply 76):
What do you think about this one?

Touch flat, but otherwise ok.

Topic: RE: Pre-Screening (Tomskii)
Username: Tomskii
Posted 2012-04-16 12:38:43 and read 5437 times.

Cheers, will increase the contrast a bit and upload it. Thanks again!

EDIT: This should be better then:

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/33281487/DSC_0033(2).jpg

[Edited 2012-04-16 12:45:36]

Topic: RE: Pre-Screening (Tomskii)
Username: Tomskii
Posted 2012-05-08 11:07:45 and read 5342 times.

Hi Dana,

I have been spotting today. I will tell you that it was cloudy, but I still wanted to have some feedback on some pictures. I have editted a first one, a Asiana 744F. I've editted it the usual way but with the sharpening I did the regular one like I do normally and a second edition with the High Pass Technique. Please tell me what you think.

Regular
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/33281487/DSC_0057.jpg

High Pass
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/33281487/DSC_0057%28high%20pass%29.jpg

I thank you again for your time and the help you have given me in the passed (My latest pictures were all accepted btw).

Greetings,

Tom

Topic: RE: Pre-Screening (Tomskii)
Username: dlowwa
Posted 2012-05-08 15:53:10 and read 5322 times.

Second one is better for sharpening; both have a slight cyan/yellow cast to them.

Topic: RE: Pre-Screening (Tomskii)
Username: Tomskii
Posted 2012-05-09 04:13:17 and read 5315 times.

Any change? I have the feeling it's too red now, but I might be wrong. What would you suggest to adjust the casts?
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/33281487/DSC_0057%282%29.jpg

Topic: RE: Pre-Screening (Tomskii)
Username: Tomskii
Posted 2012-05-09 09:07:17 and read 5315 times.

This one needs a bit more of CW I think? And if you have other remarks, I will be pleased to hear them of course!  http://dl.dropbox.com/u/33281487/DSC_0036.jpg

Topic: RE: Pre-Screening (Tomskii)
Username: frankc
Posted 2012-05-09 10:48:38 and read 5303 times.

Hi Tom, the verticals lean to the left, so CW is indeed needed.
I think the aircraft is a bit high in the frame too, given the large tail.
Cheers
Frank

Topic: RE: Pre-Screening (Tomskii)
Username: dlowwa
Posted 2012-05-09 17:14:57 and read 5293 times.

It does need a touch of cw; it also has a yellow/green cast, and is a bit contrasty.

Topic: RE: Pre-Screening (Tomskii)
Username: Tomskii
Posted 2012-05-10 06:35:33 and read 5289 times.

I'll leave the Austrian as it is, as when I took the picture I zoomed in so far on the plane that it resulted in not having enough space to rotate the picture. Anyways thanks.

What do you think of the Asiana re-edit? And I repeat my question, how would you remove the cyan and yellow cast (if it's still there)

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/33281487/DSC_0057%282%29.jpg

Topic: RE: Pre-Screening (Tomskii)
Username: dlowwa
Posted 2012-05-10 09:00:44 and read 5285 times.

Still looks a little cyan, but not too bad. You can usually balance out cyan by adding more red.

Topic: RE: Pre-Screening (Tomskii)
Username: Tomskii
Posted 2012-05-10 12:46:20 and read 5276 times.

Quoting dlowwa (Reply 86):
Still looks a little cyan, but not too bad. You can usually balance out cyan by adding more red.

That's what I thought, wont I risk having too much red in the pic then though?

EDIT: Added a bit more red:

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/33281487/DSC_0057%283%29.jpg

[Edited 2012-05-10 12:51:42]

Topic: RE: Pre-Screening (Tomskii)
Username: dlowwa
Posted 2012-05-10 23:06:01 and read 5264 times.

I honestly don't see a big difference between the third and fourth versions, but if I had to go with one, it would be third.

Topic: RE: Pre-Screening (Tomskii)
Username: Tomskii
Posted 2012-05-14 12:09:47 and read 5242 times.

New material, tell me what you think! (more coming up as soon (tomorrow probably) as I have done the following edits)

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/33281487/DSC_0016.jpg

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/33281487/DSC_0040.jpg

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/33281487/DSC_0094.jpg

[Edited 2012-05-14 12:20:19]

[Edited 2012-05-14 12:29:38]



[Edited 2012-05-14 12:58:47]

Topic: RE: Pre-Screening (Tomskii)
Username: dlowwa
Posted 2012-05-15 00:29:23 and read 5219 times.

Hi,

First will be rejected for motive, the second two have a yellow/green cast and are partially backlit so will have a difficult time with the light.

Topic: RE: Pre-Screening (Tomskii)
Username: Tomskii
Posted 2012-05-15 05:28:44 and read 5215 times.

Quoting dlowwa (Reply 90):
Hi,

First will be rejected for motive,

Why the first one for motive? Because of the nosewheel that is blocked by the fence?


The other two indeed have a bit of backlit due to the sun that was already almost facing them  . I maybe should've chosen the opposite side of the runway as soon as the sun was backlitting the planes.  

So you guess, both the last pictures would not make it due to the light right? (after removing the yellow and green cast)

Topic: RE: Pre-Screening (Tomskii)
Username: dlowwa
Posted 2012-05-15 11:01:24 and read 5207 times.

Quoting Tomskii (Reply 91):
Why the first one for motive? Because of the nosewheel that is blocked by the fence?

Yes.

Quoting Tomskii (Reply 91):
So you guess, both the last pictures would not make it due to the light right? (after removing the yellow and green cast)

The second would have a bit better chance than the third.

Topic: RE: Pre-Screening (Tomskii)
Username: Tomskii
Posted 2012-05-16 03:51:22 and read 5190 times.

Thanks I'll work on the second one then to remove the yello and greenish cast

Thanks for your time again!

Topic: RE: Pre-Screening (Tomskii)
Username: Tomskii
Posted 2012-05-17 09:05:33 and read 5163 times.

Hows This:

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/33281487/DSC_0040(2).jpg

Topic: RE: Pre-Screening (Tomskii)
Username: dlowwa
Posted 2012-05-17 12:05:49 and read 5157 times.

Quoting Tomskii (Reply 94):
Hows This:

Color slightly better; light is still marginal; I've also just noticed there is some relatively strong vignetting in the corners.

Topic: RE: Pre-Screening (Tomskii)
Username: Tomskii
Posted 2012-05-19 10:12:03 and read 5132 times.

Would this one have any chance? (taken today)
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/33281487/DSC_0055.jpg

And then I have another picture which I am unsure about wether the motive is enough to let it pass. (I also noted that, due to the distance the plane is quite hazy, but maybe the motive is more important. Anyways thanks)

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/33281487/DSC_0050.jpg

Topic: RE: Pre-Screening (Tomskii)
Username: Tomskii
Posted 2012-05-19 12:12:43 and read 5129 times.

And would this be able to make the cut?

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/33281487/DSC_0085.jpg

PS: Don't forget about the two previous pics when answerring to this post  

Topic: RE: Pre-Screening (Tomskii)
Username: dlowwa
Posted 2012-05-19 23:57:59 and read 5109 times.

Quoting Tomskii (Reply 96):
Would this one have any chance?

A bit too bright and heat-hazed, so probably not.

Quoting Tomskii (Reply 96):
And then I have another picture which I am unsure about wether the motive is enough to let it pass.

No, not sure why the pole would be motive for such a crop.

Quoting Tomskii (Reply 97):
And would this be able to make the cut?

No, quality is just not there unfortunately.

Topic: RE: Pre-Screening (Tomskii)
Username: Tomskii
Posted 2012-05-20 01:30:17 and read 5106 times.

Quoting dlowwa (Reply 98):
No, not sure why the pole would be motive for such a crop.

Not the pole, but the people sitting on the right  

Topic: RE: Pre-Screening (Tomskii)
Username: Tomskii
Posted 2012-05-20 01:39:58 and read 5106 times.

How's this then, (I've included a 1600px version and the regular size I do thus 1200px, tell me if the 1600 would make the cut or not  )

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/33281487/DSC_0059%20%282%29.jpg

Large:

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/33281487/DSC_0059%28large%29.jpg

I have the feeling they are both still a bit soft and need some sharpening.

Tom

[Edited 2012-05-20 01:40:58]

Topic: RE: Pre-Screening (Tomskii)
Username: Tomskii
Posted 2012-05-20 07:43:11 and read 5101 times.

(This is the re-sharpened version of the 1600px wide one)

Large 2:

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/33281487/DSC_0059%28large2%29.jpg

Topic: RE: Pre-Screening (Tomskii)
Username: dlowwa
Posted 2012-05-20 13:22:10 and read 5096 times.

Quoting Tomskii (Reply 99):
Not the pole, but the people sitting on the right

Hardly enough to justify the off-center & distance.

Quoting Tomskii (Reply 100):
tell me if the 1600 would make the cut or not

It would not, and neither would the 1200.

Topic: RE: Pre-Screening (Tomskii)
Username: Tomskii
Posted 2012-05-20 13:36:46 and read 5094 times.

Quoting dlowwa (Reply 102):
It would not, and neither would the 1200.

Due to the light/Contrast? (although the sun was shining (in periods :p))

Topic: RE: Pre-Screening (Tomskii)
Username: dlowwa
Posted 2012-05-20 13:41:12 and read 5094 times.

The light, but more importantly the fact that it is very soft.

Topic: RE: Pre-Screening (Tomskii)
Username: Tomskii
Posted 2012-05-21 07:44:08 and read 5078 times.

Also the last version? But I suppose I do not have to put any effort in the picture because of the lighting (although the sun was actually there).

Topic: RE: Pre-Screening (Tomskii)
Username: dlowwa
Posted 2012-05-21 14:45:53 and read 5070 times.

Quoting Tomskii (Reply 105):
Also the last version?

Yes.

Topic: RE: Pre-Screening (Tomskii)
Username: Tomskii
Posted 2012-05-23 09:07:42 and read 5060 times.

The sun is shining it's 28,5 °C and I went spotting. Results are below. Please tell me what you think, and of course what needs improvement/is ok.

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/33281487/DSC_0018.jpg

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/33281487/DSC_0027%20%282%29.jpg

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/33281487/DSC_0043.jpg

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/33281487/DSC_0059%20%283%29.jpg

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/33281487/DSC_0063.jpg

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/33281487/DSC_0079.jpg

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/33281487/DSC_0087.jpg

[Edited 2012-05-23 09:25:10]

Topic: RE: Pre-Screening (Tomskii)
Username: dlowwa
Posted 2012-05-23 11:10:34 and read 5051 times.

All have a cyan cast & heat haze. You might be able to hide the haze at 1024, but other than that, there's not much you can do.

Topic: RE: Pre-Screening (Tomskii)
Username: Tomskii
Posted 2012-05-23 12:25:09 and read 5044 times.

Hi Dana,

Thanks for your reply, I do not doubt your judgement, but for instance on the jetairfly 767 for instance I do not immediately spot any heat haze  

Topic: RE: Pre-Screening (Tomskii)
Username: dlowwa
Posted 2012-05-23 14:27:05 and read 5041 times.

Quoting Tomskii (Reply 109):

No problem, I'm just offering advice. If you decide to go ahead with it, make sure you fix the color & contrast, and also remove the dust spots.

Topic: RE: Pre-Screening (Tomskii)
Username: Tomskii
Posted 2012-05-27 08:58:20 and read 5033 times.

Any comments on this? http://dl.dropbox.com/u/33281487/DSC_0032.jpg Mind that the green reflection is due to the grass below, which you should be able to see in the reflection of the plane.  

Topic: RE: Pre-Screening (Tomskii)
Username: dlowwa
Posted 2012-05-27 13:00:18 and read 5016 times.

Whole image (not the reflection on the belly) has a cyan tint.

Topic: RE: Pre-Screening (Tomskii)
Username: Tomskii
Posted 2012-05-28 01:35:56 and read 5003 times.

Thanks I'll counter that. Looks like I'll need to check my camera/photoshop settings as you have been telling me on a lot of pics that there is a cyan tint :s.

Topic: RE: Pre-Screening (Tomskii)
Username: Tomskii
Posted 2012-05-28 03:05:02 and read 5001 times.

Added +15 red

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/33281487/DSC_0032(2).jpg

Topic: RE: Pre-Screening (Tomskii)
Username: dlowwa
Posted 2012-05-28 08:40:25 and read 4990 times.

Quoting Tomskii (Reply 114):
Added +15 red

Color still looks off.

Topic: RE: Pre-Screening (Tomskii)
Username: Tomskii
Posted 2012-06-16 02:03:54 and read 4871 times.

Ok it has been a while again but I have 2 shots for you, hope these are not cyan tinted.

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/33281487/DSC_0067.jpg
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/33281487/DSC_0062.jpg
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/33281487/DSC_0076.jpg
Suppose the second one is a bit too soft?

[Edited 2012-06-16 02:19:00]

Topic: RE: Pre-Screening (Tomskii)
Username: dlowwa
Posted 2012-06-16 11:42:39 and read 4831 times.

Quoting Tomskii (Reply 114):
Ok it has been a while again but I have 2 shots for you

3 shots, no? All three have issues with color and contrast.

Topic: RE: Pre-Screening (Tomskii)
Username: Tomskii
Posted 2012-06-16 12:24:39 and read 4829 times.

Quoting dlowwa (Reply 117):
3 shots, no? All three have issues with color and contrast.

Yes, 3 shots lol :p I suppose they have a cyan tint and the contrast is a bit too high(?)

Topic: RE: Pre-Screening (Tomskii)
Username: dlowwa
Posted 2012-06-17 00:45:33 and read 4813 times.

Quoting Tomskii (Reply 116):
I suppose they have a cyan tint and the contrast is a bit too high(?)

Exactly. A little cyan, but might also be a little oversaturated.

Topic: RE: Pre-Screening (Tomskii)
Username: Tomskii
Posted 2012-06-17 01:31:42 and read 4814 times.

Quoting dlowwa (Reply 119):

Exactly. A little cyan, but might also be a little oversaturated.

mmm yes I did add like +5 of color saturation, might be that. I'll do a -5 for the saturation, and if the cyan is still there afterwards I'll counter that as well.

Topic: RE: Pre-Screening (Tomskii)
Username: Tomskii
Posted 2012-06-17 01:40:31 and read 4810 times.

This should be better, all three have had a -10 in saturation, just to make sure. Tell me if the cyan tint is still there and if the contrast is still too high now  http://dl.dropbox.com/u/33281487/DSC_0067%282%29.jpg

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/33281487/DSC_0062%282%29.jpg

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/33281487/DSC_0076%282%29.jpg

Thanks again!

Tom

Topic: RE: Pre-Screening (Tomskii)
Username: dlowwa
Posted 2012-06-17 02:00:38 and read 4803 times.

Quoting Tomskii (Reply 121):
Tell me if the cyan tint is still there and if the contrast is still too high now

Don't see much difference, contrast & color still off.

Topic: RE: Pre-Screening (Tomskii)
Username: Tomskii
Posted 2012-06-17 02:19:45 and read 4801 times.

Quoting dlowwa (Reply 122):
Don't see much difference, contrast & color still off.

Could you, maybe if you have the time just download one of these pics and edit the colour and contrast like you would do it in Photoshop? Show the final picture and then eventually tell what you've done, cause I am a bit 'walking in the dark' if you know what I mean at this very moment :s

EDIT: Any better this? https://dl.dropbox.com/u/33281487/DSC_0076%283%29.jpg

[Edited 2012-06-17 03:20:29]

Topic: RE: Pre-Screening (Tomskii)
Username: dlowwa
Posted 2012-06-17 03:24:45 and read 4785 times.

If you want to send me one the original RAW files, I can do an edit from that. No point in doing it from one of the versions posted above.

Topic: RE: Pre-Screening (Tomskii)
Username: Tomskii
Posted 2012-06-17 06:19:00 and read 4780 times.

Sent you an email via the contact funtion  

Topic: RE: Pre-Screening (Tomskii)
Username: dlowwa
Posted 2012-06-17 10:31:53 and read 4774 times.

Pretty easy to come up with better colors from the RAW file, so whatever you're doing wrong, you're doing it when processing the image. Compare:

Your original edit -

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/33281487/DSC_0067%282%29.jpg

My edit -

http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/303/dsc00671200.jpg

Topic: RE: Pre-Screening (Tomskii)
Username: Tomskii
Posted 2012-06-17 10:38:03 and read 4772 times.

I think it might be related to my screen, as your edit appears to have a bit of red to it on my screen.  

Any tips on calibrating my screen?   I have a Samsung 2333HD

Topic: RE: Pre-Screening (Tomskii)
Username: Tomskii
Posted 2012-06-19 13:30:28 and read 4752 times.

How's this btw

Topic: RE: Pre-Screening (Tomskii)
Username: dlowwa
Posted 2012-06-19 13:47:04 and read 4762 times.

Quoting Tomskii (Reply 128):
How's this btw

It would be rejected for color and contrast; same problems as above.

Topic: RE: Pre-Screening (Tomskii)
Username: Tomskii
Posted 2012-06-26 08:48:40 and read 4705 times.

How about this?
Not sure about the contrast
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/33281487/DSC_0059.jpg

And I suppose this one suffers too much of heat haze but I wanted to see what you think.

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/33281487/DSC_0093.jpg

Topic: RE: Pre-Screening (Tomskii)
Username: dlowwa
Posted 2012-06-26 23:18:46 and read 4685 times.

Quoting Tomskii (Reply 128):
Not sure about the contrast

Contrast ok, level not.

Quoting Tomskii (Reply 128):
I suppose this one suffers too much of heat haze

Yes. Would be rejected for soft & contrast.

Topic: RE: Pre-Screening (Tomskii)
Username: Tomskii
Posted 2012-06-27 04:22:04 and read 4676 times.

How would you level it as the angle at which it was taken of course causesa little optical illusion  

Topic: RE: Pre-Screening (Tomskii)
Username: dlowwa
Posted 2012-06-27 06:23:27 and read 4669 times.

Quoting Tomskii (Reply 130):
How would you level it as the angle at which it was taken of course causesa little optical illusion

No optical illusion, it's severely slanted to the right.

Topic: RE: Pre-Screening (Tomskii)
Username: Tomskii
Posted 2012-06-27 09:18:14 and read 4664 times.

How's this? 3° CCW. Does it need more? I've also included a 1600px version, just wondering if it would need more sharpening at that size? (or would it even make the cut?)

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/33281487/DSC_0059(2).jpg

Large Version:

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/33281487/DSC_0059(large).jpg

Topic: RE: Pre-Screening (Tomskii)
Username: dlowwa
Posted 2012-06-27 17:38:40 and read 4627 times.

Quoting Tomskii (Reply 134):
How's this? 3° CCW.

Better, but still might have issues with level. Not sure why you are so keen on 1600 pix, your chances of acceptance drop exponentially when you try images at that size.

Topic: RE: Pre-Screening (Tomskii)
Username: Tomskii
Posted 2012-06-28 06:22:30 and read 4617 times.

4 degrees CCW now, should be good I suppose now as the numbers on the ground appear to be completely level now.

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/33281487/DSC_0059(3).jpg

Topic: RE: Pre-Screening (Tomskii)
Username: dlowwa
Posted 2012-06-28 08:31:45 and read 4610 times.

Quoting Tomskii (Reply 134):

Level should be fine.

Topic: RE: Pre-Screening (Tomskii)
Username: Tomskii
Posted 2012-06-28 08:58:36 and read 4609 times.

Quoting dlowwa (Reply 135):

Level should be fine.

No other things that might be an issue?

Here are another few new pics.

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/33281487/DSC_0011.jpg

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/33281487/DSC_0022.jpg

And I suppose this one would be subject to a 'motive' rejection due to the airstairs?

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/33281487/DSC_0096.jpg

And this one mainly for lighting (and I suppose due to the distance that heat haze might be an issue as well)

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/33281487/DSC_0090.jpg

Topic: RE: Pre-Screening (Tomskii)
Username: dlowwa
Posted 2012-06-28 17:32:22 and read 4595 times.

Quoting Tomskii (Reply 136):
No other things that might be an issue?

Not the best light, but should be passable.

Quoting Tomskii (Reply 136):
Here are another few new pics.

Generally look ok.

Quoting Tomskii (Reply 136):
And I suppose this one would be subject to a 'motive' rejection due to the airstairs?

Yes.

Quoting Tomskii (Reply 136):
And this one mainly for lighting

Very poor, will be a dark/contrast rejection.

Topic: RE: Pre-Screening (Tomskii)
Username: Tomskii
Posted 2012-07-07 08:06:17 and read 4493 times.

And another one for you today, I have the impression I might have cropped it a bit too low in frame.

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/33281487/DSC_0028.jpg

In meanwhile, the Portugalia has been accepted and the two other ones will be screened tomorrow probably.

[Edited 2012-07-07 08:07:07]

Topic: RE: Pre-Screening (Tomskii)
Username: dlowwa
Posted 2012-07-08 09:17:34 and read 4448 times.

Quoting Tomskii (Reply 138):
And another one for you today

A little soft, but otherwise ok.

Topic: RE: Pre-Screening (Tomskii)
Username: Tomskii
Posted 2012-07-08 09:31:39 and read 4453 times.

Better?
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/33281487/DSC_0028%282%29.jpg

[Edited 2012-07-08 09:33:58]

Topic: RE: Pre-Screening (Tomskii)
Username: dlowwa
Posted 2012-07-09 01:26:24 and read 4410 times.

Quoting Tomskii (Reply 142):
Better?

Yes.

Topic: RE: Pre-Screening (Tomskii)
Username: Tomskii
Posted 2012-07-28 13:05:36 and read 4076 times.

I'm not giving it a lot of chances but I thought it might be considered as a airport overview submission? Anyways odds are it is either not showing enough of the airport, or if you think the focus is on the plane holding short I suppose it wouldn't stand a chance either?  

Tom

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/33281487/OO-RMC%282%29.jpg

Topic: RE: Pre-Screening (Tomskii)
Username: dlowwa
Posted 2012-07-28 16:21:03 and read 4062 times.

Quoting Tomskii (Reply 142):
I'm not giving it a lot of chances but I thought it might be considered as a airport overview submission?

Not enough of the airport visible for that.

Topic: RE: Pre-Screening (Tomskii)
Username: Tomskii
Posted 2012-08-02 04:57:47 and read 3992 times.

3 for you again.

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/33281487/DSC_0100.jpg
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/33281487/DSC_0196.jpg
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/33281487/DSC_0202.jpg

I feel like I have oversharpened them a bit?

Topic: RE: Pre-Screening (Tomskii)
Username: Tomskii
Posted 2012-08-07 02:55:53 and read 3920 times.

Anyone willing to answer?

Topic: RE: Pre-Screening (Tomskii)
Username: Tomskii
Posted 2012-08-12 10:23:16 and read 3831 times.

Any comments on this one please?  http://dl.dropbox.com/u/33281487/DSC_0032.jpg

Topic: RE: Pre-Screening (Tomskii)
Username: dlowwa
Posted 2012-08-12 17:35:00 and read 3813 times.

Quoting Tomskii (Reply 146):
Any comments on this one please?

A little dark, and personally I think the angle is terrible.

Topic: RE: Pre-Screening (Tomskii)
Username: Tomskii
Posted 2012-08-13 05:15:27 and read 3805 times.

Added just a tad of exposere as I thought it would be overexposed otherwise. Can't change much about the angle since well yeah the pilot flew right over me. Thanks again for your help. Could you also check the 3 pics in my previous post and see if any have a chance? (personally I do not think so)

Topic: RE: Pre-Screening (Tomskii)
Username: dlowwa
Posted 2012-08-14 17:36:44 and read 3789 times.

Quoting Tomskii (Reply 148):
Could you also check the 3 pics in my previous post and see if any have a chance?

They're a little on the dark and/or soft side, but should be fixable.

Topic: RE: Pre-Screening (Tomskii)
Username: Tomskii
Posted 2012-08-16 11:44:23 and read 3778 times.

Quoting dlowwa (Reply 149):
They're a little on the dark and/or soft side, but should be fixable.

Thanks, I'll work on them after the weekend since I'm going on a weekend with some friends. Thanks once again for the help, and about my remark in another topic the other day: I should've rephrased myself better as it seemed I was insinuating that screeners have little or no knowledge.

Topic: RE: Pre-Screening (Tomskii)
Username: Tomskii
Posted 2012-09-09 09:39:03 and read 3428 times.

What do you think about this: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/33281487/DSC_0002.jpg

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/33281487/DSC_0223.jpg

[Edited 2012-09-09 09:40:39]

EDIT: Suppose I shouldn't even ask due to the lighting but still going to do it:

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/33281487/DSC_0161.jpg


[Edited 2012-09-09 09:42:13]

Topic: RE: Pre-Screening (Tomskii)
Username: dlowwa
Posted 2012-09-09 11:35:35 and read 3423 times.

Quoting Tomskii (Reply 153):
What do you think about this:

Generally ok.

Quoting Tomskii (Reply 153):
Suppose I shouldn't even ask due to the lighting but still going to do it:

A bit noisy & flat.

Topic: RE: Pre-Screening (Tomskii)
Username: Tomskii
Posted 2012-09-10 00:18:15 and read 3393 times.

Quoting dlowwa (Reply 152):
A bit noisy & flat.

And I suppose due to the lighting that it wouldn't really help if I increase contrast? Or would it?

Topic: RE: Pre-Screening (Tomskii)
Username: dlowwa
Posted 2012-09-10 08:27:11 and read 3390 times.

Quoting Tomskii (Reply 153):
And I suppose due to the lighting that it wouldn't really help if I increase contrast?

You could try.

Topic: RE: Pre-Screening (Tomskii)
Username: Tomskii
Posted 2012-09-17 07:19:48 and read 3313 times.

Hi there Dana,

Would this airport overview stand any chance? If yes how do I upload it (because I do not have to select any airplane)?

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/33281487/DSC_0071.jpg

Topic: RE: Pre-Screening (Tomskii)
Username: dlowwa
Posted 2012-09-17 12:14:06 and read 3302 times.

For motive, the distance and fence kind of kill it for me. Also seems a bit dark and soft.

Topic: RE: Pre-Screening (Tomskii)
Username: Tomskii
Posted 2012-09-19 03:47:22 and read 3273 times.

Is it just me or did I oversharpen this picture?

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/33281487/DSC_0018.jpg

Topic: RE: Pre-Screening (Tomskii)
Username: dlowwa
Posted 2012-09-19 09:10:12 and read 3259 times.

Quoting Tomskii (Reply 157):
Is it just me or did I oversharpen this picture?

Sharpening looks passable, but it is quite dark.

Topic: RE: Pre-Screening (Tomskii)
Username: Tomskii
Posted 2012-09-19 09:40:41 and read 3260 times.

It seems like SN just doesn't like the camera's lol. If you look up SSQ's pics or any other SN plane the 'brussels airlines' in the front always looks quite bad.

Hows this?

EDIT: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/33281487/DSC_0018%282%29.jpg

[Edited 2012-09-19 09:48:59]

Topic: RE: Pre-Screening (Tomskii)
Username: dlowwa
Posted 2012-09-19 15:35:49 and read 3241 times.

Quoting Tomskii (Reply 161):
Hows this?

Would likely be rejected for dark/harsh contrast.

Topic: RE: Pre-Screening (Tomskii)
Username: Tomskii
Posted 2012-09-20 08:42:14 and read 3227 times.

I can still bring the contrast down, yet would the dark remain a problem you think?

Topic: RE: Pre-Screening (Tomskii)
Username: dlowwa
Posted 2012-09-21 17:56:46 and read 3204 times.

If it is still underexposed, yes.

Topic: RE: Pre-Screening (Tomskii)
Username: Tomskii
Posted 2012-09-26 11:29:30 and read 3130 times.

Hey Dana,

Just found this one left on my HDD, any good?
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/33281487/DSC_0225.jpg

Topic: RE: Pre-Screening (Tomskii)
Username: dlowwa
Posted 2012-09-26 19:02:56 and read 3114 times.

Quoting Tomskii (Reply 163):
Just found this one left on my HDD, any good?

Noisy, but otherwise should be ok.

Topic: RE: Pre-Screening (Tomskii)
Username: Tomskii
Posted 2012-10-31 10:14:54 and read 2532 times.

After a long while I finally found the time again for some spotting, please tell me what you think Dana:

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/33281487/DSC_0009.jpg

Not sure if this one would be allowed
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/33281487/DSC_0023.jpg

Nor this one
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/33281487/DSC_0043.jpg

Greetings,

Tom

Topic: RE: Pre-Screening (Tomskii)
Username: dlowwa
Posted 2012-10-31 11:10:58 and read 2525 times.

First is dark/contrasty, and is pretty common, so you'll need to have it near perfect. It's also got some pretty obvious dust spots. Second is an awkward crop, but might be acceptable. Third would be no for the crop on the left, and would be double with the second anyway.

Topic: RE: Pre-Screening (Tomskii)
Username: Tomskii
Posted 2012-10-31 11:15:37 and read 2524 times.

Was pretty sure about that last one that it wouldn't get past, I'll leave the first one and add it to my personal collection and I'll give the second one a go.

Awkward crop is due to the building where the 9W was sitting, Would've liked a spot where it was in the same position yet without that building on the left :P

Topic: RE: Pre-Screening (Tomskii)
Username: Tomskii
Posted 2012-10-31 14:40:09 and read 2519 times.

Too harsh on contrast this one I suppose?

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/33281487/DSC_0026.jpg

Topic: RE: Pre-Screening (Tomskii)
Username: dlowwa
Posted 2012-10-31 14:45:30 and read 2514 times.

Quoting Tomskii (Reply 168):
Too harsh on contrast this one I suppose?

Too harsh? Too low if anything. Also needs cw rotation.

Topic: RE: Pre-Screening (Tomskii)
Username: Tomskii
Posted 2012-11-01 04:13:08 and read 2496 times.

Quoting dlowwa (Reply 169):
Too harsh? Too low if anything. Also needs cw rotation.

Lol I thought it would be too harsh (maybe it's just my screen) will edit it again and repost it.

EDIT: How's this?

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/33281487/DSC_0026%282%29.jpg

[Edited 2012-11-01 04:27:47]

[Edited 2012-11-01 05:08:42]

Topic: RE: Pre-Screening (Tomskii)
Username: dlowwa
Posted 2012-11-01 08:27:52 and read 2487 times.

Quoting Tomskii (Reply 170):
How's this?

Looks better.

Topic: RE: Pre-Screening (Tomskii)
Username: Tomskii
Posted 2012-11-02 04:25:09 and read 2473 times.

Quoting dlowwa (Reply 171):
Looks better.

Still needs to a bit or is it ok?

Topic: RE: Pre-Screening (Tomskii)
Username: dlowwa
Posted 2012-11-02 08:31:30 and read 2466 times.

Quoting Tomskii (Reply 174):
Still needs to a bit or is it ok?

More contrast? No, contrast should be fine.

Topic: RE: Pre-Screening (Tomskii)
Username: Tomskii
Posted 2012-11-02 13:22:25 and read 2455 times.

Quoting dlowwa (Reply 173):

More contrast? No, contrast should be fine.

Allright thanks,

Think my English (or writing skills) have gone out the window with that last post lol

Topic: RE: Pre-Screening (Tomskii)
Username: Tomskii
Posted 2012-11-02 17:21:41 and read 2448 times.

Hi there again Dana,

Would this stand any chance?

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/33281487/DSC_0029.jpg

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/33281487/DSC_0045.jpg

Doubt this one but just trying
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/33281487/DSC_0064.jpg

Greetings,

Tom

[Edited 2012-11-02 17:53:52]

[Edited 2012-11-02 17:54:25]

Topic: RE: Pre-Screening (Tomskii)
Username: dlowwa
Posted 2012-11-02 23:04:04 and read 2439 times.

First would be rejected for grainy, oversharpened, quality, and maybe centering for the crop. Second is a bit dark. Third would be rejected for blurry and dark.

Topic: RE: Pre-Screening (Tomskii)
Username: Tomskii
Posted 2012-11-03 04:07:13 and read 2444 times.

Quoting dlowwa (Reply 176):
First would be rejected for grainy, oversharpened, quality, and maybe centering for the crop. Second is a bit dark. Third would be rejected for blurry and dark.

Would've expected that for 1 and 3, I'll just make #2 a bit lighter and it should be good  

Topic: RE: Pre-Screening (Tomskii)
Username: Tomskii
Posted 2012-11-03 12:47:48 and read 2423 times.

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/33281487/DSC_0045%282%29.jpg

Topic: RE: Pre-Screening (Tomskii)
Username: Tomskii
Posted 2012-11-26 10:34:45 and read 2324 times.

Hi Dana another one for you to check:

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/33281487/DSC_2741.jpg

and this one:

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/33281487/DSC_2743.jpg

[Edited 2012-11-26 10:43:41]

Topic: RE: Pre-Screening (Tomskii)
Username: dlowwa
Posted 2012-11-26 18:41:42 and read 2302 times.

Quoting Tomskii (Reply 181):
Hi Dana another one for you to check:

Slightly soft and noisy, but otherwise ok.

Topic: RE: Pre-Screening (Tomskii)
Username: Tomskii
Posted 2012-11-27 13:14:20 and read 2294 times.

How's this, I added some USM to it from the original RAW file (I always start again from the RAW)

And I've done some Noise removal as well

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/33281487/DSC_2741%282%29.jpg

[Edited 2012-11-27 13:15:43]

Topic: RE: Pre-Screening (Tomskii)
Username: dlowwa
Posted 2012-11-27 13:40:15 and read 2288 times.

Quoting Tomskii (Reply 181):
How's this,

Looks slightly oversharpened now.

Topic: RE: Pre-Screening (Tomskii)
Username: Tomskii
Posted 2012-11-27 13:46:53 and read 2288 times.

I've set a lower amount of USM yet I do not see much difference once resized (Or is it just me missing out small details)

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/33281487/DSC_2741%283%29.jpg

Topic: RE: Pre-Screening (Tomskii)
Username: dlowwa
Posted 2012-11-28 00:45:48 and read 2274 times.

Quoting Tomskii (Reply 185):
I've set a lower amount of USM

Just go with that one and see what happens.

Topic: RE: Pre-Screening (Tomskii)
Username: Tomskii
Posted 2012-11-28 01:53:51 and read 2275 times.

Allrighty thanks, if it gets rejected for OS I'll have to reduce the amount to the point where I actually see a difference lol. Once again thank you Dana.

Topic: RE: Pre-Screening (Tomskii)
Username: Tomskii
Posted 2013-01-22 06:49:54 and read 1807 times.

Hi Dana,

after a few busy months Im back at it. How is this picture? (I know it suffers a bit from the humidity)

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/33281487/DSC_0026%282%29.jpg

And this one:

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/33281487/DSC_0102.jpg

[Edited 2013-01-22 07:19:05]

Topic: RE: Pre-Screening (Tomskii)
Username: dlowwa
Posted 2013-01-22 12:27:56 and read 1790 times.

Quoting Tomskii (Reply 188):
How is this picture?

Very poor contrast, and the quality overall is not great. Doubt you can fix them.

Topic: RE: Pre-Screening (Tomskii)
Username: Tomskii
Posted 2013-01-22 12:44:05 and read 1788 times.

Thought so, weather was ok sun was shining but there was a lot of low level humidity as you can see.

Going back tomorrow, hope the moisture/humidity will be gone then.

Topic: RE: Pre-Screening (Tomskii)
Username: Tomskii
Posted 2013-02-02 08:38:15 and read 1695 times.

Hi there Dana,

3 pics I would like an opinion on:

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/33281487/DSC_0010.jpg

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/33281487/DSC_0020.jpg

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/33281487/DSC_0032.jpg

Topic: RE: Pre-Screening (Tomskii)
Username: Tomskii
Posted 2013-02-02 10:37:55 and read 1688 times.

Aaaaand... another one:

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/33281487/DSC_0038.jpg

Topic: RE: Pre-Screening (Tomskii)
Username: dlowwa
Posted 2013-02-02 11:37:05 and read 1685 times.

Quoting Tomskii (Reply 189):
3 pics I would like an opinion on:

Noisy, oversharpened, harshly contrasted, and generally lacking the quality for the size. Fence also rather prominent in a couple.

Topic: RE: Pre-Screening (Tomskii)
Username: Tomskii
Posted 2013-02-03 03:58:38 and read 1679 times.

Woops I see I resized them to 1300 instead of 1200 my bad. In the first series I did not do any NR as I shot the pics at ISO 100 since the conditions were good but after having zoomed in on the RAW file I saw there was indeed still a bit of noise on the lower part of the plane.

I've set less contrast (I suppose the good weather doesn't require me to add the amount I usually set) I've also redone sharpening to set it to less. About the fence: Well I can't change much about it but I cropped them slightly different so the amount of fence in the picture is less.

Tell me what you think  http://dl.dropbox.com/u/33281487/DSC_0010%282%29.jpg

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/33281487/DSC_0020%282%29.jpg

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/33281487/DSC_0038%282%29.jpg

Topic: RE: Pre-Screening (Tomskii)
Username: dlowwa
Posted 2013-02-03 08:52:05 and read 1666 times.

Quoting Tomskii (Reply 192):
Tell me what you think

Betterm though the 67 looks a bit soft, and the 320 maybe blurry now.

Topic: RE: Pre-Screening (Tomskii)
Username: Tomskii
Posted 2013-02-04 07:54:54 and read 1650 times.

Added some USM:

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/33281487/DSC_0020%283%29.jpg

And here is another one I would like an opinion on:

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/33281487/DSC_0004.jpg

Topic: RE: Pre-Screening (Tomskii)
Username: Tomskii
Posted 2013-02-05 07:03:16 and read 1621 times.

Would this have a chance Dana?

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/33281487/DSC_0066.jpg

Also please check the 67 which I have re-sharpened, and the KLM above.

Thanks once again,

Tom

Topic: RE: Pre-Screening (Tomskii)
Username: Cargolex
Posted 2013-02-05 08:55:13 and read 1615 times.

I can't speak for Dana and I'm not a screener, but to my eyes the EY A330 looks soft.

The 767 looks pretty good - maybe just a touch oversharp in some spots, but not too much. If it were me, I'd upload that and take my chances.

The F70 looks somewhat oversharp in spots and a touch soft in others, and maybe has a bit of grain in the shadows. Not a huge amount.

Topic: RE: Pre-Screening (Tomskii)
Username: Tomskii
Posted 2013-02-05 10:34:01 and read 1610 times.

Quoting Cargolex (Reply 196):
but to my eyes the EY A330 looks soft.

Hi here Cargolex, thanks for your feedback.

I've added a bit of sharpness to the EY, very subtle though 100% of unsharp mask, you should see a slight change. I was afraid of OS'ing it otherwise? (you should see the difference notably on the tail)

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/33281487/DSC_0066%282%29.jpg

Could you also take a look at this nose close-up?

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/33281487/DSC_0102.jpg

[Edited 2013-02-05 10:37:55]

[Edited 2013-02-05 10:40:16]

Topic: RE: Pre-Screening (Tomskii)
Username: Cargolex
Posted 2013-02-05 16:22:26 and read 1595 times.

Quoting Tomskii (Reply 197):
I've added a bit of sharpness to the EY, very subtle though 100% of unsharp mask, you should see a slight change. I was afraid of OS'ing it otherwise? (you should see the difference notably on the tail)

I definitely see the change, but you should try putting some parts in a separate layer and sharpening them separately - the titles and fuselage sides need more than the cockpit windows or the stripes on the forward fuselage, for example. Smart sharpen won't discriminate these areas over others that may not need more sharpening. Some people use Photoshop elements, which doesn't allow for many layers. I'm a Photoshop CS4 user so I don't know much about elements. The tail and cockpit windows are, in my opinion, getting closer to oversharp, but the middle of the fuselage is still soft.

On the SN, the exposure looks a little hot. You could probably stand to take that down just a bit. If you shoot in raw this should be pretty easy, I don't ever work in JPG but you might be able to fix this there too. The high contrast areas on this shot seem sharp, the low contrast areas seem less so. The static port near the Q seems a little soft, almost blurry, not sure. The Star logo and the text on the white area also indicate a little softness there, but the high contrast logo and titles are fine as is, IMO. I shot my very first Brussels Airlines A330 recently and oversharpened it, primarily because of those high contrast titles.

Topic: RE: Pre-Screening (Tomskii)
Username: Tomskii
Posted 2013-02-05 17:02:12 and read 1590 times.

Hi Cargolex,

Thanks for the valuable help. I use PS CS6 so layers shouldn't be of any problem. In my original of the SN the nose area is indeed a bit softer than the rest of the fuselage. I'll try to work it out in meanwhile. However I am not familiar with smart sharpen as I use USM. Any good tutorial you know of?

EDIT: Oh and yes I shoot in RAW so I'll bring the exposure a bit down  

[Edited 2013-02-05 17:03:07]

EDIT2: Oh darn I just saw I cropped a bit of the top off. The white antenna was sticking out and I did not see that in the original. (bloody eurowhite schemes :P)


[Edited 2013-02-05 17:04:50]

Topic: RE: Pre-Screening (Tomskii)
Username: Tomskii
Posted 2013-07-09 03:38:33 and read 839 times.

It's been 5 months in meanwhile. Would like your opinion on this one. Probably a bit dark, but would like to know if there's anything else.

http://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/33281487/DSC_0299.jpg

[Edited 2013-07-09 03:40:28]

Topic: RE: Pre-Screening (Tomskii)
Username: Tomskii
Posted 2013-07-10 02:36:21 and read 812 times.

Anyone?

Got another one as well:

http://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/33281487/DSC_0499.jpg


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